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February 13, 2017, 07:26:52 AM
Last edit: February 13, 2017, 11:18:28 AM by MoveCrypto
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It's a foreign security, if even that, Americans go through brokerages to get those all the time. Any real world trader knows this. Heck, most of them have foreign securities in their 401ks. Your FUD level is nonsensical at best but is bordering on the things so noobishly simple to debunk that you are just trolling, poorly. You should really learn the basics of global trade and try harder next time, failure. At least vary your punctuation and time stamps, idiot.  Please for the love of god call the SEC and show them your brilliance on foreign investing fundamentals, I am sure, like many here, they too would be simply dazzled with your marvelous lack of working knowledge.

Orly?

Since when US exchanges (e.g. Kraken.com) are allowed to sell unregistered foreign securities to US investors?

Kraken has an entire team of lawyers who are experts on securities laws, you dumb fuck

So does Coinbase & Poloniex and they classified ICN as a Security Token:
https://coincenter.org/entry/is-your-cryptotoken-a-security-this-new-tool-will-help-you-find-out
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QxOV2dgxO3C_TyVE0-41ZwLlzPmB-EE1NNshJGuedCU/edit#gid=0
https://www.coinbase.com/legal/securities-law-framework.pdf

Kraken.com is, knowingly or unknowingly, breaking US SEC laws by trading ICN Security Tokens on their site, since Kraken is US based.

None of that shit you linked is a source for the lie you just invented about Coinbase and Poloniex.  

Iconomi devs are probably waiting until ICNX and ICN are both in circulation before pushing for additional exchange listings.

Legit Source, straight from the owner of a US exchange.  Reason it's not listed on more exchanges has nothing to do with regulation:



*He made a typo and meant to say ICN if you go read the actual slack log.

Kraken would not list something for only a few % bump in daily volume unless it was 100% legal, legit, and approved by their team of securities-expert lawyers.

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February 13, 2017, 07:41:29 AM
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It's a foreign security, if even that, Americans go through brokerages to get those all the time. Any real world trader knows this. Heck, most of them have foreign securities in their 401ks. Your FUD level is nonsensical at best but is bordering on the things so noobishly simple to debunk that you are just trolling, poorly. You should really learn the basics of global trade and try harder next time, failure. At least vary your punctuation and time stamps, idiot.  Please for the love of god call the SEC and show them your brilliance on foreign investing fundamentals, I am sure, like many here, they too would be simply dazzled with your marvelous lack of working knowledge.

Orly?

Since when US exchanges (e.g. Kraken.com) are allowed to sell unregistered foreign securities to US investors?

Kraken has an entire team of lawyers who are experts on securities laws, you dumb fuck

So does Coinbase & Poloniex and they classified ICN as a Security Token:
https://coincenter.org/entry/is-your-cryptotoken-a-security-this-new-tool-will-help-you-find-out
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QxOV2dgxO3C_TyVE0-41ZwLlzPmB-EE1NNshJGuedCU/edit#gid=0
https://www.coinbase.com/legal/securities-law-framework.pdf

Kraken.com is, knowingly or unknowingly, breaking US SEC laws by trading ICN Security Tokens on their site, since Kraken is US based.

None of that shit you linked is a source for the lie you just invented about Coinbase and Poloniex.  

Iconomi devs are probably waiting until ICNX and ICN are both in circulation before pushing for additional exchange listings.

Legit Source, straight from the owner of an altcoin exchange.  Reason it's not listed on more exchanges has nothing to do with regulation:

https://i.imgur.com/NOhoFXL.jpg

*He made a typo and meant to say ICN if you go read the actual slack log.
Clearly Bittrex is saying ICN is "not getting listed soon" which is obvious since ICN is a Security Tokens, same reason why Poloniex will never list it.
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February 13, 2017, 07:43:27 AM
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I think ICN will go day by day a little down. Only delays and no new exchanges soon.

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February 13, 2017, 07:56:15 AM
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Bittrex is almost DEAD... it's got NO VOLUME, how's that going to help ICN?
When Kraken delists ICN after they find out that it's a Security Token, only Liqui will be left.
https://i.imgur.com/7uqRaIj.png
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February 13, 2017, 07:59:57 AM
Last edit: February 13, 2017, 11:22:47 AM by MoveCrypto
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Bittrex is almost DEAD... it's got NO VOLUME, how's that going to help ICN?


You're repeating yourself over and over and you entirely missed the point.

Kraken's securities-expert lawyers approved ICN listing

Bittrex owner verified that the reason it was listed on Kraken and not other exchanges is because ICN devs gave Kraken approval, but not yet any other exchanges.

Most major exchanges don't list a coin/token unless they get approval from the devs.

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February 13, 2017, 08:09:02 AM
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Bittrex is almost DEAD... it's got NO VOLUME, how's that going to help ICN?

https://i.imgur.com/7uqRaIj.png


You're repeating yourself over and over and you just demonstrated your stupidity again by entirely missing the point.

- Kraken's securities-expert lawyers approved ICN listing

- Bittrex owner debunked the fud that there was any regulation problem with listing ICN.  
He verified that the reason it was listed on Kraken and not other exchanges is because ICN devs gave Kraken green light, but not yet any other exchanges.

Most major exchanges don't list a coin/token unless they get approval from the devs.

Bittrex owner said ICN is "not getting listed soon" because it's a Security Token you moron.
ICN founders said repeatedly that they tried to list ICN on Poloniex & kept hiding behind NDA's because Poloniex refused to list ICN because it's a Security Token.

Bittrex owner said they're "working on other things" meaning ICNX trading, which will only accelerate the dilution of ICN price & market cap since dividends from ICNX will remain minuscule for months.
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February 13, 2017, 08:10:47 AM
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ICN will dump to .00030s, then continues dumping to .00020s when Devs launch the platform with just ICNX trading, with no OFM in sight. Then will drop below ICO level like the majority of ICOs.
No, I'm sorry. I don't plan on buying back AT ALL.
I rather invest in another ICO and make a quick x4 or x5 return, than go down with this ship back under ICO level.
With so many competitors showing promising prototypes (MelonPort, NeuFund.org, Equibit, TaaS, etc...), Iconomi's value proposition has "gone out the window".
As I said:

Iconomi had potential back in Q3/Q4 2016 but unfortunately the delays, the lies, the woes are starting to unravel in their business plan, especially with the legal barriers & OFM delay to end of 2017.

Don't say I didn't warn you!
The next dump will drop ICN below ICO level.


https://i.imgur.com/WJ19EqZ.png

Meanwhile, Iconomi shills keep shitposting while insiders keep dumping on the noobs.

The BIG DUMP is coming...
https://i.imgur.com/GXq77Fs.png
Looks like the dumping is about to begin...
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February 13, 2017, 08:15:02 AM
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Bittrex is almost DEAD... it's got NO VOLUME, how's that going to help ICN?



You're repeating yourself over and over and you just demonstrated your stupidity again by entirely missing the point.

- Kraken's securities-expert lawyers approved ICN listing

- Bittrex owner debunked the fud that there was any regulation problem with listing ICN.  
He verified that the reason it was listed on Kraken and not other exchanges is because ICN devs gave Kraken green light, but not yet any other exchanges.

Most major exchanges don't list a coin/token unless they get approval from the devs.

Bittrex owner said ICN is "not getting listed soon" because it's a Security Token you moron.
ICN founders said repeatedly that they tried to list ICN on Poloniex & kept hiding behind NDA's because Poloniex refused to list ICN because it's a Security Token.

Bittrex owner said they're "working on other things" meaning ICNX trading, which will only accelerate the dilution of ICN price & market cap since dividends from ICNX will remain minuscule for months.

You're trying to twist his quote to fit your troll fud narrative.  His actual quote was "not getting listed soon" because "one of the founders" "wasn't interested in getting ION listed on any additional exchanges."

I will post it again.  People can read what he actually said:



Bittrex and Poloniex listed DAO no problem, and that's also a dividend-paying ethereum token.  Kraken's team of lawyers also approved both DAO and ICN.

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February 13, 2017, 08:24:15 AM
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Wow! I just know that today happens dump 29K satoshi, whether to continue?
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February 13, 2017, 08:56:59 AM
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Bitcoin is getting dumped hard today, so it may take ICN down with it:

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February 13, 2017, 08:58:46 AM
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Wow! I just know that today happens dump 29K satoshi, whether to continue?

Without any news from dev team price will continue to decline, no matter of FUD or not.
Mind set of investors is twisted now to "panic" that drop 41k>30k is panic but is not despair...
Price will slide down without any news for sure.
35k is reasonable for me.
But once news are come out it will move 50k in few days hope will come.




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February 13, 2017, 09:13:18 AM
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Wow! I just know that today happens dump 29K satoshi, whether to continue?

Without any news from dev team price will continue to decline, no matter of FUD or not.
Mind set of investors is twisted now to "panic" that drop 41k>30k is panic but is not despair...
Price will slide down without any news for sure.
35k is reasonable for me.
But once news are come out it will move 50k in few days hope will come.





I partially agree with this.

There aren't any news, so we can't expect ICN to do amazingly well. I am honestly surprised by the strength of the community and support. Barely any news for months and the price is growing, which is amazing.
But without any new updates, the price will keep falling, which is only good, because those of us who are serious about this, can accumulate more tokens.
Eventually, the price will go up after some news and products are launched so no need to panic, no need to even get out from the chair. Just keep calm, keep accumulating and hodl. Yeh and ignore those troll cunts.
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February 13, 2017, 09:14:20 AM
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Why don´t the FUDlers get out of the thread and buy inflationary usage-rights for an open source protocol (YES, IT´S JUST A PROTOCOL, NO PLATFORM)  - called Melonport, to help Wallstreet Asset Management Companies in cutting their expenses?   Huh

Should make much more sense from a FUDlers perspective than buying dividend-paying company shares of two Index Funds + OFM platform + Ethereum Exchange!  Grin

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February 13, 2017, 09:18:23 AM
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Why don´t the FUDlers get out of the thread and buy inflationary usage-rights for an open source protocol (YES, IT´S JUST A PROTOCOL, NO PLATFORM)  - called Melonport, to help Wallstreet Asset Management Companies in cutting their expenses?   Huh

Should make much more sense from a FUDlers perspective than buying dividend-paying company shares of two Index Funds + OFM platform + Ethereum Exchange!  Grin

Not fudding here, but MelonPort does actually have a Platform, built with Ethereum smart contracts.
They released a working prototype few days ago: http://portal.melonport.com
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February 13, 2017, 09:22:56 AM
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Why don´t the FUDlers get out of the thread and buy inflationary usage-rights for an open source protocol (YES, IT´S JUST A PROTOCOL, NO PLATFORM)  - called Melonport, to help Wallstreet Asset Management Companies in cutting their expenses?   Huh

Should make much more sense from a FUDlers perspective than buying dividend-paying company shares of two Index Funds + OFM platform + Ethereum Exchange!  Grin

Not fudding here, but MelonPort does actually have a decentralized Platform.
They released a working prototype few days ago: http://portal.melonport.com

Except it only works with ERC20 tokens, so all the fiat and BTC is held by a centralized company anyways.

Also supply inflates by 312.5k to 625k MLN per year indefinitely, there are no dividends, no debit card, no liquidity, and platform won't be fully functional until 2019.

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February 13, 2017, 09:39:42 AM
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Iconomi on Techcrunch, ICN founder presented as one of experts in this topic, BITCHES!!!

https://techcrunch.com/2017/02/12/can-you-trust-crypto-token-crowdfunding/

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February 13, 2017, 09:43:28 AM
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Iconomi on Techcrunch, ICN founder presented as one of experts in this topic, BITCHES!!!

https://techcrunch.com/2017/02/12/can-you-trust-crypto-token-crowdfunding/


Mooon Incoming to ICN, very positive news and all fudsters can go fuck yourself for lies, Techcrunch says it all!!!

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February 13, 2017, 09:45:57 AM
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Iconomi on Techcrunch, ICN founder presented as one of experts in this topic, BITCHES!!!

https://techcrunch.com/2017/02/12/can-you-trust-crypto-token-crowdfunding/


Mooon Incoming to ICN, very positive news and all fudsters can go fuck yourself for lies, Techcrunch says it all!!!


Mooooonnnnnnnn!!!!

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February 13, 2017, 09:48:37 AM
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All fud lies debunked, we are going to moon: https://techcrunch.com/2017/02/12/can-you-trust-crypto-token-crowdfunding/

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February 13, 2017, 09:49:43 AM
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***US investors in the ICO will most likely file a lawsuit for getting lured by Iconomi team into investing in something that they cannot use***

I can believe that some crypto morons from US would want to sue ICONOMI if they could do it with McDonad and hot coffee. But there is a problem with that Iconomi is in Europe, US citizens have signed no agreement with them.
ICONOMI team wasn't even in US to promote ICONOMI they were in Germany and China...

If you buy something via aliexpess from China is your problem with executing warranty not US police Cheesy...
Same with ICONOMI it is not operating in US so US law have nothing to do with them.
ICN token is property not registered security. US law and their license are restricted that even Poloniex went away from NY... Get life man to get eth dividends you don't have to be registered anywhere US north Korea Russia doesnt matter Eth dividends matters Cheesy

...
As predicted... the big dump is just starting. Soon ICN will drop below ICO level.
...

If don't please commit suicide for full BS.
It won't go to ICO lvl man ^^ 30k is max deep you can get.
But ~35k flor is possible without any news.

PS: I am starting ignoring becouse i like good trols but not shit one.

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