Account farming. Allowed?

[Timelord2067]

This user:

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Name: 	Next BillG u=639394 http://archive.is/hWxZ8
Posts: 	252
Activity: 	252
Position: 	Sr. Member
Date Registered: 	08 November 2015, 21:37:11
Last Active: 	28 October 2016, 23:25:20

passed my desk on an unrelated investigation a week ago (still underway)

While this user:

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Name: 	Republic of Coin u=628183 http://archive.is/WtRDy
Posts: 	159
Activity: 	159
Position: 	Full Member
Date Registered: 	02 November 2015, 20:27:31
Last Active: 	Today at 03:26:03

Is new to me, however, have a look at their under one week apart in registering. (some 70 mins time difference six days apart)

Other incidents occurring around this same time:

03 September 2015, 19:23:54 Date Registered:    langedwig u=551592 http://archive.is/R8VC4 (Alaki Alt)
03 September 2015, 19:31:35 Date Registered:    toffeelive u=551601 http://archive.is/bdyTU (Alaki Alt)

09 September 2015, 21:26:38 Date Registered:    The_prodigy u=553420 http://archive.is/DYSll (Alaki Alt)
19 September 2015, 12:46:06 Date Registered:    TrueHari u=555907 http://archive.is/5HwL5 (Alaki Alt)

01 November 2015, 09:51:21 Last actual post by AccTraderALT http://archive.is/35bRu#selection-353.5-353.35

04 November 2015 Quickseller, shorena  and dogie all give monbux1 u=532457 and monbux2 u=532458 negative trust "Imposter" etc

06 November 2015, 14:37:13 Date Registered:    Hariom u=635671 http://archive.is/lEa0Q (Alaki Alt)
21 November 2015, 05:40:22 Date Registered:    kotones u=658596 http://archive.is/AyaeU (Alaki Alt)

These are similar:

Next BillG https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639394;sa=statPanel http://archive.is/qTieo
Republic of Coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628183;sa=statPanel http://archive.is/VJVHd

with an almost identical trough in the same hour nine of the archived version.

[Timelord2067]

Republic of Coin is selling *just* junior member accounts http://archive.is/atFEy

while Next BillG *was* selling Senior Member accounts and has dropped to selling *just*  Full member accounts over the last 30 posts. http://archive.is/bwkFf

[rizzlarolla]

This user: Next BillG u=639394
passed my desk on an unrelated investigation a week ago (still underway)

Connected to other accounts here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16155093#msg16155093

While this user: Republic of Coin u=628183
Is new to me, however, have a look at their under one week apart in registering. (some 70 mins time difference six days apart)

And new to me.

Other incidents occurring around this same time:
03 September 2015, 19:23:54 Date Registered:    langedwig u=551592 http://archive.is/R8VC4 (Alaki Alt)
03 September 2015, 19:31:35 Date Registered:    toffeelive u=551601 http://archive.is/bdyTU (Alaki Alt)

sept 3 2015. 10.22am to 10.59am.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551591  speakreclusive
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551592  langedwig              .....  above
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551594  barrowfiller
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551596  brilliantstylish
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551601  toffeelive                .....  above
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551602  carpenterprocesses
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551605  recitestores
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551606  storyrelativity          .....  only active account
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551607  maxwellapple
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551608  mehclasses

These are similar:
Next BillG https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639394;sa=statPanel http://archive.is/qTieo
Republic of Coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628183;sa=statPanel http://archive.is/VJVHd
with an almost identical trough in the same hour nine of the archived version.

Indeed, very  similar.
I think it is clear above accounts are connected to those i listed (wintermeasures list) for sept 7, 10.22am, 4 days later to the minute!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16658179#msg16658179
All their names are similarly long 2 word joined. All lower case, no gaps or numbers.
I have noted their post history's.

then clearly connected to sept 8 list which includes Next BillG. (see first link)
and the next days list, and the next, and on and on...

[rizzlarolla]

That's my story .I bought some accounts before to sell and i think all of those accounts are in your farmed list .
The last account that i bought is from a different account farmer and i saw the account he use to sell those accounts until now.

This is the first account farmer ,
But he is wise enough as i conclude that the accounts that i bought have no similar usernames with his other accounts .
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628183 Republic of Coin

This is the second farmer ,
On my observation his account are likely some of the usernames on the list .
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=639394  Next BillG
vurasasog,vasrasus,vatusasid etc that starts with that same words and a jumbled vowels.

Thanks for posting,

they are likely the same farmer. these "seller" accounts are liable to neg trust, and are disposable.
Next BillG account sells accounts with similar names you say, vurasasog,vasrasus,vatusasid, yet was created on a unsimular name list himself.
(see link to Next BillG above post)

the same farmer changing his "account naming style" as cover.
first long double barrel names, then any name, then similar names vurasasog,vasrasus,vatusasid, then alphabet names. our farmer is OCD.
it fooled admin and the mods. it don't fool me.

[rizzlarolla]

Ok, few questions.
You mean like "all 7 accounts" listed in my post above are banned?

Yes.

Lauda,
Were only those 7 accounts banned together, or were they part of a bigger group banned at that time?

bump.

[Lauda]

Lauda,
Were only those 7 accounts banned together, or were they part of a bigger group banned at that time?

bump.

I missed this question before. Yes, the accounts were part of a larger group I believe, but I do not have access to the specific information regarding this. BadBear/Cyrus could tell you more, should they choose to.

[Timelord2067]

Republic of Coin is selling *just* junior member accounts http://archive.is/atFEy

while Next BillG *was* selling Senior Member accounts and has dropped to selling *just*  Full member accounts over the last 30 posts. http://archive.is/bwkFf

These have got to be connected to each-other (even if they aren't connected to the two above)

(and the blah is where I cut the rest of the quote out)

POTENTIAL HERO MEMBER  FOR AUCTION!

(blah)

Auction will end 4 hours after the last valid bid! I have the right to end this auction at any time for any reason.

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Name: 	jooj u=913200 http://archive.is/aXSNX
Posts: 	12
Activity: 	12
Position: 	Newbie
Date Registered: 	27 October 2016, 17:31:46
Bitcoin address: 	16AvVmg6JWHmVsDe4UCYNCHH5TRPX8A9jd

1 Member Account & 2 Full Member Account Up For Auction!!

(blah)

I have the right to end this auction at any time for any reason, however, I will honor all winning bids.  Good luck.

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Name: 	Feedbacker u=675971 http://archive.is/9CuIU
Posts: 	12
Activity: 	12
Position: 	Newbie
Date Registered: 	04 December 2015, 11:11:25
Bitcoin address: 	1KGzuhpz4mx4goUFHCQ69YKyyfcstZmrcr

Look at the time codes for their posts from the 27th of October - One posts in the AM, the other PM, then after a few days, they both swap.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=913200;sa=showPosts http://archive.is/H35yT (Hero Accounts)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675971;sa=showPosts http://archive.is/tT2ha (Member Accounts)

Hour twelve and seventeen have posts in archived versions, but otherwise, not even close to being identical.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=913200;sa=statPanel http://archive.is/KI6fT

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675971;sa=statPanel http://archive.is/MOqhh

[rizzlarolla]

Interesting list, bit random like the "wintermeasures" list. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16155093#msg16155093


Sept 12 2015.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554155  Yagami Iori                   sep 12  jul       28     aug 13, 24, sep 3x...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554158  José Arcadio Buendía     sep 12  jul 14, 28     aug 13, 24, sep 4x...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554162  Johann Sebastian Bach  sep 12  jul 14, 28     aug 13, 24, sep 5x...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554165  South Park                    sep 12  jul 14, 28     aug 13, 24, sep 5...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554169  carriagehoodlum                                           mar 27, apr 12, 26,  mar 10, 19,   jun 14
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554170  finishedgrey             jan 5,    feb 16,     mar 19x6 .....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554172  fieldswealthy            jan 5, 18              mar 26,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554174  fizzling                                     dec 8, 21, 24,                       jan 4x....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554176  andesite                                   nov 9, 20, 21, 26,  dec 7, 15....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554178  miscreantskua                                              mar 27, apr      26,  mar 10, 19,      jun 13
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554180  technologyevents                                          mar 27, apr 12, 26,  mar 10, 20,      jun 13
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554184  macedoniantable                                           mar 27, apr 12, 26,  mar 10, 20x2,  jun 14

posting mar 27, apr 12, 26,  mar 10, 20x2,  jun 14, - as used by 4 accounts above is identical to "wintermeasures" & co.

fizzling                               dec 8,     21, 24,       jan 4x....                         (above, is the same as ...)
fernswift         nov 9,10,26  dec 8,16,21,24,        jan 4, 5x17..                    (wintermeasures rota)
clangtrump      nov 4,          dec 8,     21,24,        jan 4,    7x2,  16, 22        (wintermeasures rota)

i did not list first posts for "langedwig" & co, (couple posts above) but they mostly first posted jan 4 or 5, then 18,  (after registering sept 3)
same as finishedgrey and fieldswealthy above, and patterdom and bleachedno on "wintermeasures" list.

all the same farmer.

[hedgy73]

I'd appreciate it if my name was taken off this list.

I only have 1 account and hate account farming in any way, shape or form .

[minifrij]

I'd appreciate it if my name was taken off this list.
I only have 1 account and hate account farming in any way, shape or form .

From what I can see in the thread, no one is accusing you of account farming.
The list that you (and I) are on is DannyHamilton's - and by extension AGD's - ignore list. This is because every user wearing a paid signature was added to this list, regardless of post quality. If you want to be removed, you should contact Danny and AGD; this isn't the right place.

[hedgy73]

I'd appreciate it if my name was taken off this list.
I only have 1 account and hate account farming in any way, shape or form .

From what I can see in the thread, no one is accusing you of account farming.
The list that you (and I) are on is DannyHamilton's - and by extension AGD's - ignore list. This is because every user wearing a paid signature was added to this list, regardless of post quality. If you want to be removed, you should contact Danny and AGD; this isn't the right place.

Ok thanks for the info much appreciated .

I thought I'd been tagged for account farming in which case I do not.

[Timelord2067]

I'd appreciate it if my name was taken off this list.
I only have 1 account and hate account farming in any way, shape or form .

From what I can see in the thread, no one is accusing you of account farming.
The list that you (and I) are on is DannyHamilton's - and by extension AGD's - ignore list. This is because every user wearing a paid signature was added to this list, regardless of post quality. If you want to be removed, you should contact Danny and AGD; this isn't the right place.

Ok thanks for the info much appreciated .

I thought I'd been tagged for account farming in which case I do not.

You might be thinking of how a few pages back a Troll posted a rather extensive list of UID's on DannyHamilton's ignore list (with said Troll's own subset added in for good measure)...

[rizzlarolla]

I thought I'd been tagged for account farming in which case I do not.

you understand now you are not on the farmed list.

I looked at your post history anyway, just to be sure, and on the first page was a link to a (unproven) scam accusation against Xenophoto.
Which led me to post below, thanks, funny how these things happen!

I am wondering on this accounts why they are still on sign campaigns or some of this accounts are being sold to other users.
What will happen on them ?

Sure you are.

I want to tidy up the bbc.spammer list a little more. (***bbc. spammer list)

Dec 1. 10.00am.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672152  AlphaSun (188) ***
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672154  Bepesand (99)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=672155  Cacaparg (52)

Dec 3. 9.30am
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675418  EssentialCoin (29)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675421  Fatanut (978)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=675425  Gotumoot (25)

Dec 4. 8.50am
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676080  Hatuferu (2022)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676082  Julahid (55)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=676083  Kewatia (167) ***

9 famed accounts, 3600 spam posts.

So, how do you fit in?

Nov 30, 9.30 am
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=670721  Tagcibat (17)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=670726  Viyamore (817)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=670737  Watjila (23)

Lets look at your post history,
Viyamore   nov 30,  dec 10, 21,  jan 2, 14, 27,  feb 8,

Exactly the same as Bepesand and Fatanut.
Farmed in 3's, accounts created same time consecutive days, posted in rota.

Looks to me I may have missed some accounts here. Alphabet list missing a few letters?
Viyamore - you are a part of this mass farming.

I thought the alphabet list above, created over days, was missing a session. X,Y and Z were missing. Not any longer.

Nov 30 1.00pm
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671028  Xenophoto (1600)    nov 30,   dec  9, 20,   jan  1, 12, 26,   feb 7, 20
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671040  YellowMoon (14)      nov 30,   dec 10, 21,   jan 2, 14, 27,   feb 8, 21,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=671046  Zooplus (2528)        nov 30,   dec 11, 22,   jan     15, 28,   feb 9, 22

Identical posting rota as Viyamore  (and others) - see quote.
more big names here - big spammers anyway. 3 accounts, well over 4000 posts.

AlphaSun, Fatanut, Hatuferu, Xenophoto, Zooplus. All farmed accounts posing as different people.
3 goals -  sig spam, sell or scam.

[TwitchySeal]

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[Yohji Yamamoto]

I believe these 2 new threads,
Wings Spammers             https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1663854.0
Russian Political Posters    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666048.0

are explained by this post, the mr green list.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16405201#msg16405201

A (likely) new farmer. Russian, mainly in the Wings campaign, or Ark campaign, or ranking up.
There is also a (likely) new Chinese farmer.
(i strangely have "some" evidence to link both these farmers, and our original farmer, not conclusive)
My linked post connected accounts created on June 5 and 6, 2016.
I have found others, Russian farmed Wings sig accounts, from June 5, (yet to post)
and even more Russian farmed Wings sig accounts, and Chinese farmed accounts on June 6 (yet to post)

I have seen, and started to compile many new lists involving above farmer(s) creating accounts on many days in June 2016.
Not having any help off theymos or any admin here, i have no spreadsheets for this period. It's like working blind, thanks guys.

I know this farmer carries on after June. (i also know it carries on prior to June, back to my jan lists)

I have found a list for as recently as October 10, 2016. Russian farmed accounts, too new to be in Wings sig?
I'm not linking them here and now, but as evidence for any interested readers that farming still goes on unchecked, here are some of those farmed u=# from October 10, 2016

907392
907397
907399
907400
907401
907402
907405
907406

No one can compare Chinese farmers, each of te farmer has more than 30 accounts, you can google it for further topics.

[Timelord2067]

Identical posting rota as Viyamore  (and others) - see quote.
more big names here - big spammers anyway. 3 accounts, well over 4000 posts.

AlphaSun, Fatanut, Hatuferu, Xenophoto, Zooplus. All farmed accounts posing as different people.
3 goals -  sig spam, sell or scam.

I actually bought this account last april 26, 2016  from Republic of Coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628183 including that 3 accounts( using my main account) and been sold before.

Hatuferu
Zooplus
Fatanut

And

Quintilleio

That last one doesn't exist with that spelling, the closest I can find is

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Name: 	quintilio
Posts: 	11
Activity: 	11
Position: 	Newbie
Date Registered: 	26 April 2014, 09:33:39
Last Active: 	22 September 2016, 01:46:56

Bitcoin address: 	1CEDdST2sFSygBMgHo97kjTUUgYeQUtyPu

[rizzlarolla]

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Thanks for that.

i have a Proof that i bought this account long time ago and i am willing to help...

I actually bought this account last april 26, 2016  from Republic of Coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628183 including that 3 accounts( using my main account) and been sold before.

Hatuferu Zooplus Fatanut And Quintilleio

Would you share that proof of purchase date for Viyamore account?
I don't understand "including 3 accounts", you then list 4.

[Timelord2067]

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Thanks for that.

i have a Proof that i bought this account long time ago and i am willing to help...

I actually bought this account last april 26, 2016  from Republic of Coin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=628183 including that 3 accounts( using my main account) and been sold before.

Hatuferu Zooplus Fatanut And Quintilleio

Would you share that proof of purchase date for Viyamore account?
I don't understand "including 3 accounts", you then list 4.

I've had Fatanut PM me overnight - the usual sob story that my Neutral feed back on the four Trust walls will affect their ability to trade.

This UID has been bought and sold a number of times, you should do due diligence if considering trading as it may not be with the same person you previously did business with.

So, I put together the list of Alts

This is a farmed account.  The current owner of this account Viyamore u=670726 claims there has only been one owner since it was farmed.

Accounts connected:

Viyamore u=670726 Zooplus u=671046 Fatanut u=675421 Hatuferu u=676080 quintiilieo u=715575

At a guess all five are bought accounts which means we're not actually dealing with the true owner of these accounts, so we don't know how trust worthy this person really is and perhaps they are just offering up ones that have been noticed to take our attention away from other UID's.

I've had from time to time the same old sob story that my neutral trust (first one above) is somehow hurting these UID's ability to trade, so I'll open it up to discussion, should I water down what I've written?  I can't keep patrolling these famed accounts to re-flag in future - what wording might be ok?

[TwitchySeal]

I'm going to try and remember to start adding something like "Don't buy this account, This feedback is permanent"

[Timelord2067]

I'm going to try and remember to start adding something like "Don't buy this account, This feedback is permanent"

I was contacted by Alanay to remove negative trust concerning a link to morocco.man - their logic was correct, and I amended from negative to neutral:

Alanay -2: -1 / +0   2016-07-05   0.00000000   Reference   I misread a transaction and therefore incorrectly said that Alanay was an Alt of morocco.man - There is no evidence that connects Alanay to any other BTC user.

Alanay then went out and scammed someone.

Johny Depp 0: -0 / +0   2016-10-21   0.00000000   Reference   Scammer. Just caught him red handed. Please check reference.
micher143 0: -0 / +0   2016-10-18   0.00000000      i think with its post it is clearly that she is a scammer
Lacballs 0: -0 / +0   2016-10-17   0.00800000      Scammer
csmcanarney 20: -0 / +2   2016-10-16   0.00000000      admitted to defrauding players on his site loli.center
MartinL 0: -0 / +1   2016-10-16   0.00000000   Reference   sockpuppet of Loli.Center (909512), who admitted to defrauding players on his site

Which is why I can up with / amended someone elses text to read what I posted earlier.

Fatanut is now PMing me to say they aren't an Alt of the other ones...  (which could explain the three names / four posted earlier)