Account farming. Allowed?

[rizzlarolla]

I received an email...
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641334 HilbillyFred
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642825 rektDude
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642849 Legasean
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642933 Ybalevia
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So yes, you are exactly right. They are the same person - the same farmer.
And he does have hundreds more accounts (listed p10) and many more (not yet listed)

And another from same author,
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I found a new alt of what I believe belongs to the person I mentioned earlier.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=656820 Alauria

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656820 Alauria, correct, same farmer, listed on main list, p10!
And another email, same author,
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Some more.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=642924 Adrayrd
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=641387 Galiatram
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=605302 Skaven
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651671 Hedrilin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=648404 DixieCrayon
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=197481 phreaky

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642924 Adrayrd, yup, got in reply post to email. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16669727#msg16669727 TBA to main list.
641387 Galiatram, yup, on main list, p10!
605302 Skaven, yup, got that account here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16592543#msg16592543 TBA to main list.
651671 Hedrilin, yup, on main list, p10!
648404 DixieCrayon, yup, on main list, p10!

They are all the same farmer. You are not checking my list! (or are you!)

197481 phreaky, old account. Joined Dec 20 2013, Posted once in 2014, then probably sold or hacked, started posting again April 13 2015.
Slowly ranked up in 2015, then joins seconds trade sig campaign Jan 2016 then starts spamming the forum.
All the traits of the farmer. This account was sold to or hacked by the farmer, i strongly suspect. Not yet proven.

Interesting find. I'm always ready to listen to queries. Keep me posted.
But please check the main list to aid your research and save me time checking!

[Lauda]

All that were posted above are banned, so you can remove them from the compilation or separate it into a *banned* list.

[rizzlarolla]

All that were posted above are banned, so you can remove them from the compilation or separate it into a *banned* list.

Ok, few questions.

You mean like "all 7 accounts" listed in my post above are banned?
Banned just now?
Why?

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vvv ok, thanks Lauda. vvv

[Lauda]

Ok, few questions.

You mean like "all 7 accounts" listed in my post above are banned?

Yes.

Banned just now?
Why?

Not right now, they were banned prior to your post I believe and were part of a investigation of the quoted farmers. BadBear may or may not give you more information on that.

[rizzlarolla]

All that were posted above are banned, so you can remove them from the compilation or separate it into a *banned* list.

Ahh..

I was about to add as banned to my main list at your (good) suggestion, but now realise these 7 are from different lists.
A compilation of farmed accounts, spotter as "the same owner" by a concerned forum member
Not a block of consecutive accounts. Not a single days registrations. (they are the same farmer, but...)
I don't really want to start marking as banned one by one. Not yet anyway.

I will wait and see if BadBear turns up here in the next day or two to thank me and supply the spreadsheets i requested with info on the investigation of the quoted farmers, maybe a strategy! Maybe BadBear will post a new list of farmed accounts (with evidences) he has found!

 

[rizzlarolla]

Look at these 2 farmed accounts, posting spam one after the other, almost identical, same lay out, i thought it was copy paste for a minute!
Both on my main list, and on the same sub list, registered 90 minutes apart, nov 19 2015. part of 8 accounts in sub list.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638032.msg16685699#msg16685699

I will never use a bot for my trades because i think that i can do it better thatn the bots you know when i deal with the bitcoin i know the price every second also
when
he is going to change so i never use bots becuase i am fast enough.

I will never use a bot for the trades becuase i know for sure that allot of people will not be happy with it you know and that is not good when you use bots you
have to
trust the bot and when you cant you wont be able to use him.

And here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1615202.msg16685667#msg16685667
and here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1604466.msg16685585#msg16685585
...and there are many others.

(Jeez, 3 more threads overrun with farmed accounts)

[Timelord2067]

OK, am home now - will be transferring the relevant details to the other thread over the next hour or two.  If this message disappears, it means I have finished.  Thanks for rea^^NO CARRIER

(Little BBS Joke there people)...

[BadBear]

I will wait and see if BadBear turns up here in the next day or two to thank me and supply the spreadsheets i requested with info on the investigation of the quoted farmers, maybe a strategy! Maybe BadBear will post a new list of farmed accounts (with evidences) he has found!

I don't share information like that. It just gives them more information on what to avoid, and what not to do. They read this board too.

[TwitchySeal]

I will wait and see if BadBear turns up here in the next day or two to thank me and supply the spreadsheets i requested with info on the investigation of the quoted farmers, maybe a strategy! Maybe BadBear will post a new list of farmed accounts (with evidences) he has found!

I don't share information like that. It just gives them more information on what to avoid, and what not to do. They read this board too.

Why not share it just with the people that have proven they would use it for good. (like rizzlarolla)

[BadBear]

Wouldn't be helpful if I did, it's mostly private information he can't access anyway. I can't help with the spreadsheet.

Not really a fan of mass banning accounts based solely on a pattern. It's a good starting point/correlation though, I've banned a few thus far (couple hundred total).

[TwitchySeal]

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Not really a fan of mass banning accounts based solely on a pattern.
-snip-

Why not?

Is account farming(.) Allowed?

(sorry if this has been answered already - and I'm not trying to be a smart ass here)

[Wendigo]

-snip-
Not really a fan of mass banning accounts based solely on a pattern.
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Why not?

Is account farming(.) Allowed?

(sorry if this has been answered already - and I'm not trying to be a smart ass here)

Multi accounts are allowed so by design account farming on multiple accounts is allowed, no? It's what people do with these accounts that warrants a ban or not. But accounts are evaluated from a pretty much subjective point of view so what appears a bannable offense to me might not be the same for you.

I have no understanding of modding forums so don't listen to what I am saying 

[TwitchySeal]

-snip-
Not really a fan of mass banning accounts based solely on a pattern.
-snip-

Why not?

Is account farming(.) Allowed?

(sorry if this has been answered already - and I'm not trying to be a smart ass here)

Multi accounts are allowed so by design account farming on multiple accounts is allowed, no? It's what people do with these accounts that warrants a ban or not. But accounts are evaluated from a pretty much subjective point of view so what appears a bannable offense to me might not be the same for you.

I have no understanding of modding forums so don't listen to what I am saying 

Yeah, from Badbears responses you may be right.  It's technically not against the rules.

But there's obviously a big difference between people using multiple accounts to post on the forum and people creating hundreds or thousands of accounts to sell to other people.

Making farmed accounts worth less should really be the goal ultimately, banning bunches of accounts might be annoying for the farmer, but I don't think it will affect their prices much.  Would probably be better to get a list, keep it private and let them know 20 random accounts were getting banned off the list every day.

[rizzlarolla]

Ok, few questions.
You mean like "all 7 accounts" listed in my post above are banned?

Yes.

Lauda,
Were only those 7 accounts banned together, or were they part of a bigger group banned at that time?

I will wait and see if BadBear turns up here in the next day or two to thank me and supply the spreadsheets i requested with info on the investigation of the quoted farmers, maybe a strategy! Maybe BadBear will post a new list of farmed accounts (with evidences) he has found!

I don't share information like that. It just gives them more information on what to avoid, and what not to do. They read this board too.

Bit lame.

No info, no spreadsheets, no list, no thanks, no help.

They have been untouched for a year. How long were you going to leave it?
lol, give them info like don't create long lists of accounts with names starting A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,J,K,L,...
or don't create long lists of accounts with names starting A,B,C,D,A,B,C,D...

So blatant. They are not hidden.
it is hard to be random, bitcoiners know that? and this farmer failed spectacularly.

To be random would take real time and effort from the farmer, likely making his operation unprofitable.

[rizzlarolla]

people that have proven they would use it for good. (like rizzlarolla)

thanks Twitchyseal.

"there's obviously a big difference between people using multiple accounts to post on the forum and people creating hundreds or thousands of accounts "
Exactly.

"It's technically not against the rules."
There is no specific "farmer" rule, but there are other rules. No spam. No low quality posts.
How is it possible to own and post with "hundreds" of accounts and not be low quality spam!
Mods will judge each as an individual!

There is another rule. If 1 account is banned, all his alts are also banned.
"it is not the account, it is the farmer person.

[rizzlarolla]

OK, am home now - will be transferring the relevant details to the other thread over the next hour or two.  If this message disappears, it means I have finished.  Thanks for rea^^NO CARRIER

(Little BBS Joke there people)...

Please leave your posts, and any others you move as links to your thread. Funny how these things can come back together.

That joke... clean over my head. 

[Timelord2067]

I will wait and see if BadBear turns up here in the next day or two to thank me and supply the spreadsheets i requested with info on the investigation of the quoted farmers, maybe a strategy! Maybe BadBear will post a new list of farmed accounts (with evidences) he has found!

I don't share information like that. It just gives them more information on what to avoid, and what not to do. They read this board too.

Why not share it just with the people that have proven they would use it for good. (like rizzlarolla)

That's what's know as a back-handed complement...

[Timelord2067]

OK, am home now - will be transferring the relevant details to the other thread over the next hour or two.  If this message disappears, it means I have finished.  Thanks for rea^^NO CARRIER

(Little BBS Joke there people)...

Please leave your posts, and any others you move as links to your thread. Funny how these things can come back together.

That joke... clean over my head.  

With BBS' being on dial up, the flat-mate would trip over the phone cord and you would loose the connection - meanwhile on your PC's screen if you were using TELIX or BLUE-WAVE or similar, you'd get ^^NO CARRIER to signify you'd lost the connection.

(Kids these days don't know anything...)      

[rizzlarolla]

I believe these 2 new threads,
Wings Spammers             https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1663854.0
Russian Political Posters    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666048.0

are explained by this post, the mr green list.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16405201#msg16405201

A (likely) new farmer. Russian, mainly in the Wings campaign, or Ark campaign, or ranking up.
There is also a (likely) new Chinese farmer.
(i strangely have "some" evidence to link both these farmers, and our original farmer, not conclusive)
My linked post connected accounts created on June 5 and 6, 2016.
I have found others, Russian farmed Wings sig accounts, from June 5, (yet to post)
and even more Russian farmed Wings sig accounts, and Chinese farmed accounts on June 6 (yet to post)

I have seen, and started to compile many new lists involving above farmer(s) creating accounts on many days in June 2016.
Not having any help off theymos or any admin here, i have no spreadsheets for this period. It's like working blind, thanks guys.

I know this farmer carries on after June. (i also know it carries on prior to June, back to my jan lists)

I have found a list for as recently as October 10, 2016. Russian farmed accounts, too new to be in Wings sig?
I'm not linking them here and now, but as evidence for any interested readers that farming still goes on unchecked, here are some of those farmed u=# from October 10, 2016

907392
907397
907399
907400
907401
907402
907405
907406

[rizzlarolla]

Hey there ,  i saw my account is on the Farmed list and i back read for that reason on this thread i will be honest no matter if i will kick in my signature campaign .
I will not mention my main account for this reason(Not Enrolled in the same campaign signature)
I do buying and selling of accounts long time ago i used my main account on that transactions and now i use this account For alternative on my main account .
I bought some accounts and i have a Proof that i bought this account long time ago and i am willing to help and give to whom Username/Account i bought it as most of his accounts i saw are being sold from now and then.

I want to clarify that i am not a spammer and a farmer ,i am not the master of those created accounts.

0k, Any help is welcome. please tell your story!