| ARDOR | Scalable Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform | Proof of Stake

[RubenBC]

Welcome again, fellow Nxters! Halloween is almost here and autumn is well underway so grab your favorite warm beverage and catch up on the news from the last week of October. The Nxt Foundation is proud to introduce the ANG, the final round of the IGNIS ICO will begin this week, (sad) news from MyNxt, the announcement of an Android full node client and much more awaits down below.

https://www.nxter.org/nxt-news-october-2017-iv/

[CryptoGreenT]

Hello! I was wondering if someone knew when the main platform of Ardor will be live? I knew that it should be at the beginning of November, am I correct?

[martismartis]

Hello! I was wondering if someone knew when the main platform of Ardor will be live? I knew that it should be at the beginning of November, am I correct?

https://www.jelurida.com/ardor-release-timeline

[Horas Bah]

I want to get a $ 1 price, I've been waiting for it and hope it will happen soon this year.

[elementaryOS]

Hi all.

I believe i may have just made my first big mistake. I sent some Ardor from my Nxt wallet to Bittrex and realized after some time that the transfer would not work. I then saw that i had missed the message part off the transaction. Bittrex notes say it would not credit if i was to leave off the message. Can somebody tell me if I can solve this and get my ardor tokens back?

Chance is, Bittrex won't refund your coins back.

[blaster3ski]

Just contact Bittrex, they have a great customer service dept. I made a mistake that they were able to fix.
It took awhile"4 weeks" however with the right info about the transfer it shouldn't be a problem.

[blaster3ski]

This is the lull before the storm, I Just bought more coins,
It wont be long before a lot of bitcoin will be looking for a home.
My best guess.       

[Sowik]

Damn, when they said Q4 I didn't expect that to be in the very very end of Q4... Anyways, still holding strong.

[chaosfourever]

I'm new in the cryptoworld and just heard about Ardor. It seems to be a solid project. If I invest in Ador, should I invest on Nxt also??

no need to get nxt but you can if you want.  it'd gone up nicely since over a year ago, i don't bother with nxt though.

ARDR shall moon nicely one day for sure.

Thanks for your answer. But the market cap is already too high to expect a huge return.

market cap of Ardor is too low for real

Yes it is. Ardor will be a rival to Ethereum one day. It is better in almost every way and is already gaining child chains. It should blow up next year just as Ethereum did.

[Nightz]

I'm new in the cryptoworld and just heard about Ardor. It seems to be a solid project. If I invest in Ador, should I invest on Nxt also??

no need to get nxt but you can if you want.  it'd gone up nicely since over a year ago, i don't bother with nxt though.

ARDR shall moon nicely one day for sure.

Thanks for your answer. But the market cap is already too high to expect a huge return.

market cap of Ardor is too low for real

Yes it is. Ardor will be a rival to Ethereum one day. It is better in almost every way and is already gaining child chains. It should blow up next year just as Ethereum did.

mate when you say it is almost better in every way, how do you know that? Ardor has not yet been where Ethereum already is. Problems only occur along the way up to the top.

[R-J-F]

I'm new in the cryptoworld and just heard about Ardor. It seems to be a solid project. If I invest in Ador, should I invest on Nxt also??

no need to get nxt but you can if you want.  it'd gone up nicely since over a year ago, i don't bother with nxt though.

ARDR shall moon nicely one day for sure.

Thanks for your answer. But the market cap is already too high to expect a huge return.

market cap of Ardor is too low for real

Yes it is. Ardor will be a rival to Ethereum one day. It is better in almost every way and is already gaining child chains. It should blow up next year just as Ethereum did.

mate when you say it is almost better in every way, how do you know that? Ardor has not yet been where Ethereum already is. Problems only occur along the way up to the top.

His hearts in the right place but, only time will tell if he is right.

[Münzpräger]

I'm new in the cryptoworld and just heard about Ardor. It seems to be a solid project. If I invest in Ador, should I invest on Nxt also??

no need to get nxt but you can if you want.  it'd gone up nicely since over a year ago, i don't bother with nxt though.

ARDR shall moon nicely one day for sure.

Thanks for your answer. But the market cap is already too high to expect a huge return.

market cap of Ardor is too low for real

Yes it is. Ardor will be a rival to Ethereum one day. It is better in almost every way and is already gaining child chains. It should blow up next year just as Ethereum did.

mate when you say it is almost better in every way, how do you know that? Ardor has not yet been where Ethereum already is. Problems only occur along the way up to the top.

His hearts in the right place but, only time will tell if he is right.

ETH's success is 90% due to smart contracts and unless Ardor doesn't implement them one way or the other I don't even see it as a competitor.

[chaosfourever]

I'm new in the cryptoworld and just heard about Ardor. It seems to be a solid project. If I invest in Ador, should I invest on Nxt also??

no need to get nxt but you can if you want.  it'd gone up nicely since over a year ago, i don't bother with nxt though.

ARDR shall moon nicely one day for sure.

Thanks for your answer. But the market cap is already too high to expect a huge return.

market cap of Ardor is too low for real

Yes it is. Ardor will be a rival to Ethereum one day. It is better in almost every way and is already gaining child chains. It should blow up next year just as Ethereum did.

mate when you say it is almost better in every way, how do you know that? Ardor has not yet been where Ethereum already is. Problems only occur along the way up to the top.

His hearts in the right place but, only time will tell if he is right.

ETH's success is 90% due to smart contracts and unless Ardor doesn't implement them one way or the other I don't even see it as a competitor.

Ardor is doing the childchains which is basically the same idea. The more chains it adds and grow the more Ardor grows. And now with decent funding they can finally get the word out and advertise better unlike what they did with NXT. 2018 will be a huge year so get ready.

[hopperclaim]

Didn’t quite get... Where can I buy tokens?

[martismartis]

Didn’t quite get... Where can I buy tokens?

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ardor/#markets

[m4kstep]

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[d5000]

ETH's success is 90% due to smart contracts and unless Ardor doesn't implement them one way or the other I don't even see it as a competitor.

The competition emerges as both can be used as a platform for ICOs and other kinds of crowdfunding, and also as a platform for "private currencies". Ethereum isn't really used much for its advanced smart contract functions. And Ardor's child chains have the advantage that no ARDR transaction fees would have to be paid for token transactions if a bundler is available.

As far as I know, this advantage is unique. Only in "empty blockchains" of Bitcoin-based coins, where zero-fee transactions are possible because of the low usage, this disadvantage does not exist, but empty blockchains aren't a sustainable model for a successful currency ...

[VanBreuk]

And don't forget that many use cases that have gone Ethereum due to market effect could have perfectly used Nxt.

Associating smart contracts with Ethereum and not with Nxt/Ardor, in this sense, is a fallacy. A smart contract allows for self-enforcing rules in a blockchain, and the Nxt architecture provides modules that allow for self-regulating contracts (specially the whole phased transactions API) and other modules that work as a template for frequent uses in Ethereum, like asset/currency issuance and trade.

Turing completeness in Ethereum surely does allow in theory for virtually limitless custom tools, that is undisputed. But the idea behind Nxt/Ardor is modularity, which can simplify implementation of a lot of common cases, even if theoretically limited in scope so far. Enter the scalability provided with Ardor, which in the case of Ethereum (plasma, sharding...) still has a long way to go, and it is quite clear that, if we all put our fanboy hats aside, Ardor can and will be a competing technology.
 

[Münzpräger]

ETH's success is 90% due to smart contracts and unless Ardor doesn't implement them one way or the other I don't even see it as a competitor.

The competition emerges as both can be used as a platform for ICOs and other kinds of crowdfunding, and also as a platform for "private currencies". Ethereum isn't really used much for its advanced smart contract functions. And Ardor's child chains have the advantage that no ARDR transaction fees would have to be paid for token transactions if a bundler is available.

As far as I know, this advantage is unique. Only in "empty blockchains" of Bitcoin-based coins, where zero-fee transactions are possible because of the low usage, this disadvantage does not exist, but empty blockchains aren't a sustainable model for a successful currency ...

And don't forget that many use cases that have gone Ethereum due to market effect could have perfectly used Nxt.

Associating smart contracts with Ethereum and not with Nxt/Ardor, in this sense, is a fallacy. A smart contract allows for self-enforcing rules in a blockchain, and the Nxt architecture provides modules that allow for self-regulating contracts (specially the whole phased transactions API) and other modules that work as a template for frequent uses in Ethereum, like asset/currency issuance and trade.

Turing completeness in Ethereum surely does allow in theory for virtually limitless custom tools, that is undisputed. But the idea behind Nxt/Ardor is modularity, which can simplify implementation of a lot of common cases, even if theoretically limited in scope so far. Enter the scalability provided with Ardor, which in the case of Ethereum (plasma, sharding...) still has a long way to go, and it is quite clear that, if we all put our fanboy hats aside, Ardor can and will be a competing technology.
 

Fair points that I didn't think of. 
However, if you really wanna go toe-to-toe with the big guy (ETH), the ease of use should be comparable. People these days hate desktop wallets for some reason and the NXT one isn't really the most casual friendly or good looking one. On the other hand, nobody in their right mind runs an Ethereum full node at home either. This is why MEW is the de facto official ETH wallet. If Ardor/Jelurida offered a web wallet like MEW or a highly polished desktop wallet I believe this would help immensely.

[MoneyJ]

Didn’t quite get... Where can I buy tokens?

Ardor tokens are readily available at all major crypto exchanges namely bittrex and poloniex. Better hurry up while it is darned cheap before devs could implement child chains.