[POLL] Should Butterfly Labs (BFL) get a Scammer tag?

[Bitsaurus]

Complaining about BFL can result in forced cancellations of your pre-orders.

Be careful folks.

Mums the word.

Sock puppet is the word...... or wear protection....

So 10K new users on Bitcointalk this week then? 

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[MooC Tals]

Complaining about BFL can result in forced cancellations of your pre-orders.

Be careful folks.

Mums the word.

Sock puppet is the word...... or wear protection....

So 10K new users on Bitcointalk this week then? 

Thats a bit of an underestimate considering bfl order pre-order numbers

[jjdub7]

Complaining about BFL can result in forced cancellations of your pre-orders.

Be careful folks.

They should receive a scammer tag for this reason alone.

[becoin]

Now it is more than obvious that BFL is a scam. I see a lot of red faces among the mods on this forum. They should publicly apologize to me!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137026.0

[AlexBBB]

Complaining about BFL can result in forced cancellations of your pre-orders.

Be careful folks.

They should receive a scammer tag for this reason alone.

Signed! +1

[CryptoBullion]

There is no reason BFL should get a scammer tag - It isn't their fault that people fell for a product that would clearly never be made.

i hope this is sarcasm....

looks like sarcasm....

but its hard to tell with all the idiots.

[MooC Tals]

They scammed us into investing in thier company saying that thier product was in the "final stage of development, Shipping by the end of XYZ MONTH HERE, Preorder NOW!"

Thier product is not a scam.
Thier business is CROOKED AS HELL, and they scammed us into buying all thier hardware for them, All that equipment, the waffers, the testing, manhours, we payed for it all as "preorder customers"

Where in real life, when you pay for someones tools, equipment, matierals, manhours of labour, and they construct something from all those things that you purchased for them, Your considered a fucking investor
The fucking thing would not have been constructed without your money

Complaining about BFL can result in forced cancellations of your pre-orders.

Be careful folks.

And they pull all this Bullshit knowing that if they play with bitcoins, The police wont do anything.
The fucker seemingly leading the operation was Convited of Mail FRAUD
A convicted fraudster!, he Clearly Knows what he's doing when it comes down to how to bend the rules and duck under the laws

Where is the police?!, Nobody is calling them, and BFL's entire operation hinges on weather or not they are scammers. Who decides when this "business" has gone too far? this is some serious Bullshit.

Yes, They do have the right to refuse service to customers, A business has that right.
But you dont get to fucking cancel orders that are more than half a year old just because you dont like what the persons freedom of speech sounds like

People are too stupid to understand such lucid logic. Everything you said I agree 100% and the ones that deny your freedom of speech or disagree with anything you have said here either have something to lose or admit they're backing the wrong side.

I have been on both sides and as the proverbial saying goes, I have given them enough rope to hang them selves. I believe that it will require substantially a great deal more (rope) for everyone to see the truth. It will be apparent in due time. Trust me.

To be devils advocate if BFL started out as a legit way and were to use the pre-order money as a percentage of the RnD and things went wrong and now their in a desperate catch up game, I can see that happening. Then again it's not like it has not happened before with his other ventures in other businesses including the FPGA bull of last time around. It's like there are no more excuses for this company. However there are plenty being made up from their customers that have everything to lose.

These customers of BFL are still in the denial stage of an abusive relationship. However they will never understand the scam to its full diabolic state as most of them are not sociopaths and registering those thoughts of actually taking advantage large groups of people is not within their abilities.

Like a child would never suspect wrong doing from a person like Santa Claus. When they catch on they will take this experience with them for life.

[MooC Tals]

There is no reason BFL should get a scammer tag - It isn't their fault that people fell for a product that would clearly never be made.

i hope this is sarcasm....

looks like sarcasm....

but its hard to tell with all the idiots.

Good test If you detect sarcasm then your not one of those idiots.

[m3ta]

There is no reason BFL should get a scammer tag - It isn't their fault that people fell for a product that would clearly never be made.

i hope this is sarcasm....

looks like sarcasm....

but its hard to tell with all the idiots.

Good test If you detect sarcasm then your not one of those idiots.

As opposed to the idiots for whom http://youryoure.com/ is too hard to follow..

[MooC Tals]

There is no reason BFL should get a scammer tag - It isn't their fault that people fell for a product that would clearly never be made.

i hope this is sarcasm....

looks like sarcasm....

but its hard to tell with all the idiots.

Good test If you detect sarcasm then your not one of those idiots.

As opposed to the idiots for whom http://youryoure.com/ is too hard to follow..

Oh you caught that eh? How's YOUR order with BFL coming?

lol your a reel gramar corecting ramboo, eye gotta keep u bizzy an all dat. << Have fun

[EBM]

There is no reason BFL should get a scammer tag - It isn't their fault that people fell for a product that would clearly never be made.

i hope this is sarcasm....

looks like sarcasm....

but its hard to tell with all the idiots.

Good test If you detect sarcasm then your not one of those idiots.

As opposed to the idiots for whom http://youryoure.com/ is too hard to follow..

You missed a dot... or maybe added one.

One or three. Never two or four.

(Five is right out.)

#grammyawards

[guitarplinker]

So they cancel your order if you diss their product that they've used for personal profit with your payment that you've waited up to 1+ years for? The product they keep saying will ship soon but only ships ~20-100 at a time?

I don't see why they don't have a scammer tag already. This POS company deserves more than a scammer tag....

[alexhaj]

SO they claim to have started shipping at the beginning of May.  Has anyone received their products yet?

[EBM]

SO they claim to have started shipping at the beginning of May.  Has anyone received their products yet?

On http://www.butterflylabs.com/bitforce-sc-faq/ NOW: "Our ASIC based products ranging from 4.5 GH/s to 1,500 GH/s are currently scheduled for availability in February, 2013."

They also have some golden-egg laying geese. That they would rather YOU made the money from. Such nice people...

[smoothie]

I made the following post last July in which I indicated it made NO SENSE how BFL could make power/speed claims on ASICs without actually developed them.

I have just one question: How can you know that your ASICS/rigs you are touting/preordering going to have as much hashing power as you claim on your website unless you have already created the ASICs and benchmarked them.

This question I need answered.

To claim a rig will have a hash rate and not be able to actually sell (more importantly, demonstrate its hashing capabilities), says that you likely don't have the technology at all. Otherwise why not just keep the hardware secret and mine happily for the rest of bitcoinity and make tons more profit?

 

[Frizz23]

I made the following post last July in which I indicated it made NO SENSE how BFL could make power/speed claims on ASICs without actually developed them.

Dude! You annoy BFL sheeple since one year? No wonder your Ignore button is dark orange 

[smoothie]

I made the following post last July in which I indicated it made NO SENSE how BFL could make power/speed claims on ASICs without actually developed them.

Dude! You annoy BFL sheeple since one year? No wonder your Ignore button is dark orange 

YES! 

[EBM]

Voting seems pretty clear. Time to send BFL to scamland.

Even now, they're advertising all over Google/Gmail with an FAQ that says they started shipping in Feb.

Liars - and foul-mouthed bad-tempered ones at that.

 

[Bicknellski]

Voting seems pretty clear. Time to send BFL to scamland.

Even now, they're advertising all over Google/Gmail with an FAQ that says they started shipping in Feb.

Liars - and foul-mouthed bad-tempered ones at that.

 

[Matthew N. Wright]

We payed for thier dream creation

And all we got was a nightmare.