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There are actually some people who are successful in trading and also you do failed to credit that there also traders who failed. With that being said, we can tell that trading is not for everyone and since it's very unpredictable you have to be skilled enough to read the market movement to make the right prediction and be profitable. I think that "unpredictable" is perhaps a slightly wrong term.... technically, given enough data and enough "processing power" so to speak, the human brain could predict every moment in the market, it is controlled by people, that while they may seem illogical, do follow a course of action that could be predicted. By the same token, a smart enough human could predict exactly where a dropped marble would end up based on the myriad of physics vectors in the room. it is predictable, just beyond our scope I think it is impossible to do with whatever "processing power" you might have Nassim Taleb described this very well in his book on Black Swans. In short, with ever increasing processing power you will be unsuccessfully analyzing small changes that will cause dramatic effects (see Butterfly Effect). I could also add that even if you could somehow address that issue, purely hypothetically, you still wouldn't be able to completely analyze your own impact on the market (since it is assumed that you will be actively participating in it yourself)
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December 09, 2016, 02:52:54 PM |
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Well, I partly agree with that statement but that is precisely the big reason why we have a very big business trading...the volatility of the market can be a factor why a trader will earn money and of course lose money on the other side of the fence. Trading is not for everybody though anybody can be a trader with the help of the internet and new technologies.
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December 09, 2016, 03:16:22 PM |
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Well, I partly agree with that statement but that is precisely the big reason why we have a very big business trading...the volatility of the market can be a factor why a trader will earn money and of course lose money on the other side of the fence. Trading is not for everybody though anybody can be a trader with the help of the internet and new technologies.
all is indeed an option. we are free to choose us. to be a trader or not it is the best choice. however I think that the trader was a very nice job. This is a job to observe price movements up and down an investment.
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December 09, 2016, 03:53:25 PM |
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Well, I partly agree with that statement but that is precisely the big reason why we have a very big business trading...the volatility of the market can be a factor why a trader will earn money and of course lose money on the other side of the fence. Trading is not for everybody though anybody can be a trader with the help of the internet and new technologies.
Well I agree that trading is not for everybody though everbody can "trade". The fact that not everyone knows how to make a successful trade is beneficial to those who knows how. Reason is that, this people who does not know how to trade will lose money while those who know how to trade can just catch those money lose by newbie traders. It is alway an equilibrium, someone lose and someon win. So people who are veterans in this industry always invites newbie and make it so easy so that whenever this new comer took the bait, it is late for them to noticed that trading is not for them.
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December 09, 2016, 04:15:12 PM |
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Well, I partly agree with that statement but that is precisely the big reason why we have a very big business trading...the volatility of the market can be a factor why a trader will earn money and of course lose money on the other side of the fence. Trading is not for everybody though anybody can be a trader with the help of the internet and new technologies.
Well I agree that trading is not for everybody though everbody can "trade". The fact that not everyone knows how to make a successful trade is beneficial to those who knows how. Reason is that, this people who does not know how to trade will lose money while those who know how to trade can just catch those money lose by newbie traders. It is alway an equilibrium, someone lose and someon win. So people who are veterans in this industry always invites newbie and make it so easy so that whenever this new comer took the bait, it is late for them to noticed that trading is not for them. You are right on some points but not actually those newbie traders are just food for veteran traders. Its never too late to engage into trading since it will exist for longer periods of time as long there are currencies that are being trade off.Theres always does a equilibrium on most things. Trading is really an unpredictable job because of the endless tug of war of both sellers and buyers.
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December 10, 2016, 06:14:22 AM |
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trading is a very challenging job and also bring in huge profits. trading the same as an ordinary job. we must focus and continue to work with passion to get the desired results. trading is a normal job. we could be happy with being a traders.
right ... with the trade we can get what we want, but we have to understand also the risk of the trade itself Yes that is why we must do cut lost because of risk losing bitcoin and keeps low losing in trading activity, But the amount of lost must low than amount of profit. If we can do it, although trading is high risk our bitcoins will growing up and we can get what we want, unfortunately it is hard to doing, the traders needs practice until get profit from trading.
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December 10, 2016, 06:28:46 AM |
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Well, I partly agree with that statement but that is precisely the big reason why we have a very big business trading...the volatility of the market can be a factor why a trader will earn money and of course lose money on the other side of the fence. Trading is not for everybody though anybody can be a trader with the help of the internet and new technologies.
all is indeed an option. we are free to choose us. to be a trader or not it is the best choice. however I think that the trader was a very nice job. This is a job to observe price movements up and down an investment. Was? . Do you mean trading isn't a nice job now? . It's not as simple like you said , checking time by time the price movements and sell it on the right time for gain the profit there are something "surprise"might be happened on the trading market like bot coming up or panic sell.
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December 10, 2016, 10:46:43 PM |
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The hard part is certainly having the right timing, to buy at the lowest possible price, and sell at the best rates. This requires knowledge, so it's necessary to put some effort into it. Experience also helps... after a good time trading it is possible to change the perception of things and make better trades.
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December 10, 2016, 11:54:09 PM |
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The hard part is certainly having the right timing, to buy at the lowest possible price, and sell at the best rates. This requires knowledge, so it's necessary to put some effort into it. Experience also helps... after a good time trading it is possible to change the perception of things and make better trades.
To be honest, I think that the best contributing factor to profitable trading is not perfect timing, deep knowledge, vast experience and all such things but rather simple and straightforward growth in price, so you can safely buy a pile of bitcoins and then start selling them in small portions till you eventually run out of coins... Then rinse, repeat
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December 11, 2016, 06:19:25 PM |
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Well, I partly agree with that statement but that is precisely the big reason why we have a very big business trading...the volatility of the market can be a factor why a trader will earn money and of course lose money on the other side of the fence. Trading is not for everybody though anybody can be a trader with the help of the internet and new technologies.
all is indeed an option. we are free to choose us. to be a trader or not it is the best choice. however I think that the trader was a very nice job. This is a job to observe price movements up and down an investment. Was? . Do you mean trading isn't a nice job now? . It's not as simple like you said , checking time by time the price movements and sell it on the right time for gain the profit there are something "surprise"might be happened on the trading market like bot coming up or panic sell. Yes, precisely, trading is not that easy money making job, you need your luck, knowledge and skill on making it into trading now since there are many speculation, just be wise and be tricky on how you choose things.
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December 11, 2016, 06:55:30 PM |
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the stock market is unpredictable, that's true! For me the most important thing during the day are my charts and stock market news. In my home I have a room with 10 flat-screen TV to follow my charts. I follow everything closely and knows when the right time has come to buy or sell. It is unpredictable but if you use the right analys you avoid surprises!
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December 11, 2016, 09:56:00 PM |
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The hard part is certainly having the right timing, to buy at the lowest possible price, and sell at the best rates. This requires knowledge, so it's necessary to put some effort into it. Experience also helps... after a good time trading it is possible to change the perception of things and make better trades.
To be honest, I think that the best contributing factor to profitable trading is not perfect timing, deep knowledge, vast experience and all such things but rather simple and straightforward growth in price, so you can safely buy a pile of bitcoins and then start selling them in small portions till you eventually run out of coins... Then rinse, repeat But if a time come when the price do not rise continuously then the traders need to take advantage of the fluctuations in the price of assets especially in bitcoin usually the fluctuations are more obvious in bitcoin and a well experienced trader can easily earn a good profit in the time of somewhat stability.
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December 12, 2016, 12:37:32 AM |
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The hard part is certainly having the right timing, to buy at the lowest possible price, and sell at the best rates. This requires knowledge, so it's necessary to put some effort into it. Experience also helps... after a good time trading it is possible to change the perception of things and make better trades.
therefore we must continue to noticed price movements in different bitcoin exchange. with it we will be helped and could see that the price of bitcoin increase or decrease. see from experience that never was too old holding bitcoin in the wallet.
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December 12, 2016, 03:23:37 AM |
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The hard part is certainly having the right timing, to buy at the lowest possible price, and sell at the best rates. This requires knowledge, so it's necessary to put some effort into it. Experience also helps... after a good time trading it is possible to change the perception of things and make better trades.
therefore we must continue to noticed price movements in different bitcoin exchange. with it we will be helped and could see that the price of bitcoin increase or decrease. see from experience that never was too old holding bitcoin in the wallet. The price is a good buy if you consider doing it, why would you expect to see a lower price when we can hold it and wait for the future to increase more. What if the price will not drop anymore?
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December 17, 2016, 05:47:29 AM |
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There are actually some people who are successful in trading and also you do failed to credit that there also traders who failed. With that being said, we can tell that trading is not for everyone and since it's very unpredictable you have to be skilled enough to read the market movement to make the right prediction and be profitable. I think that "unpredictable" is perhaps a slightly wrong term.... technically, given enough data and enough "processing power" so to speak, the human brain could predict every moment in the market, it is controlled by people, that while they may seem illogical, do follow a course of action that could be predicted. By the same token, a smart enough human could predict exactly where a dropped marble would end up based on the myriad of physics vectors in the room. it is predictable, just beyond our scope I think it is impossible to do with whatever "processing power" you might have Nassim Taleb described this very well in his book on Black Swans. In short, with ever increasing processing power you will be unsuccessfully analyzing small changes that will cause dramatic effects (see Butterfly Effect). I could also add that even if you could somehow address that issue, purely hypothetically, you still wouldn't be able to completely analyze your own impact on the market (since it is assumed that you will be actively participating in it yourself) it's a trap of a statement, nothing is impossible given enough processing power because there is absolutely nothing random
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December 17, 2016, 06:07:17 AM |
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Obviously, Method, money and mind are important things that you need. Also in my opinion, you should have a strategy to face the fluctuations of bitcoin too. Buy when the price is low and sell it when the price is growing up. The unpredictable of trading enforcers you to have B plan if the price suddenly down and looking for the news of bitcoins world update.
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December 17, 2016, 08:56:08 AM |
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There are actually some people who are successful in trading and also you do failed to credit that there also traders who failed. With that being said, we can tell that trading is not for everyone and since it's very unpredictable you have to be skilled enough to read the market movement to make the right prediction and be profitable. I think that "unpredictable" is perhaps a slightly wrong term.... technically, given enough data and enough "processing power" so to speak, the human brain could predict every moment in the market, it is controlled by people, that while they may seem illogical, do follow a course of action that could be predicted. By the same token, a smart enough human could predict exactly where a dropped marble would end up based on the myriad of physics vectors in the room. it is predictable, just beyond our scope I think it is impossible to do with whatever "processing power" you might have Nassim Taleb described this very well in his book on Black Swans. In short, with ever increasing processing power you will be unsuccessfully analyzing small changes that will cause dramatic effects (see Butterfly Effect). I could also add that even if you could somehow address that issue, purely hypothetically, you still wouldn't be able to completely analyze your own impact on the market (since it is assumed that you will be actively participating in it yourself) it's a trap of a statement, nothing is impossible given enough processing power because there is absolutely nothing random You obviously miss the whole point This has nothing to do with whether everything is random, something is random, or nothing is random at all. Randomness or degree thereof is irrelevant since you are part of the causal chain, and even if you had an infinite processing power, you would still be part of this causal chain. Ultimately, you will have to take into account the effects of your own calculations propagating through the world, and then you get instantly stuck in an infinite recursion. In other words, with your infinite processing power, you will face difficulties of higher orders, i.e. more infinite than the infinity of the processing power you might ever have. You can't escape from this while you are part of the system or your actions, however slight, affect it
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lakisis
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December 17, 2016, 08:29:48 PM |
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trading is a very challenging job and also bring in huge profits. trading the same as an ordinary job. we must focus and continue to work with passion to get the desired results. trading is a normal job. we could be happy with being a traders.
yeah trading is really challenging job and there is all people trying to bring a huge profit and i think you should need a good knowledge about trading and first of all you will focus on that which currency is strong and secure than we can trade with it.
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December 18, 2016, 04:21:53 AM |
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The hard part is certainly having the right timing, to buy at the lowest possible price, and sell at the best rates. This requires knowledge, so it's necessary to put some effort into it. Experience also helps... after a good time trading it is possible to change the perception of things and make better trades.
therefore we must continue to noticed price movements in different bitcoin exchange. with it we will be helped and could see that the price of bitcoin increase or decrease. see from experience that never was too old holding bitcoin in the wallet. Updating the price every day could help you to know the price movement like you can know if it is stable on the amount now or not. This way you cam make better decsion in buying / selling.
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December 18, 2016, 04:35:35 AM |
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Updating the price every day could help you to know the price movement like you can know if it is stable on the amount now or not. This way you cam make better decsion in buying / selling.
That is correct, as long as you monitor from day to day, until you know the price movement that is the way you can make a wise decision in making your trade. Also if you want to to the study, there people whom you can trust especially on stock trading, there are stock brokers that will do study for you
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