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June 12, 2011, 04:33:18 AM |
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Gavin created bitcoin-development mailing list at SourceForge, for more focused devel talk. The forum is rapidly becoming unusable for 'serious work'.
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There are several different types of Bitcoin clients. The most secure are full nodes like Bitcoin Core, which will follow the rules of the network no matter what miners do. Even if every miner decided to create 1000 bitcoins per block, full nodes would stick to the rules and reject those blocks.
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Cdecker
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June 12, 2011, 07:31:42 AM |
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Just a quick question: is this just for mainline client dev, or are we alternative developers allowed to ask questions too?
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jgarzik (OP)
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June 12, 2011, 07:32:51 AM |
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Just a quick question: is this just for mainline client dev, or are we alternative developers allowed to ask questions too? You'd have to ask Gavin to be 100% sure, but I think that anybody working on software that deals with the bitcoin network should be welcome...
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Cdecker
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June 12, 2011, 07:34:17 AM |
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Great thanks, looking forward to the list. The forum just became too crowded lately, and a lot of FUD around...
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jgarzik (OP)
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June 12, 2011, 07:40:42 AM |
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Great thanks, looking forward to the list. The forum just became too crowded lately, and a lot of FUD around...
See my comments in this thread, also. The forum just isn't suited for introducing new people to bitcoin, anymore. It scares off more business-professionals than it attracts.
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davux
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June 12, 2011, 07:29:51 PM |
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Just a quick question: is this just for mainline client dev, or are we alternative developers allowed to ask questions too? You'd have to ask Gavin to be 100% sure, but I think that anybody working on software that deals with the bitcoin network should be welcome... I think they should, too. The list should be about discussing the protocol evolutions, not only C++ code for this particular client. As many pointed out, it's problematic that there is only one client. As in any internet protocol, the protocol itself should be very well described, in a formal way, so that multiple implementations may exist. This is all for the health of Bitcoin. That's why I think the list should encourage generic protocol discussions, and alternative software development.
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Gavin Andresen
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June 12, 2011, 10:01:05 PM |
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Just a quick question: is this just for mainline client dev, or are we alternative developers allowed to ask questions too? As long as the questions are core-bitcoin-related and not specific to your alternative client. Good alternative client question: "I'm writing an alternative client that doesn't store private keys at all (they are generated from the user's password). But I'll need a bitcoin protocol message that does XYZ to make it work; are other clients willing to support that new message?" Bad alternative client question: "I'm coding my alternative client in Forth; what's the best GUI toolkit to use?"
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How often do you get the chance to work on a potentially world-changing project?
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Cdecker
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June 13, 2011, 08:40:00 AM |
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Just a quick question: is this just for mainline client dev, or are we alternative developers allowed to ask questions too? As long as the questions are core-bitcoin-related and not specific to your alternative client. Good alternative client question: "I'm writing an alternative client that doesn't store private keys at all (they are generated from the user's password). But I'll need a bitcoin protocol message that does XYZ to make it work; are other clients willing to support that new message?" Bad alternative client question: "I'm coding my alternative client in Forth; what's the best GUI toolkit to use?" Yup, I guess most questions will be about the protocol anyway, so there's no problem there. Is the mailing list moderated? I think that would be usefull (unless we try to repeat the mess of the forum).
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Pieter Wuille
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July 06, 2011, 09:39:39 AM |
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Can this thread be made sticky?
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I do Bitcoin stuff.
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July 06, 2011, 10:15:02 AM |
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Just a quick question: is this just for mainline client dev, or are we alternative developers allowed to ask questions too? "I'm writing an alternative client that doesn't store private keys at all (they are generated from the user's password). But I'll need a bitcoin protocol message that does XYZ to make it work; are other clients willing to support that new message?" This is fantastic.
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July 14, 2011, 09:01:26 PM |
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m3ta
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October 05, 2011, 01:44:20 AM |
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The mailing list is rapidly becoming unusable for 'serious work' too.
+1 When you have so many "mailing list top-posts quoting original signatures" (aka: lame) without explicit rules of "ML etiquette", that is inevitable. But, indeed, with lack of any planning, it happened fast. Too fast.
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jl2035
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November 21, 2012, 11:54:01 AM |
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I wonder how there are still people that doesn't hate mailing lists.
Mailing lists are a piece of **** comparing them to forums or stackexchange sites...
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Pieter Wuille
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November 21, 2012, 01:56:38 PM |
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Mailing lists are a piece of **** comparing them to forums or stackexchange sites...
They serve different purpose. Stackexchange and forums are not good platforms for discussion.
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I do Bitcoin stuff.
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jl2035
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November 22, 2012, 11:52:34 AM |
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Mailing lists are a piece of **** comparing them to forums or stackexchange sites...
They serve different purpose. Stackexchange and forums are not good platforms for discussion. so you're saying that mailing lists are... I think I understand that, but they are definitely not very kind for reading.
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BitcoinAshley
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March 18, 2013, 05:47:52 PM |
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Well, they are only not kind for reading when people blatantly disregard mailing list etiquette, as was shown in the examples above.
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June 09, 2013, 08:07:13 PM |
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Great thanks, looking forward to the list. The forum just became too crowded lately, and a lot of FUD around...
See my comments in this thread, also. The forum just isn't suited for introducing new people to bitcoin, anymore. It scares off more business-professionals than it attracts. That was a prophetic statement that is so true. Business people may well be put off by the slagging matches and so on. Im not sure if its an age group thing or just the mentality that creates that grinding effect, but its not really needed or warranted... Best left in the playground
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June 18, 2013, 09:07:43 PM |
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Yes. Best left on the playground. I don't understand why this goes on.
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Mooshire
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June 19, 2013, 02:55:29 AM |
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If you're going to use a mailing list, why not use BitMessage?
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bernard75
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June 29, 2013, 06:17:30 PM |
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If you're going to use a mailing list, why not use BitMessage?
I second that.
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virtualmaster
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December 10, 2013, 08:01:31 PM |
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If you're going to use a mailing list, why not use BitMessage?
A very good question.
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whiskers75
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December 11, 2013, 04:16:54 PM |
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This list is becoming cluttered, like the forum... :\
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Altoidnerd
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December 16, 2013, 12:54:32 AM |
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This list is becoming cluttered, like the forum... :\
I only want to address the people that I interacted with on a previous thread about wireless bitcoin. What would accomplish that?
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May 21, 2014, 12:47:43 AM |
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Thanks for the information, I signed up with my email. About how often do you get messages sent out?
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Etanllah
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May 27, 2014, 02:50:03 PM |
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Is there any advantage to joining this mailing list as a bitcoin investor?
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June 01, 2014, 09:37:37 AM |
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Great thanks, looking forward to the list. The forum just became too crowded lately, and a lot of FUD around...
See my comments in this thread, also. The forum just isn't suited for introducing new people to bitcoin, anymore. It scares off more business-professionals than it attracts. yeah i agree with u it really create scare for current business professionals
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luckypyrate
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June 06, 2014, 12:32:57 PM |
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Is there any advantage to joining this mailing list as a bitcoin investor?
I would say probably not unless you have a tech background. You may not understand what is being discussed, or misinterpret what is being said and making bad judgement calls based on that. Normally I would say all that would be fine as long as you ask lots of questions, but I don't think people would take very kindly to questions relative to investment strategy in a forum for tech/dev discussion.
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Life is too serious to be taken seriously
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mtomcdev
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July 25, 2014, 06:36:07 PM |
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BitMessage could work.
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RappelzReborn
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August 21, 2014, 09:30:57 AM |
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I may be an idiot , but what mailing list means Iam rly new at this whole BTC things
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pandalion98
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September 06, 2014, 01:57:02 PM |
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Maybe create another forum with very strict rules? It should be simple enough.
-Make a subdomain (e.g. dev.bitcointalk.org) -install a fresh, updated copy of SMF on /dev -enforce strict rules (a lot of moderators would help) -registrations must be admin/moderator approved
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September 12, 2014, 11:31:32 AM |
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ok, really helped
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October 01, 2014, 08:32:39 AM |
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I may be an idiot , but what mailing list means Iam rly new at this whole BTC things join the question, btw
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October 01, 2014, 08:58:56 AM |
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Great thanks, looking forward to the list. The forum just became too crowded lately, and a lot of FUD around...
See my comments in this thread, also. The forum just isn't suited for introducing new people to bitcoin, anymore. It scares off more business-professionals than it attracts. yeah i agree with u it really create scare for current business professionals is it bad? Great thanks, looking forward to the list. The forum just became too crowded lately, and a lot of FUD around...
See my comments in this thread, also. The forum just isn't suited for introducing new people to bitcoin, anymore. It scares off more business-professionals than it attracts. yeah i agree with u it really create scare for current business professionals is it bad?
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October 19, 2014, 07:40:33 AM |
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Great thanks, looking forward to the list. The forum just became too crowded lately, and a lot of FUD around...
See my comments in this thread, also. The forum just isn't suited for introducing new people to bitcoin, anymore. It scares off more business-professionals than it attracts. yeah i agree with u it really create scare for current business professionals is it bad? Great thanks, looking forward to the list. The forum just became too crowded lately, and a lot of FUD around...
See my comments in this thread, also. The forum just isn't suited for introducing new people to bitcoin, anymore. It scares off more business-professionals than it attracts. yeah i agree with u it really create scare for current business professionals is it bad? I think it is not so bad bro.
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May 03, 2015, 01:52:44 PM |
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Thank you for sharing us this information!
Mailing lists are different than forums but also their purposes are different. However, as within a forum, within a mailing list there is a kind of mailing list etiquette that if people disregard the whole thing can turn out in the uncomfortable way. If used in the professional way, it could be attractive, though, just like at forums with professional administration and strict moderation.
Anyway, why not to use BitMessage?
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August 09, 2015, 09:31:53 PM |
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If you're going to use a mailing list, why not use BitMessage?
Maybe in the future they will include this option
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October 21, 2015, 09:34:27 AM |
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Great thanks, looking forward to the list. The forum just became too crowded lately
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October 30, 2015, 05:50:30 AM |
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That was a prophetic statement that is so true. Business people may well be put off by the slagging matches and so on. Im not sure if its an age group thing or just the mentality that creates that grinding effect, but its not really needed or warranted... Best left in the playground
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