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October 27, 2016, 01:54:14 PM |
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i just played here and use the autobet was very fast
about when will you add a hotkeys? because i like to bet with keyboard compared with i click the roll button
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KingDice (OP)
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October 27, 2016, 08:36:01 PM |
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i just played here and use the autobet was very fast
about when will you add a hotkeys? because i like to bet with keyboard compared with i click the roll button
Sure its on our checklist. Do you have any ideas about which keys you would like to play with ? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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panjul07
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October 27, 2016, 08:49:03 PM |
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i just played here and use the autobet was very fast
about when will you add a hotkeys? because i like to bet with keyboard compared with i click the roll button
Sure its on our checklist. Do you have any ideas about which keys you would like to play with ? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Most common used hotkeys on dice game as I know : L : to bet on Low (under) H : to bet on High (Over) X : to halve bet amount C : to double bet amount There are other hotkeys, but I think those 4 above hotkeys are the most used one.
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KingDice (OP)
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October 27, 2016, 08:52:43 PM |
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i just played here and use the autobet was very fast
about when will you add a hotkeys? because i like to bet with keyboard compared with i click the roll button
Sure its on our checklist. Do you have any ideas about which keys you would like to play with ? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Most common used hotkeys on dice game as I know : L : to bet on Low (under) H : to bet on High (Over) X : to halve bet amount C : to double bet amount There are other hotkeys, but I think those 4 above hotkeys are the most used one. Nice, what about the actual... Roll dice? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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emberbekas
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October 27, 2016, 10:16:20 PM |
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When I left my auto roll for a couple of minutes my computer stop working properly(hang). It seems this site uses more ram resources. As a comparison, I run auto roll at other site for more than 8 hours and my computer still fine eventhough my device isnt high end one.
And one more thing that I miss from this site is the ability to bet at higher payout(0.01% - 0.99%). I wish kingdice will allow us to bet at that range soon!
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panjul07
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October 27, 2016, 10:45:09 PM |
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And one more thing that I miss from this site is the ability to bet at higher payout(0.01% - 0.99%). I wish kingdice will allow us to bet at that range soon!
It will need a huge change to add higher payout as you wish, this site is like rollin that only use 2 digit numbers as the outcome. If they will add higher payout (0.01%-0.99%) means that should change their outcome roll into at least 4 digits numbers IMO. It is not a necessary for this time because there is only few number of players who play with that range IMO. Just my opinion.
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KingDice (OP)
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October 27, 2016, 10:47:22 PM |
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When I left my auto roll for a couple of minutes my computer stop working properly(hang). It seems this site uses more ram resources. As a comparison, I run auto roll at other site for more than 8 hours and my computer still fine eventhough my device isnt high end one.
And one more thing that I miss from this site is the ability to bet at higher payout(0.01% - 0.99%). I wish kingdice will allow us to bet at that range soon!
Have you tried it with the "No animation mode" ? About higher payouts, we are thinking about it! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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karakhan
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October 27, 2016, 10:48:15 PM |
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i just played here and use the autobet was very fast
about when will you add a hotkeys? because i like to bet with keyboard compared with i click the roll button
Sure its on our checklist. Do you have any ideas about which keys you would like to play with ? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Most common used hotkeys on dice game as I know : L : to bet on Low (under) H : to bet on High (Over) X : to halve bet amount C : to double bet amount There are other hotkeys, but I think those 4 above hotkeys are the most used one. Nice, what about the actual... Roll dice? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) space is best for roll dice hotkey btw nice site and as i see everyday you guys upgrading it good luck guys
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KingDice (OP)
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October 28, 2016, 12:32:22 AM |
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i just played here and use the autobet was very fast
about when will you add a hotkeys? because i like to bet with keyboard compared with i click the roll button
Sure its on our checklist. Do you have any ideas about which keys you would like to play with ? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Most common used hotkeys on dice game as I know : L : to bet on Low (under) H : to bet on High (Over) X : to halve bet amount C : to double bet amount There are other hotkeys, but I think those 4 above hotkeys are the most used one. Nice, what about the actual... Roll dice? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) space is best for roll dice hotkey btw nice site and as i see everyday you guys upgrading it good luck guys OK! Consider it done (in few days ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) )
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KingDice (OP)
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October 28, 2016, 12:44:37 PM |
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And one more thing that I miss from this site is the ability to bet at higher payout(0.01% - 0.99%). I wish kingdice will allow us to bet at that range soon!
It will need a huge change to add higher payout as you wish, this site is like rollin that only use 2 digit numbers as the outcome. If they will add higher payout (0.01%-0.99%) means that should change their outcome roll into at least 4 digits numbers IMO. It is not a necessary for this time because there is only few number of players who play with that range IMO. Just my opinion. We may enable higher payouts only in No Animation mode, but we are still thinking about it. Its not urgent though ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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3JOH22A
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October 28, 2016, 01:23:44 PM |
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Better you made some (Chat Box) There like be social game gambling.
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adi33
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October 28, 2016, 01:32:11 PM |
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the increase is quite good but I think the features in kingdice purple I do not think it makes everyone likes. should be a light color. as well as the addition of chat to user
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BoXXoB
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October 28, 2016, 02:09:25 PM |
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Something about the colors on the site are off. Somehow they just don't fit together too well in my opinion... (personal opinion). Also chat would be a great addition.
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KingDice (OP)
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October 28, 2016, 02:16:28 PM |
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the increase is quite good but I think the features in kingdice purple I do not think it makes everyone likes. should be a light color. as well as the addition of chat to user
Hehe, its dark blue! Also we are working for the chat. We also have some ideas for a Chat based game too ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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KingDice (OP)
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October 29, 2016, 11:15:47 AM |
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When I left my auto roll for a couple of minutes my computer stop working properly(hang). It seems this site uses more ram resources. As a comparison, I run auto roll at other site for more than 8 hours and my computer still fine eventhough my device isnt high end one.
And one more thing that I miss from this site is the ability to bet at higher payout(0.01% - 0.99%). I wish kingdice will allow us to bet at that range soon!
If you still experience this problem, please contact support@kingdice.com . We will be happy to assist you further!
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October 29, 2016, 11:32:58 PM |
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Something seems fishy... It could be just because I lost but I'm pretty sure it didn't happen like the site said. I was betting with x1.01 multipliers, and was making 5k satoshi bets till I lost, and than going all in/half all in. I was using the numbers on the top of the page to see whether I lost or not, and here are my bets: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3VvK1Vs.png&t=665&c=pw6CotzoAaH0ng) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuJfZHUc.png&t=665&c=Q3MjPvR7tg-dJw) I saw the first 0, so I decided to go all in, and stopped my rolling, yet the server recorded a 5k satoshi bet first, and than my 0.06 BTC bet. I thought I rolled a 30 and won, so I continued. The website lagged for ~2 seconds, before my second roll showed up. Again, could be just because I lost but it did seem kinda fishy to me.
Switch to a nonce implementation please.
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taking a break - expect delayed responses
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KingDice (OP)
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October 29, 2016, 11:45:25 PM |
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Something seems fishy... It could be just because I lost but I'm pretty sure it didn't happen like the site said. I was betting with x1.01 multipliers, and was making 5k satoshi bets till I lost, and than going all in/half all in. I was using the numbers on the top of the page to see whether I lost or not, and here are my bets: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3VvK1Vs.png&t=665&c=pw6CotzoAaH0ng) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuJfZHUc.png&t=665&c=Q3MjPvR7tg-dJw) I saw the first 0, so I decided to go all in, and stopped my rolling, yet the server recorded a 5k satoshi bet first, and than my 0.06 BTC bet. I thought I rolled a 30 and won, so I continued. The website lagged for ~2 seconds, before my second roll showed up. Again, could be just because I lost but it did seem kinda fishy to me.
Switch to a nonce implementation please. Hello, Ill check your rolls now, but I'm not sure i understand what happened exactly. Can you please PM me or be more specific please? EDIT: From what i see in first place, the #220950 and #220949 Bets were Roll Over 1%, while the rest of them were Roll Under 98%. Also you say: "I stopped my Rolling". What do you mean? If the dices are moving and you click again Roll Dice, it will not stop animation but Roll again.
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DarkStar_
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October 30, 2016, 02:36:36 AM |
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I meant I stopped betting - if I see a number that would have lost if I was betting the other way, I switch it (why it was Under 98, and than Over 1). I know for sure I didn't make a 5k satoshi bet with the new settings, so I found it very odd that the server recorded one.
I believe your provably fair system is quite flawed and makes it easy for you to cheat - the Client Roll automatically changes after every bet without telling the players (it's never mentioned on your site and the thread, and I thought it was odd when I started verifying). How do you generate the Client Roll? It would also be a fairly safe bet for you to cheat if the bettor is playing 2x or higher, as the risk of them switching is low, and the reward if they did switch is low as well.
It's easy for you to guarantee that you win if the bettor is playing with the same pattern (like I was, as the chance of me switching it around and betting the opposite if you rig it is very very slim), or if they were auto betting. If someone auto bets, you could end up generating Client Rolls that guarantee a loss for the player, and it would still verify perfectly. The only way a system like yours would work would be in a MoneyPot type situation, where the app generates the random seed, while the server generates the hash (MoneyPot). I'm not saying I was cheated, but that it's definitely a possibility.
Switch to a nonce based implementation like Just-Dice, BitSler, PrimeDice, BetKing, e.t.c. It makes it easier to verify, and removes any chance you have at cheating (except for nonce skipping, and maybe a few others, but it would be easy to prove I was cheated.)
TLDR: The server (KingDice) can cheat you if you use auto betting easily, and fairly low risk if you bet with a predictable pattern.
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KingDice (OP)
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October 30, 2016, 11:47:19 AM Last edit: October 30, 2016, 12:06:00 PM by KingDice |
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I meant I stopped betting - if I see a number that would have lost if I was betting the other way, I switch it (why it was Under 98, and than Over 1). I know for sure I didn't make a 5k satoshi bet with the new settings, so I found it very odd that the server recorded one.
I believe your provably fair system is quite flawed and makes it easy for you to cheat - the Client Roll automatically changes after every bet without telling the players (it's never mentioned on your site and the thread, and I thought it was odd when I started verifying). How do you generate the Client Roll? It would also be a fairly safe bet for you to cheat if the bettor is playing 2x or higher, as the risk of them switching is low, and the reward if they did switch is low as well.
It's easy for you to guarantee that you win if the bettor is playing with the same pattern (like I was, as the chance of me switching it around and betting the opposite if you rig it is very very slim), or if they were auto betting. If someone auto bets, you could end up generating Client Rolls that guarantee a loss for the player, and it would still verify perfectly. The only way a system like yours would work would be in a MoneyPot type situation, where the app generates the random seed, while the server generates the hash (MoneyPot). I'm not saying I was cheated, but that it's definitely a possibility.
Switch to a nonce based implementation like Just-Dice, BitSler, PrimeDice, BetKing, e.t.c. It makes it easier to verify, and removes any chance you have at cheating (except for nonce skipping, and maybe a few others, but it would be easy to prove I was cheated.)
TLDR: The server (KingDice) can cheat you if you use auto betting easily, and fairly low risk if you bet with a predictable pattern.
Its easy for us to do any of the things you mentioned above, true. But we don't, cause we are provable fair . Its very bad if a player put charges on a casino that "is cheating" and warn other people, if he has no proof and has not checked/asked thoroughly what the casino really does. The client Roll is 100% generated using Browsers Javascript Math.Random() function, which means that we have absolutely no control on it.PS: We will soon update the verify.php page to have the actual algorithm of our provable fairness, so that there is no question about it.
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KingDice (OP)
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October 30, 2016, 05:53:16 PM |
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