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December 10, 2016, 04:44:03 AM
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I have seen cases, on the internet, of people who have made fortunes out of it, and these people attribute most of the gains to strategy. I think there are actually strategies that help reduce risk, but luck will always be the deciding factor.

There are people, for example, who had never bet before and made fortunes, even without having the experience of other gamblers.

Well described the facts behind luck and strategy. Luck will always act as the deciding factor, while the strategies made after going through a series of events faced by a particular player or a team gives a hope of winning the bet.
We can't deny the fact that even if we have made a good analysis of the game we still want to be have a greater chance and hope that luck will be with us every time we gamble. True that we need luck but depending on it is not a good attitude if you are rooting for a long term success.

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December 10, 2016, 08:12:08 AM
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I have seen cases, on the internet, of people who have made fortunes out of it, and these people attribute most of the gains to strategy. I think there are actually strategies that help reduce risk, but luck will always be the deciding factor.

There are people, for example, who had never bet before and made fortunes, even without having the experience of other gamblers.

Well described the facts behind luck and strategy. Luck will always act as the deciding factor, while the strategies made after going through a series of events faced by a particular player or a team gives a hope of winning the bet.
We can't deny the fact that even if we have made a good analysis of the game we still want to be have a greater chance and hope that luck will be with us every time we gamble. True that we need luck but depending on it is not a good attitude if you are rooting for a long term success.
We really do always hope for luck to be with us no matter what kind of gambling games we do play we still call out for luck since we know that if we are lucky enough we would eventually win on a particular game. Thats why its being called gambling since results are random and you will really need off some luck in order to win because if luck isnt on your side you will definitely lose.

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December 10, 2016, 09:56:55 AM
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Of course, how can you deny that luck is a huge factor in gambling??? All legit gambling websites are provably fair. So, if luck wasnt a factor, all would have won big and same amounts. Strategy can help to minimize losses but luck is the only thing that decides whether you win or not.

However, Roulette and Dice are among the types of gambling that require luck, but sports betting actually needs more skill than luck, the skill to analyze teams and predict.
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December 10, 2016, 01:28:34 PM
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I am totally believe that gambling is depend on luck and nothing else. You know in gambling only one thing we need it and final it, and that is Luck.
I will not talk more than without luck in gambling. We can play every game, even we have experience and also very well in all strategy but without luck that's all are useless.

Then your assumption is wrong. Even those who promotes luck over matters still does always advises everyone that it is just a bonus for everything you do just like gambling. Playing smart would still be more dominant than you were saying  a pure luck.

Can anyone define luck?  Anyway, I agree that there are certain games where the dominant factor is strategy and skill, but sometimes, the chance of the inferior team to win occurs.  This is called an upset win, or bad beat in poker terms.  I can say, chance to win or lose can never be omitted  in a competition.  Even with dice or roulette, it is that in this two gambling game, the chance to lose is pretty dominant because of it's ratio to winning. 


"can anyone define luck?" Yes, of course there is luck is a word and a word wouldn't be made without any definition. The inferiority that you were saying is another situation as well because first those gambling sites were programmed to let the owner gain its profit and share some dividends to well as you said those lucky players that plays during that time.

Right, i also know that luck is a word, but inside it has a lot of facilities for us.
Also i don't think that anyone need to explanation and definition about luck. Everyone know that luck is a God gifted thing, and also everyone no have it. So basically, we use word luck in gambling, because we know that gambling is a risky way, and in this situation, we mustily need luck.

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December 10, 2016, 01:41:44 PM
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i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

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December 10, 2016, 05:22:46 PM
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When we came into a gambling place we have no idea whether we will leave it with huge money in our pocket or we will leave that place with nothing in our pocket. It all depends on luck. For me, luck is the major factor in gambling action.

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December 10, 2016, 05:59:11 PM
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Yes there is nothing  that you can really do to gain more luck it is all luck based. Luck is not something you can influence but I also want to say even in skill based games and activities there is still luck. Luck always plays apart in the things we do. It just varies in amounts.

 
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December 10, 2016, 11:49:47 PM
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i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

If you think like that and gambling to make a profit then most likely you're an addicted gambler. Even though those games are designed based on mathematical background but we can't think all those probabilities which computer can think and decide which will be the next result. And that's why we call the end result is based on luck.
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December 11, 2016, 12:04:37 PM
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I do 100 % believe without having luck you can not win any gambling. I shall say even in skilled base gambling having luck means you get good supporting cards which have their own role in winning or loosing. If analysis and information was everything then people were always winning and gambling books were closed long ago. The figures are telling different story.
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December 11, 2016, 01:26:26 PM
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Gambling is luck. Yes, using a good strategy may increase your chances of winning but if only luck is on your side. Even skill based gambling like poker require some luck.
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December 11, 2016, 02:35:18 PM
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i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

Best answer so far LOL
Gambling is not a math no matter how smart you are to calculate numbers, it wont change the result. It has nothing to do with your brain, but if you used to calculate random numbers then I'm sure you will be crazy sooner/later because of the numbers.

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December 11, 2016, 02:43:46 PM
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i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

Best answer so far LOL
Gambling is not a math no matter how smart you are to calculate numbers, it wont change the result. It has nothing to do with your brain, but if you used to calculate random numbers then I'm sure you will be crazy sooner/later because of the numbers.

There had been an argument about his stuff.  Actually gambling is a game of chance and luck has nothing to do with it.  When you said of chance, it deals with probability numbers or percentage that on how frequent that result will occur and that is math.  So basically it does involve mathematical calculations.

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December 11, 2016, 02:59:42 PM
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i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

Best answer so far LOL
Gambling is not a math no matter how smart you are to calculate numbers, it wont change the result. It has nothing to do with your brain, but if you used to calculate random numbers then I'm sure you will be crazy sooner/later because of the numbers.

There had been an argument about his stuff.  Actually gambling is a game of chance and luck has nothing to do with it.  When you said of chance, it deals with probability numbers or percentage that on how frequent that result will occur and that is math.  So basically it does involve mathematical calculations.
That's a more accurate definition, I cannot even believe other people are thinking it's primarily base on luck. It's definitely base on chance and what we know which is real is that our chances is lower compared to the gambling house and that pretty obvious since the gambling industry is very profitable while most of the gamblers loses and some even destroy their lives because of gambling.

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December 11, 2016, 03:07:11 PM
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i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

Best answer so far LOL
Gambling is not a math no matter how smart you are to calculate numbers, it wont change the result. It has nothing to do with your brain, but if you used to calculate random numbers then I'm sure you will be crazy sooner/later because of the numbers.

There had been an argument about his stuff.  Actually gambling is a game of chance and luck has nothing to do with it.  When you said of chance, it deals with probability numbers or percentage that on how frequent that result will occur and that is math.  So basically it does involve mathematical calculations.
That's a more accurate definition, I cannot even believe other people are thinking it's primarily base on luck. It's definitely base on chance and what we know which is real is that our chances is lower compared to the gambling house and that pretty obvious since the gambling industry is very profitable while most of the gamblers loses and some even destroy their lives because of gambling.
that's right if house only relied from their luck i guess no one will put such kind of a business as we know that system has been created to have big edge against the gamblers one thing is for sure its hard to win against it even luck is on your way if you dont know how to play with it correctly and manage it in your edge.

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December 11, 2016, 03:51:43 PM
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Gambling is luck. Yes, using a good strategy may increase your chances of winning but if only luck is on your side. Even skill based gambling like poker require some luck.

That's true, even how good you are in gambling and how many strategies you got there still you need to have luck in able to win.

And even those people who are already in gambling industry for so many years, still they are hoping for luck to come to them.

So, I really do believe that when we win, it is because we are lucky.

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December 11, 2016, 05:04:53 PM
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Indeed I am talking about a situation where great and factual prediction in sports betting failed because of the chance that this thing (bad beat and upset win/victory) occurs. 

To define it clearly

Code:
Upset Victory
An upset occurs in a competition, frequently in electoral politics or sports, when the party popularly expected to win (the favorite),
 is defeated by an underdog whom the majority expects to lose, defying the conventional wisdom.
 The underdog then becomes a giant-killer.
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upset

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bad beat
In poker, bad beat is a subjective term for a hand in which a player with what appear to be strong cards nevertheless loses.
It most often occurs where one player bets the clearly stronger hand and their opponent makes a poor call that eventually
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source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_beat



Ok, an example of that was the current situation right now of the NBA gsw to be specific losing the underdog teams. While on the bad beat that came from a subjective term of poker.

Now lets go back to luck's definition whether the upset victory or bad beat occurs (to what have you said that this situation could prove that the luck in gambling could not be defined. How could we say that a person/team is lucky? Luck AFAIK occurs always at the end of the certain game so basically those situation are all predictions(and the reason why you think that luck could not be defined). Luck do matters to every result,as i have said the person can't say that he is lucky unless he got the result that he desires or more
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Last edit: December 14, 2016, 12:23:57 AM by The_Dark_Knight
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Most gambling games are games of chance like dice game and roulette... there is no skill involved. The most difficult skill is to walk away from the game when you're winning
Personally I think is a lot harder to walk away when you are losing because you keep thinking in the money you lost in the session unlike when you are winning because you know you can walk away any time and still be on profit.

That's why when you go to gambling don't go with the mindset of making money. But go there to enjoy your free time and think that you will spend some small fixed amount for your fun activity. If you win then it is profit and if you lose then think that you had some fun with small amount.
That is what I do when I go to a casino, I only carry the money I'm willing to lose that night and nothing more, I don't carry credit cards or valuables of any kind to not give room to temptation.
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December 13, 2016, 01:40:31 AM
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Gambling is luck. Yes, using a good strategy may increase your chances of winning but if only luck is on your side. Even skill based gambling like poker require some luck.

What you said is correct. Even in skill based game, we need the luck to win any bet because we can't predict more accurately always just based on our experience. Sometimes some of the matches are fixed, and results may go wrong, and in such situations, we need the luck to win our bets.
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December 13, 2016, 01:56:05 AM
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i dont believe it , in gambling the only test your brain to calculate random numbers

really? why you are so sure about this? do you get much of winning with your play? because i only believe that win in the gambling is depending in our luck, beside that we can only loss. no matter how good your strategy, your calculation but as long as you don't have a luck, then its impossible you can get win. if your calculation work, then your luck should be work too.

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December 13, 2016, 02:00:04 AM
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Yes I think its really depending on the luck you are having, gambling is something that is really depending on it, without luck you will also not win without any doubts people!!
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