religion

[techgeek]

Man when we talk about religion some relgions are more absurd then others.

Similar to how theres so many of these scientology places now ever since celebrities get involved like tom cruise back in the day.

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[notbatman]

That image on the left signifies the birth, death and resurrection of Christ.  The green lion is a separate image.  The green lion was a metaphor for something that was sought by alchemists - an elixir of life - a elixir that would heal any sickness.

Sorry dude but that's "not even wrong".


The Green Lion is a 3^rd mostly invisible celestial object in our sky also known as the Black Sun, it's also what causes eclipses.

[BADecker]

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Here is my interpretation:

God had a wife, but she was old, so he found a sweet 16 year old Mary to fuck on the side.  Mary conceived Jesus.  (That is why Christians to this day say God the father and the son are one) Anyway, God's wife came over to talk to Mary, but before should could say a word, Mary's pet the Green Lion attacked her and ate her.  He left the head for Mary as it was customary to stand on just decapitated head, you know, for good luck and prosperity.

Notice that there is makeup on the giant head, so it must be a woman, or a cross-dresser. Hmm, that could be another story for another time folks.

 I am noticing your mind is incapable of abstaction.  Perhaps that's why you can't see that god is everywhere.  I will pray for you.

You want to pray for me? Don't bother.

You want to pray, pray for people you guys burned alive:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_burned_as_heretics

You want to pray, pray for Giordano Bruno, you little prick.  Religion is the most evil concept ever invented.

PS.  Buy an 'r'.  Run a spell checker.  He wants to pray for me?  LOL  What a dick!!!

Thanks, xhomerx10. Our prayers for af_newbie are having their effect. You can tell by the bitterness in his post. The Holy Spirit just might reach him, yet. Perhaps we shall enjoy his presence with us in joy and glory, forever, after all.

[xhomerx10]

I am noticing your mind is incapable of abstaction.  Perhaps that's why you can't see that god is everywhere.  I will pray for you.

The problem is that you do not see god everywhere, you pick and choose

Do you see god in cancer?  AIDS?  Mosquitoes?

Do you see god in atheists and muslims, or just christians?

Do you see your god in all the bad things, or just the good things?

 Yes Melek, I believe all of those things you mentioned are creations of God.

[xhomerx10]

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Here is my interpretation:

God had a wife, but she was old, so he found a sweet 16 year old Mary to fuck on the side.  Mary conceived Jesus.  (That is why Christians to this day say God the father and the son are one) Anyway, God's wife came over to talk to Mary, but before should could say a word, Mary's pet the Green Lion attacked her and ate her.  He left the head for Mary as it was customary to stand on just decapitated head, you know, for good luck and prosperity.

Notice that there is makeup on the giant head, so it must be a woman, or a cross-dresser. Hmm, that could be another story for another time folks.

 I am noticing your mind is incapable of abstaction.  Perhaps that's why you can't see that god is everywhere.  I will pray for you.

You want to pray for me? Don't bother.

You want to pray, pray for people you guys burned alive:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_burned_as_heretics

You want to pray, pray for Giordano Bruno, you little prick.  Religion is the most evil concept ever invented.

PS.  Buy an 'r'.  Run a spell checker.  He wants to pray for me?  LOL  What a dick!!!

 I would imagine with genetics being what they are, the "guys" you speak of are as much yours as mine.  I didn't burn anyone alive.  Giordano Bruno's spirit is with his creator now; he doesn't need my prayers but you do.  Don't worry, it doesn't hurt.

[BADecker]

Christians burned those people.  They did it because of your sick ideology as spelled out in the BIBLE.  Don't tell me you follow the New Testament, your Jesus (aka God) inspired (as the story goes) 40+ people to write these manuals (both OLD and NEW) for other psychopaths.

You can pray all you want, unless Jesus posts on this forum and signs his message with my private bitcoin keys, or shows up in person in my house, I am not going to change my mind.  

Even if he shows up, the first thing I would ask him:  Where the fuck where you you motherfucker when people were killing each other in all the wars, where were you when children were dying from disease, cancer you created....I have a long list, so watch out Jesus...

What am I saying? the dude is DEAD, if he ever existed.

My personal take on this whole Christian story is that Romans invented this myth to keep the poor, non-Roman population in check.

So go ahead pray until you piss in your pants...Hey Jesus, if you have any balls, post here, let's go motherfucker.

xhomerx10, guess what? Jesus will not post here, and he will not show up in person, because he your IMAGINARY friend.  Get this through your thick skull.

There, there my child. Relax and be still.

"Be still and know that I am God."

"Take my yoke upon you and learn of me. For my yoke is easy and by burden is light."

"It's hard for you to kick against the goads."

It will be over soon. Just a little while longer. You are drying up from the drug of this world. The pain seems unbearable. But just a little longer and it will all be over. You can't resist the Holy Spirit working in your heart any longer.

God loves you and gave Himself for you in the form of His Son, on the cross. He loves you so very much...

[xhomerx10]

That image on the left signifies the birth, death and resurrection of Christ.  The green lion is a separate image.  The green lion was a metaphor for something that was sought by alchemists - an elixir of life - a elixir that would heal any sickness.

Sorry dude but that's "not even wrong".


The Green Lion is a 3^rd mostly invisible celestial object in our sky also known as the Black Sun, it's also what causes eclipses.

 The green lion was a mixture of nitric acid and hydrochloric acid.  The sun in that image represents gold and the green lion is dissolving it.

[notbatman]

That image on the left signifies the birth, death and resurrection of Christ.  The green lion is a separate image.  The green lion was a metaphor for something that was sought by alchemists - an elixir of life - a elixir that would heal any sickness.

Sorry dude but that's "not even wrong".


The Green Lion is a 3^rd mostly invisible celestial object in our sky also known as the Black Sun, it's also what causes eclipses.

 The green lion was a mixture of nitric acid and hydrochloric acid.  The sun in that image represents gold and the green lion is dissolving it.

You're full of shit dude.

[Losvienleg]

Over the years, after debating with theists on this and other forums and in person, I came to the conclusion that the religious people are not all the same.  
Depending on their intelligence, they fall into one of the following categories:

50-85 IQ - severely retarded to slightly retarded people unable to distinguish what is real and what is not
           Generally, these people do not understand the content of religious texts but they tend to remember
           and cling on some passages that had been presented and explained to them by others.
           This group is a breeding ground for extremists and terrorists.

86-110 IQ - below average to average intelligence, most likely college or university educated folks, these people understand
            that most of the religious texts cannot be interpreted literally as these are historical texts and
            should be interpreted in the context in which they were written.  They tend to compartmentalize
            their religious beliefs and their understanding of science and the world around them.
            These people would most likely never hurt others in the name of the religion, but generally applaud and
            cheer when others kill in the name of their religion.  There are some atheists in this group but not too many.

111-135 IQ - above average intelligence.  Highly educated people, some holding advanced degrees, they are masters of compartmentalization.
             Less religious than the other groups, but still believe in God the creator.  Pascal wagers are in this group.
             This is a breeding ground for atheists as they analyze the religious texts, find inconsistencies, argue
             with other religious people (often with limited success as the mental gaps are just too great).  
             You might find some hard core religious nuts in this group, but very few since it is very hard for
             these people to reconcile religion with the reality around them.  But they try despite the odds.

136+ IQ- these people are mostly atheists, most of them don't even think about God as it is not something even worth
          thinking about.  The question of religion is as clear as 2+2 or A8+F. They know there is no God, that God concept
          was invented by people to help them understand the complex world.  They see organized religions as political
          and/or business entities.

So which group do you belong to?

The easiest way for a person with an average intelligence to become an atheist is to actually read the Bible, Quran and Talmud.
I can guarantee you, some of you will become atheists after reading the Bible alone, you won't have to read Quran.  But I highly recommend you read all three.

Mostly false, because first, I had IQ tests when I was a child to let me pass a class or not, and guess what, I had 136+. Then, I was not raised all my life in religion. No one ever told me about that, ever ! I made all my conclusions alone. If you read the Bible, even beside the existance of God or not, all the commandements and such are so obvious that everyone should follow them naturally.

Also, if you're giving numbers about the US, this place is full of retards...

[BADecker]

Over the years, after debating with theists on this and other forums and in person, I came to the conclusion that the religious people are not all the same.  
Depending on their intelligence, they fall into one of the following categories:

50-85 IQ - severely retarded to slightly retarded people unable to distinguish what is real and what is not
           Generally, these people do not understand the content of religious texts but they tend to remember
           and cling on some passages that had been presented and explained to them by others.
           This group is a breeding ground for extremists and terrorists.

86-110 IQ - below average to average intelligence, most likely college or university educated folks, these people understand
            that most of the religious texts cannot be interpreted literally as these are historical texts and
            should be interpreted in the context in which they were written.  They tend to compartmentalize
            their religious beliefs and their understanding of science and the world around them.
            These people would most likely never hurt others in the name of the religion, but generally applaud and
            cheer when others kill in the name of their religion.  There are some atheists in this group but not too many.

111-135 IQ - above average intelligence.  Highly educated people, some holding advanced degrees, they are masters of compartmentalization.
             Less religious than the other groups, but still believe in God the creator.  Pascal wagers are in this group.
             This is a breeding ground for atheists as they analyze the religious texts, find inconsistencies, argue
             with other religious people (often with limited success as the mental gaps are just too great).  
             You might find some hard core religious nuts in this group, but very few since it is very hard for
             these people to reconcile religion with the reality around them.  But they try despite the odds.

136+ IQ- these people are mostly atheists, most of them don't even think about God as it is not something even worth
          thinking about.  The question of religion is as clear as 2+2 or A8+F. They know there is no God, that God concept
          was invented by people to help them understand the complex world.  They see organized religions as political
          and/or business entities.

So which group do you belong to?

The easiest way for a person with an average intelligence to become an atheist is to actually read the Bible, Quran and Talmud.
I can guarantee you, some of you will become atheists after reading the Bible alone, you won't have to read Quran.  But I highly recommend you read all three.

Mostly false, because first, I had IQ tests when I was a child to let me pass a class or not, and guess what, I had 136+. Then, I was not raised all my life in religion. No one ever told me about that, ever ! I made all my conclusions alone. If you read the Bible, even beside the existance of God or not, all the commandements and such are so obvious that everyone should follow them naturally.

Also, if you're giving numbers about the US, this place is full of retards...

+1

[xhomerx10]

That image on the left signifies the birth, death and resurrection of Christ.  The green lion is a separate image.  The green lion was a metaphor for something that was sought by alchemists - an elixir of life - a elixir that would heal any sickness.

Sorry dude but that's "not even wrong".


The Green Lion is a 3^rd mostly invisible celestial object in our sky also known as the Black Sun, it's also what causes eclipses.

 The green lion was a mixture of nitric acid and hydrochloric acid.  The sun in that image represents gold and the green lion is dissolving it.

You're full of shit dude.

  Clearly it is a surreal image we are discussing and there may be more than one meaning behind it.  That being said, Alchemists believed that there was a seed from which gold could be grown and that by dissolving and purifying the gold, they could find that seed.  The thought that the "base" metals could be converted to gold.  Considering that the image is taken from the "Rosarium Philosophorum", it would make sense that it has something to do with alchemy/chemistry and less to do with astrology/astronomy. 

[notbatman]

That image on the left signifies the birth, death and resurrection of Christ.  The green lion is a separate image.  The green lion was a metaphor for something that was sought by alchemists - an elixir of life - a elixir that would heal any sickness.

Sorry dude but that's "not even wrong".


The Green Lion is a 3^rd mostly invisible celestial object in our sky also known as the Black Sun, it's also what causes eclipses.

 The green lion was a mixture of nitric acid and hydrochloric acid.  The sun in that image represents gold and the green lion is dissolving it.

You're full of shit dude.

  Clearly it is a surreal image we are discussing and there may be more than one meaning behind it.  That being said, Alchemists believed that there was a seed from which gold could be grown and that by dissolving and purifying the gold, they could find that seed.  The thought that the "base" metals could be converted to gold.  Considering that the image is taken from the "Rosarium Philosophorum", it would make sense that it has something to do with alchemy/chemistry and less to do with astrology/astronomy. 

Fuck off with the creating gold via hocus-pocus bullshit, that's not what Alchemy is about. That's the story repeated to us over and over again by our corrupt authority figures and their mass media propaganda, social and schooling programs.

ANY TIME THE SUBJECT OF ALCHEMY IS BROUGHT UP IT'S LEAD INTO GOLD IN YOUR FACE OVER AND OVER AGAIN!

[bitcoinboy12]

That image on the left signifies the birth, death and resurrection of Christ.  The green lion is a separate image.  The green lion was a metaphor for something that was sought by alchemists - an elixir of life - a elixir that would heal any sickness.

Sorry dude but that's "not even wrong".


The Green Lion is a 3^rd mostly invisible celestial object in our sky also known as the Black Sun, it's also what causes eclipses.

 The green lion was a mixture of nitric acid and hydrochloric acid.  The sun in that image represents gold and the green lion is dissolving it.

You're full of shit dude.

  Clearly it is a surreal image we are discussing and there may be more than one meaning behind it.  That being said, Alchemists believed that there was a seed from which gold could be grown and that by dissolving and purifying the gold, they could find that seed.  The thought that the "base" metals could be converted to gold.  Considering that the image is taken from the "Rosarium Philosophorum", it would make sense that it has something to do with alchemy/chemistry and less to do with astrology/astronomy. 

Fuck off with the creating gold via hocus-pocus bullshit, that's not what Alchemy is about. That's the story repeated to us over and over again by our corrupt authority figures and their mass media propaganda, social and schooling programs.

ANY TIME THE SUBJECT OF ALCHEMY IS BROUGHT UP IT'S LEAD INTO GOLD IN YOUR FACE OVER AND OVER AGAIN!

Loving this more and more. Haha. Going wiki on each other's faces.

[notbatman]

This is the Green Lion's eastern counterpart.




Rahu



Every culture has a different name and a different form but they rhyme and they all point the the same mostly invisible celestial object; The Black Sun.

[Moloch]

Fuck off with the creating gold via hocus-pocus bullshit, that's not what Alchemy is about. That's the story repeated to us over and over again by our corrupt authority figures and their mass media propaganda, social and schooling programs.

ANY TIME THE SUBJECT OF ALCHEMY IS BROUGHT UP IT'S LEAD INTO GOLD IN YOUR FACE OVER AND OVER AGAIN!

Probably because alchemy had 2 primary goals...

Elixir of immortality

...and...

Transmuting base metals into gold

Considering there were only 2 goals... I'm not surprised to see one of them mentioned often... why are you?

[notbatman]

Fuck off with the creating gold via hocus-pocus bullshit, that's not what Alchemy is about. That's the story repeated to us over and over again by our corrupt authority figures and their mass media propaganda, social and schooling programs.

ANY TIME THE SUBJECT OF ALCHEMY IS BROUGHT UP IT'S LEAD INTO GOLD IN YOUR FACE OVER AND OVER AGAIN!

Probably because alchemy had 2 primary goals...

Elixir of immortality

...and...

Transmuting base metals into gold

Considering there were only 2 goals... I'm not surprised to see one of them mentioned often... why are you?

Bullshit "...and..." bullshit.

[Moloch]

This is the Green Lion's eastern counterpart.




Rahu



Every culture has a different name and a different form but they rhyme and they all point the the same mostly invisible celestial object; The Black Sun.

Looks like a black man eating a mango with some croissants on the table

I just gotta say... nice eyebrows mate

[Moloch]

Fuck off with the creating gold via hocus-pocus bullshit, that's not what Alchemy is about. That's the story repeated to us over and over again by our corrupt authority figures and their mass media propaganda, social and schooling programs.

ANY TIME THE SUBJECT OF ALCHEMY IS BROUGHT UP IT'S LEAD INTO GOLD IN YOUR FACE OVER AND OVER AGAIN!

Probably because alchemy had 2 primary goals...

Elixir of immortality

...and...

Transmuting base metals into gold

Considering there were only 2 goals... I'm not surprised to see one of them mentioned often... why are you?

Bullshit "...and..." bullshit.

Don't call it bullshit without providing an alternative explanation... that just makes you look retarded

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemy

Common aims were chrysopoeia, the transmutation of "base metals" (e.g., lead) into "noble" ones (particularly gold); the creation of an elixir of immortality; the creation of panaceas able to cure any disease; and the development of an alkahest, a universal solvent

I suppose I forgot there was a 3rd goal... a universal solvent

[xhomerx10]

That image on the left signifies the birth, death and resurrection of Christ.  The green lion is a separate image.  The green lion was a metaphor for something that was sought by alchemists - an elixir of life - a elixir that would heal any sickness.

Sorry dude but that's "not even wrong".


The Green Lion is a 3^rd mostly invisible celestial object in our sky also known as the Black Sun, it's also what causes eclipses.

 The green lion was a mixture of nitric acid and hydrochloric acid.  The sun in that image represents gold and the green lion is dissolving it.

You're full of shit dude.

  Clearly it is a surreal image we are discussing and there may be more than one meaning behind it.  That being said, Alchemists believed that there was a seed from which gold could be grown and that by dissolving and purifying the gold, they could find that seed.  The thought that the "base" metals could be converted to gold.  Considering that the image is taken from the "Rosarium Philosophorum", it would make sense that it has something to do with alchemy/chemistry and less to do with astrology/astronomy. 

Fuck off with the creating gold via hocus-pocus bullshit, that's not what Alchemy is about. That's the story repeated to us over and over again by our corrupt authority figures and their mass media propaganda, social and schooling programs.

ANY TIME THE SUBJECT OF ALCHEMY IS BROUGHT UP IT'S LEAD INTO GOLD IN YOUR FACE OVER AND OVER AGAIN!

 I believe the pretext to this coversation was the symbolism in the image of the green lion eating the sun.  I can't say I've ever felt like Pb into Au was pushed in my face by authority figures corrupt or otherwise.  Maybe I don't hang out in the right places?  I've never viewed alchemy as anything other than a protoscience.  It was the precursor to modern chemistry.
I didn't realize anyone would still be so passionate about Alchemy.  I apologize if I have offended you as it was "not even my intention".

[notbatman]

Fuck off with the creating gold via hocus-pocus bullshit, that's not what Alchemy is about. That's the story repeated to us over and over again by our corrupt authority figures and their mass media propaganda, social and schooling programs.

ANY TIME THE SUBJECT OF ALCHEMY IS BROUGHT UP IT'S LEAD INTO GOLD IN YOUR FACE OVER AND OVER AGAIN!

Probably because alchemy had 2 primary goals...

Elixir of immortality

...and...

Transmuting base metals into gold

Considering there were only 2 goals... I'm not surprised to see one of them mentioned often... why are you?

Bullshit "...and..." bullshit.

Don't call it bullshit without providing an alternative explanation... that just makes you look retarded

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemy

Common aims were chrysopoeia, the transmutation of "base metals" (e.g., lead) into "noble" ones (particularly gold); the creation of an elixir of immortality; the creation of panaceas able to cure any disease; and the development of an alkahest, a universal solvent

I suppose I forgot there was a 3rd goal... a universal solvent

If you want to say Alchemy has two goals then they're knowledge and the application of knowledge. "As above so below" is the motto so-to-speak.