[SMAS] Signature Managers against Spam (light version)

[Lutpin]

Like it was on Bitmixer campaign earlier. Users enrolls automatically and starts to spam without any control.

You don't have to go that far, looking at you own signature space already provides an example.

And I would say that some campaign managers' first language isn't English, but they write it pretty well.

So if english isn't my first language and I still am abled to write posts in a way that doesn't make native speakers start bleeding from their eyes,
am I really that wrong for expecting the same from users I am going to pay while writing posts on this forum?  

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[The Sceptical Chymist]

Like it was on Bitmixer campaign earlier. Users enrolls automatically and starts to spam without any control.

You don't have to go that far, looking at you own signature space already provides an example.

And I would say that some campaign managers' first language isn't English, but they write it pretty well.

So if english isn't my first language and I still am abled to write posts in a way that doesn't make native speakers start bleeding from their eyes,
am I really that wrong for expecting the same from users I am going to pay while writing posts on this forum?  

No, that's exactly what I'm saying.  Campaign managers should absolutely expect posts to be comprehensible.  Some English is broken, but some people shouldn't even attempt it.  And the Google translate thing just doesn't work.  I think you and a lot of the other managers do a good job of weeding out the shitposters.  I've seen you guys reject a lot of applicants, and I'm happy to see that.  And as I said, I don't have a problem with the English skills of the campaign managers.  They aren't the ones who are flooding this forum with shit.

[reyhiesa]

How did I end up in not one, but two lists of spammers? By almost never posting in this forum? 

[Lutpin]

How did I end up in not one, but two lists of spammers? By almost never posting in this forum?

It's not how often you post, it's what/where you post.

username: reyhiesa

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[reyhiesa]

How did I end up in not one, but two lists of spammers? By almost never posting in this forum?

It's not how often you post, it's what/where you post.

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So I'm automatically a spammer because I post in that thread? Don't you think you're stretching the definition there a bit?

[Lauda]

But I don't think that SMAS will have affect to forum post quality. Removed users will join other campaigns (there are full of it, paying in altcoins) and will continue to spam. But it's better try to fight against them than don't do anything.

We are well aware of how effective SMAS is/will be. This also makes it easy to identify both managers and services that indirectly endorse spam.

So I'm automatically a spammer because I post in that thread? Don't you think you're stretching the definition there a bit?

Games and rounds 149

[3JOH22A]

So I'm automatically a spammer because I post in that thread? Don't you think you're stretching the definition there a bit?

Games and rounds 149

There will be mark as spamers?   

Also if you think this promotion giveaway is good then come back daily and post on this thread for an additional 0.05 mBTC to your account.

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And remember, come back here every day to get your bonus.
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How abou this all?  

[Lauda]

There will be mark as spamers?    

Depends on the particular user, as this is more on a case-by-case basis. However, the answer is likely yes, since these users usually show no sing of any quality in their (remaining) posts.

How abou this all?  

Anyone truly involved in Bitcoin can't bother doing this for 0.05 mBTC; at least you could delete your own old posts (which is not something any spammer would do).

[3JOH22A]

How abou this all?  

Anyone truly involved in Bitcoin can't bother doing this for 0.05 mBTC; at least you could delete your own old posts (which is not something any spammer would do).

OMG that's "TRAP" 
I realy not looking for rules like this on "Games And Round". Let me know for this rules, Wish can share it so I did respect for forums rules.

[Lauda]

I realy not looking for rules like this on "Games And Round". Let me know for this rules, Wish can share it so I did respect for forums rules.

Rules are campaign specific, and the best ones would completely ignore that section. For example, Bitmixer would not count those posts, thus you would not get paid for them. However, this does not mean that I still wouldn't ban you from it.

[yahoo62278]

As Lutpin said its a case by case basis. If you make a post now and then in games and rounds claiming a giveaway and most of the rest of your posts are quality, then youre most likely gonna be fine and not find yourself on any blacklist. If you only make claims in games and rounds or twitter giveaway claims, your ass will be found on the list.

[Lauda]

Here's the latest weekly update:

Banning Round 4:

This is the list of users that have been banned for the following reason - "Low quality/insubstantial/repetitive posts - SPAM":

Code:

Naoko
Hatuferu
oblivi
brian_23452
Jemzx00
Jambolb2
virusasog
White sugar
rinhunter
neurotypical
maokoto
AtheistAKASaneBrain
marioantonini
Doms

This is the list of users that have been banned for the following reason - "Posting only (or primarily) in local sections AND/OR spam":

Code:

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MISHA165
-aleco-

My lists have been updated and differently formatted now, which can be shown in the Bitmixer thread.

[jamalaezaz]

I got a better Tittle for you:

"Ninja Cat Hunting Street Dogs"


 

[Lauda]

I got a better Tittle for you:
"Ninja Cat Hunting Street Dogs"

I suggest that you stop trolling/trying to be funny. This thread is not self moderated and can easily get derailed. You have issues that you need to take care of in your own campaign anyway.

[Avirunes]

Caught a spammer with many alts and reported it in Known alts thread also:

Alts Connected: Wolf_Pack , Multipulty , brian_23452 , ariesjia ,
gtraah , Zalfrin , izlevinv , to1ga , AceCobra1


Proof of connection:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/03d08725be03207b/addresses (archived link)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1560376.640 (archived link)

AceCobra1 has 1CUKuEdhMz1Ymo8zzzVXxcuqojS7JaLPFB in his profile (archived link)

One of the account is Wolf_Pack which was removed from BitMixer by Lauda and was further removed from Byteball Signature Campaign following spammers list sent by Lauda.

Recently he applied into one of campaigns that I manage with 8 accounts here: http://archive.is/gMt2M

One of his account AceCobra1 still is an active participant of secondstrade signature campaign. (Contacting secondstrade about it)


in list form:

Code:

Wolf_Pack
Multipulty
brian_23452
ariesjia
gtraah
Zalfrin
izlevinv
to1ga
AceCobra1

[Lauda]

One of the account is Wolf_Pack which was removed from BitMixer by Lauda and was further removed from Byteball Signature Campaign following spammers list sent by Lauda.
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Nice find. Everything leads me to believe that they are definitely connected. I've been checking my list, and it seems that all of those were enrolled in Bitmixer at some point. I have tagged every account for severe abuse of signature campaigns. I've already updated all of my lists and added those to the permanent blacklist.

[abhishek.g]

You should not give a damn about who is changing which campaign, its their own personal choice.

We do, and as managers, we should. -> I agree

Rather you should get smarter and choose more than target volume of folks to manage for folks switching signature campaigns in between.

No idea what you want to say with that. -> More people for campaign than required. As simple as that.Its called pipeline.

If a country is poor, you can not make it rich.

First time I read that signature campaigns are responsible for solving poverty all around the world. -> You did not get my point.

So why post some comments about these stuffs?

Yahoo was answering on some comments made earlier in this thread, and I appreciated that. ->I Agree

You can not pay $2 or $5 out of your own pocket, everyone has got issues in life and "Every Single Penny Matters !"

You didn't get the point. -> Hope he wants to say, people should be loyal and not switch for few $(s). If so I already got it .

You are not supposed to torture people by offering them a spot for blacklist as well.

It's torture, and blacklists are sadly necessary currently, to try and fight spam. -> I went american for a while. What about campaign managers not paying exactly as expected ? For Instance : I joined earlier, wore your signature and started posting but you counted me later and paid less.

[bL4nkcode]

How about this guy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=851646
I see there's so many complaints about this user for the issue of spamming and also in trolling, including yahoo from the last campaign he managed, the iconomi.

[digaran]

I agree with this project but one thing we should consider is the fact that admins, owners of campaigns often request numbers of posts that has to be submitted daily which literally saying you need to be a fast poster and since they pay small which again is what they really can afford to pay people wont simply put hours to first read and then think and type a good reply.

And I don't see those managers with many posts required daily in here fighting against the spam because they are the ones promoting and encouraging such behavior.

[Avirunes]

I agree with this project but one thing we should consider is the fact that admins, owners of campaigns often request numbers of posts that has to be submitted daily   which literally saying you need to be a fast poster and since they pay small which again is what they really can afford to pay people wont simply put hours to first read and then think and type a good reply.

I haven't seen any daily campaign with minimum post limit except Bitsupra signature campaign but that too had minimum post limit of 1 post.

Second thing is, meeting maximum posts is not compulsory. Its upto the participant. Also if a user is making a high quality post then campaign manager has no valid reason to ban. But also a user must keep his post pace in control at the same time as well.

No one asked you to post fast. Its upto you whether to keep pace with minimum or post fast or leave it.