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Do you think the owner of the 3.6 million Ethereum will invest some money on farms to save his 3.6 million?
I heard he was going to sign some smart contract with some miners. But I am afraid the miners might think he will defraud them. I will never believe a hacker or a thief who stole $60 million from other people. That is a punishable crime. Where is the FBI? Has there been any hack attack??? or stupid sheeps just signed bad deal and lost all!? If you sign a bad deal in a court which you should have read, would you call the other party a thief for your stupidity The court of law will not agree with what you said. I read some where that the contract should be fair. I am more interested in get the hacker into jail. The person or group stole $60 million, that is a lot of money. |
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klbax381
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July 09, 2016, 07:51:27 PM |
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I am more interested in get the hacker into jail. The person or group stole $60 million, that is a lot of money. Hacker havent stole money $60mil. He stole ether - from the laws point of view it's a digital shit. |
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Hueristic
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July 09, 2016, 08:00:20 PM |
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The fund holder stole nothing, he entered into a valid contract and profited. It is not fair but life is not fair. Same conversation too many threads.
The Eth TOKEN is dead on HF. Learn from history do not repeat it.
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“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”
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Kewatia
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July 11, 2016, 03:24:59 PM |
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I am more interested in get the hacker into jail. The person or group stole $60 million, that is a lot of money. Hacker havent stole money $60mil. He stole ether - from the laws point of view it's a digital shit. Any way, the hacker will not get any the $60 million used to be in his possession. I wonder if he will sue the miners. |
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July 11, 2016, 04:16:43 PM |
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The fund holder stole nothing, he entered into a valid contract and profited. It is not fair but life is not fair. Same conversation too many threads.
The Eth TOKEN is dead on HF. Learn from history do not repeat it.
Yes he did. If he's so sure he didn't steal anything then where is he? Why not reveal himself? Oh yes braise he knows he exploited the code to steal. And HFs happen all the time. So quit fudding. |
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Hueristic
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July 11, 2016, 04:53:29 PM |
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The fund holder stole nothing, he entered into a valid contract and profited. It is not fair but life is not fair. Same conversation too many threads.
The Eth TOKEN is dead on HF. Learn from history do not repeat it.
Yes he did. If he's so sure he didn't steal anything then where is he? Why not reveal himself? Oh yes braise he knows he exploited the code to steal. And HFs happen all the time. So quit fudding. LOL, "no he didn't", Great argument! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkg58z6Inkc |
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mandica
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July 13, 2016, 07:52:23 AM |
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The fund holder stole nothing, he entered into a valid contract and profited. It is not fair but life is not fair. Same conversation too many threads.
The Eth TOKEN is dead on HF. Learn from history do not repeat it.
Yes he did. If he's so sure he didn't steal anything then where is he? Why not reveal himself? Oh yes braise he knows he exploited the code to steal. And HFs happen all the time. So quit fudding. I think so. There is nothing wrong with hard fork. I think the hard fork happened several time in the Ethereum history. |
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July 13, 2016, 12:06:37 PM |
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The fund holder stole nothing, he entered into a valid contract and profited. It is not fair but life is not fair. Same conversation too many threads.
The Eth TOKEN is dead on HF. Learn from history do not repeat it.
Yes he did. If he's so sure he didn't steal anything then where is he? Why not reveal himself? Oh yes braise he knows he exploited the code to steal. And HFs happen all the time. So quit fudding. I think so. There is nothing wrong with hard fork. I think the hard fork happened several time in the Ethereum history. Sorry, HF happened in ETH several times? Can you validate that statement please? |
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Kewatia
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July 13, 2016, 03:37:19 PM |
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The fund holder stole nothing, he entered into a valid contract and profited. It is not fair but life is not fair. Same conversation too many threads.
The Eth TOKEN is dead on HF. Learn from history do not repeat it.
Yes he did. If he's so sure he didn't steal anything then where is he? Why not reveal himself? Oh yes braise he knows he exploited the code to steal. And HFs happen all the time. So quit fudding. I think so. There is nothing wrong with hard fork. I think the hard fork happened several time in the Ethereum history. Sorry, HF happened in ETH several times? Can you validate that statement please? Hard fork happened when the Frontier was changed to Homestead. It will happen again when PoW change to PoS. |
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July 13, 2016, 03:47:34 PM |
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There is very little chance of them going to jail if this was truly an oversight. Only way I see jail time is if they find this way an inside iob, which is still on the table IMO. They will, however, may deal with some civil suitage after folks get their money back, and start feeling litigious.
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Kewatia
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July 14, 2016, 05:48:07 PM |
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There is very little chance of them going to jail if this was truly an oversight. Only way I see jail time is if they find this way an inside iob, which is still on the table IMO. They will, however, may deal with some civil suitage after folks get their money back, and start feeling litigious.
What kind civil case can they be involved. Is it the responsibility the the US police to find the hacker if its citizen lost money? |
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July 14, 2016, 11:57:50 PM |
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Being a key player in pyramid schemes. Hmmm.... somewhat legally risky perhaps to not release full prospectus of your analysis when you've been a public figure in crypto.... He acquired nearly 1% back during the "sneaky mine" phase. You can understand why he wasn't willing to attack this coin the way he normally attacks pump and dump scams. That $millions bought his "I am not omniscient about the potential future not being a disaster" attitude. (assuming your $5m valuation of his SP is correct) Is that a meritocracy  You can see why he would have an incentive to not speak about how it will be a disaster for those who invest in SP now (requires a 2 year lock up cashed out over 104 weeks), while he is cashing out every week. Chaching. Fools please buy Steemit and give your money to smooth. |
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GreenBits
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July 15, 2016, 01:38:28 AM |
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There is very little chance of them going to jail if this was truly an oversight. Only way I see jail time is if they find this way an inside iob, which is still on the table IMO. They will, however, may deal with some civil suitage after folks get their money back, and start feeling litigious.
What kind civil case can they be involved. Is it the responsibility the the US police to find the hacker if its citizen lost money? The code was promised to be without fault. This isn't a hack as much as a feature legally. Meanwhile, a litigant can easily prove that a) they lost value, b) through no fault of their own, due to c) the negligence of the product/service Creator. That sounds like a lawsuit to me, but meh, I didn't waste my money on this so I don't have a dog in the fight. But if I did, I would sue the dev team for negligence, for the above mentioned reasons. Suffice it to say it simply hasn't happened yet. |
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July 15, 2016, 03:07:22 PM |
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There are going to be some serious legal concerns with the ETH foundation and exchanges who decide to devalue or steal users funds - A decision with a 3.6% voting turnout? http://carbonvote.com/Kraken's policy is to steal users funds on minority chain.  |
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July 15, 2016, 03:10:37 PM |
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There is very little chance of them going to jail if this was truly an oversight. Only way I see jail time is if they find this way an inside iob, which is still on the table IMO. They will, however, may deal with some civil suitage after folks get their money back, and start feeling litigious.
What kind civil case can they be involved. Is it the responsibility the the US police to find the hacker if its citizen lost money? The code was promised to be without fault. This isn't a hack as much as a feature legally. Meanwhile, a litigant can easily prove that a) they lost value, b) through no fault of their own, due to c) the negligence of the product/service Creator. That sounds like a lawsuit to me, but meh, I didn't waste my money on this so I don't have a dog in the fight. But if I did, I would sue the dev team for negligence, for the above mentioned reasons. Suffice it to say it simply hasn't happened yet. Definitely lawsuits are a likely possibility. |
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July 15, 2016, 04:15:52 PM |
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Being a key player in pyramid schemes. Hmmm.... somewhat legally risky perhaps to not release full prospectus of your analysis when you've been a public figure in crypto.... He acquired nearly 1% back during the "sneaky mine" phase. You can understand why he wasn't willing to attack this coin the way he normally attacks pump and dump scams. That $millions bought his "I am not omniscient about the potential future not being a disaster" attitude. (assuming your $5m valuation of his SP is correct) Is that a meritocracy You can see why he would have an incentive to not speak about how it will be a disaster for those who invest in SP now (requires a 2 year lock up cashed out over 104 weeks), while he is cashing out every week. Chaching. Fools please buy Steemit and give your money to smooth. He's a multi-millionaire, you are complaining on a messageboard that's heavily dominated by social awkwardness and nerd rage. I think he took a better path. |
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Hueristic
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July 15, 2016, 04:17:42 PM |
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There are going to be some serious legal concerns with the ETH foundation and exchanges who decide to devalue or steal users funds - A decision with a 3.6% voting turnout? http://carbonvote.com/Kraken's policy is to steal users funds on minority chain. LOL, the clusterfuck begins. What their policy should be is anything on the losing fork should get returned on that fork. Idiots. |
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mandica
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July 16, 2016, 07:05:02 AM |
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There are going to be some serious legal concerns with the ETH foundation and exchanges who decide to devalue or steal users funds - A decision with a 3.6% voting turnout? http://carbonvote.com/Kraken's policy is to steal users funds on minority chain. You can vote there with your Ethereum. But it does not matter much as the miners will vote with their machine on the hard fork. |
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July 18, 2016, 10:17:56 AM |
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There are going to be some serious legal concerns with the ETH foundation and exchanges who decide to devalue or steal users funds - A decision with a 3.6% voting turnout? http://carbonvote.com/Kraken's policy is to steal users funds on minority chain. You can vote there with your Ethereum. But it does not matter much as the miners will vote with their machine on the hard fork. For the time being, 70% of the miners who voted, they vote for the hard fork. The decision is not final yet. |
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Kewatia
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July 18, 2016, 11:35:50 AM |
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There are going to be some serious legal concerns with the ETH foundation and exchanges who decide to devalue or steal users funds - A decision with a 3.6% voting turnout? http://carbonvote.com/Kraken's policy is to steal users funds on minority chain. You can vote there with your Ethereum. But it does not matter much as the miners will vote with their machine on the hard fork. For the time being, 70% of the miners who voted, they vote for the hard fork. The decision is not final yet. We just need to wait for 2 to 3 days to see the result of the hard fork. If there is consensus, the price will rise. |
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