Alex Jones and Trump

[Fireblazer]

What is your guys opinion on Alex Jones?

He is a very energetic fellow, straightforward and gets to the point. But can he be trusted? He openly supports Trump and hates globalists from what he says in his videos. I want to believe and support Alex Jones and believe that it is the right thing to do, but I am not sure who to trust anymore. One thing is for sure. I do not trust the mainstream media, liberal or republican,but why should I trust the non-mainstream media?

Thoughts?

I don't think Alex really knows what Trump is capable of. After seeing what he is doing and how he talks to others in his government I doubt he will last long. He seems to be making enemies of everyone that doesn't do as he wants. This can only lead to massive troubles for the US and probably the rest of the world.

As for Alex's show well, its okay I guess. I stopped watching his stuff and all conspiracy stuff for a long time now. Its just a waste of time.

In his speeches and decrees of the President of Trump provokes scandals and pits people and countries together. This increases the rankings in the show, but very bad for policy. The consequences will be bad.

[BADecker]

Conspiracy Theorist Alex Jones Apologizes For Promoting 'Pizzagate'

Longtime conspiracy theorist and propagator Alex Jones has apologized to the Washington, D.C. pizzeria Comet Ping Pong and its owner James Alefantis for his show's role in promoting the false "pizzagate" conspiracy theory involving a child sex-abuse ring.

Jones, the host of the radio and web show bearing his name and the owner of the website Infowars, said from a prepared statement that to his knowledge, "neither Mr. Alefantis, nor his restaurant Comet Ping Pong, were involved in any human trafficking as was part of the theories about Pizzagate that were being written about in many media outlets and which we commented upon."

MEDIA

Radio Conspiracy Theorist Claims Ear Of Trump, Pushes 'Pizzagate' Fictions

He continued: "I want our viewers and listeners to know that we regret any negative impact our commentaries may have had on Mr. Alefantis, Comet Ping Pong, or its employees. We apologize to the extent our commentaries could be construed as negative statements about Mr. Alefantis or Comet Ping Pong, and we hope that anyone else involved in commenting on Pizzagate will do the same thing."

Jones' apology Friday came the same day a 28-year-old man pleaded guilty to charges related to a December incident when he brought an AR-15 rifle and other weapons into the restaurant and fired shots inside. Edgar Maddison Welch, of Salisbury, N.C., said he drove from his home to the Washington restaurant to "self-investigate" the conspiracy theory.

Read more at http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/26/521545788/conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-apologizes-for-promoting-pizzagate.

[GreenBits]

What is your guys opinion on Alex Jones?

He is a very energetic fellow, straightforward and gets to the point. But can he be trusted? He openly supports Trump and hates globalists from what he says in his videos. I want to believe and support Alex Jones and believe that it is the right thing to do, but I am not sure who to trust anymore. One thing is for sure. I do not trust the mainstream media, liberal or republican,but why should I trust the non-mainstream media?

Thoughts?

I don't think Alex really knows what Trump is capable of. After seeing what he is doing and how he talks to others in his government I doubt he will last long. He seems to be making enemies of everyone that doesn't do as he wants. This can only lead to massive troubles for the US and probably the rest of the world.

As for Alex's show well, its okay I guess. I stopped watching his stuff and all conspiracy stuff for a long time now. Its just a waste of time.

In his speeches and decrees of the President of Trump provokes scandals and pits people and countries together. This increases the rankings in the show, but very bad for policy. The consequences will be bad.

As I have said before, Alex Jones is a fearmonger, plain and simple. There is no positivity from that camp. Only paranoia. It wasn't so bad when it was just conspiracy theory, as the audience didn't really participate in mainstream society for the most part, and couldn't influence policy through votes. Now that this has gotten a more prominent voice in mainstream American media ( becuase in this day and age, InfoWars is news, while CNN gets lambasted as false), some of his listener actually vote, and I think that he is partially responsible for the current wave of populism/anti government sentiment. We elected a guy that said from the beginning he wasnt a politician. It's like hiring a dentist to fix your car.

[BADecker]

What is your guys opinion on Alex Jones?

He is a very energetic fellow, straightforward and gets to the point. But can he be trusted? He openly supports Trump and hates globalists from what he says in his videos. I want to believe and support Alex Jones and believe that it is the right thing to do, but I am not sure who to trust anymore. One thing is for sure. I do not trust the mainstream media, liberal or republican,but why should I trust the non-mainstream media?

Thoughts?

I don't think Alex really knows what Trump is capable of. After seeing what he is doing and how he talks to others in his government I doubt he will last long. He seems to be making enemies of everyone that doesn't do as he wants. This can only lead to massive troubles for the US and probably the rest of the world.

As for Alex's show well, its okay I guess. I stopped watching his stuff and all conspiracy stuff for a long time now. Its just a waste of time.

In his speeches and decrees of the President of Trump provokes scandals and pits people and countries together. This increases the rankings in the show, but very bad for policy. The consequences will be bad.

As I have said before, Alex Jones is a fearmonger, plain and simple. There is no positivity from that camp. Only paranoia. It wasn't so bad when it was just conspiracy theory, as the audience didn't really participate in mainstream society for the most part, and couldn't influence policy through votes. Now that this has gotten a more prominent voice in mainstream American media ( becuase in this day and age, InfoWars is news, while CNN gets lambasted as false), some of his listener actually vote, and I think that he is partially responsible for the current wave of populism/anti government sentiment. We elected a guy that said from the beginning he wasnt a politician. It's like hiring a dentist to fix your car.

It is not as cut and dried as that.

Alex Jones expresses much truth. Yet, being a man, he can and does make mistakes at times.

The truth that Alex Jones expresses is warnings for us. And, since he warns us, the people who want to harm us often back off, because they realize their gig has been exposed, and we will take action if they try to make it real. So, they back off, and Alex Jones looks a little foolish for even suggesting that they were doing something, since what Alex said didn't happen.

But if Alex had NOT warned us, they would have gone through with their operation, and we would have been worse off for it.

There are many others besides Alex Jones. Another great one is Dave Hodges.

[DeanShow]

What President such as he and supporters. I can't even talk about. All that said Trump and his supporters is nonsense. I see that Trump is losing his war in the Senate. He's already lost the restriction on the entry of Muslims, the abolition of medical reform of Obama. Not subside scandals Affairs of his team with the Kremlin. What does he have to do to get people turned away from him. Alex Jones of same sells Russian journalist. As they say "Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are".

[BADecker]

What President such as he and supporters. I can't even talk about. All that said Trump and his supporters is nonsense. I see that Trump is losing his war in the Senate. He's already lost the restriction on the entry of Muslims, the abolition of medical reform of Obama. Not subside scandals Affairs of his team with the Kremlin. What does he have to do to get people turned away from him. Alex Jones of same sells Russian journalist. As they say "Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are".

The fact that Trump lost some things shows that all Presidents are nonsense.

Obama was out after his two terms. Who else is there that would be any better than Trump or Obama? Nobody that was likely to get elected.

If Hillary got elected, she probably would have extended the time before the crash longer than Trump will. But her crash would be far more sever than Trump's will, just because of the extension.

Sanders would have brought about formal rebellion by trying to implement stuff in the way Hitler did.

Who else is there?

[frankbit]

What President such as he and supporters. I can't even talk about. All that said Trump and his supporters is nonsense. I see that Trump is losing his war in the Senate. He's already lost the restriction on the entry of Muslims, the abolition of medical reform of Obama. Not subside scandals Affairs of his team with the Kremlin. What does he have to do to get people turned away from him. Alex Jones of same sells Russian journalist. As they say "Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are".

The fact that Trump lost some things shows that all Presidents are nonsense.

Obama was out after his two terms. Who else is there that would be any better than Trump or Obama? Nobody that was likely to get elected.

If Hillary got elected, she probably would have extended the time before the crash longer than Trump will. But her crash would be far more sever than Trump's will, just because of the extension.

Sanders would have brought about formal rebellion by trying to implement stuff in the way Hitler did.

Who else is there?

Fortunately there is Congress and the Senate. No matter who is President, but in America there is a system of balances. Moreover, in America there is an independent judiciary. He, too, is haunted senile Trump.

[BADecker]

What President such as he and supporters. I can't even talk about. All that said Trump and his supporters is nonsense. I see that Trump is losing his war in the Senate. He's already lost the restriction on the entry of Muslims, the abolition of medical reform of Obama. Not subside scandals Affairs of his team with the Kremlin. What does he have to do to get people turned away from him. Alex Jones of same sells Russian journalist. As they say "Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are".

The fact that Trump lost some things shows that all Presidents are nonsense.

Obama was out after his two terms. Who else is there that would be any better than Trump or Obama? Nobody that was likely to get elected.

If Hillary got elected, she probably would have extended the time before the crash longer than Trump will. But her crash would be far more sever than Trump's will, just because of the extension.

Sanders would have brought about formal rebellion by trying to implement stuff in the way Hitler did.

Who else is there?

Fortunately there is Congress and the Senate. No matter who is President, but in America there is a system of balances. Moreover, in America there is an independent judiciary. He, too, is haunted senile Trump.

Congress isn't in favor of the people any more than the president might be. And people don't know how to fight either the president or congress. All people do is protest, thereby showing that they aren't making use of their authority.

[Discovery 17]

What President such as he and supporters. I can't even talk about. All that said Trump and his supporters is nonsense. I see that Trump is losing his war in the Senate. He's already lost the restriction on the entry of Muslims, the abolition of medical reform of Obama. Not subside scandals Affairs of his team with the Kremlin. What does he have to do to get people turned away from him. Alex Jones of same sells Russian journalist. As they say "Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are".

The fact that Trump lost some things shows that all Presidents are nonsense.

Obama was out after his two terms. Who else is there that would be any better than Trump or Obama? Nobody that was likely to get elected.

If Hillary got elected, she probably would have extended the time before the crash longer than Trump will. But her crash would be far more sever than Trump's will, just because of the extension.

Sanders would have brought about formal rebellion by trying to implement stuff in the way Hitler did.

Who else is there?

Fortunately there is Congress and the Senate. No matter who is President, but in America there is a system of balances. Moreover, in America there is an independent judiciary. He, too, is haunted senile Trump.

Congress isn't in favor of the people any more than the president might be. And people don't know how to fight either the president or congress. All people do is protest, thereby showing that they aren't making use of their authority.

All politicians do nothing for the people. People are interested in them only during elections, but then when they get power in their hands they forget about their promises and exclusively devoted to their challenges. Unfortunately, so are the politics.

[squatz1]

The one problem I've always had with Alex Jones and some of the people on the far right / alt right movement is that they don't really know when to be serious and when to joke around. They mix the two things way to much to the point of people not being able to understand what they're saying which leads to people not taking them seriously.

I do think Alex Jones is very passionate about what he does, he may put out a false story or two but at least it's less then CNN and the other fake news stories. Personally, I'm not a fan of reading nor listenting to him as I don't like to confirm what I already believe.

I'd like to see many opposing viewpoints and see what I take in.

[tvbcof]

The one problem I've always had with Alex Jones and some of the people on the far right / alt right movement is that they don't really know when to be serious and when to joke around. They mix the two things way to much to the point of people not being able to understand what they're saying which leads to people not taking them seriously.

I do think Alex Jones is very passionate about what he does, he may put out a false story or two but at least it's less then CNN and the other fake news stories. Personally, I'm not a fan of reading nor listenting to him as I don't like to confirm what I already believe.

I'd like to see many opposing viewpoints and see what I take in.

Valuable critique.  Thanks for stating it.

For my part I know that I listen to more of Infowars work lately than I wish (particularly because it cuts into my time of studying the works of others.)  Trouble is, they are doing a lot of decent work by virtue of having good sources and doing good field work at the moment compared to their less well funded competition.

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As a separate post:

My view of Jones is that he knows who not to cross.  It is an ongoing source of interest to me to figure out whether he pulls his punches in certain instances because he is weighing the cost/benefit (and if so he is probably making reasonable calculations), or whether he is a phony who is working on embedding himself deeply.  If the latter, he's done so to an impressive degree thus far.

The answer to the riddle will only be known for sure in retrospect.  In the mean time we just have to watch for various clues.  For my part I'm actively entertaining both options and others.  I resolve to not be herded in any direction without some degree of thought.

[tvbcof]

Jones lost primary custody of his kids to his ex wife who (accd to Jones) is finally out of re-hab or whatever.  I'd say that Jones continues to learn about the Jewdicial system here in the USI, and I suspect he'll keep on learning.

Jones publicly 'councils' Trump to fight back and don't compromise because his adversaries are not going to give him a break...though that was back when people genuinely thought that Trump might be 'for real.'  It will be interesting to see if Jones finally takes his own advice, or whether he and his Inforwars outfit continue to act as gatekeepers protecting the Zionist masters as Rebecca drags the kids off to Marina Abramovic 'spirit cooking' events and whatever else is calculated to get Jones' goat.  Hopefully the poor kids survive without to much damage.

[popcorn1]

Jones lost primary custody of his kids to his ex wife who (accd to Jones) is finally out of re-hab or whatever.  I'd say that Jones continues to learn about the Jewdicial system here in the USI, and I suspect he'll keep on learning.

Jones publicly 'councils' Trump to fight back and don't compromise because his adversaries are not going to give him a break...though that was back when people genuinely thought that Trump might be 'for real.'  It will be interesting to see if Jones finally takes his own advice, or whether he and his Inforwars outfit continue to act as gatekeepers protecting the Zionist masters as Rebecca drags the kids off to Marina Abramovic 'spirit cooking' events and whatever else is calculated to get Jones' goat.  Hopefully the poor kids survive without to much damage.

back when people genuinely thought that Trump might be 'for real..
You said it  " MIGHT "

Might win the lottery  .

But you must understand if Clinton would of won 15 to 20 years before you NOW understand because trump win that nothing will change UNLESS you the American people change the system..

Trump is much better than Clinton..
When she said she means one thing in public and another in private that says it all.
2 faced liar ..

Now you got 3 half years to VOTE for a real politician who does care for the people..
BUT still Trump might do something good yet give him 2 years and if not vote for a real people politician

But can you vote for someone the people want or is it always the money people who fix it..

TOTAL CAPITALISM ..Is a dog eat dog world it will also creates a world full of liars ..
Always lying to get money <TOTAL CAPITALISM ..

Under fund they lie .
need funding they lie..
politicians they lie to rob our taxes.
people stealing they lie..
How many hours did you work they lie..Pay less tax.
Sickness benefits they lie..Oh i am sicker than i really am..

TOTAL CAPITALISM ..WE NEED TO LIE..
So we have a planet FULL OF GREEDY LIARS..Total capitalism and you Americans LOVE IT..
But some are better liars than others and get away with MURDER.<POLITICIANS ..

A lot different than mary saying she only worked 10 hours instead of 20 in case the benefit system stops her working tax credits..

But you see we create liars..Mary with her tax credits..
Tony blair made millions off people dying..Mary never..

[ananas99]

Jones lost primary custody of his kids to his ex wife who (accd to Jones) is finally out of re-hab or whatever.  I'd say that Jones continues to learn about the Jewdicial system here in the USI, and I suspect he'll keep on learning.

Jones publicly 'councils' Trump to fight back and don't compromise because his adversaries are not going to give him a break...though that was back when people genuinely thought that Trump might be 'for real.'  It will be interesting to see if Jones finally takes his own advice, or whether he and his Inforwars outfit continue to act as gatekeepers protecting the Zionist masters as Rebecca drags the kids off to Marina Abramovic 'spirit cooking' events and whatever else is calculated to get Jones' goat.  Hopefully the poor kids survive without to much damage.

back when people genuinely thought that Trump might be 'for real..
You said it  " MIGHT "

Might win the lottery  .

But you must understand if Clinton would of won 15 to 20 years before you NOW understand because trump win that nothing will change UNLESS you the American people change the system..

Trump is much better than Clinton..
When she said she means one thing in public and another in private that says it all.
2 faced liar ..

Now you got 3 half years to VOTE for a real politician who does care for the people..
BUT still Trump might do something good yet give him 2 years and if not vote for a real people politician

But can you vote for someone the people want or is it always the money people who fix it..

TOTAL CAPITALISM ..Is a dog eat dog world it will also creates a world full of liars ..
Always lying to get money <TOTAL CAPITALISM ..

Under fund they lie .
need funding they lie..
politicians they lie to rob our taxes.
people stealing they lie..
How many hours did you work they lie..Pay less tax.
Sickness benefits they lie..Oh i am sicker than i really am..

TOTAL CAPITALISM ..WE NEED TO LIE..
So we have a planet FULL OF GREEDY LIARS..Total capitalism and you Americans LOVE IT..
But some are better liars than others and get away with MURDER.<POLITICIANS ..

A lot different than mary saying she only worked 10 hours instead of 20 in case the benefit system stops her working tax credits..

But you see we create liars..Mary with her tax credits..
Tony blair made millions off people dying..Mary never..

Trump is very cynical by nature, but at the same time this person can and will do much for the country. Of course, in my understanding, the country and people are different things.

[Moloch]

This thread is too funny

I can't believe all the idiots on here who listen to Alex Jones

Guy is a total con-man selling you snake oil... he doesn't even try to hide it

Fact check ANYTHING he says...

I've seen a few of his videos, and can't go more than 2 minutes without catching him talking out his ass

Seriously... watch him for 2 minutes and use google to fact check whatever he says... he'll be wrong/lying at least once every 2 minutes... guaranteed

In court he even admitted he is "He is playing a character"... "He is a performance artist."

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/329071-alex-jones-playing-a-character-says-lawyer

He also claims U.S. moon landings were faked and that the government faked the Sandy Hook Elementary School mass shooting using actors.

He also pushed the “Pizzagate” conspiracy that maintained Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and campaign chairman John Podesta were operating a child sex trafficking ring run out of a Washington, D.C., pizzeria

Come on guys... how can you take this shitbag seriously?
Use your fucking brains

[popcorn1]

Bernie Sanders BRILLIANT takedown of Trump's First 100 Days In Office
Video for bernie sanders brilliant takedown of trumps first 100 days▶ 18:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmR6XYVEKWI
3 hours ago - Uploaded by Politics Video Channel

Now to Mr Bernie sanders ..You can say what you like about trump BUT YOU YES YOU are a stinking
politician you get out of politics you horrible PIG..Bernie is a traitor to the people so he no different..

You can talk all the talk BERNIE but you are a load of SHIT..SO GO YOU OLD FOOL ..

Now i will tell you why..

You knew Hillary Clinton fixed the election so she could win your seat and YOU SAID NOTHING..

You should of had her in court and got her done for FRAUD but you never you let her win and said nothing.
And then even stood by her when she was on her campaign to be president..

YOU SCUM BAG..You had the CHANCE to show the world what went on and you stuck by her..RAT.

THAT MAKE YOU THE SAME AS THE REST ..Greedy liars..
You stuck up for the elite..OH YES YOU DID BERNIE..

So GO OLD MAN..TALKING THE TALK ..BUT FULL OF SHIT..

You could of brought her down BUT YOU NEVER..RAT BAG..

[ownageplocks]

I do listen to Alex Jones on a regular basis(every night) and feel that he does deliver a powerful message. I don't believe the mainstream media any longer and he does report the news in a different and interesting way. Sometimes I do believe he goes off the deep end but in the end he does report the news in an interesting and easy to follow way. I understand where some people are coming from when they say he is crazy, maybe I'm crazy too.

[Userperson321]

I don't think Alex Jones can be trusted. Then again I'm the kind of person who doesn't trust anyone anyway but his accusations are often completely uneducated and I don't trust his sources. He also has now said that a large part of the way he acts is for entertainment so I think my suspicions are rooted enough in fact to be logical.

[tvbcof]

I do listen to Alex Jones on a regular basis(every night) and feel that he does deliver a powerful message. I don't believe the mainstream media any longer and he does report the news in a different and interesting way. Sometimes I do believe he goes off the deep end but in the end he does report the news in an interesting and easy to follow way. I understand where some people are coming from when they say he is crazy, maybe I'm crazy too.

I agree with this except that I see no sign of insanity.  I've throttled back my intake of their info and am back to scanning occasionally to see if they have something which is potentially interesting.

I don't think Alex Jones can be trusted. Then again I'm the kind of person who doesn't trust anyone anyway but his accusations are often completely uneducated and I don't trust his sources. He also has now said that a large part of the way he acts is for entertainment so I think my suspicions are rooted enough in fact to be logical.

It may seem odd, but I agree with this as well.  I don't believe that Jones ever tried to pretend that a part of his 'act' was not for 'entertainment' value.  That does not mean he doesn't have a message to get across and often enough it seems like a good message to me.  To the degree that doing it in an entertaining manner is effective, that's not objectionably to me.

My beef with 2017 Jones and Infowars is that they are now fairly clearly acting as gatekeepers for Zionists at least.  Whether they are under duress or being paid off or simply cannot maintain a viable media business at scale by doing otherwise is unknown to me.

That does not mean that they don't produce a lot of good information.  They do.  It DOES mean that their analysis of our complex political landscape is UNRELIABLE and one MUST augment a lot of their work product with external research (or just go on being an ignorant sheep in many areas.)

I do not really trust the Infowars bluster about being 'under attack' from Google and their ilk.  Maybe they are, or maybe it is a ploy to get people to support them more.  It's actually difficult to know without seeing their books and I would not take Jones's word for it.

As I said before, I had supported Infowars financial quite a lot in the later part of the election because I appreciated their on-the-street reporting.  I have quite a collection of books that I wanted anyway from Infowars store, and quite a sample collection of their magic potions.  Having some suspicions about them off and on over the years, I actually didn't plan on actually consuming them and they sit on my shelf unmolested to this day for later use and/or testing and probably will be for some time.

I'll not be buying anything more from Infowars until they get real about Trump and stop being such ass-lickers.  Some of their reporters seem to be trying to.  If they continue to get resistance from Jones (assuming that is happening) I hope they walk like Dykes and Melton did.

[googie4]

The guy is truly delusional. The proof is in the pudding. He had sex with 150 women by the time he was 16? I believe he believes it.