Account farming. Allowed?

[rizzlarolla]

Moved over from Known alts - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.1200

Edit: I need information of:
snip...
9: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897925
10: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898516
11: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898511
12: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898519
13: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898526
14: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898535
15: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898539
16: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898545
17: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898551
18: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898570
19: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898574
20: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898578


I am 95% sure these are farmed and alt of same person trying to cheat my campaign here:

but I need some solid proof ...snip

Any fool can see they are farmed by the same (russian?) owner.

if you order the accounts in ascending order,
(preferably copy paste account user name on end of each for ease of use, as done in thread linked below)  
and post here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.0
i will be happy to look for evidence.

Of possible interest/connection,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1663854.msg16834962#msg16834962
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16732004#msg16732004

Show us your proof, as so far I am not a fool.

ok, as  jamalaezaz has not bothered to come to the farmer thread to enquire about farmed accounts i shall post here.
hope you dopn't mind this once!

i have snipped  jamalaezaz's list down to accounts created on September 12 2016 to simplify my explanation/evidence.
(oh, i have included 1 account created Sept 10, to show connection between days registered!)

i find it usefull to include account names, often gives a further clue. Also easier to familiarise.
total post count included in ( )
(i have put 11 and 10 in u=order)

Already we can see familiar names, even 2 days apart. Badboy[ BTC] and [ BTC]Girl.
Also seems partial to "4", Myra4, Vovka4, Grin4, even Do4a.
Look at the post histoty,

sept 10
9: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897925 Badboy[ BTC]           sep 10x9, 11, 13x6, 14x4, 20x5, 21x.....

sept 12
11: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898511 [ BTC]Girl (97)       sep 12,    13x5, 14x4, 17, 18, 20, 21x4, 22x5...
10: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898516 Myra4 (63)            sep         13x3, 14x4, 17,            21x4, 22x3....
12: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898519 Do4a (47)             sep 12,    13x4, 14x5,                           22x2....  
13: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898526 Vovka4 (9)            sep 12x2, 13x2, 14x5 - end
14: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898535 Toropen (17)         sep 12,    13x2, 14x11                                   25x2...
15: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898539 DahonPao (10)      sep 12,    13x2, 14x6                                                  oct 15..
16: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898545 Grin4  (8              sep12,     13x2, 14x5 - end
17: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898551 Nazarov (9)          sep 12,     13x2, 14x6 - end
18: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898570 Noizebtc (6)          sep 12,    13x2, 14x2, 18 - end
19: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898574 Garryk (6)            sep 12,     13x2,                                                          nov 1..
20: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898578 prostoFILIA (5)     sep 12,     13x2 ,                                                         nov 12..

Not much to connect as history's are short. some only 5 or 6 posts, but there is a pattern there.
Lets look in more detail. they all post at least twice on sep 13, some more than twice.
Lets see how random they made these posts.

sept 10 registration, (edit, now added 6,7,8, the "tea break 3")
6:   u=897862 BitmarkInvest      13x8,                                                          -     (post1,2,3,4)    12.18,  12.31, 12.39, 12.53
7:   u=897919 Dim4ik                13x4, @ 9.54 am,  and                (post 4)      -    (post 1,2,3)      12.19,  12.28,           12.55
8:   u=897923 Maryshka91         13x2, @ 9.51 am,  and (8.59 am)
9:   u=897925 Badboy[ BTC]      13x6, @ 9.49 am,  and 10.32 am (post 5+6)   -    (post 1,2,3,4)   12.25,  12.34, 12.40, 12.57
sept 12 registration,                                                                              
10: u=898516 [ BTC]Girl            13x5, @ 9.47 am,  and 10.31 am (post 4+5)   -    (post 1,2,3)                 12.33, 12.41, 12.58,
11: u=898511 Myra4                 13x3, @ 9.44 am,  and 10.26 am (post 2+3)   -    (post 1)                       12.37,
12: u=898519 Do4a                  13x4, @ 9.42 am,  and 10.23 am (post 3+4)    -    (post 1,2)                              12.45,   1.01
13: u=898526 Vovka4               13x2, @ 9.39 am,  and 10.21 am
14: u=898535 Toropen              13x2, @ 9.34 am,  and 10.17 am
15: u=898539 DahonPao           13x2, @ 9.32 am,  and 10.15 am
16: u=898545 Grin4                 13x2, @ 9.31 am,  and 10.13 am
17: u=898551 Nazarov             13x2, @ 9.29 am,  and 10.09 am
18: u=898570 Noizebtc             13x2, @ 9.26 am,  and 10.05 am
19: u=898574 Garryk               13x2, @ 9.24 am,  and 10.02 am
20: u=898578 prostoFILIA        13x2, @ 9.21 am,  and 10.00 am

Not random at all. Posting rota for 13th sept started at bottom of list and worked up, even running through accounts created different days.
28 minutes to do the morning post rota, 9.21 - 9.49, quick cup of tea (or actually post  other accounts from 10 sep - edit, now added, leaving only 5 min for tea) then 32 minutes to post all again!
Is that conclusive enough? (answer is yes!)

(i have put a gap in [ BTC]Girl/boy names to stop it displaying as BTCgirl/boy!)

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vvv ok, np.
could you add link to that spreadsheet for ref/ease. i am about to add a couple more of your list, (the posts i said he made during tea break!)
6: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897862  BitmarkInvest (85)
7: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897919  Dim4ik (73)           ...another "4"
8: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897923  Maryshka91 (77)
check back later - done.

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[jamalaezaz]

thanks rizzlarola..

I request you to take a look at the spreadsheet of those twitter and facebook bounties from where I got these. you'll surely see some more interesting things. I would submit all but lack of free time. these shit accounts and their spammy PMs already took me 4 hours to collect and tick their screen shots.

[bbc.reporter]

It looks like rizzlarolla's work is now making the campaign managers aware that the majority of the sig campaigners they have been paying are mostly from account farming. I have already seen some of the signature campaigns being relaunched offering higher pay but with an emphasis on post quality. Spammers are included in a blacklist by the manager to discourage them from joining.

[BlackMambaPH]

Name: sunsilk
Post count:  39
Rank: Jr. Member
Bitcoin address:  1DspGAFezLa7vjmmybM1UvzAZ7uz5WmBGk

Please let me know if I am accepted, thanks.

you can not join us, because your post quality is not good.
sorry for that.

I want to fill the remaining spot. I hope that you will consider me.
Btc address: 1DspGAFezLa7vjmmybM1UvzAZ7uz5WmBGk

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816896 - Sunsilk (Secondtrade Sig. Campaign)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=811719 - jossiel (WhyFuture Sig.Campaign)

I'm not sure if the above account is connected to jacee. Because jacee facebook account name is Jossel . Hmmm

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=542742 - jaceefrost (knowned alt of jacee) (Spectro Sig.Campaign)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=512548 - jacee ( CrytoMixer.io)

[Timelord2067]

It slipped my mind till just now, if possible, we need to identify the farmers behind some of these high intensity farms.

Case in point:

Operatr: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=92499

Claims to have purchased "relinquished" a multitude of UIDs that had previously been caught red-handed scamming - well after they had received Red Paint ^TM A while later, I noticed that the UIDs in question still had their negative trust dished out to others.  The trust is right up to the date Operatr has put the message below, while some have been used *after* their message to pain the wall red ie - trust abuse.   When I contacted Operatr I got a terse "They will stay as is" type of response followed by Neutral trust on my wall.

Operatr left this on numerous UIDs:

This SCAMMERS account has been relinquished to @Operatr, see details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1325685.0 and here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1325685.msg13746700#msg13746700
this account should NOT be posting ANYTHING after today.

Scammer followed instructions, answered the survey and relinquished the account. Can only HOPE they do not return to do any further damage. My goal is to keep these scammers in NEWBIE'ville as long as possible.

I left this on a number of the UIDs

This UID has been bought and sold a number of times, you should do due diligence if considering trading as it may not be with the same person you previously did business with.

Operatr has now added Red Pain ^TM to my trust wall (oh woe is me!) and a quick recap of their various Alts shows PHS u=764988 and leancuisine u=143455 giving each other Positive trust (again, trust abuse).

[Timelord2067]

Hi @rizzlarolla,

I have a strong feeling that these three UID's:

19 November 2013, 02:47:49 Date Registered: Anixs     u=163265 http://archive.is/QVXgN

19 November 2013, 05:43:15 Date Registered: Wendigo u=163375 http://archive.is/Ds15V

19 November 2013, 19:37:12 Date Registered: WhiteyZ u=163888 http://archive.is/Ql4eY

Are either Alts, or, at the very least are Farmed Accounts ^TM in either case I was wondering if:

Using these three as templates, can you trawl through their post history and compare their posting patterns (ie once per fortnight, same day ie Monday, that sort of thing) and then if their patterns are similar over a period of time, then using that pattern to sweep for other UIDs that are also farmed?

[Wendigo]

I will wait out your investigation. Then I will have someone with a lot of green trust paint you in deep red. For libel.
You aren't getting out of this unscathed  


http://archive.is/qTfdn

[KWH]

I will wait out your investigation. Then I will have someone with a lot of green trust paint you in deep red. For libel.
You aren't getting out of this unscathed  


http://archive.is/qTfdn

That could be mighty risky for said account.

[Lauda]

I will wait out your investigation. Then I will have someone with a lot of green trust paint you in deep red. For libel.
You aren't getting out of this unscathed  

That could be mighty risky for said account.

It would be trust abuse at its finest. There is nothing to be afraid of Wendigo, unless you actually have something to hide.
The fact that you're threatening Timelord publicly with red trust, doesn't score you any points though.

[NoirGroup LLDC]

My question is how does one open +1000 accounts. Where do they get the time and patience ?

[Timelord2067]

I will wait out your investigation. Then I will have someone with a lot of green trust paint you in deep red. For libel.
You aren't getting out of this unscathed  

http://archive.is/qTfdn

It turns out @rizzlarolla hasn't been online since the first of December, so I will have to do a little digging of my own, in any event:

• @Wendigo's threat against me is archived for future reference: http://archive.is/rtIca#selection-3203.0-3237.23
• Turns out @Wendigo posted in this forum back in October:
  
  (which is archived for future reference) http://archive.is/O8qUF#selection-9283.0-9302.5
  
  

  There is one specific guy who has been quoting and replying to his own posts in such a flagrant behavior that it makes me sick. I wonder if you could find him on your own. If not I could give you some joker to make it more entertaining for you.
  
  P.S. It's not me but he frequents a sub-forum I am active in.
  

  Hey guys, there's an account farmer on the forum! Can you believe it?! I'm not going to help at all by telling you who it is, but I assure you that there is one!
  

  
  Because I am too busy spamming my signature for the weekly pittance obviously  
  

• While we are waiting for rizzlarolla to return, I'll again ask @Wendigo the question I asked him/her in another thread:
  
  (Which I took the liberty of archiving when I posted) http://archive.is/l5HmP#selection-8789.0-8828.2
  
  

  Nice findings everyone. As I frequent the Gambling section I have noticed that members of the FortuneJack campaign post one after another in the same threads and the posting patterns are suspiciously similar and in the back of my mind I have always thought something fishy is going on but couldn't put my finger on it and now everything is revealed and nicely laid out for everyone to see. I don't think such ravenous and brutal sockpuppeting should be allowed.
  

  
  I totally agree.
  
  19 November 2013, 02:47:49 Date Registered:           Anixs u=163265 http://archive.is/QVXgN
  
  19 November 2013, 05:43:15 Date Registered:      Wendigo u=163375 http://archive.is/Ds15V
  
  19 November 2013, 19:37:12 Date Registered:        WhiteyZ u=163888 http://archive.is/Ql4eY
  
  This is the third UID in a month to have a Date Registered: 19 November 2013 to join a conversation unexpectedly that I've been in.
  
  When did you buy your account?
  
  

  They've all signed up for coinroll too...  

  
  
• In relation to the above question: when you bought your account, did you realise it was a farmed account?

There may be another possible explanation, in either case I haven't given Red Paint ^TM to those who've pissed against my wall in the past, so I'm not likely to now.

...and this post is archived for future reference too... http://archive.is/0SFDy#selection-4115.0-4335.78

[Timelord2067]

Didn't see your answer in another thread...

I didn't buy anything, mate. This has been my account from the beginning. You are starting to show signs of paranoia maybe? Whatever floats your boat then. You can flaunt your accusations all you want. I see you have a lot of free time to bury here anyways.

One of the beauties of being a Timelord      

You are starting to show signs of paranoia maybe?

Does that count as you libeling me?

G'wan - Ya know ya want to... http://archive.is/wzXnf

[Wendigo]

Jesus Christ mate. Your reading comprehension is not up to snuff. I recommend reading up on what sarcasm means before quoting more random posts out of context because you have just made yourself look like a complete fool. Your nitpicking attempt gloriously fizzled out. Sorry.

You picked the wrong guy to mess with. And for that you will pay with your reputation dearly. Keep digging a deeper hole because it will be easier for me to bury you alive. I want you. I will OWN you.

Now let's play the high stakes. Everything or nothing. Let's dance!

http://archive.is/eLpMa

[K~Ehleyr]

The lady doth protest too much methinks 

[Timelord2067]

Jesus Christ mate. Your reading comprehension is not up to snuff. I recommend reading up on what sarcasm means before quoting more random posts out of context because you have just made yourself look like a complete fool. Your nitpicking attempt gloriously fizzled out. Sorry.

You picked the wrong guy to mess with. And for that you will pay with your reputation dearly. Keep digging a deeper hole because it will be easier for me to bury you alive. I want you. I will OWN you.

Now let's play the high stakes. Everything or nothing. Let's dance!

http://archive.is/eLpMa

This popped-corn needs more salt... and a tad more butter...

To the tune of "Johnny-Be-Good..." (if you know what I mean...)

[Wendigo]

[Timelord2067]

What part of Lord of the Rings is that?

[Wendigo]

What part of Lord of the Rings is that?

It's Game of Thrones. I recommend watching it it's great. Perhaps the show would divert your vengeful mind away from my poor forum soul?  

BTW. Why do you need rizzlarolla in the first place? Can't you do it yourself? How is the dirt digging going? Have you found any skeletons in the closet yet? Am I a tough nut to crack and you need reinforcements?

Why don't you ask Hilarious if my account is farmed or bought? We started posting 2 days apart back in the days. By your logic I must be an alt of Hilarious as well. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=164822

No comment 

[Timelord2067]

What part of Lord of the Rings is that?

It's Game of Thrones. I recommend watching it it's great. Perhaps the show would divert your vengeful mind away from my poor forum soul?  

BTW. Why do you need rizzlarolla in the first place? Can't you do it yourself? How is the dirt digging going? Have you found any skeletons in the closet yet? Am I a tough nut to crack and you need reinforcements?

Why don't you ask Hilarious if my account is farmed or bought? We started posting 2 days apart back in the days. By your logic I must be an alt of Hilarious as well. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=164822

No comment  

Interesting that you should try to bait me with a Global Moderator...

I'm pretty certain I can connect you with a UID that was registered to within a week of your registering, but it's not that one (even though you both purport to be from the UK)... (and I've already archived that proof)...

I've got other things to do (and I have a life), so you'll just have to wait.

As for @rizzlarolla, this is their thread and you said you were prepared to wait until they had investigated you.

[Wendigo]

What part of Lord of the Rings is that?

It's Game of Thrones. I recommend watching it it's great. Perhaps the show would divert your vengeful mind away from my poor forum soul?  

BTW. Why do you need rizzlarolla in the first place? Can't you do it yourself? How is the dirt digging going? Have you found any skeletons in the closet yet? Am I a tough nut to crack and you need reinforcements?

Why don't you ask Hilarious if my account is farmed or bought? We started posting 2 days apart back in the days. By your logic I must be an alt of Hilarious as well. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=164822

No comment  

Interesting that you should try to bait me with a Global Moderator...

I'm pretty certain I can connect you with a UID that was registered to within a week of your registering, but it's not that one (even though you both purport to be from the UK)... (and I've already archived that proof)...

I've got other things to do (and I have a life), so you'll just have to wait.

As for @rizzlarolla, this is their thread and you said you were prepared to wait until they had investigated you.

Oh I can wait. But when you are both done with it I will reach out to theymos and have you stripped of your privileges. How does that sound?

The man on the top won't let this one slide. Keep toying with me. I am ready.


http://archive.is/nk3w4