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August 31, 2017, 04:28:55 AM
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Definitely!  We cannot play properly if we do not analyze the game.  Winning strategy aside, you cannot set your bet if you do not analyze how to work with the game interface.  And for most gambling player here, in order to have an advantage against their opponent, they always analyze the movement and facial expression of the opposing player.
what you say is true but not for gamblers who gamble for fun because of some of my friends there are like that they carelessly put a bet without analyzing. myself if had to gamble should analyze first because it's the first step to win.

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August 31, 2017, 05:15:50 AM
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Definitely!  We cannot play properly if we do not analyze the game.  Winning strategy aside, you cannot set your bet if you do not analyze how to work with the game interface.  And for most gambling player here, in order to have an advantage against their opponent, they always analyze the movement and facial expression of the opposing player.

What you are talking about is generally only applicable for the cards game. Rest of the games like slot machines, roulette etc are all luck based games where there is no analyzing is required because its being played against the machine and also those probably are already being scripted in a certain way that analyzing will not help .

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August 31, 2017, 06:00:58 AM
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Analysis can be useful when you gamble on sports. Statistics and numbers are really helpful because unlike the others type of gambling, sports gambling do not depend 100% on luck.

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August 31, 2017, 06:45:15 AM
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Definitely!  We cannot play properly if we do not analyze the game.  Winning strategy aside, you cannot set your bet if you do not analyze how to work with the game interface.  And for most gambling player here, in order to have an advantage against their opponent, they always analyze the movement and facial expression of the opposing player.
what you say is true but not for gamblers who gamble for fun because of some of my friends there are like that they carelessly put a bet without analyzing. myself if had to gamble should analyze first because it's the first step to win.
I think that they are really having fun at all and not aiming to earn, they can play in amusement sportszone and other fun games but in gambling it is such wasting of money which is not too far from amusement games tgat are similar to it. however the card games and sportsbet is not available there.


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August 31, 2017, 06:57:11 AM
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In sport gambling i do analysis, although sometimes lose. However, when compared to dice gambling, my analysis hasn't effect either. Of those two things, i am more interested in gambling dice as it's easier and faster to gain profit.
The dice game is easier to play but you said you gain profit how it is possible for you. even I played this game, but I did not make any profit in this game. Actually in this game making profit is a big task. Why because it is not a skilled game just roll and wait. If our fate is good, we will make a profit. So you are making a profit means you are the lucky guy in gambling. Any particular strategy you use to win money or a random game. If any strategies are there let us know we will also try and make money.
easy to play doesn't mean could give you an easy profit . sometimes people misunderstanding about that , lured too early and just suffering lost in the end. i always prefer a skills based games like sportsbetting where an analysis could make your win rates increasing , everyone who did this would know how the feeling analysis affected your prediction , where dice completely can't be predicted.

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August 31, 2017, 08:06:42 AM
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Just want know how much the gamblers who use analysis when play gambling and what kinds of gambling game? And do you think it is needed or not making analysis on gambling game or it is depend on lucky. Thanks for share your opinions and experience.
Analysis is the number one you need when you want to gamble because if you can't use your analization skills you will lose. Gambling involves not only money but also your mental abilities. If you want to win you need to think deeply.
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August 31, 2017, 08:37:13 AM
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I failed much time by using analysis and repeatedly I tried all types of analysis along with my friends. The only way we can make money through gambling one should have pure luck.
Victory is still determined by luck, analysis will not mean anything if we are not lucky. But I think we still have to analyze because with the analysis means we are trying to find a victory, give confidence to us to choose and we do not put bets for things that are very random.
Basically, there are some bets that we can win by doing a little analysis like sport bets and for casino bets it is poker. Still there exists a room for the unpredictable. Anyhow, I personally have faith that gambling is all about luck. You cannot avoid defeat for long and it should be played just for the sake of fun.
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August 31, 2017, 08:40:48 AM
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There is always the analytic type of guy and some do believe in superstition.
I do analyze the game specially with dice even though I lose sometimes because of greed.
I bet low when I know I have won a streak for a high amount.
I will try to see if there will be a streak also of loss with just a low amount.
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August 31, 2017, 09:13:44 AM
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Definitely!  We cannot play properly if we do not analyze the game.  Winning strategy aside, you cannot set your bet if you do not analyze how to work with the game interface.  And for most gambling player here, in order to have an advantage against their opponent, they always analyze the movement and facial expression of the opposing player.

What you are talking about is generally only applicable for the cards game. Rest of the games like slot machines, roulette etc are all luck based games where there is no analyzing is required because its being played against the machine and also those probably are already being scripted in a certain way that analyzing will not help .


Not scripted but everything depends on luck that is why we dont need analysis in that kind of game. Somehow if we play for fun then we dont even need any analysis in the card game as well but that depends on the person. If you wish to do analysis then do it because it will not really going to make us get more fun if you play for fun
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August 31, 2017, 09:17:04 AM
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How can you use analysis while gambling?

Gambling is truly based on luck, I think that you mismatch and meant to say "trading" which is much different and you can predict the market behavior based on graphs and open order books.

Gambling is not based on skills so you can't make analysts in order to win.
 
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August 31, 2017, 09:37:14 AM
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How can you use analysis while gambling?

Gambling is truly based on luck, I think that you mismatch and meant to say "trading" which is much different and you can predict the market behavior based on graphs and open order books.

Gambling is not based on skills so you can't make analysts in order to win.
 

No skills or analysis will help you to always win in gambling, that's true, but with skills you can be winning more than losing, in poker, for example. Of course luck is a crucial factor. Even in poker you can't win without being lucky from time to time.

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August 31, 2017, 09:47:20 AM
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How can you use analysis while gambling?

Gambling is truly based on luck, I think that you mismatch and meant to say "trading" which is much different and you can predict the market behavior based on graphs and open order books.

Gambling is not based on skills so you can't make analysts in order to win.
 

No skills or analysis will help you to always win in gambling, that's true, but with skills you can be winning more than losing, in poker, for example. Of course luck is a crucial factor. Even in poker you can't win without being lucky from time to time.
How can you prove it? in poker its more than the skills and it depends on your opponent thats why i much prefer to play in the real casinos than online because i have a greater chance to use my skills and analysis to win in a game.


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August 31, 2017, 06:40:57 PM
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Definitely!  We cannot play properly if we do not analyze the game.  Winning strategy aside, you cannot set your bet if you do not analyze how to work with the game interface.  And for most gambling player here, in order to have an advantage against their opponent, they always analyze the movement and facial expression of the opposing player.

What you are talking about is generally only applicable for the cards game. Rest of the games like slot machines, roulette etc are all luck based games where there is no analyzing is required because its being played against the machine and also those probably are already being scripted in a certain way that analyzing will not help .

You are mostly correct but this is not always the case, I remember seeing back in the day a show that talked about the different ways that people cheated on gambling and one of the m was that a gambler realized a certain pattern when he was playing video poker and he made a lot of money doing that, so like you see making an analysis can pay off even when you think the game is completely random.

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September 01, 2017, 12:46:42 AM
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Definitely!  We cannot play properly if we do not analyze the game.  Winning strategy aside, you cannot set your bet if you do not analyze how to work with the game interface.  And for most gambling player here, in order to have an advantage against their opponent, they always analyze the movement and facial expression of the opposing player.

What you are talking about is generally only applicable for the cards game. Rest of the games like slot machines, roulette etc are all luck based games where there is no analyzing is required because its being played against the machine and also those probably are already being scripted in a certain way that analyzing will not help .

You are mostly correct but this is not always the case, I remember seeing back in the day a show that talked about the different ways that people cheated on gambling and one of the m was that a gambler realized a certain pattern when he was playing video poker and he made a lot of money doing that, so like you see making an analysis can pay off even when you think the game is completely random.

The use of analysis is the only way to avoid heavy defeats, but many people who only assume half and more use of harsh speculation making it difficult to win, it is true this does not apply to the game dice but there are some suggestion patterns we can do for the odds.

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September 01, 2017, 12:54:32 AM
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Analysis can be useful when you gamble on sports. Statistics and numbers are really helpful because unlike the others type of gambling, sports gambling do not depend 100% on luck.
It's true if we gamble in sports can use the statistics of the two clubs that will compete to be able to conclude who will be the winner. but anything can happen in the field
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September 01, 2017, 04:34:01 AM
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Just want know how much the gamblers who use analysis when play gambling and what kinds of gambling game? And do you think it is needed or not making analysis on gambling game or it is depend on lucky. Thanks for share your opinions and experience.
I've never analyzed gambling. How can they be analyzed at all, if everything depends on luck? I think that all these analyzes will not give any result in the game.
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September 01, 2017, 05:03:39 AM
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Definitely!  We cannot play properly if we do not analyze the game.  Winning strategy aside, you cannot set your bet if you do not analyze how to work with the game interface.  And for most gambling player here, in order to have an advantage against their opponent, they always analyze the movement and facial expression of the opposing player.

What you are talking about is generally only applicable for the cards game. Rest of the games like slot machines, roulette etc are all luck based games where there is no analyzing is required because its being played against the machine and also those probably are already being scripted in a certain way that analyzing will not help .

You are mostly correct but this is not always the case, I remember seeing back in the day a show that talked about the different ways that people cheated on gambling and one of the m was that a gambler realized a certain pattern when he was playing video poker and he made a lot of money doing that, so like you see making an analysis can pay off even when you think the game is completely random.

There are no pattern at all. He might be lucky to do it and win it however he cant keep on winning with the same method. n the end every analysis is going to be beaten up by luck. If you are not lucky then you will lose the game, it is as simple as that yet people keep thinking of various method to make it works
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September 01, 2017, 09:59:51 AM
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How can you use analysis while gambling?

Gambling is truly based on luck, I think that you mismatch and meant to say "trading" which is much different and you can predict the market behavior based on graphs and open order books.

Gambling is not based on skills so you can't make analysts in order to win.
 

No skills or analysis will help you to always win in gambling, that's true, but with skills you can be winning more than losing, in poker, for example. Of course luck is a crucial factor. Even in poker you can't win without being lucky from time to time.
How can you prove it? in poker its more than the skills and it depends on your opponent thats why i much prefer to play in the real casinos than online because i have a greater chance to use my skills and analysis to win in a game.

Do you mean the "hand reading skills"? Are you even serious? If you could do that you'd be you'd be a millionaire by now. Hand reading skills is a myth. No one has it. Even the best pokers players in the world don't have it and there are a lot of proves about this on youtube. Check out PokerStars championships or the PokerXpress channel on youtube or others and you'll see it yourself.

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No, I do not use analysis. Gambling is created only for pleasure, not for profit that can be analyzed. Even in sports betting I used analysis, but this did not help to get a constant profit.

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