[ANN][The Original Multipool - Scrypt/SHA256/Scrypt-N/X11] multipool.us

[svetliopi44]

I just know that I have a problem - only for me?
When you dig into the pool coinotron.com large lag.
And if I'm not close it all goes to hell.

[flound1129]

The new scoring (proportional) system is in place.  It was actually simpler than I thought it would be and I did not need to change the DB almost at all.  Also, payout calculations have improved in performance.

I keep 7 days worth of shares in the DB, so unless a block takes more than 7 days to find, all shares submitted will be paid.

[murraypaul]

Could you post some details of exactly how the new scoring system works?
The Help details on the webpage still refer to PPLNS.
How does this affect people mining on one of the dedicated pools, rather than the multipool?

[fredeq]

Could you post some details of exactly how the new scoring system works?
The Help details on the webpage still refer to PPLNS.
How does this affect people mining on one of the dedicated pools, rather than the multipool?

+1

[paulm]

The new scoring (proportional) system is in place.  It was actually simpler than I thought it would be and I did not need to change the DB almost at all.  Also, payout calculations have improved in performance.

I keep 7 days worth of shares in the DB, so unless a block takes more than 7 days to find, all shares submitted will be paid.

That was fast, thanks Flound. Did you remove all the handicaps and the minimum time to mine certain coins coins since this isn't necessary anymore using a proportional system. You should simply have a minimum difference before the multipool switches from one coin to another to prevent it rapidly switching, say 1%.

[paulm]

Could you post some details of exactly how the new scoring system works?
The Help details on the webpage still refer to PPLNS.
How does this affect people mining on one of the dedicated pools, rather than the multipool?

from DeepBit: "You get a portion of every solved block proportional to your part in pool's hashing power."

Flound can correct me if I'm wrong but this is the way I understand it; Let's say it took 10000 shares before a block was found and you submitted 200. You would get 200/10000 (2%) of the value of the solved block.

To me this is the best and most fair payment method. You get paid exactly the amount you should for the portion of work you put in.

[xreichardx]

Wow, flound!  It was a spectacular night on the pool!!!!! 

Anything to do with the new scoring mods?

[murraypaul]

The description so far is: "a proportional-like payment system"
That doesn't really count as details!
Especially in the situation multipool has with both dedicated pools and the switching multipool, which is much more complex that a normal single pool.

[zepadee]

I haven't worked out the details yet, but I'm going to be moving to a proportional-like payment system soon.

I've been thinking a lot about the current payment system lately, and I think it's partially to blame for the low profitability.  The amount the multiport miners lose out on paying the dedicated miners right after a switch is never made up for on the other end after the multiport leaves that particular pool.  In order to make up for this, I'd either need to move down to an extremely low round time (e.g. 20 seconds) or make the round much longer.

For now I have dramatically increased the round time on many coins in an attempt to spread the rewards more fairly.  I've also increased the amount of time that the Multiport will stay on some coins before moving off.

Litecoin: 24h
FTC, NVC: 6h
DGC, WDC, CGB, MNC: 1h

I believe this should increase profits for the multiport miners to more closely match the calculated profitability.

No quite sure I like this. Digicoin frequently pops to 1500% bitcoin for about 2 hours. This could be missed completely if mining LTC, FTC, NVC.

I don't see why you would have to go more than 2 hours static on a coin.

Personally I will not get caught in this trap. Manual mining for now. Quite happy manual mining CGB at the moment.

[paulm]

No quite sure I like this. Digicoin frequently pops to 1500% bitcoin for about 2 hours. This could be missed completely if mining LTC, FTC, NVC.

I don't see why you would have to go more than 2 hours static on a coin.

Personally I will not get caught in this trap. Manual mining for now. Quite happy manual mining CGB at the moment.

You misunderstand what flound is saying. The Mulipool can switch coins just as often as before, the round time has nothing to do with switching.

Besides, he has since switched to a proportional system which I believe doesn't even use round times.

[fredeq]

I believe that with newest proportional round time is set to 7 days for all coins.

[zepadee]

No quite sure I like this. Digicoin frequently pops to 1500% bitcoin for about 2 hours. This could be missed completely if mining LTC, FTC, NVC.

I don't see why you would have to go more than 2 hours static on a coin.

Personally I will not get caught in this trap. Manual mining for now. Quite happy manual mining CGB at the moment.

You misunderstand what flound is saying. The Mulipool can switch coins just as often as before, the round time has nothing to do with switching.

Besides, he has since switched to a proportional system which I believe doesn't even use round times.

Oh ok, I misunderstood then thanks. My apologies to Flound.

[zepadee]

I believe that with newest proportional round time is set to 7 days for all coins.

Not quite sure what that means. Splain ? (sorry for the newbness).

[murraypaul]

We need an explanation from someone who actually knows what is happening, rather than just guessing.

[flound1129]

The new system is proportional.  Everything I posted earlier about the increased round times is no longer applicable.  That was only in place until I could get the new proportional system up and running.

The only modification I have made is to spread the payment over a few blocks on the really fast coins.  Other than that it's straight proportional.

[flound1129]

The new scoring (proportional) system is in place.  It was actually simpler than I thought it would be and I did not need to change the DB almost at all.  Also, payout calculations have improved in performance.

I keep 7 days worth of shares in the DB, so unless a block takes more than 7 days to find, all shares submitted will be paid.

That was fast, thanks Flound. Did you remove all the handicaps and the minimum time to mine certain coins coins since this isn't necessary anymore using a proportional system. You should simply have a minimum difference before the multipool switches from one coin to another to prevent it rapidly switching, say 1%.

The minimum mining time never had anything to do with the scoring system, it was only to make sure we didn't switch too often.

The handicaps are in place to make calculated profitability more accurate.

[imrer]

Sounds cool, how long does it take to build site like that?

[captainfuture]

Sounds cool, how long does it take to build site like that?

better dont ask him 

[flound1129]

Sounds cool, how long does it take to build site like that?

Uh, we started in April.

[paulm]

The handicaps are in place to make calculated profitability more accurate.

Yes, but didn't you increase the handicap on LTC to prevent the multipool from switching to it unless it was significantly more profitable?