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October 17, 2016, 05:33:10 AM
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   It appears as if others may have experienced the same or similar problems, yet I have been unable to find a solution.

   Yesterday, I transferred bitcoin from one wallet to my Electrum wallet, on my Android phone, with no problems. I did this due to my Mycelium wallet would not recognize the bitcoinblender.com address as being a valid address. Electrum was reccomended by darknetmarketplace.org in their bitcoin blending tutorial, which I was following as a guide to assist my first bitcoin transaction.
 
   Later that day I attempted to transfer from my Electrum wallet on my Android device to my bitcoinblender.com wallet.

   I plugged in the blender address, followed the instructions, hit send.
 
   The coin or transaction hasn't appeared anywhere on the bitcoin blender wallet/page. When I open the details page on the Electrum app
the status shows 97 confirmations (This number has and continues to increase) I have the date and time present, the amount sent, transaction fee,
the correct blender address is displayed in outputs and a transaction ID number. There is also a bar code and a close button at the bottom of
the screen. I entered the blender address in the blockchain link supplied within the support page on bitcoinblender.com and I am unable to locate any record of my transaction.

   I have since downloaded Electrum to my PC using my existing seed hoping to gain more help or options. The PC version does not provide any information or options that are not present in the Android version.

   I fear that I just lost a fairly substantial amount of money

   If anyone has found any solutions, or has any suggestions, please contact me as soon as reasonably possible.

   "Thank You"
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October 17, 2016, 06:36:04 AM
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Please provide some details about the transaction, such as the address you were sending to or from, or the transaction ID. It looks like you want the privacy by using a service like this, but without this we cannot really help you solve it.

Did you enter the details on blockchain.info to see if it shows up there? If it is not there it may be a problem with the sending. If it does show up there, bitcoinblender may be doing something shady.
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October 17, 2016, 06:41:41 AM
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It seems you're asking advice about the same problem in 2 different threads:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1637010.msg16589388#msg16589388

It might be a good idear to focus on one thread and close/post a notification in the other one, that way everybody is focussed on helping you in one place Wink

That being said: if electrum shows allmost 100 confirmations, you either pasted the wrong address, the mixer is experiencing technical problems,  or you got scammed (at least, those are the scenario's that pop to my mind).

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October 17, 2016, 06:54:59 AM
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Sorry about the posting in several threads I will take your recommendation about closing the other thread.

the address the coin was sent to  35Ax7AcYq3WUNPHcncbRvahwYwMRk75a7h

The transaction ID a5fafd809c859005e9a12fe8bc08b50db698e8aec382c7151d2bca5c0b6a6537

Thank You for your assistance
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October 17, 2016, 06:57:17 AM
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Sorry about the posting in several threads I will take your recommendation about closing the other thread.

the address the coin was sent to  35Ax7AcYq3WUNPHcncbRvahwYwMRk75a7h

The transaction ID a5fafd809c859005e9a12fe8bc08b50db698e8aec382c7151d2bca5c0b6a6537

Thank You for your assistance

As i feared, looking at a standard block explorer:
https://blockchain.info/tx/a5fafd809c859005e9a12fe8bc08b50db698e8aec382c7151d2bca5c0b6a6537

you can clearly see this transaction has indeed 124 confirmations at time of writing Sad

This basically means you should doublecheck your deposit addres in the mixer's gui...
If it's really 35Ax7AcYq3WUNPHcncbRvahwYwMRk75a7h  (maybe make a screenshot), you are either scammed, or they have technical problems.

If the deposit address in the mixer's gui isn't 35Ax7AcYq3WUNPHcncbRvahwYwMRk75a7h , they either changed it scam you, or you have malware on your local pc.

Anyways... The only 2 things left for you to do are:
- if you have malware, clean your pc
- if you got scammed/technical problems with the mixer => contact their support. If it doesn't answer, at least open a scam report in order to warn everybody else...

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October 17, 2016, 08:02:08 AM
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 I think I figured some things out, mostly I got scammed.

 I set-up my transaction on bitcoinblender at an Onion URL  I later was directed to and mistakenly logged in using a dot.org address
using my user name and password, when I realized my mistake I attempted to log in and my username and ID were not valid.
I made a new account so I could contact suppport about this matter, and I also sent a pm to someone I was refered to thru this forum
who I believe may be affiliated with the Onion site.

 As of now the sent coins are unspent with no Children, is there any way to recover my coins? How do I initiate a scam report?
 
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I think I figured some things out, mostly I got scammed.

 I set-up my transaction on bitcoinblender at an Onion URL  I later was directed to and mistakenly logged in using a dot.org address
using my user name and password, when I realized my mistake I attempted to log in and my username and ID were not valid.
I made a new account so I could contact suppport about this matter, and I also sent a pm to someone I was refered to thru this forum
who I believe may be affiliated with the Onion site.

 As of now the sent coins are unspent with no Children, is there any way to recover my coins? How do I initiate a scam report?
 

It's sad to say (at least, it is sad for you, and i do feel pitty for you), but one of the features of bitcoin is that there is no charge-back method once the transaction makes it into a block (yours was added to a block).


Creating a scam report is relatively easy: just go to this subforum:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

Follow the guide in this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0

TBH, chances for you to recover your funds are slim to none, but you can always try to create a scam accusation, even if it's only to warn other people for this type of scam.

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October 17, 2016, 08:35:02 AM
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Thanks for all the assistance, got misdirected, actually even set-up my account on the bogus
bitcoinblnder.org site. Got scammed for sure, as I see there are threads here from people
who encountered the same bogus site. Live and Learn I guess, it was a hard hit to take.
I will follow-up with the scam report and hopefully this doesn't happen to anyone else.
Thanks Again.
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October 17, 2016, 08:52:55 AM
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Thanks for all the assistance, got misdirected, actually even set-up my account on the bogus
bitcoinblnder.org site. Got scammed for sure, as I see there are threads here from people
who encountered the same bogus site. Live and Learn I guess, it was a hard hit to take.
I will follow-up with the scam report and hopefully this doesn't happen to anyone else.
Thanks Again.

In the future, i would advise you to only use trusted mixers... I've been around for a while, and i've never read negative comments about bitmixer.io. They also have an onion domain (bitmixer2whesjgj.onion at the moment, but you should always visit bitmixer.io to check if it's still valid).

Other things would be: double check the url, the ssl certificate AND the letter of guarantee (you can easily verify if the address used to sign the letter of guarantee is the right one, check the dates, check if your address is clearly mentioned, and check if the signature is valid before sending a single satoshi).

Like i said, these tips and tricks won't help you this time, but hopefully, it'll help you next time you want to mix any coins.

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