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Well said ! But please don't forget that we have a working product and over 300 people here and on the slack that would do anything ( PR,.....) the second EK gives the green light !
I do love XEL. But I don't like unnecessary hype, which causes people to panic buy, then panic blame/sell. Best to be realistic and constructively critical. Working product? Let's not claim working product until: 1) it's actually launched 2) it's used to solve real problems Just having a working product is not enough, we also need a good portfolio of use cases / case studies. Answer me this: What is the main problem XEL could solve? (In its current about to be released form, not talking about speculation of what is possible down the road) What can Golem solve now with its hyped market cap ? Nothing ! So why are people buying it ? All based on speculations, right ?
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March 06, 2017, 08:35:49 AM |
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Well said ! But please don't forget that we have a working product and over 300 people here and on the slack that would do anything ( PR,.....) the second EK gives the green light !
I do love XEL. But I don't like unnecessary hype, which causes people to panic buy, then panic blame/sell. Best to be realistic and constructively critical. Working product? Let's not claim working product until: 1) it's actually launched 2) it's used to solve real problems Just having a working product is not enough, we also need a good portfolio of use cases / case studies. Answer me this: What is the main problem XEL could solve? (In its current about to be released form, not talking about speculation of what is possible down the road) i agree hype can cause some ppl react purely emotional and cause some economical damage, however imo hype (pump) is the best PR in cryptoworld. without it projects like xmr, dash, even ltc and btc would never get exposed to such wide userbase and get some kind of mass adoption. working product without exposure will stay under radar for long time, so long until something comes along and replace it!! so from my experience hype (pump) is necessary evil for project to get exposed and adopted. Problem that XEL solves? how about cheap computation power we all crave to have access to! although XEL devs don't like to promote it, elastic best selling point imo would be CPU/GPU mining/solving other cryptocurrencies.
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March 06, 2017, 09:01:27 AM |
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Well said ! But please don't forget that we have a working product and over 300 people here and on the slack that would do anything ( PR,.....) the second EK gives the green light !
I do love XEL. But I don't like unnecessary hype, which causes people to panic buy, then panic blame/sell. Best to be realistic and constructively critical. Working product? Let's not claim working product until: 1) it's actually launched 2) it's used to solve real problems Just having a working product is not enough, we also need a good portfolio of use cases / case studies. Answer me this: What is the main problem XEL could solve? (In its current about to be released form, not talking about speculation of what is possible down the road) i agree hype can cause some ppl react purely emotional and cause some economical damage, however imo hype (pump) is the best PR in cryptoworld. without it projects like xmr, dash, even ltc and btc would never get exposed to such wide userbase and get some kind of mass adoption. working product without exposure will stay under radar for long time, so long until something comes along and replace it!! so from my experience hype (pump) is necessary evil for project to get exposed and adopted. Problem that XEL solves? how about cheap computation power we all crave to have access to! although XEL devs don't like to promote it, elastic best selling point imo would be CPU/GPU mining/solving other cryptocurrencies. It would be good if EK would stop doing what ever it is he's doing and provide documented details of what the software is actually capable of, so those of us that want to launch a PR campaign can have the information to do so. As a community we're somewhat paralysed by the lack of information. This can't become a community project until the community has the information to act upon. I think that the "soldier" can't tell the "general" what is the best move to do . Probably EK and others have their reasons to not respond atm . Maybe they are even creating the documentation for Elastic . Keep patient guys , no need to rush things . We are close to the finish line .
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March 06, 2017, 12:43:15 PM |
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Elastic ICO overview (estimate): ICO List - [XEL] Elastic Project WTB Amount Prize User __any x,xxxx PM metamorphin (after Release) __any x,xxxx PM dranster __any x,xxxx PM BTCspace (after Release) __any x,xxxx PM provenceday __any x,xxxx PM bakedrice __any x,xxxx PM mr.coinzy (Buy with Head only) 10000 0,00002 PM miayama __any 0,00005 PM yangnazterp5021
WTS Amount Prize User 18881 0,000053 PM juras54 17500 0,0002 PM HomoHenning 50000 0,1 PM Evil-Knievel __any x,xxxx PM dranster
WTS with verification in the ICO List IcoNo Amount Prize User 241 57928,8268 x,xxxx PM cryptoheadd 286 34768,95853 x,xxxx PM cryptoheadd
More Infos here Elastic (XEL) Price Speculation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589333.0Do not buy any XEL from anyone! You'll get scammed. There is no way to buy XEL right now. Once again - do not buy any XEL, there is no guarantee that person who "sold" you XEL will not use private key before you.Donation for Service : 1MYgcVK59yE8t4DatYqJQGxBLdgZtu61bA
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March 06, 2017, 04:31:38 PM |
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Elastic ICO overview (estimate): ICO List - [XEL] Elastic Project WTB Amount Prize User __any x,xxxx PM metamorphin (after Release) __any x,xxxx PM dranster __any x,xxxx PM BTCspace (after Release) __any x,xxxx PM provenceday __any x,xxxx PM bakedrice __any x,xxxx PM mr.coinzy (Buy with Head only) 10000 0,00002 PM miayama __any 0,00005 PM yangnazterp5021
WTS Amount Prize User 18881 0,000053 PM juras54 17500 0,0002 PM HomoHenning 50000 0,1 PM Evil-Knievel __any x,xxxx PM dranster
WTS with verification in the ICO List IcoNo Amount Prize User 241 57928,8268 x,xxxx PM cryptoheadd 286 34768,95853 x,xxxx PM cryptoheadd
More Infos here Elastic (XEL) Price Speculation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589333.0Do not buy any XEL from anyone! You'll get scammed. There is no way to buy XEL right now. Once again - do not buy any XEL, there is no guarantee that person who "sold" you XEL will not use private key before you.Donation for Service : 1MYgcVK59yE8t4DatYqJQGxBLdgZtu61bAGood overview, thanks for that.
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March 09, 2017, 07:54:59 AM |
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What is the sence of this table if it is impossible to buy/sell any XEL? I think only dev can help to do deal today. But dev very busy... may be he can do it for some reward? WTB[/b] Amount Prize User __any x,xxxx PM metamorphin (after Release) __any x,xxxx PM dranster __any x,xxxx PM BTCspace (after Release) __any x,xxxx PM provenceday __any x,xxxx PM bakedrice __any x,xxxx PM mr.coinzy (Buy with Head only) 10000 0,00002 PM miayama __any 0,00005 PM yangnazterp5021
WTS Amount Prize User 18881 0,000053 PM juras54 17500 0,0002 PM HomoHenning 50000 0,1 PM Evil-Knievel __any x,xxxx PM dranster
WTS with verification in the ICO List IcoNo Amount Prize User 241 57928,8268 x,xxxx PM cryptoheadd 286 34768,95853 x,xxxx PM cryptoheadd
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March 09, 2017, 07:33:58 PM |
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What is the sence of this table if it is impossible to buy/sell any XEL? I think only dev can help to do deal today. But dev very busy... may be he can do it for some reward? WTB[/b] Amount Prize User __any x,xxxx PM metamorphin (after Release) __any x,xxxx PM dranster __any x,xxxx PM BTCspace (after Release) __any x,xxxx PM provenceday __any x,xxxx PM bakedrice __any x,xxxx PM mr.coinzy (Buy with Head only) 10000 0,00002 PM miayama __any 0,00005 PM yangnazterp5021
WTS Amount Prize User 18881 0,000053 PM juras54 17500 0,0002 PM HomoHenning 50000 0,1 PM Evil-Knievel __any x,xxxx PM dranster
WTS with verification in the ICO List IcoNo Amount Prize User 241 57928,8268 x,xxxx PM cryptoheadd 286 34768,95853 x,xxxx PM cryptoheadd
No Way! They're busy developing and not interested in your money. Just keep calm, save your money and wait for release of Mainnet if you want to buy. It shouldn't take to long any more.
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March 09, 2017, 07:45:27 PM |
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1 xel = 1 $
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March 09, 2017, 09:28:43 PM |
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1 xel = 1 $
XEL should to be in top 10 marketcap for that. It is not easy. More real top 20-30.
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March 10, 2017, 01:03:11 AM Last edit: March 10, 2017, 04:38:37 PM by drays |
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Well said ! But please don't forget that we have a working product and over 300 people here and on the slack that would do anything ( PR,.....) the second EK gives the green light !
I do love XEL. But I don't like unnecessary hype, which causes people to panic buy, then panic blame/sell. Best to be realistic and constructively critical. Working product? Let's not claim working product until: 1) it's actually launched 2) it's used to solve real problems Just having a working product is not enough, we also need a good portfolio of use cases / case studies. Answer me this: What is the main problem XEL could solve? (In its current about to be released form, not talking about speculation of what is possible down the road) i agree hype can cause some ppl react purely emotional and cause some economical damage, however imo hype (pump) is the best PR in cryptoworld. without it projects like xmr, dash, even ltc and btc would never get exposed to such wide userbase and get some kind of mass adoption. working product without exposure will stay under radar for long time, so long until something comes along and replace it!! so from my experience hype (pump) is necessary evil for project to get exposed and adopted. Problem that XEL solves? how about cheap computation power we all crave to have access to! although XEL devs don't like to promote it, elastic best selling point imo would be CPU/GPU mining/solving other cryptocurrencies. It would be good if EK would stop doing what ever it is he's doing and provide documented details of what the software is actually capable of, so those of us that want to launch a PR campaign can have the information to do so. As a community we're somewhat paralysed by the lack of information. This can't become a community project until the community has the information to act upon. I think that the "soldier" can't tell the "general" what is the best move to do . Probably EK and others have their reasons to not respond atm . Maybe they are even creating the documentation for Elastic . Keep patient guys , no need to rush things . We are close to the finish line . There are no "soldiers" and no "generals" in community projects like this. Everyone has equal voice, just some of the voices are more 'audible' due to the appreciation community has to specific person due to his prior contribution. But if some idea is correct, it is correct regardless of who actually did express it. Note EK has mentioned many times he does not want to head the project and is not going to neigher launch it, not make any management decisions by himslef. Because he thinks decentralized project should be... well... decentralized. Subjective comment here: not that I agree to EK's idea... As per my experience, a strong leadership is needed on any startup, for it to achieve something and move ahead. And anything more than 2-3 leaders will make it slowdown and stop (or fork) eventually. Anyone remembers the old good game called 'Civilization'..? What was the best governance type during the early stages? I'll remind you - it was dictatorship. Only after civilization (the 'project') reaches certain point, other governance types (like democracy) start to make sense, and are beneficial. Well, that's just a game, yes. However I've seen many evidences this is not just a game concept - as it was taken from the reality.
But of course, this is completely my own opinoin. IMHO at its best ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) EDIT: you may think the first part of my post contradicts to the second part... But it doesn't. The point is - there are no generals now. But it might be effective to have one IMHO. And keep him there until this project gets real traction.
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March 10, 2017, 02:36:10 AM |
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WTB 500000 XEL for 5 BTC. PM
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March 10, 2017, 05:40:46 AM |
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WTB 500000 XEL for 5 BTC. PM
Woah... hopefully nobody would sell at that price. Here's mine, just to bump your WTB: WTB 250000 XEL for 3 BTC and also WTS 30000 XEL for 3 BTC.
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March 10, 2017, 06:30:24 AM Last edit: March 10, 2017, 09:12:23 AM by Bgjjj2016 |
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WTB 500000 XEL for 5 BTC. PM
me too . I think there's a typo on your attractive offer. Off by couple Zeros. Haha ! For 500,000 XEL you need to save 495 more BTC. And we don't have layaway plan here , so please come back when you have enough funds . ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 10, 2017, 09:45:44 PM |
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WTB 500000 XEL for 5 BTC. PM
WTS 5 XEL for 5 BTC. PM
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March 10, 2017, 11:45:26 PM |
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WTB 500000 XEL for 5 BTC. PM
WTS 5 XEL for 5 BTC. PM Good one Bob ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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March 11, 2017, 01:00:03 PM Last edit: March 13, 2017, 12:25:41 PM by Limx Dev |
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ICO List - [XEL] Elastic Project WTB Amount Prize User __any x,xxxx PM metamorphin (after Release) __any x,xxxx PM dranster __any x,xxxx PM BTCspace (after Release) __any x,xxxx PM provenceday __any x,xxxx PM bakedrice __any x,xxxx PM mr.coinzy (Buy with Head only) 500000 0,00001 PM xxnwxf https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947718 250000 0,000012 PM cryptoboy.architect https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=283681 10000 0,00002 PM miayama __any 0,00005 PM yangnazterp5021
WTS Amount Prize User 18881 0,000053 PM juras54 17500 0,0002 PM HomoHenning 30000 0,0001 PM cryptoboy.architect https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=283681 50000 0,1 PM Evil-Knievel ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ 5 1 PM bobmarley650 ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138323 __any x,xxxx PM dranster
WTS with verification in the ICO List IcoNo Amount Prize User 241 57928,8268 x,xxxx PM cryptoheadd 286 34768,95853 x,xxxx PM cryptoheadd
Service: Post this template ADD WTB [Amount] [Prize] [USER] [Optional your Bitcointalk link] REMOVE WTB [Amount] [Prize] [USER] or REMOVE WTB @all ADD WTS [Amount] [Prize] [USER] [Optional your Bitcointalk link] REMOVE WTS [Amount] [Prize] [USER] or REMOVE WTB @all [Prize = BTC/Amount] More Infos here Elastic (XEL) Price Speculation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589333.0Do not buy any XEL from anyone! You'll get scammed. There is no way to buy XEL right now. Once again - do not buy any XEL, there is no guarantee that person who "sold" you XEL will not use private key before you.Donation for Service : 1MYgcVK59yE8t4DatYqJQGxBLdgZtu61bA
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March 13, 2017, 07:07:11 AM |
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Even if it costs $ 0.10, it's nice price.
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March 16, 2017, 02:57:33 PM |
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The price speculation for this is getting serious huh? $1, giving Elastic a $100 million dollar valuation.
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March 16, 2017, 03:30:45 PM |
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The price speculation for this is getting serious huh? $1, giving Elastic a $100 million dollar valuation.
Risk seems to be on big time in crypto space... Yup, risk is on. Greed is on. Fear is off.
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March 16, 2017, 07:14:43 PM |
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1$ is a more realistic suitable price in the medium term in my opinion.
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