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July 30, 2016, 01:06:13 AM
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The next financial crisis could happen next year when the Britain declares Euro exit and financial institutions move out of UK.
There is no reason for banks to leave the UK any more then they would leave any country not in the EU.   Norway isnt in the EU or Switzerland, USA obviously isnt.  Sterling is a reserve currency in of itself, I think the integrity of the country, stability and regulation will have more determination to how much financing is done in the country vs the Euro or EU area just like every company decides around the world where it will do best.

  UK as the world 5th largest economy easily has enough weight to pull away without disintegration or significant damage, it may be at some cost but people are too absolute to say its all negative when every trade agreement includes positives and negatives for both sides.   UK will still trade with EU but not in a fixed universal agreement

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July 30, 2016, 03:30:10 AM
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if that news talk about China, maybe it will give an affect for bitcoin price. where there is the bigger population that using bitcoin.
but Italy? i think no. there's no effect.

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July 30, 2016, 03:50:21 AM
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This may have been mentioned already, but today only one bank failed the European "Stress Tests" results that came out today:

Monte dei Paschi di Siena, a bank well-known for being in big trouble.  It's also the oldest (surviving) bank in the world.

Neither Douche Bank nor other worthy candidates failed the Stress Tests. 

Make that of it what you will.  Note that they lie too.  Beware.
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July 30, 2016, 11:06:45 AM
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if that news talk about China, maybe it will give an affect for bitcoin price. where there is the bigger population that using bitcoin.
but Italy? i think no. there's no effect.

The Italian banking crisis could affect the Euro price. It will drag down the Euro and people will buy bitcoin.

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July 30, 2016, 11:50:53 AM
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if that news talk about China, maybe it will give an affect for bitcoin price. where there is the bigger population that using bitcoin.
but Italy? i think no. there's no effect.

The Italian banking crisis could affect the Euro price. It will drag down the Euro and people will buy bitcoin.
Vote for brexit has led to a renewed flare-up of anxiety about the European financial system, and it looks like Italy may be the next European country to face a crisis. Italian banks have about $400 billion in bad loans on their balance sheets, and markets have started to panic. That's Euro can be drag down.
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July 30, 2016, 12:28:17 PM
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I read an article in the WSJ about the banking problems in Italy. The impact could be much worse than Greece for fiat currency. One could argue that debt based currency and intermediary parties are the main causes (Satoshi).
 
Are we going to see the next financial crisis this year? Do you think this will affect the bitcoin price this year?


The banking problems in Italy can hit really bad the euro,but i don`t think that there`s going to have any

impact over bitcoin price.Most of the large european banks have problems,but the European central bank will

help them with funds.

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July 30, 2016, 12:45:36 PM
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Well, I guess if the economic crisis in a country, the best way to secure your money is by investing into bitcoin, so I think this will make an impact on the price of bitcoin, and it will make a very good impact, perhaps the price of bitcoin will rise again with a high , and it could be the price of bitcoin until the price of $ 900

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July 30, 2016, 03:25:01 PM
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Seeing financial crisis or not within this year is not actual fact that can pump the bitcoin price because the recent greece financial crisis and brexit haven't affected the bitcoin price much as expected.

However if bitcoin can be brought down to even small level of citizens like farmers, local merchants and even a tea shop in every country than they may start saving in bitcoin rather than in their banks creating high demand of bitcoin and price may get pumped hard. And this can also save them from lossing all they have during such financial crisis in their country.
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July 31, 2016, 07:59:14 AM
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Seeing financial crisis or not within this year is not actual fact that can pump the bitcoin price because the recent greece financial crisis and brexit haven't affected the bitcoin price much as expected.

However if bitcoin can be brought down to even small level of citizens like farmers, local merchants and even a tea shop in every country than they may start saving in bitcoin rather than in their banks creating high demand of bitcoin and price may get pumped hard. And this can also save them from lossing all they have during such financial crisis in their country.

The financial crisis will not affect the bitcoin price too much. The bitcoin price is too volatile is too risky itself.

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July 31, 2016, 08:04:08 AM
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i heard about italian bank crysis and i hope italian can solve their bank crisis and especially italian can accepted bitcoin as other currency beside fiat. if italian accepted bitcoin, then bitcoin will be more good in future as italian is a country with good government and good people.

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July 31, 2016, 09:36:58 AM
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if that news talk about China, maybe it will give an affect for bitcoin price. where there is the bigger population that using bitcoin.
but Italy? i think no. there's no effect.

The Italian banking crisis could affect the Euro price. It will drag down the Euro and people will buy bitcoin.

You are right but only 1 out of 10 people or maybe even much less will be buying bitcoin in a time like that. The rest will be buying USD. And if they mostly buy Usd, that may lower bitcoin price further instead of pumping it.

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July 31, 2016, 10:29:21 AM
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If next world crisis will happen it will affect on bitcoin's price foes sure. Didn't hear anything about situation with Italian banks. And I hope the situation like in Greece will never ever happen. We all remember what happen with world's economy that time. I think the European Union will help to Italy with it's financial problems if it happen.
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July 31, 2016, 11:12:30 AM
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Yea they have same problem like Greece corrupted MMF is destroying him but I didnt know about Italy banks system problems.I think that for Italy will be almost impossible to get rid of thaf debt and that bankrupt will come.EU dont have brain to save country.They are just destroying countries like example they send Greece to big debt and bankrupt.
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July 31, 2016, 11:28:09 AM
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Well, I guess if the economic crisis in a country, the best way to secure your money is by investing into bitcoin, so I think this will make an impact on the price of bitcoin, and it will make a very good impact, perhaps the price of bitcoin will rise again with a high , and it could be the price of bitcoin until the price of $ 900
exactly right, that's the only way will make some people trust to keep their money safe without worry would get inflation by economic crisis and i'm sure that day it will come.

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Yea they have same problem like Greece corrupted MMF is destroying him but I didnt know about Italy banks system problems.I think that for Italy will be almost impossible to get rid of thaf debt and that bankrupt will come.EU dont have brain to save country.They are just destroying countries like example they send Greece to big debt and bankrupt.

No country ever tries to get rid of its debt.
They just keep rolling it over.
Think what would happen if America had to repay its debt.
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July 31, 2016, 03:26:52 PM
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I'm not a trader but it would almost be a blanket EU bank short.

The likes of Deutsche Bank have already tanked a shit ton...currently at €12, down from a 2013 high of €33......short now, and be prepared to be flushed out.....

(although I guess perhaps shorting the flush out might be a strategy)

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July 31, 2016, 05:19:54 PM
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Here is a fairly in-depth article on the recent "Stress Test" on various European banks:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-31/news-flash-european-stress-test-results-didn%E2%80%99t-disclose-all-failed-banks

It's not just the Italian banks.  There are a lot of rotten banks in Europe.  If a severe financial event strikes Europe, there will be ugly problems.
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July 31, 2016, 06:36:02 PM
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At this point another financial crisis is unavoidable and this time it will be uglier than 2008. The upside is, you can always make money from that, and BTC is looking like an excellent hedge. The system is fucked and BTC is a good life saver.
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July 31, 2016, 07:08:03 PM
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I am on for a bet on further depreciation of the Euro. We saw some recovering from the Euro on Friday but only because the US GDP for the 2nd quarter was slightly lower than expected. Once the market absorb this news which I think it will starting from tomorrow the Euro will continue to depreciate. Even if the Italian bank crisis doesn't unfold soon still the euro will depreciate. The EU is with negative interest rates while US is on positive ones. It all depends from the politics of the central banks to know how the course of the currencies will go, the currency which has a positive interest rate should logically be more strong than that with a negative interest rate.




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August 01, 2016, 11:02:38 AM
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I am on for a bet on further depreciation of the Euro. We saw some recovering from the Euro on Friday but only because the US GDP for the 2nd quarter was slightly lower than expected. Once the market absorb this news which I think it will starting from tomorrow the Euro will continue to depreciate. Even if the Italian bank crisis doesn't unfold soon still the euro will depreciate. The EU is with negative interest rates while US is on positive ones. It all depends from the politics of the central banks to know how the course of the currencies will go, the currency which has a positive interest rate should logically be more strong than that with a negative interest rate.

When the Italian bank problem materialises, the Euro will depreciate a lot as the Italian economy is big.

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