have you been given or fear negative trust? do not let your opinion be censored

[vigory]

Stand up to cryptodevils bullying and censorship, let the people play and comment on what they want. We have the right to voice our opinion, cryptodevil is trying to censor what we say in this forum DEDICATED TO HYIP/INVESTOR BASED GAMES!!

Post this public service announcement in all threads, encouraging your right to comment on war ever you want in his sub-forum.

Public Service Announcement -
This is an Investor-Based Game where loss is probable and gain is never certain.
Make your own judgement, and only invest what you can afford to lose!

All sites in this section are known to be upcoming scams or games.
Make your own judgement and invest based on your own research, Do not let intimidation by higher members with trust power turn you away from playing these games!
Play what you want to play, and post what you want to post.
Bitcoin is about freedom of speech and decentralisation,
DO NOT LET CRYPTODEVIL AND OTHER MEMBERS CENSOR YOUR OPINION!!

YOU HAVE BEEN INFORMED!

[Slow death]

you are making a revolution supporting thieves?

you have any idea what you're doing?

in the real world people steal, they are in jail, so many people steal as a last resort, but the Internet, anyone wakes up and chooses to be a thief (create a site and steal thousands of dollars), because he knows that: "will not be punished", but this must end, if we join forces, we can stop these thieves.

[vigory]

you are making a revolution supporting thieves?

you have any idea what you're doing?

in the real world people steal, they are in jail, so many people steal as a last resort, but the Internet, anyone wakes up and chooses to be a thief (create a site and steal thousands of dollars), because he knows that: "will not be punished", but this must end, if we join forces, we can stop these thieves.

What part of my public service announcement supports thieves? Are you dumb or have some sort of visual impairment?
We have a right to freedom of speech. Bitcoin is about decentralisation, anonymity and freedom of speech. All of this shit you say about supporting criminals or ending up in jail is not Bitcoin moral but your government crap. That is not what Bitcoin is about.
Everyone has a right to give their opinion without being censored, which is what scumbags like you and cryptodevil are doing. You are going against one of bitcoins core beliefs.
I am not supporting thieves, read my announcement. It does not say "INVEST YOUR MONEY!"... it says, take caution and do your own research, and do not let your opinion be censored.
There is nothing wrong with that. And it serves a better purpose than this bullsbit cryptodevil created.

[cryptodevil]

Play what you want to play, and post what you want to post.

Absolutely, it isn't as if I can actually stop anyone from participating in these scams or posting support for them. So that makes your "Help!Help! I'm being oppressed!!!!!111!!!" rant rather redundant.

Bitcoin is about freedom of speech

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequence of that speech.

[JahBit]

I really do not understand  all the hula buloo.. it clearly states on the top of this category >>>

Warning: You are in the Gambling section. You are likely to eventually lose any money that you gamble/"invest". Additionally, moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Do not gamble more than you can afford to lose

How people can give negative trust to people who they have not had any financial dealings with is to me ridiculous..

So Rock On  All   

[marlboroza]

Last time i checked scamming people for money and supporting scam is illegal in whole world.
If you think because this forum has section "investor-based games" that will make ponzi sites games, you are very wrong. There are people who are newbies in this community(bitcoin, not this forum) and are not aware that they can lose money "investing" in such sites you are calling "games".
So, when someone new see this kind of site on ad in faucet or anywhere else, and find on google thread in bitcointalk with cryptodevils "bullying and censorship", i am sure that person will not "invest" money in "game", and do the same mistake i did when i was newbie and didn't know about bitcointalk forum and cryptodevils "bullying and censorship" and didn't do some researches first.

[Roquene]

There are people who are newbies in this community(bitcoin, not this forum) and are not aware that they can lose money "investing" in such sites you are calling "games".

We talking about this Forum not Bitcoin in general. And here, this applies:



You've previously insufficiently researched?
You overlook the warning which is in RED on TOP of the forum?
Own fault.

Don't get me wrong. It's okay to warn newbies. I support that.
But please, not in every damn thread. Not over and over again.
And especially not in a page filling red text block.

Make one thread with easily understandable and clear information.
Like the well-known Cloudmining 101 (ponzi risk assessment)

When people are to lazy, stupid or ignorant to search at least for a couple of seconds for information,
I have no sympathy when they lose. Zero. It's simple as that.

Just fucking google before you throw your money in someones face.
It is not that hard. The key word is self-responsibility.

[vigory]

Play what you want to play, and post what you want to post.

Absolutely, it isn't as if I can actually stop anyone from participating in these scams or posting support for them. So that makes your "Help!Help! I'm being oppressed!!!!!111!!!" rant rather redundant.

Bitcoin is about freedom of speech

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequence of that speech.

We should be able to post what we want to post without fear of our profiles being painted red. You are blackmailing us, saying that if you post anything here as little as a neutral comment about a site, you'll label us as bad as the scammers. That is censorship, and you're limiting what we say to negative comments. My "rant" is not redundant at all.
Limiting someone's freedom of speech is what you are doing, and foremost you are succeeding. It's disgusting and I don't see why you can't see your own actions.

We have the right to post and invest in what we want. You do not have the right to call us scammers for doing so. No site is a scam until they have ripped someone off, so unless a site is not paying and we are still giving them the thumbs up then we are not supporting a scam but supporting a game/program.

You are cancer in this forum, and I hope you will be removed from DT soon for limiting our right to freedom of speech and censoring this forum.

[mammabitcoin2u]

Play what you want to play, and post what you want to post.

Absolutely, it isn't as if I can actually stop anyone from participating in these scams or posting support for them. So that makes your "Help!Help! I'm being oppressed!!!!!111!!!" rant rather redundant.

Bitcoin is about freedom of speech

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequence of that speech.

We should be able to post what we want to post without fear of our profiles being painted red. You are blackmailing us, saying that if you post anything here as little as a neutral comment about a site, you'll label us as bad as the scammers. That is censorship, and you're limiting what we say to negative comments. My "rant" is not redundant at all.
Limiting someone's freedom of speech is what you are doing, and foremost you are succeeding. It's disgusting and I don't see why you can't see your own actions.

We have the right to post and invest in what we want. You do not have the right to call us scammers for doing so. No site is a scam until they have ripped someone off, so unless a site is not paying and we are still giving them the thumbs up then we are not supporting a scam but supporting a game/program.

You are cancer in this forum, and I hope you will be removed from DT soon for limiting our right to freedom of speech and censoring this forum.

You want the right to post as you wish.  Yet you believe CrytoDevil can't do the same? 

You're a dumbass who IS redundant 

PS Don't confuse all speech as free.  You can't yell fire in an auditorium and think it's free speech, cuz its NOT

[someone111]

Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi/Pyramid Scam
Do Not Invest!

Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Yes. I did feel my speech being limited by that.

By negative trust, future opportunities are severely damaged.

Why should I receive red trust, if I keep posting into a thread how much money I deposit, received, lost, whatsoever. That is different from running a ponzi myself.

The red color and "Public Service Announcement" makes it seem like a moderator or admin. Unauthorized assumption of authority.

[vigory]

Play what you want to play, and post what you want to post.

Absolutely, it isn't as if I can actually stop anyone from participating in these scams or posting support for them. So that makes your "Help!Help! I'm being oppressed!!!!!111!!!" rant rather redundant.

Bitcoin is about freedom of speech

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequence of that speech.

We should be able to post what we want to post without fear of our profiles being painted red. You are blackmailing us, saying that if you post anything here as little as a neutral comment about a site, you'll label us as bad as the scammers. That is censorship, and you're limiting what we say to negative comments. My "rant" is not redundant at all.
Limiting someone's freedom of speech is what you are doing, and foremost you are succeeding. It's disgusting and I don't see why you can't see your own actions.

We have the right to post and invest in what we want. You do not have the right to call us scammers for doing so. No site is a scam until they have ripped someone off, so unless a site is not paying and we are still giving them the thumbs up then we are not supporting a scam but supporting a game/program.

You are cancer in this forum, and I hope you will be removed from DT soon for limiting our right to freedom of speech and censoring this forum.

You want the right to post as you wish.  Yet you believe CrytoDevil can't do the same? 

You're a dumbass who IS redundant 

PS Don't confuse all speech as free.  You can't yell fire in an auditorium and think it's free speech, cuz its NOT

you are confusing the real world with bitcoin. Bitcoin has its own core values and beliefs. If the world revolved around bitcoin and its morals, you could yell fire in an auditorium, but that would still make you look like an idiot and mental unstable.

I am not a dumbass who is redundant, your tongue is just on cryptodevils asshole so you don't get a negative trust from him.

Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi/Pyramid Scam
Do Not Invest!

Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Yes. I did feel my speech being limited by that.

By negative trust, future opportunities are severely damaged.

Why should I receive red trust, if I keep posting into a thread how much money I deposit, received, lost, whatsoever. That is different from running a ponzi myself.

The red color and "Public Service Announcement" makes it seem like a moderator or admin. Unauthorized assumption of authority.

Thank you. I've just added a poll if you feel your voice is limited by cryptodevil in this section.

[mammabitcoin2u]

Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi/Pyramid Scam
Do Not Invest!

Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Yes. I did feel my speech being limited by that. *** AND I FEEL you are not.  I am entitled to my opinion just like you.

By negative trust, future opportunities are severely damaged. ***Neg/Positive trust is for others to read and make their own decisions to deal with you or not.  Engage in scams and feedback is given (hopefully) Engage in NON-scams and feedback is given (hopefully)

Why should I receive red trust, if I keep posting into a thread how much money I deposit, received, lost, whatsoever. That is different from running a ponzi myself. ** Your posting/is promoting otherwise you would just keep it to yourself if you were not <--------that's been said a MILLION times (I'm sure you know this but yet still ask as if you are ignorant )

The red color and "Public Service Announcement" makes it seem like a moderator or admin. Unauthorized assumption of authority. **maybe to you? but everyone can make their own decision, just as you have stated yours.

[vigory]

Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi/Pyramid Scam
Do Not Invest!

Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Yes. I did feel my speech being limited by that. *** AND I FEEL you are not.  I am entitled to my opinion just like you.

By negative trust, future opportunities are severely damaged. ***Neg/Positive trust is for others to read and make their own decisions to deal with you or not.  Engage in scams and feedback is given (hopefully) Engage in NON-scams and feedback is given (hopefully)

Why should I receive red trust, if I keep posting into a thread how much money I deposit, received, lost, whatsoever. That is different from running a ponzi myself. ** Your posting/is promoting otherwise you would just keep it to yourself if you were not <--------that's been said a MILLION times (I'm sure you know this but yet still ask as if you are ignorant )

The red color and "Public Service Announcement" makes it seem like a moderator or admin. Unauthorized assumption of authority. **maybe to you? but everyone can make their own decision, just as you have stated yours.

so then I am sure you are ok with me giving you negative trust for condoning cryptodevil who is attempting to censor our freedom of speech?

[mexrockerz]

crypto devil is shit  . i agree with you op

[Slow death]

Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi/Pyramid Scam
Do Not Invest!

Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Yes. I did feel my speech being limited by that. *** AND I FEEL you are not.  I am entitled to my opinion just like you.

By negative trust, future opportunities are severely damaged. ***Neg/Positive trust is for others to read and make their own decisions to deal with you or not.  Engage in scams and feedback is given (hopefully) Engage in NON-scams and feedback is given (hopefully)

Why should I receive red trust, if I keep posting into a thread how much money I deposit, received, lost, whatsoever. That is different from running a ponzi myself. ** Your posting/is promoting otherwise you would just keep it to yourself if you were not <--------that's been said a MILLION times (I'm sure you know this but yet still ask as if you are ignorant )

The red color and "Public Service Announcement" makes it seem like a moderator or admin. Unauthorized assumption of authority. **maybe to you? but everyone can make their own decision, just as you have stated yours.

so then I am sure you are ok with me giving you negative trust for condoning cryptodevil who is attempting to censor our freedom of speech?

you are being naive, look for this section, what you see?

 many ponzi sites created by thieves ... but, do you know because it has many sites created by thieves on this forum? has many sites created by thieves because people allow, if anyone don't invest any cent on those fucking sites, in this section we would have honest sites, because before someone ( the scammer ) post a site that says it registered in the UK, he ( the scammer ) would know that no one would invest in your site, this would require all websites who post here in the forum were honest.

Members must be watchful and must fight crime if we want that in the future this section has only honest sites

crypto devil is shit  . i agree with you op

you do not have feelings, you have a poor soul.

[vigory]

Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi/Pyramid Scam
Do Not Invest!

Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Yes. I did feel my speech being limited by that. *** AND I FEEL you are not.  I am entitled to my opinion just like you.

By negative trust, future opportunities are severely damaged. ***Neg/Positive trust is for others to read and make their own decisions to deal with you or not.  Engage in scams and feedback is given (hopefully) Engage in NON-scams and feedback is given (hopefully)

Why should I receive red trust, if I keep posting into a thread how much money I deposit, received, lost, whatsoever. That is different from running a ponzi myself. ** Your posting/is promoting otherwise you would just keep it to yourself if you were not <--------that's been said a MILLION times (I'm sure you know this but yet still ask as if you are ignorant )

The red color and "Public Service Announcement" makes it seem like a moderator or admin. Unauthorized assumption of authority. **maybe to you? but everyone can make their own decision, just as you have stated yours.

so then I am sure you are ok with me giving you negative trust for condoning cryptodevil who is attempting to censor our freedom of speech?

you are being naive, look for this section, what you see?

 many ponzi sites created by thieves ... but, do you know because it has many sites created by thieves on this forum? has many sites created by thieves because people allow, if anyone don't invest any cent on those fucking sites, in this section we would have honest sites, because before someone ( the scammer ) post a site that says it registered in the UK, he ( the scammer ) would know that no one would invest in your site, this would require all websites who post here in the forum were honest.

Members must be watchful and must fight crime if we want that in the future this section has only honest sites

crypto devil is shit  . i agree with you op

you do not have feelings, you have a poor soul.

You are so fucking dumb, which is why you are the only person who voted "no"

[buxlover]

#vigory  In a sense i accept what you are saying, but preventing newbies from getting scammed is more important and necessary for the forum. The more old members are doing this pretty well. They too sometimes make mistake by judging someone by his post, who doesn't have such intention to scam.

But few misjudgments cant be avoided when trying to warn about a legion of scammers. Try to be responsible

I saw many newbie leaving bitcoin because of getting scammed at the beginning of entering the bitcoin world, Myself is an example i got scammed 3 years ago and left bitcoin for more than a year, so i say those legendary members are doing a good job at the end, not only cryptodevil, many members do, initially i too thought vod is so cruel to put red mark on all fishy posts. But now i think he is doing the right thing

[vigory]

#vigory  In a sense i accept what you are saying, but preventing newbies from getting scammed is more important and necessary for the forum. The more old members are doing this pretty well. They too sometimes make mistake by judging someone by his post, who doesn't have such intention to scam.

But few misjudgments cant be avoided when trying to warn about a legion of scammers. Try to be responsible

I saw many newbie leaving bitcoin because of getting scammed at the beginning of entering the bitcoin world, Myself is an example i got scammed 3 years ago and left bitcoin for more than a year, so i say those legendary members are doing a good job at the end, not only cryptodevil, many members do, initially i too thought vod is so cruel to put red mark on all fishy posts. But now i think he is doing the right thing

The warning at the top of every single topic isn't enough?

Warning: You are in the Gambling section. You are likely to eventually lose any money that you gamble/"invest". Additionally, moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Do not gamble more than you can afford to lose.

The board description is also not enough?

Games where the main factor is whether or not new "investors" join the game. Also any Bitcoin-denominated investment product with an APY far above the reasonable market rate

You are saying that stupidity of anyone who can't read should over ride our freedom of speech? That we can not share our opinion or play these games just because this might trick newbies falling for scams just because they can't read?
If they can read our opinions on posts, then they can read the warnings all over the board.

[cerals28]

best way for us to deal with this clown is promote all sites in this board  
fuck this guy, I never promoted scam but now I will because of him.

[Amadues]

best way for us to deal with this clown is promote all sites in this board  
fuck this guy, I never promoted scam but now I will because of him.

I guess your life is full of opportunity if you want help to scam other people "because of him".
And even what you get? anything! only a wast of time for you and for others.
Stop to spread this s****** sites, they are ONLY create to STOLE FUNDS and administrated by THIEF!