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April 07, 2017, 03:29:07 PM
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I don't think that bitcoin is a religion. Because religion deceives people. Bitcoin is not lying. If he is what he is.
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April 07, 2017, 07:51:40 PM
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I would not agree that Bitcoin is a religion, because for something to be a religion you need something that you believe in to, like higher force or something. And Bitcoin is non of that. Bitcoin is made by humans, so it can't be more than human product. It is maintained by humans and used by they also. There is nothing supernatural about bitcoin that can be worshiped as God or something. That is my opinion at least.
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April 07, 2017, 07:57:56 PM
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Bitcoin in my opinion is the currency of the future. To religion it has nothing unless of course you are not God. But if so, then you are a heathen and worshiped many gods. Currency in the world a lot.
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April 08, 2017, 04:52:54 AM
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LOL. bitcoin is far my religion. Satoshi is not supernatural being. Although Satoshi remained to be a mystery, he doesn't qualify to be a or possess any supernatural character. We may have followed what he has started and uses it today but it doesn't mean he is a so called "God".  Even our belief on the scaling issue is different and there is no universal consensus prove that bitcoin is not a religion. As I said before, we just have to enjoy what he has started which is bitcoin and use it to what purpose it has to served us.

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April 17, 2017, 04:29:21 PM
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Religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and worldviews that connect people to the order / command of life. Many religions have narrations, symbols and sacred histories intended to explain the meaning of life and / or explain the origin Life or the universe. From their beliefs about the cosmos and human nature, people acquire the morality, ethics, religious law or preferred lifestyle. According to some estimates, there are about 4,200 religions in the world.
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April 17, 2017, 08:43:06 PM
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Probably not legally... On other hand it seems to be kinda big for some people here...

So, I wouldn't think it would pass in any court anywhere.

Even if I feel that some people believe in it bit too much...
We actually have thousands of extremely strange religions, such as Flying Spaghetti Monster ( or something, lol ) or even more weird beliefs.

It is not possible for me to not agree with the part that some people believe in bitcoin domination too hard, we really have many people on this forum saying that bitcoin may destroy banks, and replace the fiat currency all over the world even in 3-4 years, which makes me laugh like a maniac, I cannot even understand how can you believe in such a nonsense?

For me, religion is something you shouldn't talk about, because every human being has right to believe in everything he wants, so I dont really care about it, I prefer to stay as a atheist.

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April 17, 2017, 10:46:29 PM
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Bitcoin is not a religion. Every religion is built on deception and belief in non-existent. Bitcoin is quite real. Even if for someone money is a religion that is very bad. Any money is evil when you are a slave to them.
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April 18, 2017, 06:35:56 AM
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7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individual’s eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html

No. Doesn't have a supernatural element (you can jokingly place Satoshi here), or a sacred/profane division. Lacks many other characteristics of a religion is well.

It could be defined as a social movement, however.

 Yeah, I agree with you, I also see it as a social movement and the life of many people practically revolves around Bitcoin.
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April 18, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
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Bitcoin is not a religion! It is a crypto currencies. Fiats money like dollar has been existing for long and there have never a time there are terms religion. Bitcoin is decentralized crypto currencies and is not issue by government or back up by government laws but by bitcoiners. We should not called thing names there are not.
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April 18, 2017, 09:36:03 AM
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Yes, and this religion has their god - mathematics Cheesy
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April 18, 2017, 10:15:58 AM
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in world of business and work, we can consider bitcoin as a religion, which is to put it on worldly desires and bodily needs. Many people who live in urban areas and considers hedonist is the only way to satisfy. If we want to take it seriously, then you are one of the Saxon hedonism, it is good to develop a great interest in this business.


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April 18, 2017, 10:19:07 AM
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so dollars and other currency can be a religion too? well for me its not we are just here because we really seen good potentials coming out from this system and with the way we gain profits its became popular for most investors.

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April 18, 2017, 04:55:03 PM
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It is the same as with the money, because I would not hesitate to call bitcoin as a money. It is just in a different fashion.
The thing is that money can also be a religion, and in many "consumer" communities, it indeed is.
Everything is around the cash, because cash runs the world. People do everything to get it, they doesnt care if they have to do bad things for that.

Not many people will have any remorse to take dirty pile of cash, it is obvious that they dont care if it will give them a good, wealthy life am I right?

Yes, in my opinion bitcoin might be a religion for someone.
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April 18, 2017, 08:42:04 PM
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Let's be honest, it does have all the makings of a religion, let me just go through the list:

. Mysterious creator that has suddenly vanished off the face of the Earth or doesn't exist  - Check

. Celebrities are endorsing it to give it more legitimacy - Check

. Multiple sects splitting off from the main beliefs because they disagree with them or want to form their own cult instead - Check

. Lots and lots of conspiracy theories surrounding it - Check

. Persecution from government organisations that fear it - Check

. Crazy evangelical fringe believers who run around and try to harass people into following it - Check

. Extremely negative mass media attention - Check

Yep, I'd say we're a religion now Cheesy
hahaha LOL yeah it seems like we are a religion if we are going to put it in your point of view,
But I think Bitcoin is not really a religion.

 
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April 27, 2017, 08:47:22 PM
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Bitcoin is not a religion, as we all know it is connected into a technology where many business are getting in touch with it because of the system it has when it comes to usage and features of bitcoin. Which is very far to religion belief Wink
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April 27, 2017, 11:53:04 PM
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I don't think that money is a religion. The worship of money can end very badly. I think bitcoin is a symbol of change and hope for a better life. I hope bitcoin will free us from the power of our rulers.
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April 28, 2017, 12:35:59 AM
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When I saw this, I got to thinking, is MONEY a religion? I don't think so. Why should you worship something that is just paper with an agreed upon value? I think that's what destroys us as a person, not being able to fully be capable of what to do in our own ways. We get greedy so much that we forget that we shouldn't be like that.

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April 28, 2017, 01:03:27 AM
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When I saw this, I got to thinking, is MONEY a religion? I don't think so. Why should you worship something that is just paper with an agreed upon value? I think that's what destroys us as a person, not being able to fully be capable of what to do in our own ways. We get greedy so much that we forget that we shouldn't be like that.
Yes , money is not a religion thats why " money is the root of all evil" , Bitcoins is only created with a digital currency system so how eventually it becomes religion .But to be as one alternative currency in the world can unite us. Bitcoins can never be a religion its just a state of mind.
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April 28, 2017, 01:10:33 AM
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7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individual’s eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html

In short, no. Its a question only confused atheist would ask.

Bitcoin is a technological innovation. As such it generates interest as vehicle for quick profit (such is the case of majority of members here), followed by EGO of earlier adopters. Those along with minority of technocrats present sometimes "fetishizes" this technology to the point of obssesion. But that doesnt make it religion. Fashion? Perhaps.

Same thing happened back in the day during dot.com boom, before that to personal computer boom, to firearms boom. Etc. etc.

All of these people above will one day move to the next big thing or just will get old  Wink

Now, organized religion is something entirely different as it is not based around material possesions or avalaible technical equipment. Religion dictates upon indvidual strict belief system, that molds him into part of a community, something greater, that endures time and conflicts.

Bitcoin for the time being can complement religion XY as useful tool and vice versa. But those two are and will be separate things as they appeal to different parts of human psyche.
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7.25.3.6.5  (02-23-1999)
Religious Belief Defined

    The term "religious" as used in IRC 501(c)(3) is not subject to precise definition. The leading interpretation of the term was made by the Supreme Court in United States v. Seeger, 380 U.S. 163 (1965), in which the Court interpreted the phrase "religious training and belief" as used in the Universal Military Training and Service Act, 50 U.S.C. section 456 (j), in determining an individual’s eligibility for exemption from military service on religious grounds. The Court formulated the following definition: "A sincere and meaningful belief which occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to that filled by the God of those admittedly qualifying for the exemption comes within the statutory definition."

    The Court elaborated upon the Seeger definition in Welsh v. United States, 398 U.S. 33 (1970), stating that "f an individual deeply and sincerely holds beliefs that are purely ethical or moral in source and content but that nevertheless impose upon him a duty of conscience to refrain from participating in any war at any time, those beliefs certainly occupy in the life of that individual a place parallel to that filled by... God in the lives of traditionally religious persons." Thus, religious beliefs include many beliefs (for example, Taoism, Buddhism, and Secular Humanism) that do not posit the existence of a Supreme Being in the conventional sense.


http://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-003.html

No. Doesn't have a supernatural element (you can jokingly place Satoshi here), or a sacred/profane division. Lacks many other characteristics of a religion is well.

It could be defined as a social movement, however.
Though it is not required having a supreme being known as God in the definition of "religious" and the example given to those still has its traditions like not eating something like that and to those who believe they worship a God. Believing and worshipping are words with different meaning. It does not mean that a lot of people believe in something let's say Bitcoin is still not considered as religion. These Bitcoin users are just hoping and looking forward of the nice future of Bitcoin ahead which they will benefit greatly from it.

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