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June 14, 2011, 09:27:45 PM
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1) if someone stole $500,000 worth of assets from you, you need to go to the police. doesn't matter if its bitcoins or cash.

2) you said your slush's pool account was hacked first. have you talked to slush to see if he has any sort of record on what IP's accessed your account that day? If so, its pretty trivial to get a subpena for ip records from an ISP.

Theft of $500,000 in assets and illegally gaining access to private machines, you can put the guy in jail for a decade or more.
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June 14, 2011, 10:02:56 PM
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1) if someone stole $500,000 worth of assets from you, you need to go to the police. doesn't matter if its bitcoins or cash.

2) you said your slush's pool account was hacked first. have you talked to slush to see if he has any sort of record on what IP's accessed your account that day? If so, its pretty trivial to get a subpena for ip records from an ISP.

Theft of $500,000 in assets and illegally gaining access to private machines, you can put the guy in jail for a decade or more.

I did contact the police, but do you honestly think they can do anything? The way the police operates means they cannot do anything in the even to of a cyber crime. The only reason I went to the police is to have some legal proof that I reported the theft.

I talked to slush. I'm still waiting for him to possibly do something. The funny thing is that the day my pool account got broken into I told slush about it but he was busy at the time dealing with a DDoS attack. What I should've done was move the money the very first minute I discovered my pool account was hacked. Should'a would'a could'a..


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June 14, 2011, 10:17:50 PM
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This story made it on Gawker! http://gawker.com/5811868/a-500000-geek-cyberheist   

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Oh wow. I hope this doesn't start a negative press storm against bitcoin. It does not deserve it.


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June 14, 2011, 10:20:39 PM
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This story made it on Gawker! http://gawker.com/5811868/a-500000-geek-cyberheist  

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Oh wow. I hope this doesn't start a negative press storm against bitcoin. It does not deserve it.



I know I was just thinking the same thing!  Cry  Hopefully it doesn't.  To bad they accuse you of being a troll? I mean really?

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June 14, 2011, 10:33:30 PM
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This story made it on Gawker! http://gawker.com/5811868/a-500000-geek-cyberheist  

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Oh wow. I hope this doesn't start a negative press storm against bitcoin. It does not deserve it.



I know I was just thinking the same thing!  Cry  Hopefully it doesn't.  To bad they accuse you of being a troll? I mean really?

Yeah. I will be vindicated in the end. I am a fool for losing my bitcoins, but I am no troll!

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June 14, 2011, 10:44:16 PM
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Hopefully bitcoin will only become stronger due to this incident. (people will take security more seriously)
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June 14, 2011, 11:47:04 PM
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Virtual cash with no protection that can be stolen by hackers? Sign me up!!!


Unfortunately, this is the general public perception of bitcoin because of scam/theft threads like this.

The world has gotten used to their interest debt whores "protecting" them.


"... He is no fool who parts with that which he cannot keep, when he is sure to be recompensed with that which he cannot lose ..."

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June 14, 2011, 11:49:55 PM
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I don't car if this thief breaks that 25k into 1 btc chunks. Lets start rocking an excel sheet and track that shit.

I have made only 10 btcs since I started, but will happily send you one I feel bad this happened to you.


I dont like the guy. How many reasons do I have? alot.
How many reasons do I need? none.
I just dont like the guy.

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June 14, 2011, 11:51:03 PM
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This thread made me wondering two things:

1. What is Libertarian's way dealing with thievery? If seeking intervention from authority is not an option, what else you can do?

2. If police somehow finds this thief, for $500K, what kind of prison term will this guy face in US? Russia?
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June 14, 2011, 11:54:48 PM
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I think we have to treat 500k worth of bitcoins the same way you'd treat 500k of physical dollars.  Leaving them on a computer connected to the internet is like leaving 500 grand in a stack in the middle of your living room with your front door open.  I probably wouldn't have more than a few grand in anyone wallet.  Store the largest amounts offline, in multiple nondescript backed up devices.

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June 14, 2011, 11:55:36 PM
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This thread made me wondering two things:

1. What is Libertarian's way dealing with thievery? If seeking intervention from authority is not an option, what else you can do?

2. If police somehow finds this thief, for $500K, what kind of prison term will this guy face in US? Russia?


A Libertarian would march their private army to the thief, capture him, and hold a trial under common law.
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June 15, 2011, 12:34:41 AM
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On the positive side, if you can sufficiently document the loss you have one hell of a tax deduction.

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June 15, 2011, 12:37:10 AM
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This story made it on Gawker! http://gawker.com/5811868/a-500000-geek-cyberheist  

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Oh wow. I hope this doesn't start a negative press storm against bitcoin. It does not deserve it.



I know I was just thinking the same thing!  Cry  Hopefully it doesn't.  To bad they accuse you of being a troll? I mean really?

Yeah. I will be vindicated in the end. I am a fool for losing my bitcoins, but I am no troll!


Don't worry, karma is a bitch. After you die I am sure you will haunt his house and make his pots rattle.
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June 15, 2011, 01:42:14 AM
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Hmmm.....Gavin gives a talk at the CIA and a few days later $500,000 is hacked from someone's bitcoin account.  Huh  It does make one wonder...

Quite a lot of drama around here as I learn about bitcoins for my first week...beats PrimeTime TV

btw, why aren't leaders of the services involved in this thread?  This seems like a big enough event that it might helpful if they address aspects of this to the community as they see it.  There is much that could be learned from this.  Yet, mostly what we see in this thread are admonishments and accusations.  It seems the leaders of the pools and exchanges involved should step up to the plate and address the community about what steps are being taken and how others can prevent security breaches.

Noob question - Where is the wallet.dat file stored on a Mac?

@Allinvain - I hope this gets tracked down and you get some solid answer from commuity leaders.
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June 15, 2011, 01:44:33 AM
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"@Allinvain - I hope this gets tracked down and you get some solid answer from commuity leaders"

I had a noob question can BTC still be sent to the wallet that was stolen ? maybe you can trace it that way ?
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June 15, 2011, 01:45:13 AM
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Hmmm.....Gavin gives a talk at the CIA and a few days later $500,000 is hacked from someone's bitcoin account.  Huh  It does make one wonder...

Gavin's talk was today, bud. AFTER this incident took place.

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June 15, 2011, 01:53:13 AM
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This story made it on Gawker! http://gawker.com/5811868/a-500000-geek-cyberheist   

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Adrien Chen is a tool. Every story he's posted about bitcoin is only to cast it in a negative light. His writing style mimics that of a college freshman. You can practically see him giggling as he hammers out his prose.



Not only do most of the writers suck, their stories suck.  Jesus Diaz is the worst...he will ban you if you even slightly disagree or point out how incompetent he is.  Banhammer Junkie.  I honestly like Lifehacker's articles and Jalopnik's car talk but Gizmodo/Gawker as a whole really blow.
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June 15, 2011, 01:55:18 AM
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This thread made me wondering two things:

1. What is Libertarian's way dealing with thievery? If seeking intervention from authority is not an option, what else you can do?

2. If police somehow finds this thief, for $500K, what kind of prison term will this guy face in US? Russia?


A Libertarian would march their private army to the thief, capture him, and hold a trial under common law.

Trial is already approaching. Imprisonment is gonna be hard. I think losing that kind of amount though would put him in a bind. I wouldn't trade to make more on that kind of money. I'd trade out of the system, slowly. But I'm thinking people who pull this crap are going to be dumb enough to borrow from someone else to make some more.

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June 15, 2011, 04:15:30 AM
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Unfortunately, a new kind of money will not solve the problems of a for profit monetary system. When your incentive is to acquire money, the methodology becomes irrelevant in the context of a distorted value system in which you need to acquire the money to be rewarded and receive the necessities of life. That won't change until we choose to have relevant values and conduct ourselves accordingly.

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June 15, 2011, 05:09:14 AM
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I had an idea for this concept a couple of months ago when I was thinking about running my own Bitcoin ATM drive through bank.

Run a computer with some kind of secure linux distro. Tiny core would be a good base to work from since its one of the most lightweight distros.(Only 10 MB or so!)

Run the standard stable bitcoin server with every port blocked except the ports need by the bitcoin server.

Tiny core runs completely in memory so if some one were to try and compromise the machine and it lost power then everything would be permanently erased. No trace. In order for your wallet to be recoverable, enable a script that periodically encrypts your wallet and sends it a remote databank, like google docs, drop box, ect. Do not use hard drives.

Install SSH but use key based authentication with a password needed to unlock your private key. This would allow you access to your machine from any terminal on your local network. Disable password logins and make sure the ssh port is blocked from outside access. 

Connect the headless server to your Ethernet, never use a wifi network!

Also connect the pc to a back up power supply and surge protector.

Hope this helps!

PS: I'm thinking about making a linux distro based off of this called SecuCoin. Using microcore+bitcoind+openssh = ~10 MB for the whole OS!

This OS would not have a gui and would need a gui implementation for access from a external terminal.

Like my Idea/Help? Drop me a bit or two here (Thanks!)
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