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October 26, 2016, 01:46:45 AM |
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current conditions are still difficult to predict, the fundamentals were not able to move the current prices because while it is still available in the market which incidentally is still far below poloniex and bittrex. Can only wait for what the decision will be taken by the team ICONOMI, because logically not be possible if the token is not added to the market reliable as poloniex and bittrex
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sussex
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October 26, 2016, 01:50:24 AM |
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Can only wait for what the decision will be taken by the team ICONOMI, because logically not be possible if the token is not added to the market reliable as poloniex and bittrex
I don't get what you mean. The ICN team cannot decide to force an exchange to list the token, it is entirely up to the exchange.
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raphma
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October 26, 2016, 01:50:30 AM |
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Definitely not. its like how ANTshares did it. The exchange is only for the group of individuals who has an account on kraken which most of bitcoin users are also avoiding. The team is very pro but the launch isn't.Those who hasn't sold their token when the team offered are now regretting and why would anyone regret? ico price was 20k(iconomi was buying at that same price) and anyone willing to dump can sell at kraken for 22~30k. When the trade was opened, the price reached 38k. again, why would anyone regret??
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bitvalak
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October 26, 2016, 01:52:15 AM |
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Where's them fellas that predicted it would dump well below ico price now?
He probably dump his balance in liqui or kraken, cause he can't wait to buy lambo to be used as a taxi
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October 26, 2016, 01:55:50 AM |
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Like I said before, ICN will be a great long term project! If you thought you were buying a Lambo today, slap yourself! .:: S l a p Y o u r L a m b o ::.
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bitvalak
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October 26, 2016, 01:58:30 AM |
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Can only wait for what the decision will be taken by the team ICONOMI, because logically not be possible if the token is not added to the market reliable as poloniex and bittrex
I don't get what you mean. The ICN team cannot decide to force an exchange to list the token, it is entirely up to the exchange. sorry, my english not good but it wasnt an exchange requires approval / cooperation with the development team? I think it happens a conversation between the development team and the exchange, only a decision of its own ICONOMI
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October 26, 2016, 02:02:28 AM |
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lambo is dream
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sussex
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October 26, 2016, 02:03:52 AM |
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sorry, my english not good but it wasnt an exchange requires approval / cooperation with the development team? I think it happens a conversation between the development team and the exchange, only a decision of its own ICONOMI Your english is fine. No cooperation with the ICN team is necessary, anybody can set up an exchange for any coin/token without the dev team knowing anything about it.
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bitvalak
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October 26, 2016, 02:11:32 AM |
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sorry, my english not good but it wasnt an exchange requires approval / cooperation with the development team? I think it happens a conversation between the development team and the exchange, only a decision of its own ICONOMI Your english is fine. No cooperation with the ICN team is necessary, anybody can set up an exchange for any coin/token without the dev team knowing anything about it. I mean are private conversations, there must be things that maybe you also understand what I mean by "private conversation" Well, better to wait for the next latest news from ICONOMI
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October 26, 2016, 02:11:47 AM |
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sorry, my english not good but it wasnt an exchange requires approval / cooperation with the development team? I think it happens a conversation between the development team and the exchange, only a decision of its own ICONOMI Your english is fine. No cooperation with the ICN team is necessary, anybody can set up an exchange for any coin/token without the dev team knowing anything about it. but in reality ICONOMI team strongly discourages it to our people bring to the trading site https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587736.msg16679871#msg16679871
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bitvalak
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October 26, 2016, 02:13:31 AM |
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lambo is dream
will continue to be a dream if no effort you are doing HAHAHAHA LOL
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honolulumark
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October 26, 2016, 02:14:11 AM |
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goddammit whats going on with the bitcoin network, it's been 5 hours since I tried to send a deposit. and its still unconfirmed
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shapeshiftscam
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October 26, 2016, 02:18:15 AM |
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Kraken sucks, volume is bad, ppl like trading fiat there, not altcoin trading.
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sussex
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October 26, 2016, 02:18:32 AM |
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goddammit whats going on with the bitcoin network, it's been 5 hours since I tried to send a deposit. and its still unconfirmed
It's really gone to shit today, last time I looked there were 45000+ unconfirmed TXs on the network. Edit: It's dropped a bit now, only 36000+... https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
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CoinMega
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October 26, 2016, 02:19:56 AM |
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It has only been 8 hours since the actual launch. Wait a bit guys, it will be listed on all big exchanges. I do not see any reason why it won't be added.
Keep calm and HODL.
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sussex
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October 26, 2016, 02:20:25 AM |
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ICONOMI failed? Yeah, it's fucked. You've lost your whole $1.50....
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October 26, 2016, 02:20:57 AM |
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This is my take on the situation:
a) Liqui is a relatively new, low population, untrusted exchange. Having said that, the price is holding-up better there.
b) Kraken is a a weird exchange with crappy charts and odd pairings that, despite having good volume, has a different kind of buyer who is much more cautious. Many people will be waiting for a more mainstream exchange which doesn't require verification. I myself have not bought coins because of the hassle of the exchange.
c) Volume is low. Until there is significant trading the price will be unpredictable.
d) Weak hands will be selling at the moment, hopefully they will dry up soon.
e) The BTC network is in a mess right now.
f) By rights, ICN should have a market cap around the same as Lisk or higher, in my opinion.
g) The amount of tokens on exchanges is very small, just a few percent. That's a good sign, it means the vast majority are hodling (refer to point d).
h) The fundamentals have not changed. It's a good idea backed-up by a good team following a smooth launch and with a huge pile of BTC to fund the development and another huge pile of BTC for the trading fund.
Obviously it could still go to shit, but I doubt it.
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i) And this post just got me "hero" status... the omens are good.
Good points. Kraken is primarily used by people trading fiat. In fact, remove the fiat trading pairs, and the daily volume is only 3300 BTC. It's not a place I think of when I think huge buy support and volume for apptoken. Bittrex is all altcoin trading with 2240 BTC daily volume Poloniex has 24101 BTC daily volume from altcoin trading Poloniex also has the biggest order books. 7MM+ ETH and 80k+ BTC on the exchange, which all goes towards altcoin trading pairs The party will really get started if poloniex lists ICN The fact that this is holding above ico price on Kraken, with only 30 BTC on buy side, and 4% of ICN supply now transferred there, is actually amazing. Goes to show that people are holding their ICN strong.
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sorry, my english not good but it wasnt an exchange requires approval / cooperation with the development team? I think it happens a conversation between the development team and the exchange, only a decision of its own ICONOMI Your english is fine. No cooperation with the ICN team is necessary, anybody can set up an exchange for any coin/token without the dev team knowing anything about it. In this case ( of Iconomi) you are right, but when is required a full node, things are different (eg. Lisk or Wave protocol)
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October 26, 2016, 02:24:24 AM |
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This is my take on the situation:
a) Liqui is a relatively new, low population, untrusted exchange. Having said that, the price is holding-up better there.
b) Kraken is a a weird exchange with crappy charts and odd pairings that, despite having good volume, has a different kind of buyer who is much more cautious. Many people will be waiting for a more mainstream exchange which doesn't require verification. I myself have not bought coins because of the hassle of the exchange.
c) Volume is low. Until there is significant trading the price will be unpredictable.
d) Weak hands will be selling at the moment, hopefully they will dry up soon.
e) The BTC network is in a mess right now.
f) By rights, ICN should have a market cap around the same as Lisk or higher, in my opinion.
g) The amount of tokens on exchanges is very small, just a few percent. That's a good sign, it means the vast majority are hodling (refer to point d).
h) The fundamentals have not changed. It's a good idea backed-up by a good team following a smooth launch and with a huge pile of BTC to fund the development and another huge pile of BTC for the trading fund.
Obviously it could still go to shit, but I doubt it.
Edit:
i) And this post just got me "hero" status... the omens are good.
Good points. Kraken is primarily used by people trading fiat. In fact, remove the fiat trading pairs, and the daily volume is only 3300 BTC. It's not a place I think of when I think huge buy support and volume for apptoken. Bittrex is all altcoin trading with 2240 BTC daily volume Poloniex has 24101 BTC daily volume from altcoin trading Poloniex also has the biggest order books. 7MM+ ETH and 80k+ BTC on the exchange, which all goes towards altcoin trading pairs The party will really get started if poloniex lists ICN Price pump requires whales willing to pump. Organic pump is non existent. Exchange is secondary thing.
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