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March 29, 2013, 09:14:38 PM |
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There is something i didn't understand in this thread... Why everybody talks about scam ? What is scammy here ? I don't saw author to force someone to give him his money or something... He said when hardware is ready you can pay and get it so lets just wait some time and see... I think scam is when you pay someone and get nothing...
I also had thoughts about developing ASIC, but still cannot get enough funds to start... So if i have posted thread as an announce i will become scammer ?!?!? I think i didn't get it...
If you post your full contact information, personal name, company your representing, and your previous expertise recarding ASIC development I don't see why you would be categorised as a scammer. Be open about the project and make sure to post plenty of images and videos once you actually do something on the product, even if it's only early prototype testing, all solid info counts. If you have a company make it possible to visit you and see the development or testing process first hand. For some funny reason these scammer tagged people fail to provide the needed information to make them credible. For example this Galaxy guy could prove himself immediately by providing info about the foundry which is going to make those chips with 20nm process. After the foundry has confirmed that they do have an order of 10k bitcoin chips from this guy there would be no question about that. dude u just gave him the whole list what is it a scammer is to avoid by all posible means like josh_bfl dose so slimy style u wanna make u hate his guts i mean liek oscar nomination the week of april1 aka april 8 but since april 1 its a joke in itself it means sometimes in may if evrithing goes perfectly from now on yeah and this 1nm guy is super scam must be josh 1o yeard old kid or some for sure
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Phinnaeus Gage
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Fresh on the Bitcoin scene, with a recent track record of selling world coins via three eBay accounts under different names, and has gone by no less than six different names that I'm aware of. I did find five more on Facebook, but the proof isn't definitive with the exception of Google images linking one of his profiles using variants of Max.
For all practical purposes, his eBay accounts are spotless, and his coin businesses are viable, albeit why not just one? This fact alone does not qualify Max to oversee the building of ASIC-based Bitcoin mining rigs.
There have been complaints in the past pertaining to his other enterprises, thus should be considered when dealing with him. Of all the names he's used in the past, and currently, it's hard to figure out exactly who we're dealing with here. An investor(s) can easily make the mistake and past bitcoins to an entity that could easily disappear in plain site.
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March 30, 2013, 05:18:05 AM |
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(The reason I post updates here is because my investors do read this forum, but I would like to worn them that if you identify yourself be prepared to be trolled to tears.) Am I reading this correctly, or am I warned out and need to go to bed? Are the investors being threatened to remain silent about their identity? Did I miss the memo as to how a CEO should conduct themselves, especially one that's about to introduce a magnificent product to help secure Bitcoin?
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March 30, 2013, 06:42:46 AM |
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There is something i didn't understand in this thread... Why everybody talks about scam ? What is scammy here ? I don't saw author to force someone to give him his money or something... He said when hardware is ready you can pay and get it so lets just wait some time and see... I think scam is when you pay someone and get nothing...
I also had thoughts about developing ASIC, but still cannot get enough funds to start... So if i have posted thread as an announce i will become scammer ?!?!? I think i didn't get it...
Well, if you showed up with a stack of resumes from your organization that establishes a history of delivering ASIC designs, firmware implementations, board and system level hardware, and sales and marketing, I'd say very interesting. If you show up promising technology that no one but $1B/year companies will be able to purchase until at least 2015, I will call you a scammer.
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March 30, 2013, 07:13:47 AM |
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There is something i didn't understand in this thread... Why everybody talks about scam ? What is scammy here ? I don't saw author to force someone to give him his money or something... He said when hardware is ready you can pay and get it so lets just wait some time and see... I think scam is when you pay someone and get nothing...
I also had thoughts about developing ASIC, but still cannot get enough funds to start... So if i have posted thread as an announce i will become scammer ?!?!? I think i didn't get it...
The intention is clearly enough to be called scammer. Yes only newbies like you who havent done any research would think thats is just a simple announcement.
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Phinnaeus Gage
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March 30, 2013, 05:10:17 PM |
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There is something i didn't understand in this thread... Why everybody talks about scam ? What is scammy here ? I don't saw author to force someone to give him his money or something... He said when hardware is ready you can pay and get it so lets just wait some time and see... I think scam is when you pay someone and get nothing...
I also had thoughts about developing ASIC, but still cannot get enough funds to start... So if i have posted thread as an announce i will become scammer ?!?!? I think i didn't get it...
The intention is clearly enough to be called scammer. Yes only newbies like you who havent done any research would think thats is just a simple announcement. It's a complex announcement at that. Yes, yet another ASIC announcement. But this time I am a real person with the technology background and here is my LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/MaxAvroutskiASIC is due Fall/Winter 2013 What is the difference? Our initial plan is to sell 50% and run other 50% for our investors. The dude has a technology background proven by his self-penned LinkedIn page of which I've shown was recently altered considerably. Not only is ASIC due Fall/Winter 2013, they were manufactured before the advent of Bitcoin. Our initial plan is to sell 50% and run other 50% for our investors. The above quote is the genius part were no consumers get taken--only the investors, of which have been threatened. In essence, the sentence could be rewritten: Or plan is to not sell 50%, but run off with our investor's other 50%. Full Disclosures: Everything I have penned against Maxxy boy in this thread is truly not my position, for I am only relaying the words by some other entity of which I have signed an NDA to not disclose his/her name. ~Bruno K~
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March 31, 2013, 09:08:06 AM |
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Oh noes, it's sinking ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxnTqdEC.png&t=665&c=OzhMiwkWGH754w)
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March 31, 2013, 02:38:51 PM |
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Oh noes, it's sinking ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxnTqdEC.png&t=665&c=OzhMiwkWGH754w) Your signature is incorrect. BFL (Josh) has posted a video of a prototype hashing. Thanks for your concern about my signatures truthfulness. I hope there would be similar concern about BFLs ad campaign (order = preorder, hashrate and powerdraw is something else than advertized, delivery in 4-6 weeks, yeah) I would like to point out that if you base your argument on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C4bgho5JSI you must understand that even they said it's just a test workload and it's not doing any real hashing towards creating a block. But if you base your argument on this paste: bfgminer version 2.99.2 - Started: [2013-03-30 23:37:17] - [ 0 days 00:01:57 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 5s:17.85 avg:16.58 u:14.26 Gh/s | A:342 R:0 S:0 HW:0 U:179.6/m ST: 2 DW: 10 GW: 3 LW: 494 GF: 0 NB: 1 AS: 0 RF: 0 E: 2.08 Connected to 192.168.1.1 diff 8 with stratum as user test Block: ...ee2e8a72 #3123 Diff:153 Started: [23:37:17] Best share: 528 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit BFL 0: 45.0C | 17.83/17.52/14.58Gh/s | A:343 R:0 HW:0 U:180.16/m ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[2013-03-30 23:38:52] Stratum from pool 0 requested work update [2013-03-30 23:38:52] Accepted 0ecf365f BFL 0 Diff 17/1 [2013-03-30 23:38:53] Accepted a91d942c BFL 0 Diff 1/1 [2013-03-30 23:38:53] Accepted 15d55ee2 BFL 0 Diff 11/1 [2013-03-30 23:38:53] Accepted be2972c6 BFL 0 Diff 1/1 [2013-03-30 23:38:53] Accepted 9e87d2fd BFL 0 Diff 1/1 [2013-03-30 23:38:53] Accepted 7f854200 BFL 0 Diff 2/1 [2013-03-30 23:38:54] Accepted 03c5d641 BFL 0 Diff 67/8 [2013-03-30 23:39:08] Accepted 040aab96 BFL 0 Diff 63/8 [2013-03-30 23:39:09] Accepted 14997fe3 BFL 0 Diff 12/8 [2013-03-30 23:39:10] Accepted 123ded4b BFL 0 Diff 14/8 [2013-03-30 23:39:11] Accepted 0453e37f BFL 0 Diff 59/8 [2013-03-30 23:39:14] Accepted 06bd2321 BFL 0 Diff 37/8 You have to understand that it is quite easy to make one up out of thin air. Just like this one: bfgminer version 2.99.2 - Started: [2013-03-30 23:37:17] - [ 0 days 00:01:57 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 5s:170.85 avg:160.58 u:140.26 Gh/s | A:3420 R:0 S:0 HW:0 U:1790.6/m ST: 2 DW: 10 GW: 3 LW: 494 GF: 0 NB: 1 AS: 0 RF: 0 E: 2.08 Connected to mine.bitminter:8338 diff 9M with stratum as user BBQKorvASIC Block: ...ee2e8a72 #3123 Diff:153 Started: [23:37:17] Best share: 528 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit BBQKorvASIC 0: 65.0C | 170.83/170.52/140.58Gh/s | A:3430 R:0 HW:0 U:1800.16/m ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[2013-03-30 23:38:52] Stratum from pool 0 requested work update [2013-03-30 23:38:52] Accepted 0ecf365f BFL 0 Diff 17/1 [2013-03-30 23:38:53] Accepted a91d942c BFL 0 Diff 1/1 [2013-03-30 23:38:53] Accepted 15d55ee2 BFL 0 Diff 11/1 [2013-03-30 23:38:53] Accepted be2972c6 BFL 0 Diff 1/1 [2013-03-30 23:38:53] Accepted 9e87d2fd BFL 0 Diff 1/1 [2013-03-30 23:38:53] Accepted 7f854200 BFL 0 Diff 2/1 [2013-03-30 23:38:54] Accepted 03c5d641 BFL 0 Diff 67/8 [2013-03-30 23:39:08] Accepted 040aab96 BFL 0 Diff 63/8 [2013-03-30 23:39:09] Accepted 14997fe3 BFL 0 Diff 12/8 [2013-03-30 23:39:10] Accepted 123ded4b BFL 0 Diff 14/8 [2013-03-30 23:39:11] Accepted 0453e37f BFL 0 Diff 59/8 [2013-03-30 23:39:14] Accepted 06bd2321 BFL 0 Diff 37/8 Damn, my device is already 10x faster than BFLs competing product. And I only used 2 minutes to developt my ASIC!
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Very well that there are people who stretch the truth to the surface and volunteer their time to resolve any doubts about another scammer, so that he had nothing more to say ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Phinnaeus Gage thank you, nice to read such a well-conducted e-investigation ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Respect! GalaxyASIC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eT19flOFKk
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March 31, 2013, 04:54:49 PM |
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http://www.prosperreport.com/archive/forums/3/9/3972.0.HTMWell instead of wondering, why not email Max, the group leader and ask him directly? I hope this isn't the beginning of another "bash the growing group" syndrone! Here is his Prosper profile. He sounds like a very interesting guy! "My name is Max, I am CEO/CTO of an Internet Service Provider that I started back in 1996 when I was just 22 years old. I learned a lot about ?American way? and people in general while running my company. I sold large part of the company few years back, but I still have some of the company's assets. I have a business and philanthropic side, I always think about: Is what I am doing, is it good for humanity at large or what can I do to help people. I consider myself a New Yorker, since I living here in NY since I was 18 years old. Nowadays, besides running a Prosper group, I spend most of my time on my new business www.ExpertCollector.com where I provide e-commerce platform for collectors of coins, stamps and other collectibles. Our system runs their on-line stores and is very easy to manage. Soon we will be releasing a new version of our system that will combine power of the likes of eBay and Froogle in one system and will provide unified marketing and advertising of our customers? collectibles. Were I am coming from: My father was a big inventor in Russia. He received ?The Best Inventor of USSR? award and also Bronze medal on All Russian Technological Exhibition. In 1987 I was 14 and got introduced to computers and programming. When I was 18, about a month after finishing my education in Microelectronics and Computer Science in Russia I moved to United States. I am optimistic in all things I do, and I also hope that one day one of MY inventions will make me my first Billion! " Since he evidently has a customer base with his well established businesses I would guess he is acquiring group members from that resource.
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March 31, 2013, 05:13:15 PM |
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For a truly interesting read: http://prosperreport.com/threads/5/5/5555.0.HTM Henceforth, anyone who says anything bad about me or my group will suffer a mandatory expulsion from the internet.
Here are the rules. They are brief, and I expect every Prosper participant to peruse and memorize them posthaste: The whole thread is good.
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April 01, 2013, 01:35:49 PM |
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For a truly interesting read: http://prosperreport.com/threads/5/5/5555.0.HTM Henceforth, anyone who says anything bad about me or my group will suffer a mandatory expulsion from the internet.
Here are the rules. They are brief, and I expect every Prosper participant to peruse and memorize them posthaste: The whole thread is good. soo u saying the duche on steroids? like his linked in profile indeed proves his a duche on sterroids? with bad scamm going on?
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April 01, 2013, 01:54:13 PM |
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There is something i didn't understand in this thread... Why everybody talks about scam ? What is scammy here ? I don't saw author to force someone to give him his money or something... He said when hardware is ready you can pay and get it so lets just wait some time and see... I think scam is when you pay someone and get nothing...
I also had thoughts about developing ASIC, but still cannot get enough funds to start... So if i have posted thread as an announce i will become scammer ?!?!? I think i didn't get it...
Well, if you showed up with a stack of resumes from your organization that establishes a history of delivering ASIC designs, firmware implementations, board and system level hardware, and sales and marketing, I'd say very interesting. If you show up promising technology that no one but $1B/year companies will be able to purchase until at least 2015, I will call you a scammer. Did BFL?
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April 15, 2013, 09:02:26 PM |
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@Entropy-uc I didn't say that their PR or road map is under NDA, it's public info, I said that my agreement with them is under NDA and time haven't come till they permitted us to do the public announcement.
I dont give a flying shiet. Dont ask for preorders. Take orders when you're ready to ship and have been done demo your products to public prior. Otherwise, get the fuck off . I second that!
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April 15, 2013, 10:21:22 PM |
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So you're saying that you signed an NDA with a company selling 20nm chips? I call bullshit.
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April 15, 2013, 10:41:43 PM |
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Awesome homework done here, looks like a scam to be sure!
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April 16, 2013, 12:59:26 AM |
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I already knew this was a scam when I saw a Russian name.
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May 19, 2013, 01:02:49 AM |
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This 20nm process bothers me very much. How can there be a company holding such a technology and not having any public presentations about it, they would have so many big customers if they would just announce the technology instead of trying to hide it until some <500k bitcoin ASICs are produced. Doesn't really sound like that foundry's best interest.
nobody is hiding anything. Google "20nm" and there seem to be many results. Nvidia dismissing 20nm as a useless stop-gap, samsung manufacturing memory ICs on 20nm, and even this on the TSMC website: http://www.tsmc.com/english/dedicatedFoundry/technology/20nm.htmThat said, the 20nm still does bother me as I find this unlikely to be cost-effective. No business in their right mind would go straight for 20nm with all the risk involved in Bitcoin. You would definitely test the market with a less expensive process to reduce risk. If their design can do 0.25W/GH/s, then even doing this on 110nm or 65nm their scaling would be more power efficient than everyone else on the market already. Those Avalons are 110nm, that must be what you're making. You'd have to be either extremely naive or a scammer to suggest anyone capable of manufacturing 20nm semiconductors is going to bother with bitcoin hardware. But I'd love to be proven wrong ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I don't understand why a semiconductor manufacturer would care what the customer is paying them to manufacture, as long as they have the money. But this time I am a real person with the technology background and here is my LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/There is no evidence to prove that this person is you. For all we know, you just found this person's profile online and thought he was a good fit. I do find it unlikely to be you. A seeming native New Yorker with English as a first language, with so many educated credentials and yet your English skills in your posts here are so poor? I find at the very least the person in the linkedin profile seems to have a different writing style. Am I the only one who thinks this? tits or gtfo ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Shouldn't that be "GH/s or gtfo"? Nope. Should be: "tits or GH/s" ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Anyway, I'm just picking things apart. I have no real reason to trust or distrust the claim of the OP. Everything is possible, although the claims are high. Hmm.. if this dude is really located in NYC, that mean's he's only a few train stops away from me. I always feel safer when I purchase something from someone who is local. >:]
Please contact him then if you have the time. I'm sure he would like to know some unknown person on the internet is trying to impersonate him.
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