UFC 202: Diaz vs McGregor 2 Info and Prediction Thread

[lemipawa]

Do you know why McGregor wants to fight at 170 pounds and not at 155 pounds ,which is Nate Diaz's natural weight class, because if at all if he losses again, Mcgregor and the UFC can make excuses about how brave he was to take a fight two weight classes above his and so on, and during all of his promos they are implicating that he is facing someone way above his weight class and so on.hope to see more excuses to come .i expect a tough match this time around.and if Mcgregor doesnt gass out i expect a long fight

Very nice analysis, weight class is indeed a factor in every fight, it might benefit both or just 1 fighter. Take for example Senator Manny Pacquiao, I love this guy and I voted for him but in terms of boxing, haters calls him  king of catch weight because he fights those known fighters below their weight class it's like taking away something from them. For Conor and Diaz, Diaz looks comfortable with his weight class now and he did gained some muscle mass if you notice him this past few weeks but we don't know how he will perform with that weight, speed maybe affected.

[pereira4]

I think McGregor is obviously on steroids. The guy is looking really buff lately and at a low bodyfat. Im not sure if that is possible to achieve naturally. I guess 170 for 5'9'' is possible if you have good genetics, but then again who isn't in steroids nowadays? maybe Nate Diaz is one of the few natural guys or at least he looks like a natural.

[rampagejackson]

I think McGregor is obviously on steroids.

This is what potentially makes things even more lopsided as far as fairness goes.

If you're on St Pierre, Jones or McGregor money you can afford the latest fancy cheating methods, and have the money for disguising what you're doing also.


If you're on $8k to show and $8k to win you can only afford the steroids on sale down the local gym.

[eaLiTy]

I think McGregor is obviously on steroids.

This is what potentially makes things even more lopsided as far as fairness goes.

If you're on St Pierre, Jones or McGregor money you can afford the latest fancy cheating methods, and have the money for disguising what you're doing also.


If you're on $8k to show and $8k to win you can only afford the steroids on sale down the local gym.

With the latest random testing and stuff you simply cant escape using PED's .Even if you dont take things you might get popped if you are taking any medication or certain contaminated food products can even raise the eyes. You simply cant escape them now a days, Drug testing has come a long way in the past five years and they are constantly adding new banned items  daily and if an athlete does not have a good management system to monitor all these, then he might be in trouble like the one's that happened with Yoel Romero, Jon Jones is popped with Estrogen Blockers, that is not even a PED, but it is known that people use Estrogen blockers when they are in a PED cycle ,to restart your body cycle.

Having said that i dont thing Mcgregor uses PED's ,it has being more than 6 months to build a body frame that is more than enough time. The problem Mcgregor has to face now is when he try to come back to 145 pounds with all these mass increase,it will definitely be a big hurdle. I seriously doubt he will come down to 145 pounds anytime soon.

[tokeweed]

McGregor is just a freak athlete, that's why he looks so ripped.  I don't think he's on PED's.  That's just what Diaz fans are saying because it's looking more and more like a win for McGregor.

Anyway here are two YouTube channels containing videos of each fighters' "Road to the Octagon" type videos.

For McGregor:  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC789h3eqw0H1HqGmIsI26OA/videos

For Diaz:  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtbmC1qIbeRc5OZD4DGSVfw/videos

Enjoy!

[Rubberduckie]

I think McGregor is obviously on steroids. The guy is looking really buff lately and at a low bodyfat. Im not sure if that is possible to achieve naturally. I guess 170 for 5'9'' is possible if you have good genetics, but then again who isn't in steroids nowadays? maybe Nate Diaz is one of the few natural guys or at least he looks like a natural.

naw they drug test.

Look what just happened with a couple guy failing drug tests and it makes the
UFC look like a joke. They are really cracking down on it and jones may be banned
for life. He is just focused as hell imo.

[eaLiTy]

I think McGregor is obviously on steroids. The guy is looking really buff lately and at a low bodyfat. Im not sure if that is possible to achieve naturally. I guess 170 for 5'9'' is possible if you have good genetics, but then again who isn't in steroids nowadays? maybe Nate Diaz is one of the few natural guys or at least he looks like a natural.

naw they drug test.

Look what just happened with a couple guy failing drug tests and it makes the
UFC look like a joke. They are really cracking down on it and jones may be banned
for life. He is just focused as hell imo.

how can one ban an athlete for life for finding Estrogen blockers,if his team could find out how that came into his system he will get a leverage ,on normal circumstances you would get a 2 year ban from competition, if they could prove other wise the ban period will be less. From what i am hearing Jones team found out how the Estrogen blockers came into his system and they are waiting to reveal the details ,because the hearing is still pending.

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[LFC_Bitcoin]

So excited for this now, I've been desperate for this date to hurry up. I really want Conor to avsnge the defeat he suffered vs Nate in their 1st fight.

Conor will be much better prepared this time.

[pereira4]

I think McGregor is obviously on steroids.

This is what potentially makes things even more lopsided as far as fairness goes.

If you're on St Pierre, Jones or McGregor money you can afford the latest fancy cheating methods, and have the money for disguising what you're doing also.


If you're on $8k to show and $8k to win you can only afford the steroids on sale down the local gym.

Well Jones got caugh several times now and he has been kicked out of the UFC for at least 2 years, pretty much ruined his career. Brock Lesnar also got caught.. so they dont fuck around.

[Rubberduckie]

I think I may actually pass on this fight now.

Dana White was on cowherd and said that if connor loses at 170 part
of the reason he did that is because he gets to retain his title and just
go back to 145 and defend it.

I was thinking there was a little more on the line for McGregor but because
he is going up in class it's almost like a built in excuse. I was going to back
McGregor but think I gotta pass now.

[tokeweed]

I think McGregor himself thinks he has more on the line in this fight than any title fight at FW.  This is a money fight for him and his reputation is on the line.  His reputation = his ability to sell fights.  And for the long term that is way more important for him than any belt.  Conor is also a business man if you noticed, and also an entertainer.  Although the belt is good for his publicity gimmicks he can be more than a champion just by being himself.  Like this second fight vs Diaz, it's not a title fight but just because McGregor is in it, we all want to watch it.  So it's really important that he wins and keeps his reputation and notoriety intact. 

This fight is a make or break for Connor.  If he loses here, his rating and ability to sell fights go down.  He does NOT want that happening.  

I can see Diaz taking a dive in this fight so that it will be a trilogy.  That means more money for him.  

[rampagejackson]

I can see Diaz taking a dive in this fight so that it will be a trilogy.  That means more money for him.  

There is no way he throws the fight!!

Even if McGregor wins there won't be a 3rd fight right away, too much on the line with title fights etc so he has no choice but to go defend.

if Diaz beats McGregor again he can use this fame to get a title shot at 170 or 155.... thats by far his better option.  Plus do you really see him throwing a fight anyway? He'd never do it.

[BicolIsarog]

It's nice to see a little change of perspective by showcasing Chris Avila. Even though 202 is all about nate and conor, there's nothing left to say anymore about that. Nate doesn't seem like a selfish person, he'll do what he's got to do to get his and bring it back to his team.

[Rubberduckie]

found an amazing person to follow on twitter and has a podcast also

Mr. Primetime
@MMAforMoney


He breaks down all the fights from a inside fighters perspective. If you want
to get some great info I suggest listening to it. They go over the whole card.

[tokeweed]

I can see Diaz taking a dive in this fight so that it will be a trilogy.  That means more money for him.  

There is no way he throws the fight!!

I know but I can see it happening.  Ok, more like speculate than see.  I'm not saying Diaz will definitely take a dive.  No.

Even if McGregor wins there won't be a 3rd fight right away, too much on the line with title fights etc so he has no choice but to go defend.

It doesn't have to be McGregor vs Diaz 3 right away after the second fight.  I will be each guy doing their own thing for a while building up for the third fight.  McGregor will be in a favorable spot because even if he loses the FW title, he'll still have the big money fight with Diaz.

if Diaz beats McGregor again he can use this fame to get a title shot at 170 or 155.... thats by far his better option.  Plus do you really see him throwing a fight anyway? He'd never do it.

No he won't.  But the odds are good that McGregor can beat him this time.  At least that's what I think.

[Cazkys]

RECENTLY NEWS! Intensifying   I love the intensity of watching this on Saturday live @ my desktop.

"Nate Diaz says Conor McGregor goes to sleep at night and remembers what happened the last time they fought"
LINK: http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/nate-diaz-mocks-conor-mcgregors-prediction-for-their-rematch-at-ufc-202-081716

"Conor McGregor hurls bottles and cans at Nate Diaz and his team as complete CHAOS breaks out at the UFC 202 Press Conference"
VIDEO LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blViGqu3ejc

"Dana White says no matter what happens in the rematch with Nate Diaz at UFC 202, Conor McGregor will fight Jose Aldo Junior next"
LINK: http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/dana-white-win-lose-or-draw-conor-mcgregor-will-defend-his-title-after-ufc-202-081716

"With the Conor McGregor-Nate Diaz rematch almost here, a look in photos back at the encounter that shook up the UFC world"
LINK: http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/ufc-202-conor-mcgregor-nate-diaz-first-fight-relived-rematch-ufc-196-081716

[bbc.reporter]

I am now so very excited to watch the rematch! Now we all see that Nate has agitated Conor and Conor is very affected by it. Nate has the upper hand here and he will win this fight. Conor looks very annoyed like he already knows that he will lose.

[Cazkys]

I can see Diaz taking a dive in this fight so that it will be a trilogy.  That means more money for him.  

There is no way he throws the fight!!

Even if McGregor wins there won't be a 3rd fight right away, too much on the line with title fights etc so he has no choice but to go defend.

if Diaz beats McGregor again he can use this fame to get a title shot at 170 or 155.... thats by far his better option.  Plus do you really see him throwing a fight anyway? He'd never do it.

So if Nate Diaz will throw the fight obviously a unanimous by Conor McCregor, a boring match indeed. But I don't think so there will be a throw in their match.

I am now so very excited to watch the rematch! Now we all see that Nate has agitated Conor and Conor is very affected by it. Nate has the upper hand here and he will win this fight. Conor looks very annoyed like he already knows that he will lose.

Remember what he did to Jose Aldo? Hahaha, now the table turned to him, while Nate Diaz just trolling around and Conor got mad to his actions. 3 Days to go before the fight I can't wait to watch the fight.

[pereira4]

I think McGregor himself thinks he has more on the line in this fight than any title fight at FW.  This is a money fight for him and his reputation is on the line.  His reputation = his ability to sell fights.  And for the long term that is way more important for him than any belt.  Conor is also a business man if you noticed, and also an entertainer.  Although the belt is good for his publicity gimmicks he can be more than a champion just by being himself.  Like this second fight vs Diaz, it's not a title fight but just because McGregor is in it, we all want to watch it.  So it's really important that he wins and keeps his reputation and notoriety intact. 

This fight is a make or break for Connor.  If he loses here, his rating and ability to sell fights go down.  He does NOT want that happening.  

I can see Diaz taking a dive in this fight so that it will be a trilogy.  That means more money for him.  

Thati s why I think McGregor is not going to take big risks. Of course he will try to go for the KO but if he doesnt see a clear opportunity he will try to push the match towards UD and hope for the best. Getting KO two times by the same guy would ruin his career.