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June 23, 2016, 12:03:24 AM
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Hello,
I have done quite a bit of research, but haven't found a proper answer yet.
I live in Canada and would like to build a little mining farm out in a shed made of thin steel.
Here it gets bellow -35 degrees Celsius, but miner temperatures go down to only 0 degrees.
What would happen if i had them running in this shed? Wouldn't they heat up the shed enough to keep it warm? Or would they just create moisture and shorten out?
This seems very dangerous...
What would you guys recommend?
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June 23, 2016, 03:49:26 AM
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You can run them in a shed no problem, the heat will warm up and dry up the place. Prepare a plan where you can heat up the place BEFORE starting up the miner, IE do not start the miner at -20 C

1 miner might not be enough to warm however. might need 4 hehe.
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June 23, 2016, 03:52:08 AM
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You can run them in a shed no problem, the heat will warm up and dry up the place. Prepare a plan where you can heat up the place BEFORE starting up the miner, IE do not start the miner at -20 C

1 miner might not be enough to warm however. might need 4 hehe.
Okay thanks. I guess I could also just use a heater to heat up the place before starting them.
And the heat/cold mix won't create too much moisture?
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June 23, 2016, 03:51:14 PM
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It seems really dangerous even if you are able to warm up the place before you turn on them. What does happen if everything goes down for a while and then the devices restart? A disaster, trust me Smiley

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June 23, 2016, 09:28:46 PM
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Why not just run them in your house and re use the heat instead of wating  it in a shed.  I know they can be noisy but seeing as the by product is heat it seems a shame to waste it.  You would be killing 2 birds with 1 stone.

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June 23, 2016, 10:56:27 PM
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Why not just run them in your house and re use the heat instead of wating  it in a shed.  I know they can be noisy but seeing as the by product is heat it seems a shame to waste it.  You would be killing 2 birds with 1 stone.
I would really love to run them at home. But our house is very small, and running 4 of those in the living room will make it extremely loud.
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June 29, 2016, 09:24:18 PM
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You can run them in a shed no problem, the heat will warm up and dry up the place. Prepare a plan where you can heat up the place BEFORE starting up the miner, IE do not start the miner at -20 C

1 miner might not be enough to warm however. might need 4 hehe.
Did some one already had this kind of problem ? It's the first time I hear that miners need a minimum of heat (usually people want the coldest place for their miners so they can overclock/overvolt them).
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June 30, 2016, 07:34:58 AM
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Hello,
I have done quite a bit of research, but haven't found a proper answer yet.
I live in Canada and would like to build a little mining farm out in a shed made of thin steel.
Here it gets bellow -35 degrees Celsius, but miner temperatures go down to only 0 degrees.
What would happen if i had them running in this shed? Wouldn't they heat up the shed enough to keep it warm? Or would they just create moisture and shorten out?
This seems very dangerous...
What would you guys recommend?

I have tried running a few S5's in balcony through last winter. Surprisingly they all survived without any issues at around -20. Below this temp I didn't run them. To prevent dust I put them all under a sofa cover. Fans usually were under 3k rpm. Only time I had problem with it was the router failed to boot up. (yea i threw a wifi router on balcony as a repeater of my main indoor router.)

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June 30, 2016, 04:41:52 PM
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This winter I'll definitely be running some test. It will be very interesting to see just how cold and efficient I can run.
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June 30, 2016, 04:45:09 PM
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Hello,
I have done quite a bit of research, but haven't found a proper answer yet.
I live in Canada and would like to build a little mining farm out in a shed made of thin steel.
Here it gets bellow -35 degrees Celsius, but miner temperatures go down to only 0 degrees.
What would happen if i had them running in this shed? Wouldn't they heat up the shed enough to keep it warm? Or would they just create moisture and shorten out?
This seems very dangerous...
What would you guys recommend?

I have tried running a few S5's in balcony through last winter. Surprisingly they all survived without any issues at around -20. Below this temp I didn't run them. To prevent dust I put them all under a sofa cover. Fans usually were under 3k rpm. Only time I had problem with it was the router failed to boot up. (yea i threw a wifi router on balcony as a repeater of my main indoor router.)

Did you not have any issue with them getting wet? I thought if you run them in extremely cold conditions the heat would cause condensation and then you would start getting water all over your miners which everntually would cause big problems. At -20 i thought maybe your fans could seize up as well unless you were running them without them due to it being cold enough already?

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June 30, 2016, 06:00:22 PM
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Hello,
I have done quite a bit of research, but haven't found a proper answer yet.
I live in Canada and would like to build a little mining farm out in a shed made of thin steel.
Here it gets bellow -35 degrees Celsius, but miner temperatures go down to only 0 degrees.
What would happen if i had them running in this shed? Wouldn't they heat up the shed enough to keep it warm? Or would they just create moisture and shorten out?
This seems very dangerous...
What would you guys recommend?

I have tried running a few S5's in balcony through last winter. Surprisingly they all survived without any issues at around -20. Below this temp I didn't run them. To prevent dust I put them all under a sofa cover. Fans usually were under 3k rpm. Only time I had problem with it was the router failed to boot up. (yea i threw a wifi router on balcony as a repeater of my main indoor router.)

Did you not have any issue with them getting wet? I thought if you run them in extremely cold conditions the heat would cause condensation and then you would start getting water all over your miners which everntually would cause big problems. At -20 i thought maybe your fans could seize up as well unless you were running them without them due to it being cold enough already?

Well of course you need to ensure there would be no tons of snow around your miner. Some slush was fine for me. The sofa cover helped a lot because it was breathable but also kept some warm air inside it. This made the cover like an inflated balloon. inner temperature would be around 10 degC.

You will need to play with the cover a bit so ensure it allows air flow to enter from the bottom tip, while also allows over heated air to escape from the top by poking a few small holes (1~2 cm diameter).

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June 30, 2016, 06:16:03 PM
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I'll probably just run them in a wooden shed that we built not too long ago. And I might just throw in a cheap thermostat and heater to keep it above 10 degrees. The only thing I'd be scared with is running all that in a wooden shed... Might burn down -.-
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July 02, 2016, 10:58:56 AM
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Hello,
I have done quite a bit of research, but haven't found a proper answer yet.
I live in Canada and would like to build a little mining farm out in a shed made of thin steel.
Here it gets bellow -35 degrees Celsius, but miner temperatures go down to only 0 degrees.
What would happen if i had them running in this shed? Wouldn't they heat up the shed enough to keep it warm? Or would they just create moisture and shorten out?
This seems very dangerous...
What would you guys recommend?

I have tried running a few S5's in balcony through last winter. Surprisingly they all survived without any issues at around -20. Below this temp I didn't run them. To prevent dust I put them all under a sofa cover. Fans usually were under 3k rpm. Only time I had problem with it was the router failed to boot up. (yea i threw a wifi router on balcony as a repeater of my main indoor router.)

Did you not have any issue with them getting wet? I thought if you run them in extremely cold conditions the heat would cause condensation and then you would start getting water all over your miners which everntually would cause big problems. At -20 i thought maybe your fans could seize up as well unless you were running them without them due to it being cold enough already?

Well of course you need to ensure there would be no tons of snow around your miner. Some slush was fine for me. The sofa cover helped a lot because it was breathable but also kept some warm air inside it. This made the cover like an inflated balloon. inner temperature would be around 10 degC.

You will need to play with the cover a bit so ensure it allows air flow to enter from the bottom tip, while also allows over heated air to escape from the top by poking a few small holes (1~2 cm diameter).
Haha Awesome ! It seems like a nice setup. Do you have any pictures ?
Wouldn't it be better to store them in a cold place in your house, like a basement ? At least this way the heat would not be lost and you could save a few bucks in heating.
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July 02, 2016, 06:03:57 PM
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Hello,
I have done quite a bit of research, but haven't found a proper answer yet.
I live in Canada and would like to build a little mining farm out in a shed made of thin steel.
Here it gets bellow -35 degrees Celsius, but miner temperatures go down to only 0 degrees.
What would happen if i had them running in this shed? Wouldn't they heat up the shed enough to keep it warm? Or would they just create moisture and shorten out?
This seems very dangerous...
What would you guys recommend?

I have tried running a few S5's in balcony through last winter. Surprisingly they all survived without any issues at around -20. Below this temp I didn't run them. To prevent dust I put them all under a sofa cover. Fans usually were under 3k rpm. Only time I had problem with it was the router failed to boot up. (yea i threw a wifi router on balcony as a repeater of my main indoor router.)

Did you not have any issue with them getting wet? I thought if you run them in extremely cold conditions the heat would cause condensation and then you would start getting water all over your miners which everntually would cause big problems. At -20 i thought maybe your fans could seize up as well unless you were running them without them due to it being cold enough already?

Well of course you need to ensure there would be no tons of snow around your miner. Some slush was fine for me. The sofa cover helped a lot because it was breathable but also kept some warm air inside it. This made the cover like an inflated balloon. inner temperature would be around 10 degC.

You will need to play with the cover a bit so ensure it allows air flow to enter from the bottom tip, while also allows over heated air to escape from the top by poking a few small holes (1~2 cm diameter).
Haha Awesome ! It seems like a nice setup. Do you have any pictures ?
Wouldn't it be better to store them in a cold place in your house, like a basement ? At least this way the heat would not be lost and you could save a few bucks in heating.

lol i wouldn't call it nice but definite did its job throughout the entire winter, and, CHEAP!
I didn't take any pictures of and the rigs were sold a few month ago.
I live in a one bedroom condo so indoor doesn't work for me at all. even you can mine in your basement, the heat can still be hard to manage, depending how good ventilation you have there, but in the winter, i guess it would work well.

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July 03, 2016, 01:12:49 AM
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Hello,
I have done quite a bit of research, but haven't found a proper answer yet.
I live in Canada and would like to build a little mining farm out in a shed made of thin steel.
Here it gets bellow -35 degrees Celsius, but miner temperatures go down to only 0 degrees.
What would happen if i had them running in this shed? Wouldn't they heat up the shed enough to keep it warm? Or would they just create moisture and shorten out?
This seems very dangerous...
What would you guys recommend?

I have tried running a few S5's in balcony through last winter. Surprisingly they all survived without any issues at around -20. Below this temp I didn't run them. To prevent dust I put them all under a sofa cover. Fans usually were under 3k rpm. Only time I had problem with it was the router failed to boot up. (yea i threw a wifi router on balcony as a repeater of my main indoor router.)

Did you not have any issue with them getting wet? I thought if you run them in extremely cold conditions the heat would cause condensation and then you would start getting water all over your miners which everntually would cause big problems. At -20 i thought maybe your fans could seize up as well unless you were running them without them due to it being cold enough already?

Well of course you need to ensure there would be no tons of snow around your miner. Some slush was fine for me. The sofa cover helped a lot because it was breathable but also kept some warm air inside it. This made the cover like an inflated balloon. inner temperature would be around 10 degC.

You will need to play with the cover a bit so ensure it allows air flow to enter from the bottom tip, while also allows over heated air to escape from the top by poking a few small holes (1~2 cm diameter).
Haha Awesome ! It seems like a nice setup. Do you have any pictures ?
Wouldn't it be better to store them in a cold place in your house, like a basement ? At least this way the heat would not be lost and you could save a few bucks in heating.

Thats only if you have a basement. Luckily I don't! Cause everyone around here has flooded basements every summer.
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July 03, 2016, 10:31:39 AM
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Hello,
I have done quite a bit of research, but haven't found a proper answer yet.
I live in Canada and would like to build a little mining farm out in a shed made of thin steel.
Here it gets bellow -35 degrees Celsius, but miner temperatures go down to only 0 degrees.
What would happen if i had them running in this shed? Wouldn't they heat up the shed enough to keep it warm? Or would they just create moisture and shorten out?
This seems very dangerous...
What would you guys recommend?

I have tried running a few S5's in balcony through last winter. Surprisingly they all survived without any issues at around -20. Below this temp I didn't run them. To prevent dust I put them all under a sofa cover. Fans usually were under 3k rpm. Only time I had problem with it was the router failed to boot up. (yea i threw a wifi router on balcony as a repeater of my main indoor router.)

Did you not have any issue with them getting wet? I thought if you run them in extremely cold conditions the heat would cause condensation and then you would start getting water all over your miners which everntually would cause big problems. At -20 i thought maybe your fans could seize up as well unless you were running them without them due to it being cold enough already?

Well of course you need to ensure there would be no tons of snow around your miner. Some slush was fine for me. The sofa cover helped a lot because it was breathable but also kept some warm air inside it. This made the cover like an inflated balloon. inner temperature would be around 10 degC.

You will need to play with the cover a bit so ensure it allows air flow to enter from the bottom tip, while also allows over heated air to escape from the top by poking a few small holes (1~2 cm diameter).
Haha Awesome ! It seems like a nice setup. Do you have any pictures ?
Wouldn't it be better to store them in a cold place in your house, like a basement ? At least this way the heat would not be lost and you could save a few bucks in heating.

Thats only if you have a basement. Luckily I don't! Cause everyone around here has flooded basements every summer.
Have you considered watercooling ? Grin
But why are basements flooded ? Is it because of a lack of isolation or simply because most houses are not very well build and water flows through cracks or something ?
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July 03, 2016, 12:29:46 PM
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You can run them in a shed no problem, the heat will warm up and dry up the place. Prepare a plan where you can heat up the place BEFORE starting up the miner, IE do not start the miner at -20 C

1 miner might not be enough to warm however. might need 4 hehe.
Okay thanks. I guess I could also just use a heater to heat up the place before starting them.
And the heat/cold mix won't create too much moisture?

You should provide a good ventilation in the place. Of course too much moisture will be created but a good ventilation will dry the place out. Miners have their ventilation by themselves but I'm talking about the room ventilation.

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July 03, 2016, 06:03:08 PM
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You can run them in a shed no problem, the heat will warm up and dry up the place. Prepare a plan where you can heat up the place BEFORE starting up the miner, IE do not start the miner at -20 C

1 miner might not be enough to warm however. might need 4 hehe.
Okay thanks. I guess I could also just use a heater to heat up the place before starting them.
And the heat/cold mix won't create too much moisture?

You should provide a good ventilation in the place. Of course too much moisture will be created but a good ventilation will dry the place out. Miners have their ventilation by themselves but I'm talking about the room ventilation.

So a big server room fan cooler to keep the air moving, and a air exhaust flap on the side of the room should do the trick?
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July 04, 2016, 10:42:24 AM
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Im heating my garage and house here in Finland. Last winter there were -30C outside so two S5 kept place around +10 degree. There is no problem if miners are running and ambient temp goes down like to -20C for a while like when you opening garage door but you can't start cold miner. So you have to heat them first so basicly those are just like a cars Cheesy And dont keep them too long in place where is minus degrees because the chips starting to get some ice and after that you get some problems.
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July 17, 2016, 10:04:48 AM
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You can run them in a shed no problem, the heat will warm up and dry up the place. Prepare a plan where you can heat up the place BEFORE starting up the miner, IE do not start the miner at -20 C

1 miner might not be enough to warm however. might need 4 hehe.
Okay thanks. I guess I could also just use a heater to heat up the place before starting them.
And the heat/cold mix won't create too much moisture?

You should provide a good ventilation in the place. Of course too much moisture will be created but a good ventilation will dry the place out. Miners have their ventilation by themselves but I'm talking about the room ventilation.

So a big server room fan cooler to keep the air moving, and a air exhaust flap on the side of the room should do the trick?

I think yes, but you'll see it by yourself: if there is still a lot of moisture in the room - open the flap more or make it bigger, only make sure that the air outside doesn't have more moisture in it than the air inside.

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