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October 19, 2016, 12:45:30 PM
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Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.
They stopped file sharing and torrent sites due to piracy and bitcoin is open source and can be used by anyone.

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Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
No bitcoin is decentralized which mean bitcoin have thousands of nodes so you can connect with any of them and can broadcast your bitcoin transactions or even you can make your own ip as one of the nodes. So basically if government even tries to ban all known bitcoin nodes ip and web wallets domains they can't stop bitcoin transactions. That's why all trust bitcoin and it is quite sure that bitcoin network will never go down.

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October 19, 2016, 01:03:53 PM
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Well if government could ban bitcoin or crypto cureencies they would had made it already, but we do know they cant, they try to hit bitcoin inside with several bad news, like the silk road to make people avoid bitcoin, but bitcoin achieved a level that no one can kill it without a big problem inside the code, something that till the moment no one found or will find , soo let the countries waste their resorces, vps and vpn should be the way to keep connected to bitcoin.
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October 26, 2016, 04:24:02 AM
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Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.

Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
That's right the goverment just be able for blocking the bitcoin through the IP, in this time that is referring into the bitcoin'site and not for the bitcoin currency. but it's just useless step for the goverment and isp for blocking bitcoin. according from the a lot of the various vpn are offering a good service in this day for passing a block and like using a tor network. goverment and isp just wasting a lot of their time for doing a sueless things.
yeah,  i think goverment can block with IP but we can replace IP again
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October 26, 2016, 06:13:22 AM
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It will be very difficult to block bitcoin access, government only can block the crucial bitcoin site like wallet site, it is kind of difficult to block all of bitcoin related site because there are so many site that keep appearing everyday, then if the government blocked the IP of the site we can simply just install VPN to overpass the blocking
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October 26, 2016, 06:25:52 AM
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If government Block bitcoin , They will only blocked wallet and some famous sites. But large bitcoin holder will make a way to trade their bitcoin. If government blocked bitcoin maybe bitcoiners will only access bitcoin in darknet or deepweb . Bitcoin will be hard to convert into fiat if governent banned it

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October 26, 2016, 06:34:50 AM
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I think the government will do the same as block porn sites and gambling. it is also possible that the government simply blocking sites bitcoin wallet, exchangers or trading places.
but will not affect for bitcoin users. they can still use VPN, like I did it on porn and gambling sites that have been blocked by the government.
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October 26, 2016, 06:50:29 AM
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Yes, Bitcoin moves through the use of internet. The government won't have a problem when they control all the wallets that are being used for Bitcoin making all your bitcoins useless. But I don't know if that is also the government's way on how they plan to block bitcoin intro your country.
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October 26, 2016, 06:53:07 AM
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Government can't block the Bitcoin network but they can block or seize coins in your wallet if they are product of criminal activities. At least in some countries they have the authority to do so.

The only way an authority can seize properly secured bitcoins is with the explicit permission of the sole controller of the private keys. Anyone you've read about who has had their bitcoins seized without explicit permission from the sole controller of the private keys has failed to properly secure their bitcoins.

The only way an authority can block properly secured bitcoins is with the cooperation of 100% of the miners (I say 100% because any miner who does not cooperate will have their blocks ignored and will be mining a fork).

If you aren't the sole controller of your private keys, you don't have any bitcoins.
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October 26, 2016, 07:08:26 AM
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Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.

Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??

It is more like the ISP's will limit or even block the nodes from accessing the internet as the blockchain gets larger and larger. As the whole network demands for more bandwidth, the ISP's can only accommodate so much that it has to limit some nodes' access to the internet. There is a reason why we are seeing a smaller no. of nodes every year. One of the main reasons is that its getting harder to maintain a node because of the blockchain's size. Storage is not really a problem but bandwidth will be the real major problem. Give it 5 more years.

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October 26, 2016, 07:53:46 AM
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I think bitcoin might not blocked by an ISP. bitcoin is a valid means of payment yag today. first bitcoin is anonymouse. if there are ISPs that do it, then the ISP is very unethical.
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October 26, 2016, 09:06:00 AM
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Governments can block bitcoin too but only in terms of internet ISP. They can block internet users by ordering internet service providers to block bitcoin related sites from their service, but that won't affect bitcoin's real network at all. If we want to use bitcoin though even if our ISP blocks it, we can still use VPN to access bitcoin related sites and do some earning. Its only that it might be hard to exchange to fiat if government bans bitcoin in your country.
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October 26, 2016, 09:28:30 AM
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It can, obviously. You can get it blocked by them if the government wants, just like there are websites in North Korea that are blocked from any other country to be visited. I'm aware of that but I don't think they will do anything about it for now, as it's not really a big thing.
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October 26, 2016, 09:35:28 AM
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It can, obviously. You can get it blocked by them if the government wants, just like there are websites in North Korea that are blocked from any other country to be visited. I'm aware of that but I don't think they will do anything about it for now, as it's not really a big thing.
well only wallet and bitcoins related site,blocking bitcoin(currencies) is impossible in my opinion,some ISP can only block a contenct by its server IPs,and does bitcoin have IPs? i think no,and that's why it's decentralized

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October 26, 2016, 09:38:36 AM
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If the government were to pass regulations outlawing Bitcoin, they would probably do a few things
1. Stop any financial transactions.
Exchanges would be shut down and any payment processing companies would risk fine/ shutdown if they dealt with bitcoin.
This would make it hard to convert fiat into Bitcoin and trade Bitcoins.

2. Attempt to shut down any large Bitcoin related sites.
They may attempt to force ISP to shut down sites/ stop DNS from resolving to hostnames of big Bitcoin sites.

It may be hard to shut down the actual Bitcoin network but without a way to convert back to fiat and all the exchanges shut down a lot of people may lose interest quickly.

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October 26, 2016, 12:31:41 PM
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It can, obviously. You can get it blocked by them if the government wants, just like there are websites in North Korea that are blocked from any other country to be visited. I'm aware of that but I don't think they will do anything about it for now, as it's not really a big thing.
well only wallet and bitcoins related site,blocking bitcoin(currencies) is impossible in my opinion,some ISP can only block a contenct by its server IPs,and does bitcoin have IPs? i think no,and that's why it's decentralized

Governments can however force ISP's to block IP addresses from nodes and various pools in an attempt to push Bitcoin back. All nodes are public with their IP addresses, so in that aspect it's not difficult at all. Even when nodes are being hosted from new IP addresses it's just a matter of refreshing their ban list several times a week.
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October 26, 2016, 12:33:44 PM
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Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.

Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
In my understanding it can be blocked by government if they don't want it to enter on your country and some of countries label bitcoins as illegal currency or illegal of using it .but you can still bypass and access it as many of IP's are created to enter some prohibited network and now can enter that sites blocked sites by changing your country and location server.
How would a government block bitcoin if there are so many users who have it on there computers using them as small nodes?  I understand what is being said, but how can they block it from the inside?
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October 26, 2016, 02:02:01 PM
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Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.

Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??
Yes there are possibilities that government can block all the website related to bitcoin but not the bitcoin itself if they want it, if they think that bitcoin is a threat to their country simply from illegal drugs transaction then they will block it and ban in their respective country , but I guess it will never happen, because I guess that some officials in the government is also taking the pleasure of bitcoin.
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October 26, 2016, 02:08:52 PM
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I think, the Bitcoin network cannot be block by government or an ISP. Still if they blocked Bitcoin, we have deepnet to use Bitcoin.
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October 26, 2016, 02:45:30 PM
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Recently many file sharing sites and torrents had been banned in my country to stop piracy.

Is there a way that the government or the isp may block the connection to bitcoin network by its users ??

They can do this, but probably they will have to turn off the Internet or use a complete ban of access to resources from other countries. In fact, close p2p access is very difficult and finally there is not any problem to use vpn services.

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October 26, 2016, 09:24:58 PM
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ok. another worse case scenario.

a government could via united nations/interpol set up a sudden international tactical strike

this can be done by
https://bitnodes.21.co/
getting all the IP's and finding out which ISP that ip belongs to.
EG in the UK its under 230..in the U.S its under 1500

so imagine tomorrow under 230 homes out of 20 million households have their internet disconnected
at the same time
in america under 1500 homes out of 100mill households have their internet disconnected
and so on
even things like proxies are useless because the landline has been literally cut off for upto 6000 locations
think its impossible? its not. ISP's have millions of customers and regularly turn the internet off on 10's of thousands of users every week due to breach of contract/non payment of bill.

they would also take bitnodes and other DNS seeding locations offline to further cause drama of new node locations not being able to link up, though smart people will just join an IRC channel and request a list of working ip addresses to manually add node connections

as for the network
what would happen is that the countries with no "partnerships" to whatever agency is organising this tactical strike will continue on. and people who are affected would need to either move house or go to court to get their internet ban lifted or change ISP which can take upto 10 days in some cases.

again it wont require an all out "ban the internet" of 1.5billion people. but instead disconnecting the land lines of under 6000 people to cause alot of drama and issues.

the solution is to get more diverse. instead of bitcoin nodes running in just 91 countries it needs to be running in all 200 countries. and also needs to be running via satalite and other non landline/ISP reliant methods

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