[ANN - Pre-ICO] BlockPay - Zero Cost, digital currency Point-Of-Sale systems

[Koontas]

There are rumors going around that Ken has left Blockpay. I think Chris will announce an official statement within the next days. My bet is that development is going on as promised after the scammer has been kicked out of business.

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[diablobot]

It is good news that Ken is out of business. He is a typical scammer. It has done so much damage in the meantime.
What's funny is that he has no ability as a developer. There are still many idiots around him who still believe in him.
They have to lose all their money.
Chris4210x, I hope you can use this lesson as a lesson.

[inrage]

Today there was supposed to be a meaningful response from this Hering.

This is absolutely not acceptable: https://blockpay.ch/general/blockpay-status-update/.

Previously he said that a buyback or reimbursement of ICO funds can be an option. However it seems that the ICO funds have disappeared. There is a history of delaying related questions and not providing stake holders with due information. I will wait two days more for a real update and a statement for the whereabouts of the funds. If nothing real is happening from then on I will file charges in Munich for fraud. Here is where he is hiding behind his dad: https://www.anwalt.de/wolfgang-hering. When a lawyer decides it is best for his client to not respond it means there is something to hide.

[Drokzid]

A lot of open questions. The way how you deal with this issue is extremely unstatisfying for investors.

• What exactly happened to the ico funds?
• Will there ever be a chat room on slack or telegram to interact with the community?
• Is there active development going on?
• Could you please present the whole team working on the BlockPay product?
• Will there ever be an real ICO? There was only a pre ico so far?
• What other projects are you working on Christoph Hering?
• Will there ever be true transparency again to fix the broken trust of investors?

The announcement linked above is absolutely meaningless and spongy imho.

[inrage]

The ico funds are gone https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/37jDFfS9WJEPL33YivJbnjfQQNU5RjFWFY . There is a pattern of emptying the address already before the internal break-up was communicated. It was said that the transfers had to do with saving them from Ken. However, that doesn't make much sense given the circumstances of the 3 of 3 multisig.

In addition, it was reported that BitShares Munich IVS never filed the financials as is required under the law.

I am collecting evidence for the fraud charge. Please, anyone who got a statement from Chris or Ken about a buy-back, reimbursement of ico funds, or stories about the funds being saved from Ken let us know.

I would also appreciate if the co-signers of the ico address can comment on the transactions.

[Rumhurius]

in the real world you would end up with some decent jailtime.

What a fuckery.

[Crypto privacy]

"Zero Cost" - Zero money
Unfortunately, scam projects are becoming more and more..

[diablobot]

About 20% of the remaining investors' funds went to Ken's account.

It was transferred from the account of echocold1 to the account of kencode.

Scammers. Spit the money.

[diablobot]

Chris4210x!  Ken sold everything. Look at what the crazy guy did.

It's our money that you gave the freak.

I will sue you if you do not get the bts back.

[inrage]

They are both scammers, Ken allegedly hiring all the time https://steemit.com/@kencode. You never see anything from him. What is he giving in return for getting funds from the ICO? There is a Bitshares wallet for Android that was there already before Blockpay started. The "PoS system" is nothing else than a variation of the same wallet.

Christoph is mentally ill https://www.christophhering.ch, a bipolar disorder with tendency to Marxism and messianic religiosity.

Hopefully they get indicted and convicted.

[diablobot]

Two dogs are on earth.  I hope you'll die on the road at night.

Scary?

If you sell stealth and buy blockpay, Good~~

[diablobot]

I'll show you what the scammers manipulate.

   
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indominon = onceuponatime = disperse

Get out of the world in Bitshares !!!

[inrage]

total scam:

https://github.com/kenCode-de?tab=repositories

Most repositories have nothing to do with Blockpay, and no contribution from Blockpay "devs". At some time they were talking about c-ipfs being developed and needed (Christoph in the podcast).

https://github.com/Agorise/c-ipfs/graphs/contributors

c-ipfs is from developers totally unrelated to Blockpay...

Ken's only commit for the smartcoin-wallet:

https://github.com/kenCode-de/smartcoins-wallet/commit/5c6976d3c20a34879820b3ebffff9f7d0960d64e

...it is as well from real devs unrelated to Blockpay.

Blockpay "s" is more or less the same as the smartcoin-wallet, and only one commit from Ken

https://github.com/kenCode-de/blockpay-s/graphs/contributors

there appears an unidentifiable bogus dev from Peru:

https://github.com/bilthon

...Christoph was presenting all this crap

[Chris4210x]

Hi Drokzoid,

Thank you for your questions. I am actively working with our new development team and will release more regular updates very soon. Meanwhile, let me answer your questions in the best possible way.

• What exactly happened to the ico funds?

All ICO funds are with the company and used for the delivery of the products.

• Will there ever be a chat room on slack or telegram to interact with the community?

Yes, there will be a new community chat room for additional updates.

• Is there active development going on?

Of course. A new team with a very professional development team is working on our products. We are currently working on the redesign of the BlockPay UI and the Smartcoins Wallet. The last two weeks I worked with our designers on the Wireframes and improved the onboarding process as well as the usability of the apps.

• Could you please present the whole team working on the BlockPay product?

We are going to introduce the team members to you one by one in the next weeks.

• What other projects are you working on Christoph Hering?

BitShares Munich and BlockPay is the only full time job I have. In addition to that I am one of the Organizer of the Blockshow Europe and I support the “Blockchain Bundesverband” here in Germany. http://bundesblock.de/

• Will there ever be true transparency again to fix the broken trust of investors?

Yes, there will be full transparency and regular updates.

[Drokzid]

Hi Drokzoid,

Thank you for your questions. I am actively working with our new development team and will release more regular updates very soon. Meanwhile, let me answer your questions in the best possible way.

• What exactly happened to the ico funds?

All ICO funds are with the company and used for the delivery of the products.

• Will there ever be a chat room on slack or telegram to interact with the community?

Yes, there will be a new community chat room for additional updates.

• Is there active development going on?

Of course. A new team with a very professional development team is working on our products. We are currently working on the redesign of the BlockPay UI and the Smartcoins Wallet. The last two weeks I worked with our designers on the Wireframes and improved the onboarding process as well as the usability of the apps.

• Could you please present the whole team working on the BlockPay product?

We are going to introduce the team members to you one by one in the next weeks.

• What other projects are you working on Christoph Hering?

BitShares Munich and BlockPay is the only full time job I have. In addition to that I am one of the Organizer of the Blockshow Europe and I support the “Blockchain Bundesverband” here in Germany. http://bundesblock.de/

• Will there ever be true transparency again to fix the broken trust of investors?

Yes, there will be full transparency and regular updates.

BlockPay was delisted from Coinmarketcap today. Why? Have you taken that listing down by yourself?

Via Telegram you told me that you hired community managers. What are these guys exactly doing? Why aren't they discussing with the community right now?

Why haven't you answered to the latest questions in this thread regarding all those curious BTC transactions?

Do you think BlockPay as a brand could ever be receovered from this fud and lose of trust? You need more than a roadmap, whitepaper and empty promises to turn the tide.

[diablobot]

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Is Kencode insane?           1.30  ----> 0.029       about 387,000 blockpay tokens he sold at a time.

Scammers.

[inrage]

game over!

They should pay out the remaining funds from the ico. In theory the Blockpay token could be worth something, depending on what is left.

Not providing financial statements is a shitshow.

[diablobot]

Account:   ccedk.aps ---> It sold about 50,000 blockpay lately at 1.0 bts/blockpay.
               ccedk.marketing ---> It sold about 6,000 blockpay lately.
              
               bitshares-munich wallet ---> It sold  in May.


Because they got blockpay tokens for free !!!

Never give money to these fucking guys.            

Everything you can get for free is worthless.

[joejeronimo]

the scam is real!
unfortunately I just bought a little amount of this shitty scammy shitcoin.
at least I did not put in too much.
noobish behaviour of mine.
I should have seen it coming, with a little better research.

@Chris4210x > keeping the lies up till the end is really naughty.

and now theres is even no balls left for any statement.

shame on you!

[Chris4210x]

There is a Bitshares wallet for Android that was there already before Blockpay started. The "PoS system" is nothing else than a variation of the same wallet.

Christoph is mentally ill https://www.christophhering.ch, a bipolar disorder with tendency to Marxism and messianic religiosity.

The BitShares Wallet you are referring to was the first product prototype of BitShares Munich and has been published in spring 2016, as a proof of concept before the pre-ico in August 2016. We replaced this first wallet a few months later through the current Smartcoins Wallet on Google Play.

The Smartcoins Wallet and BlockPay share a similar codebase than our first POC.


I do not own nor am I affiliated with the domain https://www.christophhering.ch . Please see here: http://whois.marcaria.com/domain-whois/europe/switzerland-domain-ch?q=christophhering.ch  You got the wrong person here.

There are rumors going around that Ken has left Blockpay. I think Chris will announce an official statement within the next days. My bet is that development is going on as promised after the scammer has been kicked out of business.

Yes, that is correct. Ken left BlockPay and has taken over the responsibility to deliver the Stealth Transaction feature. https://blockpay.ch/general/blockpay-status-update/

I and the rest of the team are now focusing on continuing developing BlockPay and Echo. I am currently working with the new development team and bringing them up to speed with our technology. Regular development updates will follow.

Questions from: Drokzid

BlockPay was delisted from Coinmarketcap today. Why? Have you taken that listing down by yourself?

Via Telegram you told me that you hired community managers. What are these guys exactly doing? Why aren't they discussing with the community right now?

Why haven't you answered to the latest questions in this thread regarding all those curious BTC transactions?

Do you think BlockPay as a brand could ever be receovered from this fud and lose of trust? You need more than a roadmap, whitepaper and empty promises to turn the tide.

BlockPay is still listed with Coinmarketcap and other sites as you can see here https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/blockpay/ .

As I told you in Telegram already I started working with a new marketing team. We are right now working on new content, articles and development reports for you.

Ken left the BlockPay team so that he can focus on his work on the Stealth Transaction feature. It was his own decision to sell his BlockPay tokens. I strongly believe in BlockPay and our new products and therefore I see no reason to sell them.

BlockPay is a great name but it also has its limitations. We are now going to introduce a catchier and more international brand that matches our B2B target groups in the financial service industry. Building a trusted and easy to remember brand is my main goal now. I already got the new name, next is the logo and our new brand colors. I am very excited to introduce the name to you.

More updates about our progress will be regularly published here in Bitcointalk and on our website too.