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November 24, 2016, 07:41:36 PM
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yeah, ethereum looks more and more like forkereum. And it doesn't like it is the last one.
It would be really good if other chains were considered. But which one?

CounterParty??

Maybe?

7246 BTC market cap and 11 BTC daily trade volume.

No crypto asset has ever traded at a higher market cap than the platform it lives on.

Bitcoin blockchain would be too expensive to use, so Ethereum is currently the only choice of vehicle to take us to the moon.

ICN could always launch their own blockchain if they really needed to.  For now, it's more efficient to let the Ethereum developers focus on maintaining a blockchain instead of hiring developers to do it in house.

Aren't you worried with all these weekly forks? Stability is crucial at this stage.

Ethereum is still in 'beta' so I think there is not any problem, it's not stable yet Smiley.

Forking every week and having different major issue so often is a big problem, beta or not. But like MoveCrypto said, we don't really have any other option for now.
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November 24, 2016, 07:45:53 PM
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yeah, ethereum looks more and more like forkereum. And it doesn't like it is the last one.
It would be really good if other chains were considered. But which one?

CounterParty??

Maybe?

7246 BTC market cap and 11 BTC daily trade volume.

No crypto asset has ever traded at a higher market cap than the platform it lives on.

Bitcoin blockchain would be too expensive to use, so Ethereum is currently the only choice of vehicle to take us to the moon.

ICN could always launch their own blockchain if they really needed to.  For now, it's more efficient to let the Ethereum developers focus on maintaining a blockchain instead of hiring developers to do it in house.

Aren't you worried with all these weekly forks? Stability is crucial at this stage.

Ethereum is still in 'beta' so I think there is not any problem, it's not stable yet Smiley.

Forking every week and having different major issue so often is a big problem, beta or not. But like MoveCrypto said, we don't really have any other option for now.

Be patient and to da moon!
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November 24, 2016, 07:48:21 PM
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yeah, ethereum looks more and more like forkereum. And it doesn't like it is the last one.
It would be really good if other chains were considered. But which one?

CounterParty??

Maybe?

7246 BTC market cap and 11 BTC daily trade volume.

No crypto asset has ever traded at a higher market cap than the platform it lives on.

Bitcoin blockchain would be too expensive to use, so Ethereum is currently the only choice of vehicle to take us to the moon.

ICN could always launch their own blockchain if they really needed to.  For now, it's more efficient to let the Ethereum developers focus on maintaining a blockchain instead of hiring developers to do it in house.

Aren't you worried with all these weekly forks? Stability is crucial at this stage.

Ethereum is still in 'beta' so I think there is not any problem, it's not stable yet Smiley.

Forking every week and having different major issue so often is a big problem, beta or not. But like MoveCrypto said, we don't really have any other option for now.


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November 24, 2016, 07:49:44 PM
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yeah, ethereum looks more and more like forkereum. And it doesn't like it is the last one.
It would be really good if other chains were considered. But which one?

CounterParty??

Maybe?

7246 BTC market cap and 11 BTC daily trade volume.

No crypto asset has ever traded at a higher market cap than the platform it lives on.

Bitcoin blockchain would be too expensive to use, so Ethereum is currently the only choice of vehicle to take us to the moon.

ICN could always launch their own blockchain if they really needed to.  For now, it's more efficient to let the Ethereum developers focus on maintaining a blockchain instead of hiring developers to do it in house.

Aren't you worried with all these weekly forks? Stability is crucial at this stage.

Ethereum is still in 'beta' so I think there is not any problem, it's not stable yet Smiley.

Forking every week and having different major issue so often is a big problem, beta or not. But like MoveCrypto said, we don't really have any other option for now.

I'd be more worried about constraining the growth of ICN if they switched to a smaller platform.

I'd rather see them launch their own blockchain if they wanted to move away from Ethereum.  In that case, they might have to deal with a lot of forking, hard forks, and debugging that is common with a lot of new blockchains.

A Lisk sidechain could also become a viable option, but there needs to be a lot of growth first before Lisk platform could support a huge project like ICN.

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November 24, 2016, 07:52:57 PM
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i need more icn in my wallet
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November 24, 2016, 07:53:48 PM
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Ethereum is quite resilient even though a lot of negative stuff is going on.

It has the support of many big parties which will help to keep it afloat and a strong development team that seems to come up with something quite quickly.

NOTE: I'm not a big fan of ethereum, just stating my observations.
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November 24, 2016, 07:54:55 PM
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man, how hard to understand.

polo is not listing any ethereum tokens. not one of them.

they are an exchange, so they cant handle dividends payment anyway.

on the other hand they are usa based. if they sell tokens on their platform, which represent a stakeholder value, they are screwed from the regulatory side, because they dont have the license to do that - Kraken do.


Aaaand what about REP (augur)  Roll Eyes?

which makes not much sense though. REP functions mostly the same as ICN, so it can't be for legal reasons

Yes of course, it's not due legal reasons. I still think that it is due the NDA between iconomi and poloniex, there isn't any other possible valid reason.

but why would you want to keep your stuff off of an exchange?

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November 24, 2016, 07:55:15 PM
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yeah, ethereum looks more and more like forkereum. And it doesn't like it is the last one.
It would be really good if other chains were considered. But which one?

CounterParty??

Maybe?

7246 BTC market cap and 11 BTC daily trade volume.

No crypto asset has ever traded at a higher market cap than the platform it lives on.

Bitcoin blockchain would be too expensive to use, so Ethereum is currently the only choice of vehicle to take us to the moon.

ICN could always launch their own blockchain if they really needed to.  For now, it's more efficient to let the Ethereum developers focus on maintaining a blockchain instead of hiring developers to do it in house.

Aren't you worried with all these weekly forks? Stability is crucial at this stage.

Ethereum is still in 'beta' so I think there is not any problem, it's not stable yet Smiley.

Forking every week and having different major issue so often is a big problem, beta or not. But like MoveCrypto said, we don't really have any other option for now.

I'd be more worried about constraining the growth of ICN if they switched to a smaller platform.

I'd rather see them launch their own blockchain if they wanted to move away from Ethereum.  In that case, they might have to deal with a lot of forking, hard forks, and debugging that is common with a lot of new blockchains.

A Lisk sidechain could also become a viable option, but there needs to be a lot of growth first before Lisk platform could support a huge project like ICN.

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November 24, 2016, 08:03:05 PM
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Ethereum is the biggest smart contract platform with the most people working on it. That alone would be reason enough for me to stay there.

There is a decent chance, that the reason why ethereum looks so full of holes is, that it's constantly in the spotlight and a lot of eyes are examining it closely. Take a coin like counterparty, give it a billion dollar market cap and as many people working on it as ethereum and see how many flaws you will find then.

Just because something doesn't look broken, doesn't mean that it isn't. Maybe you just didn't look closely enough.
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November 24, 2016, 08:12:34 PM
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Ethereum is the biggest smart contract platform with the most people working on it. That alone would be reason enough for me to stay there.

There is a decent chance, that the reason why ethereum looks so full of holes is, that it's constantly in the spotlight and a lot of eyes are examining it closely. Take a coin like counterparty, give it a billion dollar market cap and as many people working on it as ethereum and see how many flaws you will find then.

Just because something doesn't look broken, doesn't mean that it isn't. Maybe you just didn't look closely enough.

Yeah do not panic, because the ICN has not entered into BITTREX and POLONIEX
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November 24, 2016, 08:14:40 PM
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Ethereum is the biggest smart contract platform with the most people working on it. That alone would be reason enough for me to stay there.

There is a decent chance, that the reason why ethereum looks so full of holes is, that it's constantly in the spotlight and a lot of eyes are examining it closely. Take a coin like counterparty, give it a billion dollar market cap and as many people working on it as ethereum and see how many flaws you will find then.

Just because something doesn't look broken, doesn't mean that it isn't. Maybe you just didn't look closely enough.

Completely agreed, this is how you make things work but well there are a lot of speculators, fud and obviously "bad" news that influence the short term price. Long term we all know that Ethereum is something special and could even overtake Bitcoin or make it obsolete. Not Ethereum itself but all its tokens and ecosystem could render some technologies useless. We know Bitcoin is still king but it hasn't made much progress in terms of adoption and popularity, blocks are full, plenty of different camps. Even if it's rallying right now, we all know it's temporary.

The future is full of doubts, we can have Ethereum at $100 and Bitcoin at $2000 and beyond in 2017-18 or nothing at all since crypto projects still can't seem to come up with the killer app for the average user or company. Once that happens (if it happens) then I'm sure we'll all be very wealthy as early adopters of many of these projects.
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November 24, 2016, 08:18:33 PM
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If apple releases an update nobody cares.

If ETH forks the whole world is shaken to the core. Why?

I don`t see a difference in these two scenarios. If forking helps ETH improve, then please go for it.
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November 24, 2016, 08:27:23 PM
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If apple releases an update nobody cares.

If ETH forks the whole world is shaken to the core. Why?

I don`t see a difference in these two scenarios. If forking helps ETH improve, then please go for it.

that bitch's forking every 2 seconds though, it seems.....

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November 24, 2016, 08:33:12 PM
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time to buy another 1000ICNs then!! Cheesy
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November 24, 2016, 08:51:48 PM
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man, how hard to understand.

polo is not listing any ethereum tokens. not one of them.

they are an exchange, so they cant handle dividends payment anyway.

on the other hand they are usa based. if they sell tokens on their platform, which represent a stakeholder value, they are screwed from the regulatory side, because they dont have the license to do that - Kraken do.


Aaaand what about REP (augur)  Roll Eyes?

which makes not much sense though. REP functions mostly the same as ICN, so it can't be for legal reasons

Yes of course, it's not due legal reasons. I still think that it is due the NDA between iconomi and poloniex, there isn't any other possible valid reason.

but why would you want to keep your stuff off of an exchange?

I don't really know, maybe waiting the effective launch of the iconomi platform.
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November 24, 2016, 08:58:34 PM
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I still have a problem that until now has not been solved, while I hope my case can be overcome by good, I did not get a confirmation notice 2FA me on email
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November 24, 2016, 09:19:23 PM
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I still have a problem that until now has not been solved, while I hope my case can be overcome by good, I did not get a confirmation notice 2FA me on email

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November 24, 2016, 09:24:37 PM
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I still have a problem that until now has not been solved, while I hope my case can be overcome by good, I did not get a confirmation notice 2FA me on email

please contact the support of their site via email support@iconomi.net
I hope your problem can be resolved
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November 24, 2016, 10:14:10 PM
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Ethereum is the biggest smart contract platform with the most people working on it. That alone would be reason enough for me to stay there.

There is a decent chance, that the reason why ethereum looks so full of holes is, that it's constantly in the spotlight and a lot of eyes are examining it closely. Take a coin like counterparty, give it a billion dollar market cap and as many people working on it as ethereum and see how many flaws you will find then.

Just because something doesn't look broken, doesn't mean that it isn't. Maybe you just didn't look closely enough.

Completely agreed, this is how you make things work but well there are a lot of speculators, fud and obviously "bad" news that influence the short term price. Long term we all know that Ethereum is something special and could even overtake Bitcoin or make it obsolete. Not Ethereum itself but all its tokens and ecosystem could render some technologies useless. We know Bitcoin is still king but it hasn't made much progress in terms of adoption and popularity, blocks are full, plenty of different camps. Even if it's rallying right now, we all know it's temporary.

The future is full of doubts, we can have Ethereum at $100 and Bitcoin at $2000 and beyond in 2017-18 or nothing at all since crypto projects still can't seem to come up with the killer app for the average user or company. Once that happens (if it happens) then I'm sure we'll all be very wealthy as early adopters of many of these projects.

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Obsolete? You obviously don't understand what bitcoin is about. Ethereum can never replace Bitcoin. It is not designed for store of value, it is definitely not immutable and a network so much dependent on single guy (King Vitalik) is not a healthy one.
Damn, he even DDOSed its own nework during the DAO flow just to slow it down.

And that is before we talked about PoS..

Bitcoin network, as we see it today is just layer0. When services will be built on top, most alt coins will be obsolete, not Bitcoin.
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November 24, 2016, 10:40:08 PM
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I like the mature and professional approach Iconomi has decided to take in terms of exchanges. It's also nice to see Jesse Powell supporting Iconomi in person.

This project has my full interest, but I'm not yet invested!! Please don't leave without me guys, I'll be on board soon. Surprisingly cheap with such potential Cheesy

Goodluck everyone and more importantly the team. Looking forward to supporting where I deem capable.
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