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December 05, 2016, 06:16:58 PM
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personnally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !

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December 05, 2016, 06:36:51 PM
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1. That's illegal :
2. It will crash :
3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it :

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail :

1. Government backed and regulated currencies are manipulated even more than bitcoin with unlimited inflation and US government printing dollars without anything backing it other than simple virtual trust on their economic power.

2. Pure manipulation only can't create such constant growth of bitcoin price, the growth we are seeing is just natural which corresponds to increasing demand where as supply is limited.

3. Anyone clear in its head would buy bitcoin and store it for future.

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale will actually get more success and value that it has right now, more community support means stronger bitcoin network.

 
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December 05, 2016, 06:56:54 PM
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1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet

What is not made explicitly illegal should be considered as implicitly legal. I don't know how this concept is called properly in the legalese, but I'm inclined to think that similar concepts exist in many judicial systems across the world. On the other hand, Bitcoin in pretty well defined and regulated in many countries already. For example, in the US it is officially defined as a tradable commodity by the CFTC (a governing agency that regulates futures and option markets in the US)...

Also, you can buy drugs on the streets, but that doesn't make cash illegal

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December 05, 2016, 07:01:11 PM
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I'm certain the teacher has no formal training in Bitcoin and as such what he says is opinion not fact.
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December 05, 2016, 07:04:10 PM
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1. That's illegal

Just because it's not regulated doesn't mean it was Illegal, Just like in my place.
Bitcoin is not a legit money according to the law but we are still free to do day-to-day bitcoin trade, but don't expect any help from the laws if I got scammed with Bitcoin Tongue

3.Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it
4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail

Tell your Teacher that the Japanese are proposing to use Bitcoin as one of their currency,
In fact, they already started doing that by a simple method to pay for their Utility bills Wink
https://cointelegraph.com/news/japan-officially-recognizes-bitcoin-and-digital-currencies-as-money

I don't have much to say about the second point as he was kinda correct, Bitcoin price can crash anytime as it was volatile currency.
But for now the Bitcoin is pretty calm with the usual high and low Wink
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December 05, 2016, 07:07:59 PM
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Well,that's what's the mainstream media and society is about.It will always present the things not in the right order and we experience that every day all around us.That's why we are the people that should represent BTC in a positive light.We should be the ones spreading the positives about BTC and only then more people will start actually associating BTC with positives.

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December 05, 2016, 07:33:47 PM
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This is exactly the same is the case when a person does not understand what it says. I'm sure he had no practice in this area.
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December 05, 2016, 07:52:59 PM
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I don't think Bitcoin is being discussed in high schools. In Europe I haven't heard of any high school talking about bitcoin, no matter if it is bad talk about it or good talk about it.

I am assuming the only classes where it can be discussed are the information technology classes. I think even if it is so the teacher would not have that much knowledge about bitcoin if he is not a user of it.

Teacher and bitcoin ? Bad combination I would say. So almost nothing is being told about bitcoin in high schools and if it is , certainly is for damaging the image of bitcoin and not the other way around.




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December 06, 2016, 03:48:55 AM
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There are typically no economics or finance classes offered in high school, but it is interesting that the topic was brought up at this level of schooling. It shows that generation of students will be the ones who use it more than any other demographic. Colleges will likely have to implement bitcoin topics into their finance and economics curriculum soon.

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December 06, 2016, 06:56:38 AM
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I do not agree with points 1 and 3. It's not illegal because it's not legal either. We are grown men and we can use whatever we want that is not illegal. And since he brought up the PayPal example you could have said that Steam accept both Bitcoin and PayPal and I am sure there are a lot of very intelligent people there who know what they are doing.

Now points 2 and 4 are somewhat correct. Bitcoin can always crash because it's too volatile. This has been discussed to death but it's true. We could wake up tomorrow and the value could be back to $100. Also when Bitcoin gets more worldwide accepted a lot of local governments and regulators would want to put it into control and that may have a detrimental effect on the technology and lead to its failure. I am not saying this would happen 100% but it's still  possible though unlikely to happen.

I think the teacher is 50% talking out of his ass.

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December 06, 2016, 07:19:39 AM
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal :
2. It will crash :
3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it :
4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail :

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !

The positives - the teacher has at least heard of Bitcoin and has a view. There could be a lot of people who say 'Bitcoin what?'
The negatives - the teacher is so mis-informed about what Bitcoin is. The fallacies (I wouldn't call them arguments) that he has about Bitcoin should be cleared up. I hope the teacher actually does some more reading up on Bitcoin.
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December 06, 2016, 07:26:21 AM
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well that teacher clearly has little understanding of bitcoin and how it works. and i am surprised it was related to studying economics and someone who is teaching that says things like "it is illegal!" maybe that teacher is one of the buthurts who lost money because of fluctuations :d

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December 06, 2016, 07:26:27 AM
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To me it sounds more like the teacher has a personal grudge against bitcoin.

A good teacher would show both the positive and the negative aspects of bitcoin and let the students decide on their own what they think about bitcoin. This is just forcing an opinion down their throats.
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December 06, 2016, 07:27:18 AM
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That teacher is not well educated enough with Bitcoin to say those kind of things. Maybe he just based on his thoughts what he's hearing, the gossip of Bitcoin that it's bad or something. Not knowing the facts first before anything else. I hope he do some fact checking not just talking some crap to talk about Bitcoin. It's annoying.

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December 06, 2016, 07:28:38 AM
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well that teacher clearly has little understanding of bitcoin and how it works. and i am surprised it was related to studying economics and someone who is teaching that says things like "it is illegal!" maybe that teacher is one of the buthurts who lost money because of fluctuations :d

The curriculum on economics for high schools probably hasn't been revised in the last decade or so. So I wouldn't bank too much on the school teacher keeping up with trends in the real world.
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December 06, 2016, 07:44:14 AM
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personnally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !
Everyone can have their own opinions, but my opinions on this teacher is that he/she is a complete retard. Why would they be feeding kids with the completely information? Points 2,3 and 4 are all up for debate, but the first point is not completely true. Bitcoin is not banned in most countries so why does this teacher think it is? Students should be learning the whole truth about Bitcoin, not just what someone thinks about it.
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December 06, 2016, 07:45:09 AM
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i think the teachers is not understand nothing about bitcon and don't know with government too. but here is my reason:

1. he just judge people using bitcoin to buy drugs in dark market but for the reality, not all of the people using bitcoin for negative reason, there are many people using bitcoin for positive reason and the teacher should know about this and could learn more about bitcoin.

2. yes its true if bitcoin will crash but for future, i don't think soo. the value for bitcoin will increase than now and i am sure with many people will understand bitcoin, they will want to use bitcoin and use it as currency like fiat.

3. i think this teacher don't want to open minded that nowadays, the technology is growing so fast and we can not follow if we don't want to understand something that is new for us. and wherever you want to understand about bitcoin, that teacher will not accepted it with your explain and he only said that bitcoin is illegal.

4. if the teacher said Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail then he never see the market of bitcoin and never read about bitcoin news and nothing he can't do with bitcoin.

so my suggestion better you leave that teacher with his mind and better you explain with other people which open minded with new technology especially in the economic currency because in future, the economic will be growth more and people that is not realize about this will be far behind the other peoples.

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Last edit: December 06, 2016, 12:26:08 PM by deisik
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There are typically no economics or finance classes offered in high school, but it is interesting that the topic was brought up at this level of schooling. It shows that generation of students will be the ones who use it more than any other demographic. Colleges will likely have to implement bitcoin topics into their finance and economics curriculum soon.

In fact, many of these students and pupils might be actively posting here earning pocket money while participating in signature campaigns. Most school teachers are not very informed in respect to what happens in the world outside their comfort zone overall. The profession itself requires a certain level of retardness and backwardness, so it is sort of natural selection. If you have been repeating the same shit over and over again for more than twenty years, you will soon lose any interest in anything new (provided you had any in the first place)...

The said doesn't refer to college and university teachers and professors, of course

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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personnally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !

The teacher is such a noob.i suggest you ask your friend teacher to come here and have a discussion with the community on the points he mentioned. Not only will he change his views but will invest also in it. But often even I get it, it's not a regulated currency and what if it crashes. This is general view of people not aware about Bitcoins, it's same as the birds telling monkey to build home before rains come, then rains come and birds mock monkeys and monkey destroy their house, such people are dumb if they can't even understand the basics. I yet say bring the teacher here, we will give him amazing lessons for life.
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personnally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !

"This is illegal"-This is a big fat lie.Bitcoin is legal to use in most countries.

"It will crash"-Bitcoin exists for 7 years without crashing.

"Anyone clear in mind wouldn`t use it"-Obviously we are all idiots....

"....at a bigger scale would fail"-I`m not sure about that. 

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December 06, 2016, 01:06:51 PM
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I'm certain the teacher has no formal training in Bitcoin and as such what he says is opinion not fact.


Yes that is a fact. The way his professor expresses his opinion on bitcoin is biased, he may be a traditional businessman man who is fixated on the traditional market. The economy is moving the same path with technology, that is the missing item that the professor is not looking at. I dont want to curse the professor or speak bad about him, its that he is outdated about the new financial system and he needs to learn more about cryptocurrency rather speaking about its failure.
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Wow. Its exaggerated. They said its illegal. Yes, it is. But only the countries that declared bitcoin is illegal and as long your country doesnt prohibits people to use it. Its not illegal. They said it will crash. Yes, its true. But it is a lower chance that crash may happen because its strong now and more stable than before. You know schools are part of government and they are using it  because they cant control bitcoin. Thats why they spread lies to people to stay away from it.
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It's point 4 that is the interesting one. I don't think that Bitcoin has the potential to become the Phoenix currency when the current fiat currencies start to fail. The UK is creating the TMG ( Royal Mint Gold ) and Russia and China have been buying gold to back their new currencies. I don't think Bitcoin will fail. As it's benefits become more apparent, and it becomes more accepted in the world, it will take a unique place as a flexible world payment system.

It will need to speed up confirmations though, and the best way to do that is to reduce block generation time imho.

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It's just one opinion of one teacher, this doesn't represent what is being told about Bitcoin in High Schools. The title is a bit misleading imo.
I'd also be interested in knowing what an I.T. teacher would say about Bitcoin.

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It's just one opinion of one teacher, this doesn't represent what is being told about Bitcoin in High Schools. The title is a bit misleading imo.
I'd also be interested in knowing what an I.T. teacher would say about Bitcoin.

Everyone have difference of opinion as quoted above. At the same time most of the I.T teachers were unaware of bitcoin existence. Why I strongly describe is that most of the IT people itself not used to bitcoin as well the advancing Blockchain technology.

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3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet

It all depends on the purposes of using Bitcoin

If Bitcoin earns you decent profits, then I would rather say that everyone clear in his head should use it, even if for getting this easy money only. Sometimes, well, actually often times, you should be quick on the trigger so as not to lose an opportunity suddenly coming up. It would be interesting to see if he himself would ignore a sure chance of earning some bucks. Otherwise, nothing is perpetual, and how we deal with that is what ultimately matters

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December 06, 2016, 05:53:01 PM
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your teacher surely does not like this bitcoin. Just because people can buy some drugs and other illigal stuffs they think the whole system is bad and they will do anything to prove it wrong. Its not illigal rbi has verified it
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I'm not sure that anything is told about the bitcoin to the students in high schools. At least not in my country. I can hardly beleive that some high school teachers have ever even heard of bitcoins. Bitcoins is probably not the part of any official school programme, so it depends on teachers themselves how will they present it and if they will present it at all.

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Well they did not know really what is bitcoin since those teachers threaten bitcoin as illegal stuffs online or currency online that use only for buying drugs.. this is what other friends said and my father said maybe this bitcoin is illegal but the reality is not as they thoughts..
If they know bitcoin better i think those answer will be change someday if bitcoin if totally accepting locally by many country they will know the good benefits of bitcoin not only for buying drugs.. that actually many people are using it as legit not in illegal activities..

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I have something for that teacher to read in his free time,

# 1. Digital Bank WB21 is Accepting Bitcoin Deposits.

# 2. Indian Mountain School Accepts Bitcoin Donations.

# 3. SFU is first Canadian university to accept Bitcoin donations.

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I think it is a normal that there is illegal activity in bitcoin and i think even in fiat or our money we can say there is still illegal activities happen like here in my country they can be still buy in drugs without using bitcoin.. so for me it is a normal that teacher say about it or they are holding a books with old history about bitcoin..



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Nice reads. I think they just focus on the bad parts. It's like gossip. When you talk about someone or something and it's bad? You know what's going to happen. It will spread like wildfire. But if it's a good thing, it spreads but not so much. "Easy A" is an example of a movie tackling somewhat on that subject. Spreading bad rumors are fast.

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Kids in High School dont listen to anything. They think they know it all. I wish I was young so I could know everything again!
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Well, this hasn't been studied or researched by many. It's just things the teachers have heard over the news or the Internet. Bitcoin has a bad reputation and when you're new you don't even know what and who to trust anymore. I've been in this situation a few years ago but now I trust it too. It's all about the lying media.
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I think it depends on the country he is living in.In usa i think they dont give much information about bitcoins in high school.But maybe there is some countries that have topics about it
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High school people are very smart on there own. They use bitcoin to buy fake ID's. They teach themselves fast. I would not even worry about them. Its the older people that are difficult.
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :
1. That's illegal :
2. It will crash :
3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it :
4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail :
I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !
The positives - the teacher has at least heard of Bitcoin and has a view. There could be a lot of people who say 'Bitcoin what?'
The negatives - the teacher is so mis-informed about what Bitcoin is. The fallacies (I wouldn't call them arguments) that he has about Bitcoin should be cleared up. I hope the teacher actually does some more reading up on Bitcoin.
Whoever said bitcoin is wrong, it means that they are not trying to find out, most of them only know from reading and watching tv. they don't know because it's not part of his interest. Students have been very smart at this time, we just talked about things that are important about bitcoin, they will find themselves on the internet. This generation will make Bitcoin legal and thrive.

During bitcoin is not regarded as a purely financial crimes. Teachers should not be saying it's wrong, it's misleading.

there will be a lot of things like this that can make a lot of teachers were stunned, just a matter of time.
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December 07, 2016, 08:04:03 AM
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Clearly he's (the teacher) not study first, and directly judge bitcoin network system will be fail back to zero value and exaggerated PayPal is the best payment process.

Well yeah everyone have their opinion, but when they got it wrong, it must be corrected.
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Didn't even know that it was even being discussed in high school yet. Undecided
But it should be a topic taught in university at the very least. In economics first year. Because to me it is a game changer in the world as we know it. Wink
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1. That's illegal : ...
2. It will crash : ...
3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : ...
4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : ...

these are all things that we keep hearing from the FUDsters on the forum so maybe their teacher was one of them that your friend happened to meet face to face.

we all know bitcoin is not yet the perfect thing but none of the problems mean bitcoin will crash or not survive in the future. and besides bitcoin is not illegal, it may not be regulated in most countries but apart from 1 or 2 places it is not illegal in any other place.

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It's too bad to here about that. Anyway, my country does not care about Bitcoin so basically in high schools, no one ever teach about it. And unsurprisingly, the majority of teachers does not even know what is Bitcoin. It is very hilarious. I still wonder how can Bitcoin become a part of my country in the future

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December 07, 2016, 04:28:40 PM
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Well,that's what's the mainstream media and society is about.It will always present the things not in the right order and we experience that every day all around us.That's why we are the people that should represent BTC in a positive light.We should be the ones spreading the positives about BTC and only then more people will start actually associating BTC with positives.

Yup! there are not that many news and information regarding bitcoin out there that is why I think that the government are controlling some public viewing that doesn't really know a thing or two about bitcoin and they are using the mainstream media, school information so that students and other people has no knowledge regarding bitcoin the government really are trying to push back bitcoin as the saying go if they could not control it they will try to destroy it!
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December 07, 2016, 04:45:45 PM
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Your teacher do not have enough knowledge in economy. Real economy is not easy thing, simple teacher knows a little bit and not more. Even people, who have a lot of knowledge in economy, sometimes do not know Bitcoin and Bitcoin market in details.
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It is clear that the teacher doesn't have a depth understanding of the topic but what really intrigues me is  how can a teacher discuss a one sided topic  . A teacher must discuss it without bias and prejudice . It is most likely that bitcoin will have a bad impression to the students even though they dont know it well .

It is surprising that bitcoin is getting discussed in highschool tho .

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December 07, 2016, 05:02:21 PM
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I don't think bitcoin is even being mentioned in schools and if it is, I am sure that it is not all negative and depends on who is talking about bitcoin. If it is a private group talking about economics they will mention the negative and positives of bitcoin. If it is a public speech, probably more negative then positive.

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It is clear that the teacher doesn't have a depth understanding of the topic but what really intrigues me is  how can a teacher discuss a one sided topic  . A teacher must discuss it without bias and prejudice . It is most likely that bitcoin will have a bad impression to the students even though they dont know it well

How long ago did you finish school yourself?

Teachers are the most stubborn types that you may ever meet out there. They may start claiming whatever bullshit, and they will never admit being wrong on that even if they themselves eventually understand what drivel they are spouting. They seemingly fail to understand how ridiculous their attempts at saving face look. Just in case, I've met a few such types here, and some of them are obviously still teaching or had been teaching in the past

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Wow, schools are really damn ignorant about bitcoins and they teach kids these? I hope it's not the governments that control these schools and they don't order schools to teach this. For sure if this was a country wide thing, then the government is in on it. They judge it and teach false statements about something they don't even try to know about, for sure they will teach something wrong.
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December 07, 2016, 05:19:20 PM
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It should come as no surprise that the teacher hasn't a clue. I teach science and at most schools the science is taught by someone with teaching "expertise" but no science background at all. The same is surely true for economics. If that teacher knew about economics s/he would never have pursued a teaching degree.
For those who have not been school in the last 15-20 years you might be shocked to see how much it has changed, and not for the better. All that money that politicians were going to save you by divesting in education is now revealing that, while education is expensive, stupid is even more costly.  

My students get to learn the truth about bitcoin and other stuff, but man do they pay for it. The private schools I teach at charge as much as $90,000 for a 6th. grade education.

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December 07, 2016, 05:28:31 PM
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Wow, schools are really damn ignorant about bitcoins and they teach kids these? I hope it's not the governments that control these schools and they don't order schools to teach this. For sure if this was a country wide thing, then the government is in on it. They judge it and teach false statements about something they don't even try to know about, for sure they will teach something wrong.

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Governments are exactly the ones who are controlling what is being taught in public schools. So don't get surprised when you see a lot of bullshit coming out of these teachers' mouths. I'm not speaking about private schools, since why would you want to pay piles of money for your kid to be taught the same bullshit?

My students get to learn the truth about bitcoin and other stuff, but man do they pay for it. The private schools I teach at charge as much as $90,000 for a 6th. grade education.

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Hi,
It sounds like this is in a non-English speaking country.  At least in many Western countries such as the US (in theory - the socialist authoritarians with help from proto-fascists who want to force people to buy products etc don't like freedom too much) we have a government of enumerated powers, not enumerated liberties.  Just because something isn't specifically allowed, doesn't mean it is illegal.  So bitcoin per se is not illegal.  Some *uses* could be, for example purchasing drugs online.

The rest just sounds like a teacher who knows very little about economics and is anti-freedom among other things.  He should google the purchasing power of major currencies over the past 110 years - even the past 20 years - and see how much inflation rots away the value of a euro, yen or dollar.  Then ask himself if he would use that as a store of value when its value is inflated away.

As far as silver goes, a US silver dime ($0.10 face value) from 1964 is worth about 16 times its face value (~ $1.60) today.  If he considers that to be "stable" he doesn't know the meaning of stable.



Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personnally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !
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December 07, 2016, 05:56:38 PM
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It should come as no surprise that the teacher hasn't a clue. I teach science and at most schools the science is taught by someone with teaching "expertise" but no science background at all. The same is surely true for economics. If that teacher knew about economics s/he would never have pursued a teaching degree.
For those who have not been school in the last 15-20 years you might be shocked to see how much it has changed, and not for the better. All that money that politicians were going to save you by divesting in education is now revealing that, while education is expensive, stupid is even more costly. 

My students get to learn the truth about bitcoin and other stuff, but man do they pay for it. The private schools I teach at charge as much as $90,000 for a 6th. grade education.

I think is take some time to add new content in courses, normally they need to get approved. The school teaches you the basic, but you need to learn a lot by yourself in the real world with real experience.

In the case of bitcoins, if you want to learn, plenty of good books are now available on the subject. My philosophy, don't wait to learn something if you are really interested in it!

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It's too bad to here about that. Anyway, my country does not care about Bitcoin so basically in high schools, no one ever teach about it. And unsurprisingly, the majority of teachers does not even know what is Bitcoin. It is very hilarious. I still wonder how can Bitcoin become a part of my country in the future

Bitcoin is not tackle in High School well specifically in my country, proof is that even a high school teacher does not know what bitcoin is , funny right? And there is no curriculum in high school that gives way to discuss about bitcoin.  
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December 07, 2016, 06:12:48 PM
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In my country, I am quite sure that children do not know what is bitcoin. The school curriculum does not accommodate a cryptocurrency information.
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well the teacher doesnt know about bitcoin.
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December 07, 2016, 08:14:19 PM
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well the teacher doesnt know about bitcoin.
Teachers in this area themselves Dumberer. So you need a specialist in cryptocurrency to teach, or at least to tell others.
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December 07, 2016, 08:14:30 PM
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First time I read that I felt angry because the teacher of economics was so uninformed and backward from the era we live. Secondly, I was starting to laugh because his arguments focus on illegal activities using the internet; So, if the adoption of cryptocurrencies is so difficult for a teacher then how we hope that other people less educated would be persuaded to use it instead of fiat money?
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First time I read that I felt angry because the teacher of economics was so uninformed and backward from the era we live. Secondly, I was starting to laugh because his arguments focus on illegal activities using the internet; So, if the adoption of cryptocurrencies is so difficult for a teacher then how we hope that other people less educated would be persuaded to use it instead of fiat money?
It would be good that the children already had basic training for the work with bitcoin. This would make life easier for parents who have to do with cryptocurrency.
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It's too bad to here about that. Anyway, my country does not care about Bitcoin so basically in high schools, no one ever teach about it. And unsurprisingly, the majority of teachers does not even know what is Bitcoin. It is very hilarious. I still wonder how can Bitcoin become a part of my country in the future

Bitcoin is not tackle in High School well specifically in my country, proof is that even a high school teacher does not know what bitcoin is , funny right? And there is no curriculum in high school that gives way to discuss about bitcoin. 
First of all, the problem would be for teachers. Because you need to properly start and learn the child explains what Bitcoin is and what it needs. Therefore, you can configure the shortage masters in their field.
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It should come as no surprise that the teacher hasn't a clue. I teach science and at most schools the science is taught by someone with teaching "expertise" but no science background at all. The same is surely true for economics. If that teacher knew about economics s/he would never have pursued a teaching degree.
For those who have not been school in the last 15-20 years you might be shocked to see how much it has changed, and not for the better. All that money that politicians were going to save you by divesting in education is now revealing that, while education is expensive, stupid is even more costly. 

My students get to learn the truth about bitcoin and other stuff, but man do they pay for it. The private schools I teach at charge as much as $90,000 for a 6th. grade education.

I think is take some time to add new content in courses, normally they need to get approved. The school teaches you the basic, but you need to learn a lot by yourself in the real world with real experience.

In the case of bitcoins, if you want to learn, plenty of good books are now available on the subject. My philosophy, don't wait to learn something if you are really interested in it!
It depends on what age may be suitable for bitcoin knowledge of science. The fact that not everyone can do it at an early age. Therefore, I am not inclined to rank information cryptocurrency and school science.
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December 08, 2016, 12:03:03 AM
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I will really applaud the teacher of the student not because he is right but because he displayed considerable knowledge of Bitcoin world which I must commend. Although, I have the feelings that he is even more involved than he is letting out and maybe because of the circumstances surrounding the scenerio he has to stick to that position. Over here, even University lecturers know nothing about Bitcoin not to talk of high school teachers as we have in this case so no one talks about it in high school...
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#1 Strawman, because it isn't legal it must be illegal.

#2 Could crash, but the loss of value would be insane and it would be incredibly unlikely for any of it to collapse without a decent amount of warning. A decent argument.

#3 Poor argument, makes no sense and is just "well people wouldn't use it for one reason or another". There is no real argument presented here.

#4 Better argument, probably the best one presented. At a bigger scale, Bitcoin in its current state would fail. Luckily for us, there are developers that can fix this.
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December 08, 2016, 12:47:21 AM
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Unfortunately in my country there is not much talk about bitcoin, and I move in circles where we have a lot of discussions about new technology and people don't even know what it is, they don't have a negative opinion they have no opinion about.
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1. That's illegal

Just because it's not regulated doesn't mean it was Illegal, Just like in my place.
Bitcoin is not a legit money according to the law but we are still free to do day-to-day bitcoin trade, but don't expect any help from the laws if I got scammed with Bitcoin Tongue

3.Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it
4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail

Tell your Teacher that the Japanese are proposing to use Bitcoin as one of their currency,
In fact, they already started doing that by a simple method to pay for their Utility bills Wink
https://cointelegraph.com/news/japan-officially-recognizes-bitcoin-and-digital-currencies-as-money

I don't have much to say about the second point as he was kinda correct, Bitcoin price can crash anytime as it was volatile currency.
But for now the Bitcoin is pretty calm with the usual high and low Wink

 True, it can be gone at any moment, but at this point of time the price so far of bitcoin was pretty cool, so nice to sell it for now.
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It's too bad to here about that. Anyway, my country does not care about Bitcoin so basically in high schools, no one ever teach about it. And unsurprisingly, the majority of teachers does not even know what is Bitcoin. It is very hilarious. I still wonder how can Bitcoin become a part of my country in the future
yes same , no one ever teach about and majority of teachers does not even know what is Bitcoin
i hope entry to arround their , and wanna learn about bitcoin
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It's too bad to here about that. Anyway, my country does not care about Bitcoin so basically in high schools, no one ever teach about it. And unsurprisingly, the majority of teachers does not even know what is Bitcoin. It is very hilarious. I still wonder how can Bitcoin become a part of my country in the future
yes same , no one ever teach about and majority of teachers does not even know what is Bitcoin
i hope entry to arround their , and wanna learn about bitcoin
In my country not too much investors in btc. some of highschool student here know about bitcoin and how it works.some of them use they earn with bitcoin to help there study and parents for there daily needs coz. it's easy to convert it to fiat now here. But it's not teaching in school some hear it in social and ask about bitcoin and learn how to use it.
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December 08, 2016, 10:41:01 AM
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1. Bitcoin is not illegal everywhere. And some countries like Switzerland or England are trying to regulate it nowadays.
2. We don't really know whether it is going to crash. For now it is absolutely impossible to do the encryption and people believe in btc. The price is only growing.
3. I don't understand why normal people wouldn't use it. If he was on of those not using any IT products then fine. Otherwise, it doesn't make sense.
4. Why should it fail at global market? Bitcoin is already getting there and nothing bad happens.

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December 08, 2016, 11:37:35 AM
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Most of the academians I know either dont know nothing about it, or they view it  as  a ponzi scheme. There is some truth to the fact that every financial structure is somehow a ponzi in nature. But its the falacy of academia that view financial structures as not a ponzi when its backed up by other financial structure.

That in fact doesnt make for example a banks a ponzi scheme, its enables bank to create a ponzi schemes on an imaginable scale. So its better to have small ponzi than large if you must.
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Make sure you have a decent stash of bitcoins.  Then at your 10 year reunion show your teacher your Ferrari and say glad I didn't listen to you.  Find a new job teach.
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December 08, 2016, 02:48:52 PM
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Maybe point may be right but In my view 1st and last point are wrong .
How we can say it illegal . If we want use Bitcoin to make some buy of things then first we need to convert Bitcoin into fiat and accept money in bank , So everything is clear here , nothing is illegal .
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December 08, 2016, 02:55:38 PM
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It is clear that the teacher doesn't have a depth understanding of the topic but what really intrigues me is  how can a teacher discuss a one sided topic  . A teacher must discuss it without bias and prejudice . It is most likely that bitcoin will have a bad impression to the students even though they dont know it well

How long ago did you finish school yourself?

Teachers are the most stubborn types that you may ever meet out there. They may start claiming whatever bullshit, and they will never admit being wrong on that even if they themselves eventually understand what drivel they are spouting. They seemingly fail to understand how ridiculous their attempts at saving face look. Just in case, I've met a few such types here, and some of them are obviously still teaching or had been teaching in the past

I agree to much ego i guess.  And since they think that student are far inferior to their knowledge, they can talk any bullshit and pretend that it is the fact which if researched and study brings no relevance to what they are describing.  I wonder when will this teacher just tell their student that they don't know rather than creating fact based in their opinion.
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I think they even don't know and they don't care about bitcoin. Since they are just young enough for this things. I'm in college. One factor that will most certainly determine if bitcoin is a long term success is if the current teenage generation meets it with enthusiasm and interest. Fellow bitcoiners, I can tell you that my fellow peers are very interested.
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December 08, 2016, 03:37:32 PM
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It is clear that the teacher doesn't have a depth understanding of the topic but what really intrigues me is  how can a teacher discuss a one sided topic  . A teacher must discuss it without bias and prejudice . It is most likely that bitcoin will have a bad impression to the students even though they dont know it well

How long ago did you finish school yourself?

Teachers are the most stubborn types that you may ever meet out there. They may start claiming whatever bullshit, and they will never admit being wrong on that even if they themselves eventually understand what drivel they are spouting. They seemingly fail to understand how ridiculous their attempts at saving face look. Just in case, I've met a few such types here, and some of them are obviously still teaching or had been teaching in the past

I agree to much ego i guess.  And since they think that student are far inferior to their knowledge, they can talk any bullshit and pretend that it is the fact which if researched and study brings no relevance to what they are describing.  I wonder when will this teacher just tell their student that they don't know rather than creating fact based in their opinion.

It would be hard for them to accept that they are incompetent if they are asked about something, especially by a kid. They think that saying that they don't know would heavily undermine their authority while in fact telling bullshit and then defending that bullshit undermines it even more, sometimes well past the point of no return. Even some university professors suffer from this plague. You'd better stay away from them altogether since they are often very spiteful at that...

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December 08, 2016, 03:40:09 PM
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It's too bad to here about that. Anyway, my country does not care about Bitcoin so basically in high schools, no one ever teach about it. And unsurprisingly, the majority of teachers does not even know what is Bitcoin. It is very hilarious. I still wonder how can Bitcoin become a part of my country in the future
yes same , no one ever teach about and majority of teachers does not even know what is Bitcoin
i hope entry to arround their , and wanna learn about bitcoin
In my country not too much investors in btc. some of highschool student here know about bitcoin and how it works.some of them use they earn with bitcoin to help there study and parents for there daily needs coz. it's easy to convert it to fiat now here. But it's not teaching in school some hear it in social and ask about bitcoin and learn how to use it.
Well, your country is still better than mine. At least you can convert Bitcoin to Fiat to use it in daily need. In our country, if you want to exchange it to national currency, you will have to contact Bitcoin seller or some exchangers in order to sell Bitcoin to them. It is too complicated. And I have just noticed that in 2017 there will be a new regulation about using Bitcoin here. They try to put tax on it. LOL.

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It's too bad to here about that. Anyway, my country does not care about Bitcoin so basically in high schools, no one ever teach about it. And unsurprisingly, the majority of teachers does not even know what is Bitcoin. It is very hilarious. I still wonder how can Bitcoin become a part of my country in the future
yes same , no one ever teach about and majority of teachers does not even know what is Bitcoin
i hope entry to arround their , and wanna learn about bitcoin

bitcoin is not teach in high school, its been in out side and not many people talking about bitcoin in the corner of coffee shop or in the cafe and its only few people that join in one community in one city that talking about bitcoin. i think it will be interesting if there is any high school that giving the lesson about bitcoin in next year so more people will know bitcoin.

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December 08, 2016, 03:59:33 PM
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I think Bitcoin is kinda a aspect which people must learn by themselves. It is a new technology and innovation which is not widely accepted by people. Schools only teach us some basic knowledge and guide us how to become a good citizen. If you want to know more about Bitcoin, you must learn it online or ask some experts for help.
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December 08, 2016, 04:14:22 PM
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I'm certain the teacher has no formal training in Bitcoin and as such what he says is opinion not fact.


Emm you I agree with you. If we see from how the teacher said the teacher only give a statement with the reason that only from own opinion. Lets we take from first point, in reality not forever bitcoin is use for illegal activities like drugs transactions.

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December 08, 2016, 07:20:12 PM
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Make sure you have a decent stash of bitcoins.  Then at your 10 year reunion show your teacher your Ferrari and say glad I didn't listen to you.  Find a new job teach.

Reminds me of the old saying:  Those who can, do.  Those who can't, teach.
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He said bitcoin is illegal? Idk about that but thats the first itme iv ever heard of the really
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In high school, its mean we want to tell about the bitcoin for the student, Personally, i don't think that it is good idea, because if you ask about college or university than may be i am agree with you, but in school, it is suitable place for bitcoin, because in school life it is not a age of earning, so it is wasting our time, But in one point i am agree with you, and it is that we should do something for publicity of bitcoin.   
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In my country, kids in High Schools were not taught about cryptocurrency, they are more focused on academics, history, Mathematics, Science, Home Economics, Carpentry etc.  Not a single word about bitcoins.  Even teachers are unaware of bitcoin. If someone known it, they think it is a scam or some multi level marketing product.
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In my country, kids in High Schools were not taught about cryptocurrency, they are more focused on academics, history, Mathematics, Science, Home Economics, Carpentry etc.  Not a single word about bitcoins.  Even teachers are unaware of bitcoin. If someone known it, they think it is a scam or some multi level marketing product.
In countries badly broken children's education at a high level. Learn everything you can not even be found in life. Children grow comprehensively broken. Therefore bitcoin can also be implemented for the study.
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In high school, its mean we want to tell about the bitcoin for the student, Personally, i don't think that it is good idea, because if you ask about college or university than may be i am agree with you, but in school, it is suitable place for bitcoin, because in school life it is not a age of earning, so it is wasting our time, But in one point i am agree with you, and it is that we should do something for publicity of bitcoin.   
If we study the modern economy and the financial market in the world, make sure you will be dealt with questions about bitcoin. That's for sure.
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In high school, its mean we want to tell about the bitcoin for the student, Personally, i don't think that it is good idea, because if you ask about college or university than may be i am agree with you, but in school, it is suitable place for bitcoin, because in school life it is not a age of earning, so it is wasting our time, But in one point i am agree with you, and it is that we should do something for publicity of bitcoin.   
If we study the modern economy and the financial market in the world, make sure you will be dealt with questions about bitcoin. That's for sure.
In good institutions must teach it all. The fact is that most people have the correct information about bitcoin cryptocurrency and all of sources in their institution.
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The school curriculum is already crowded and the children of that already do not want to teach. We must choose a category for the age when you can include the study of bitcoin for children. It is not so simple as it seems. It is necessary to study pedagogy.

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December 11, 2016, 10:10:33 PM
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Analyzing the statements of that teacher, it seems evident that his reasonings are based exclusively based on prejudices of the classic economy, without valid arguments of who knows this ecosystem in a minimal way.

So I think trying to convince these foolish people is just a waste of time, despite their university degree.
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Analyzing the statements of that teacher, it seems evident that his reasonings are based exclusively based on prejudices of the classic economy, without valid arguments of who knows this ecosystem in a minimal way.

So I think trying to convince these foolish people is just a waste of time, despite their university degree.
bitcoin birth just a few years ago does not allow the old teachers to talk about the modern technologies at a decent level. Perhaps they still do not understand what is bitcoin.
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I think most institutions would rather not comment on that. One reason is that few people have knowledge about cryptocurrencies, another factor is that this goes against the interests of centralized institutions.
The good news is that nowadays people have access to the internet with ease, so there are no excuses not to learn about it.
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Analyzing the statements of that teacher, it seems evident that his reasonings are based exclusively based on prejudices of the classic economy, without valid arguments of who knows this ecosystem in a minimal way.

So I think trying to convince these foolish people is just a waste of time, despite their university degree.

Ignorant professor, he just shared his opinion about something he doesn`t know nothing about. Professors should have some responsibility, if they don`t know something, they need to learn about it and only then to teach young people and discuss with them about it.



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December 11, 2016, 11:01:35 PM
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Analyzing the statements of that teacher, it seems evident that his reasonings are based exclusively based on prejudices of the classic economy, without valid arguments of who knows this ecosystem in a minimal way.

So I think trying to convince these foolish people is just a waste of time, despite their university degree.

Ignorant professor, he just shared his opinion about something he doesn`t know nothing about. Professors should have some responsibility, if they don`t know something, they need to learn about it and only then to teach young people and discuss with them about it.
I think they are just basing on the book they are not actually know about bitcoin they are just relaying in the book that i think it is from government made. they know bitcoins before as use for illegal activities but they do not really know about bitcoin.. for now they are just learning it and someday someone who are study there if actually knows about bitcoin they can clear their minds what is the true benefits of bitcoin..

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December 12, 2016, 07:07:14 AM
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personnally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.


The teacher in the first place has a positive response into bitcoin and glad to hear that teacher is one new bitcoin enthusiast, but the things which is not good is I think teacher was mis-informed about in bitcoin matter.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !

The teacher in the first place has a positive response into bitcoin and glad to hear that teacher is one new bitcoin enthusiast, but the things which is not good is I think teacher was mis-informed about in bitcoin matter.
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personnally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !

That teacher deserves douch of the year awards.
What a loser. I hope this is going to change soon because as bitcoin gets bigger more and more kids are going to need to be taught about it and blockchian.
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December 12, 2016, 11:37:10 AM
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1. "That is an unregulated currency, therefore that's illegal!"
2. "Imagine a ball thrown in the air, at first it will go high but then eventually it will crash. That's the same logic that bitcoin has."
3. "Use bitcoins? No! That's for crazy people. I'm a normal one so I use Paypal.. But then again you've given me a valid argument so I'm going to use my previous 'Bitcoin is used for drugs' reason for this one."
4. "Bitcoin would fail, okay? No more questions asked, Jimmy! I don't really understand why so I would just keep talking. I don't care if you guys don't understand because I don't so just listen and believe me. M-kay?"

But seriously though, I think the teacher was kind of right with number two. No matter what product, currency or whatever that is, that's doomed to have an end. Maybe other things are meant to crash sooner than most, but everything will crash eventually. Although I also believe that the teacher only did look at the bitcoin chart somewhere and then analyzed it.

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December 12, 2016, 12:29:25 PM
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Just yesterday I was reading on the forum that some business school is created a new subject about bitcoin for their students. Just I forgot in what country that was exactly. I think it's wise to teach new generation of businessmen about bitcoin. Cause of bitcoin may be successful for some of them in future.
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December 12, 2016, 01:56:06 PM
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Well,that's what's the mainstream media and society is about.It will always present the things not in the right order and we experience that every day all around us.That's why we are the people that should represent BTC in a positive light Prêt bancaire.We should be the ones spreading the positives about BTC and only then more people will start actually associating BTC with positives.
Ce serait cool aussi si nous avions un forum dédié en français n'est ce pas.
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December 13, 2016, 01:12:08 AM
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It is clear that the teacher doesn't have a depth understanding of the topic but what really intrigues me is  how can a teacher discuss a one sided topic  . A teacher must discuss it without bias and prejudice . It is most likely that bitcoin will have a bad impression to the students even though they dont know it well

How long ago did you finish school yourself?

Teachers are the most stubborn types that you may ever meet out there. They may start claiming whatever bullshit, and they will never admit being wrong on that even if they themselves eventually understand what drivel they are spouting. They seemingly fail to understand how ridiculous their attempts at saving face look. Just in case, I've met a few such types here, and some of them are obviously still teaching or had been teaching in the past

I agree to much ego i guess.  And since they think that student are far inferior to their knowledge, they can talk any bullshit and pretend that it is the fact which if researched and study brings no relevance to what they are describing.  I wonder when will this teacher just tell their student that they don't know rather than creating fact based in their opinion.
Teachers can get away with it because now what is taught at schools is how to be a good sheep, as soon as you open your mouth and question something teachers will try to shut you up with their authority and if you don't give up you are labeled as a trouble maker.
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December 13, 2016, 07:14:30 AM
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in my situation ive never heard about that bitcoin is scam , when i was first in BTC world ive started at earning satoshis and they were never told me that BTC was scam
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December 13, 2016, 07:18:25 AM
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Do you plan on going into school with her next time and sitting the teacher down for a one on one. Maybe bring this thread with you too andd give the tqeacher some reading material for homework.
Douche teacher.
Still think he should get the douche award of the year.
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December 13, 2016, 07:19:10 AM
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It is clear that the teacher doesn't have a depth understanding of the topic but what really intrigues me is  how can a teacher discuss a one sided topic  . A teacher must discuss it without bias and prejudice . It is most likely that bitcoin will have a bad impression to the students even though they dont know it well

How long ago did you finish school yourself?

Teachers are the most stubborn types that you may ever meet out there. They may start claiming whatever bullshit, and they will never admit being wrong on that even if they themselves eventually understand what drivel they are spouting. They seemingly fail to understand how ridiculous their attempts at saving face look. Just in case, I've met a few such types here, and some of them are obviously still teaching or had been teaching in the past

I agree to much ego i guess.  And since they think that student are far inferior to their knowledge, they can talk any bullshit and pretend that it is the fact which if researched and study brings no relevance to what they are describing.  I wonder when will this teacher just tell their student that they don't know rather than creating fact based in their opinion.
Teachers can get away with it because now what is taught at schools is how to be a good sheep, as soon as you open your mouth and question something teachers will try to shut you up with their authority and if you don't give up you are labeled as a trouble maker.
That really happens on which those teachers will always treat themselves as superiors among others and their opinions are mostly correct and if someone would really want to argue then its better to prepare yourself since you will be doomed for sure. Im not generalizing all teachers but its part of reality on most of them. I dont really agree with those points regarding bitcoin and there all opposite.

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December 13, 2016, 12:38:44 PM
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in my situation ive never heard about that bitcoin is scam , when i was first in BTC world ive started at earning satoshis and they were never told me that BTC was scam
Well, you gotta explore/socialize more. Try introducing bitcoins to your friends and you'll be shocked at their reaction. Almost everyone thinks that their superior amongst other people.

While you're talking about bitcoins, your friends will ask you if it's actually legit and if it's not a scam. Regardless of your answer, your friends would be thinking "Look at this guy. He thinks he's so cool and he's earning money but I'm sure that whatever he's doing it's a scam. It's done online and I'm sure just like all the other things that involve money online, it's also a scam. Haha."

These haters know nothing about bitcoin and probably did very little research just to sound smart when someone brings up the bitcoin topic.

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December 13, 2016, 01:08:18 PM
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in my situation ive never heard about that bitcoin is scam , when i was first in BTC world ive started at earning satoshis and they were never told me that BTC was scam
Well, you gotta explore/socialize more. Try introducing bitcoins to your friends and you'll be shocked at their reaction. Almost everyone thinks that their superior amongst other people.

While you're talking about bitcoins, your friends will ask you if it's actually legit and if it's not a scam. Regardless of your answer, your friends would be thinking "Look at this guy. He thinks he's so cool and he's earning money but I'm sure that whatever he's doing it's a scam. It's done online and I'm sure just like all the other things that involve money online, it's also a scam. Haha."

These haters know nothing about bitcoin and probably did very little research just to sound smart when someone brings up the bitcoin topic.

Yeah incident like that maybe can happen, because so many people not believe. But not everyone (students high school) will give reaction like that. All depends on situation and culture on society every country have different cultures. I am know bitcoin from my friend and i haven't mind set that bitcoin is scam and my friend is lie to me because he give me a proof. So i think proof is very important about this way.

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December 13, 2016, 01:36:51 PM
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It s not very good, bitcoin is actually very good young generation, they still have the potential to bring digital currency to its finest potential, if there is no support from the society then there wont be any revolution, bitcoin is not an illegal currency, some people used it for bad purpose doesnt make it illegal, fiat also being used to buy illegal things, so it is depends on how the user used it, the society just see the outside of bitcoin, they never try to understand the real reason it was created
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That teacher is noob!
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1. That's illegal :
2. It will crash :
3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it :

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail :

1. Government backed and regulated currencies are manipulated even more than bitcoin with unlimited inflation and US government printing dollars without anything backing it other than simple virtual trust on their economic power.

2. Pure manipulation only can't create such constant growth of bitcoin price, the growth we are seeing is just natural which corresponds to increasing demand where as supply is limited.

3. Anyone clear in its head would buy bitcoin and store it for future.

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale will actually get more success and value that it has right now, more community support means stronger bitcoin network.

Look at the currency in India and a Venezuvela, the governement can easily confiscate people's wealth.
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1. That's illegal :
2. It will crash :
3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it :

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail :

1. Government backed and regulated currencies are manipulated even more than bitcoin with unlimited inflation and US government printing dollars without anything backing it other than simple virtual trust on their economic power.

2. Pure manipulation only can't create such constant growth of bitcoin price, the growth we are seeing is just natural which corresponds to increasing demand where as supply is limited.

3. Anyone clear in its head would buy bitcoin and store it for future.

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale will actually get more success and value that it has right now, more community support means stronger bitcoin network.

Look at the currency in India and a Venezuvela, the governement can easily confiscate people's wealth.
And that is when they use their economic tricks to separate you from your wealth, in some parts of the world things are a lot more direct and government officials will steal from you like the thieves they are.
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December 14, 2016, 12:52:58 AM
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1. Bitcoin is not illegal, not being regulated is far from being harmful or illegal. I would stop listening to that teacher here.
2. Don't he know the history? There is many expamples of failed fiats than anything: Argentinian Peso, Zimbabwean Dollar, Sol (Peru), Escudo (Chile) and more currencies are struggling hard.
3. Biased argument, everyone who tried to use it, or bought Bitcoin in the past and hold it - gained.
4. Oh, is he a prophet? He know what will happen! He should be number 1 economic adviser instead of a school teacher.
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But what about going to the school and having a sitdown with the teacher. Maybe all he needs is a good eye opener from someone more experienced in bitcoin like you op.
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December 23, 2016, 09:36:13 PM
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But what about going to the school and having a sitdown with the teacher. Maybe all he needs is a good eye opener from someone more experienced in bitcoin like you op.
If this trend taken up by the teachers themselves, the students will take the doctrine of the bitcoin for granted and schools begin new opportunities for children and their education to the preparation for the future.
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December 23, 2016, 09:53:41 PM
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That's the mistake of the all educational programm today. There is no any standarts and if it's ok that countries are writing their own history as they suppose to be good and right, so every education place same way choosing itself what to tell about bitcoin.
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December 23, 2016, 10:00:51 PM
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But what about going to the school and having a sitdown with the teacher. Maybe all he needs is a good eye opener from someone more experienced in bitcoin like you op.

I don't think it is wise to discuss such thing in school.  That teacher will more likely ignore you because he is in time of his work.  It would be better if you invite him to some bitcoin event and let this teacher learn that what he is thinking about Bitcoin is all nonsense.

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December 23, 2016, 10:15:40 PM
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I, being in high school understand the eternal struggle of know-it-all teachers who are horribly mistaken.

With your third statement however, I understand where your teacher is coming from. On a large scale, it will still be operated solely by supply and demand. One small problem will send the price into a volatile frenzy.

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December 23, 2016, 10:24:08 PM
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personnally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !
Shocking misinformation. The so called teacher should be reported to the relevant authorities and sacked.

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December 23, 2016, 10:26:05 PM
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I do not know, maybe they know about bitcoin, but I feel that they do not want to look for bitcoin.
there may be some of those who seek bitcoin, but most of them do not bother with it. I feel that most of them think that bitcoin is a scam  Sad
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I think that is not fair, the teacher only talk about bitcoin bad side and i bet the teacher never used bitcoin before, bitcoin is not an illegal currency, it is the same currency that we used but it is in digital form, bitcoin will crash if nobody used it anymore and when most of the country banned the coin, but until now bitcoin is doing fine, and anyone with clear head, will try to used bitcoin because its so efficient and will try to invest it because bitcoin is potential to grow in the future


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December 24, 2016, 12:09:55 AM
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personnally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !

Truth is somewhere between. Smiley

1. I agree with gray area. Soon more regulated very likely.

2. Of course bitcoin will crash, but after the crash it will reach new highs. Too much speculators on bitcoin to fail. Smiley

3. I agree with teacher. But, everybody enough crazy will try to speculate with bitcoin and clones or similar altcoins. Smiley

4. Of course bitcoin would fail as currency. But bitcoin will not fail as speculative playing game often considered as Ponzi cyclic game - just like any other speculative instruments. Smiley



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December 24, 2016, 07:04:30 AM
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I think that is not fair, the teacher only talk about bitcoin bad side and i bet the teacher never used bitcoin before, bitcoin is not an illegal currency, it is the same currency that we used but it is in digital form, bitcoin will crash if nobody used it anymore and when most of the country banned the coin, but until now bitcoin is doing fine, and anyone with clear head, will try to used bitcoin because its so efficient and will try to invest it because bitcoin is potential to grow in the future
A very positive thing is that your children himself does not explain and do not waste time in vain, but the school teachers and the curriculum will make it much better than learning bitcoin at home itself.
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December 24, 2016, 07:34:45 AM
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personnally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !

Truth is somewhere between. Smiley

1. I agree with gray area. Soon more regulated very likely.

2. Of course bitcoin will crash, but after the crash it will reach new highs. Too much speculators on bitcoin to fail. Smiley

3. I agree with teacher. But, everybody enough crazy will try to speculate with bitcoin and clones or similar altcoins. Smiley

4. Of course bitcoin would fail as currency. But bitcoin will not fail as speculative playing game often considered as Ponzi cyclic game - just like any other speculative instruments. Smiley


In such cases, the prospects for better and the result will be good, if bitcoin will be taught at least in small quantities in all the evening schools, because there are learning almost accomplished people.
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December 24, 2016, 08:01:43 AM
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I think that is not fair, the teacher only talk about bitcoin bad side and i bet the teacher never used bitcoin before, bitcoin is not an illegal currency, it is the same currency that we used but it is in digital form, bitcoin will crash if nobody used it anymore and when most of the country banned the coin, but until now bitcoin is doing fine, and anyone with clear head, will try to used bitcoin because its so efficient and will try to invest it because bitcoin is potential to grow in the future
A very positive thing is that your children himself does not explain and do not waste time in vain, but the school teachers and the curriculum will make it much better than learning bitcoin at home itself.
When I learned something about cryptocurrency even no one knew and did not mention. It is a modern trend and new technologies. My kids now know more than I do at their age, but that's about bitcoin also know more than their peers, and this is from me and not from the curriculum.
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December 24, 2016, 01:39:26 PM
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If you have to talk about public schools, then in the first place to talk about how to refer to the state itself bitcoin bitcoin else if not the recognition of a currency at all, and in a program of education, no one will learn it.
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December 24, 2016, 01:43:49 PM
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I think that is not fair, the teacher only talk about bitcoin bad side and i bet the teacher never used bitcoin before, bitcoin is not an illegal currency, it is the same currency that we used but it is in digital form, bitcoin will crash if nobody used it anymore and when most of the country banned the coin, but until now bitcoin is doing fine, and anyone with clear head, will try to used bitcoin because its so efficient and will try to invest it because bitcoin is potential to grow in the future

it is only one place and one random thing that was told by one random teacher and if i had to guess i would say he had lost money trading bitcoin and now that teacher is pissed off because of the money that he lost because of FOMO buying and then panic selling.

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I'm no economist but it's sad that it seem that most of his arguments about bitcoin are based on his view that it's only used for shady deals.


1. That's illegal : It's not implicitly illegal and people are using resources to mine it. If he think it's illegal because of the way it's being used then fiat would be illegal to. Heck even sex can be illegal, some people exchange it to get drugs.

2. It will crash : This is a possibility but it's not limited to bitcoin alone. Bitcoins are definitely more useful than tulips.

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : Anyone in his right mind should have bought it when it was low.

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : The great thing about bitcoin is that it can be divided into ever smaller units. Huge leap in it's value would not affect the way it's being used as a currency. If it drops, then people would just hold on to it till it recover. There's no getting rid of it at this point, IMHO.

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December 26, 2016, 08:51:21 PM
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This wasn't very much different from the reaction I got from a journalist and from an economist - both educated abroad and pretty decent at their jobs.

The very first thing that came to their mind was money laundering and the black market. Truly, the media has had their lasting impact.

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December 26, 2016, 09:05:31 PM
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No need to tell them anything, they will figure out quickly. Go look at the altcoin board, there are so many ridiculous ICOs, that are apparently created by the high school students, possibly they are already doing massive altcoin projects to make quick and easy money Grin
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December 26, 2016, 10:48:12 PM
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In high schools they just ignore bitcoin and the opportunity that on it but if you try to introduce bitcoin on your classmates and even on your teacher they will just pretend that they are interested but after a few minutes they will just said anything about discouraging you to use bitcoin because it is online stuff and they said also that there is no assurance for bitcoin to live long so it is better to back off than to stay with it. But from all of their discouraging non sense reasons, I still sticking on bitcoin and hoping for the best to this incoming year.
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December 26, 2016, 10:55:03 PM
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No need to tell them anything, they will figure out quickly. Go look at the altcoin board, there are so many ridiculous ICOs, that are apparently created by the high school students, possibly they are already doing massive altcoin projects to make quick and easy money Grin

Ahhhaha, this is indeed something that may be a boon for them which would have ensured they have a bigger profit than price or those that are stuck in the ICO. Because the Devs will certainly seek profits first before looking for other things, profits in the ICO is already very clear. But do you really know that that makes the altcoin middle school students ..? , if yes then how can they make it? . Whereas if I see any altcoin making it requires extraordinary plans comeback
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December 26, 2016, 11:24:13 PM
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In high schools they just ignore bitcoin and the opportunity that on it but if you try to introduce bitcoin on your classmates and even on your teacher they will just pretend that they are interested but after a few minutes they will just said anything about discouraging you to use bitcoin because it is online stuff and they said also that there is no assurance for bitcoin to live long so it is better to back off than to stay with it. But from all of their discouraging non sense reasons, I still sticking on bitcoin and hoping for the best to this incoming year.
The others honestly are interested but they are just like hear right now but tomorrow their excited was gone about bitcoin.. Because they are still in stage of study and like a child. want to play or they can not live without their father or mother..  but if they are thinking about their future since i told them that you will have a great future about bitcoin if you can hold bitcoin and save what you earn in bitcoin  you can be rich in the future if the price is increase more since the price is obvious that the price will increase more because more adoption were coming and i think we will so more advantages and feature added with bitcoin..

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December 26, 2016, 11:26:27 PM
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No need to tell them anything, they will figure out quickly. Go look at the altcoin board, there are so many ridiculous ICOs, that are apparently created by the high school students, possibly they are already doing massive altcoin projects to make quick and easy money Grin
true bitcoin and cryptocurrency already spread throughout the entire world, even in schools. certainly this deployment could happen by word of mouth or other methods
deployment of bitcoin already occur naturally
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I would really say that in 10 standards there is no training about bitcoins in my country only 30% of people know about bitcoins and are using it,
when I was in class 12 except 2-3 child no one knows about bitcoins so it's not the good thing.
Bitcoin should also promote their company worldwide about awareness and would be really helpful to all people, I don't think so a teacher would also know about bitcoins so how they will teach us.
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I would really say that in 10 standards there is no training about bitcoins in my country only 30% of people know about bitcoins and are using it,
when I was in class 12 except 2-3 child no one knows about bitcoins so it's not the good thing.
Bitcoin should also promote their company worldwide about awareness and would be really helpful to all people, I don't think so a teacher would also know about bitcoins so how they will teach us.
I think that's actually a good thing. Having a few bitcoin users around you is much better than having none at all. At least you know you're not a 1 around all these 0 people (0 and 1 are binary stuff). You guys are actually the key to make an awareness about bitcoins around you. Now that you have 3 other bitcoin users, you can unite and introduce bitcoins to your friends if you want to.

Bitcoin doesn't have a company at all but there are tons of companies that are bitcoin-related. I don't think there's much people that spend their money just to advertise bitcoin itself. They advertise their bitcoin-related company so they get some returns/profits out of all the advertisements.

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January 06, 2017, 10:26:21 PM
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I would really say that in 10 standards there is no training about bitcoins in my country only 30% of people know about bitcoins and are using it,
when I was in class 12 except 2-3 child no one knows about bitcoins so it's not the good thing.
Bitcoin should also promote their company worldwide about awareness and would be really helpful to all people, I don't think so a teacher would also know about bitcoins so how they will teach us.
I think that's actually a good thing. Having a few bitcoin users around you is much better than having none at all. At least you know you're not a 1 around all these 0 people (0 and 1 are binary stuff). You guys are actually the key to make an awareness about bitcoins around you. Now that you have 3 other bitcoin users, you can unite and introduce bitcoins to your friends if you want to.

Bitcoin doesn't have a company at all but there are tons of companies that are bitcoin-related. I don't think there's much people that spend their money just to advertise bitcoin itself. They advertise their bitcoin-related company so they get some returns/profits out of all the advertisements.
Probably about bitcoin need to talk at computer science lessons, at least one, or pay for a while, because bitcoin is part of the digital world
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In my country high school in general is not in school program information or mention of bitcoin. But I would not mind that children studied cryptocurrency to yourself then it does not explain.


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January 07, 2017, 02:03:39 AM
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In my school they don't talk about Bitcoin not because they doesn't like it but because they don't know it yet or some student or teacher knows but they just don't care and they don't know how it works. I know in the future someday Schools will have a subj for Bitcoin , a history for Bitcoin maybe if only if the Bitcoin will go high and stable expected this year.
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In my school they don't talk about Bitcoin not because they doesn't like it but because they don't know it yet or some student or teacher knows but they just don't care and they don't know how it works. I know in the future someday Schools will have a subj for Bitcoin , a history for Bitcoin maybe if only if the Bitcoin will go high and stable expected this year.
In my opinion the curriculum should be more widely to talk about Bitcoin, or even the mere mention of cryptocurrency not remain in the child's memory. Need more extensive study.
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January 07, 2017, 07:16:30 AM
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I would really say that in 10 standards there is no training about bitcoins in my country only 30% of people know about bitcoins and are using it,
when I was in class 12 except 2-3 child no one knows about bitcoins so it's not the good thing.
Bitcoin should also promote their company worldwide about awareness and would be really helpful to all people, I don't think so a teacher would also know about bitcoins so how they will teach us.
In your example, it is generally induced achievement. In my country, even these figures I would not call. People are adults who are aware of the bitcoin is very small, and the children, even in adolescence generally is not probably.
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January 07, 2017, 07:58:34 AM
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In a broken country teachers work with children in all directions, and the preparation includes a mention of bitcoin. Just without the practical complications to consider difficult, so even in Finnish schools bitcoin distribute children to practice. These are good lessons.
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In a broken country teachers work with children in all directions, and the preparation includes a mention of bitcoin. Just without the practical complications to consider difficult, so even in Finnish schools bitcoin distribute children to practice. These are good lessons.
In reality, it would include at least some amount of information for the first bitcoin knowledge in schools for children. But first of all it all depends on the government and on what policy they are in relationship bitcoin.
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Over here, I can say to the best of my knowledge, nothing is being said about bitcoin in high school even in the university, only few people who are into online business can say something satisfactory about bitcoin. The question is who will even teach about bitcoin in our high schools when bitcoin just started getting popular in 2010 and the teachers in our high school have had their education in the 1990s or 1980s in and more importantly the syllabus is their constitution which in this case the issue about bitcoin is definitely missing.
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Over here, I can say to the best of my knowledge, nothing is being said about bitcoin in high school even in the university, only few people who are into online business can say something satisfactory about bitcoin. The question is who will even teach about bitcoin in our high schools when bitcoin just started getting popular in 2010 and the teachers in our high school have had their education in the 1990s or 1980s in and more importantly the syllabus is their constitution which in this case the issue about bitcoin is definitely missing.
I agree one hundred percent with you. Before we talk about how to teach the new generation, it is necessary to prepare teachers who understand what it is. After all, I'm sure that even the teachers of bitcoin heard in schools and in universities, too.
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At the time when I was in school, in the classroom of computer science such thing as bitcoin no one even knew. Although it was long before it arrives. But today, children are taught in high school or even college, without the slightest mention of bitcoin. I think that for the sake of comprehensive development, it is necessary to study the bitcoin too.
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In my school they don't talk about Bitcoin not because they doesn't like it but because they don't know it yet or some student or teacher knows but they just don't care and they don't know how it works. I know in the future someday Schools will have a subj for Bitcoin , a history for Bitcoin maybe if only if the Bitcoin will go high and stable expected this year.
In my opinion the curriculum should be more widely to talk about Bitcoin, or even the mere mention of cryptocurrency not remain in the child's memory. Need more extensive study.
School years children are at such a pace that they are all so difficult to perceive, and if that is at all clever, it can simply be avoided and not to teach. Therefore, to study bitcoin, it is necessary to create a Specialty lessons for individual orientation to study cryptocurrency.
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Over here, I can say to the best of my knowledge, nothing is being said about bitcoin in high school even in the university, only few people who are into online business can say something satisfactory about bitcoin. The question is who will even teach about bitcoin in our high schools when bitcoin just started getting popular in 2010 and the teachers in our high school have had their education in the 1990s or 1980s in and more importantly the syllabus is their constitution which in this case the issue about bitcoin is definitely missing.
Blockchain is an innovation of the modern world, and the old teacher did not even know what it is. Therefore, to study the case we need to have to teach a new generation of teachers. It will take a little time it is not yet. While bitcoin it enough, I think.
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Over here, I can say to the best of my knowledge, nothing is being said about bitcoin in high school even in the university, only few people who are into online business can say something satisfactory about bitcoin. The question is who will even teach about bitcoin in our high schools when bitcoin just started getting popular in 2010 and the teachers in our high school have had their education in the 1990s or 1980s in and more importantly the syllabus is their constitution which in this case the issue about bitcoin is definitely missing.
Blockchain is an innovation of the modern world, and the old teacher did not even know what it is. Therefore, to study the case we need to have to teach a new generation of teachers. It will take a little time it is not yet. While bitcoin it enough, I think.

I don't see the need for it to be taught in high school besides who will entrust a high school student with several thousands of dollars? Are we parents willing??? I guess the answer will be a big "NO" so we should rather be circumspect so that our actions would not make the kids/teens money conscious. I would suggest that we introduce them to it after their first job, be it after high school or whiles in the college.
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Bitcoin is being taught at high schools? That is surprising. However, narrow minded people will always explain bitcoin in the same way the professor did.

Bitcoin is suitable for such people, who can accept dynamic environment and ready to accept new things. Bitcoin is not for all, only few can adopt he technology and not everyone is capable to invest in such a dynamic coin.

   
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Over here, I can say to the best of my knowledge, nothing is being said about bitcoin in high school even in the university, only few people who are into online business can say something satisfactory about bitcoin. The question is who will even teach about bitcoin in our high schools when bitcoin just started getting popular in 2010 and the teachers in our high school have had their education in the 1990s or 1980s in and more importantly the syllabus is their constitution which in this case the issue about bitcoin is definitely missing.
Blockchain is an innovation of the modern world, and the old teacher did not even know what it is. Therefore, to study the case we need to have to teach a new generation of teachers. It will take a little time it is not yet. While bitcoin it enough, I think.

The Bitcoin blockchain technology has been around only for some years (and these are still in single digits), so it wouldn't be very wise overall to teach something which hasn't yet fully established itself. I refer to high (and below) schools, obviously. In this sense, schools are conservative, and it is actually a good feature or quality since they should give basic but solid knowledge before anything else...

Bitcoin certainly doesn't belong to this category of things



I'd rather say it should be studied at universities as part of economic or computer sciences classes

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January 21, 2017, 01:22:35 PM
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Over here, I can say to the best of my knowledge, nothing is being said about bitcoin in high school even in the university, only few people who are into online business can say something satisfactory about bitcoin. The question is who will even teach about bitcoin in our high schools when bitcoin just started getting popular in 2010 and the teachers in our high school have had their education in the 1990s or 1980s in and more importantly the syllabus is their constitution which in this case the issue about bitcoin is definitely missing.
Blockchain is an innovation of the modern world, and the old teacher did not even know what it is. Therefore, to study the case we need to have to teach a new generation of teachers. It will take a little time it is not yet. While bitcoin it enough, I think.
If the syllabus of the schools of any country are up to date and they accept the involvement of new technology and bitcoin technology then they will add the lesson of bitcoin in their books and even the older teachers will also learn about bitcoin and will teach to their students.
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My suspicions are that people don't bring bitcoin up very much. I imagine it would only come up in a very specific class like economics and business, who in their right minds would randomly bring it up to random uninterested teenagers?
It's been a while since I was in high school...
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My suspicions are that people don't bring bitcoin up very much. I imagine it would only come up in a very specific class like economics and business, who in their right minds would randomly bring it up to random uninterested teenagers?
It's been a while since I was in high school...
The school is just a few to mention cryptocurrency and in particular about bitcoin, and will need more practical training, but it is a very expensive piece of equipment and need a good funding for schools.
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My suspicions are that people don't bring bitcoin up very much. I imagine it would only come up in a very specific class like economics and business, who in their right minds would randomly bring it up to random uninterested teenagers?
It's been a while since I was in high school...
The school is just a few to mention cryptocurrency and in particular about bitcoin, and will need more practical training, but it is a very expensive piece of equipment and need a good funding for schools.
Do you really think it would be that much important that schools and colleges must teach about bitcoin ecosystem. I guess if it is true, then government policies will not allow that (only national fiats will be supported by any government and their text books).

Yes, people need to know about bitcoin on their own interest. In this digital world, it is highly possible to hear and know about bitcoins in few clicks.
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My suspicions are that people don't bring bitcoin up very much. I imagine it would only come up in a very specific class like economics and business, who in their right minds would randomly bring it up to random uninterested teenagers?
It's been a while since I was in high school...
The school is just a few to mention cryptocurrency and in particular about bitcoin, and will need more practical training, but it is a very expensive piece of equipment and need a good funding for schools.
Do you really think it would be that much important that schools and colleges must teach about bitcoin ecosystem. I guess if it is true, then government policies will not allow that (only national fiats will be supported by any government and their text books).

Yes, people need to know about bitcoin on their own interest. In this digital world, it is highly possible to hear and know about bitcoins in few clicks.
Educate children in school is not just. Even if today suggest such a possibility, apart from the special school program and need more staff, who will be able and will be able to teach the students in the school.


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February 04, 2017, 09:22:27 PM
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let just dont mess with the education highschool are having right now because these bitcoin things(internet of things) must be taught or be a self taught to people who are curious about it . Bitcoin is complicated but highschool kids doesnt need this at their age/time they must learn how to survive this world or much better to teach them how to save money so that it would not be a problem in their future.

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Teachers will be teachers - acting like they know everything and they think they know about something they never used or experienced. They think that if they are teaching students a subject they know everything. I can see that the teacher does not have a clue about Bitcoin.

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February 04, 2017, 09:52:48 PM
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Teachers will be teachers - acting like they know everything and they think they know about something they never used or experienced. They think that if they are teaching students a subject they know everything. I can see that the teacher does not have a clue about Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is a very narrow focus and to know about it enough information or you need to learn or practice in this area. A modern schools do not have teachers who have at least one experienced with bitcoin.
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February 04, 2017, 09:56:23 PM
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Teachers will be teachers - acting like they know everything and they think they know about something they never used or experienced. They think that if they are teaching students a subject they know everything. I can see that the teacher does not have a clue about Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is a very narrow focus and to know about it enough information or you need to learn or practice in this area. A modern schools do not have teachers who have at least one experienced with bitcoin.
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February 04, 2017, 10:09:33 PM
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My children is not possible to be interested in bitcoin. Based on the fact that the teaching in schools today, the study is not an easy task. Therefore, for the children it will be very difficult.
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February 04, 2017, 10:32:29 PM
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Teachers will be teachers - acting like they know everything and they think they know about something they never used or experienced. They think that if they are teaching students a subject they know everything. I can see that the teacher does not have a clue about Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is a very narrow focus and to know about it enough information or you need to learn or practice in this area. A modern schools do not have teachers who have at least one experienced with bitcoin.
The question of schooling according to bitcoin is very relevant, but we must note that those teachers are supposed to be taught in school, and their teachers need to teach more. This case is very long perspective.
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February 05, 2017, 02:42:02 AM
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There is not much of a point in debating with someone that does not even have their fact straight, the teacher is just parroting whatever he heard on TV instead of researching the facts himself, if he did then he will go and buy bitcoin immediately.
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February 05, 2017, 02:47:54 AM
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There is not much of a point in debating with someone that does not even have their fact straight, the teacher is just parroting whatever he heard on TV instead of researching the facts himself, if he did then he will go and buy bitcoin immediately.
The narrative got invented from main media, get used to that. What bitcoin country lacks the most is leaving the echo chamber, reaching people outside over there.
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His teacher is one of the people I call as the "Non-Believer". People usually like that at first when you tell them about bitcoin. They usually tell negative things because they haven't experience how great it is! But I'm pretty asure that his teacher will conduct another research aout bitcoin and I will not be surprise that He will use it also Smiley
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February 05, 2017, 11:38:03 AM
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Bitcoin is being taught at high schools? That is surprising. However, narrow minded people will always explain bitcoin in the same way the professor did.

Bitcoin is suitable for such people, who can accept dynamic environment and ready to accept new things. Bitcoin is not for all, only few can adopt he technology and not everyone is capable to invest in such a dynamic coin.
First of all bitcoin is not taught in high schools in my country because t is not much established in my country but as my country is neutral to bitcoin and is not against bitcoin so I believe that in the coming future it will added as a chapter in mathematics or computer subjects to teach about it to the students and will help them to adopt it and use it for themselves.
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February 05, 2017, 11:44:30 AM
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I think that was just an opinion of concrete professor in that school or I don't know. I think in the case of bitcoin, especially when we are talking about education of somebody, it is kind of not fare to take just one negative position. All that that we heard about bitcoin here is just lie and not correct at all. Bitcoin have many sides to talk about and to teach kids about.
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bitcoin is currently developing a vast sector. it seems there is no specific way to tell bitcoin among schools. bitcoin growing and expanding rapidly on the internet. anyone who accesses the internet will recognize bitcoin quickly.
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bitcoin is currently developing a vast sector. it seems there is no specific way to tell bitcoin among schools. bitcoin growing and expanding rapidly on the internet. anyone who accesses the internet will recognize bitcoin quickly.

On my imagination there allready is no way to get arround getting that recognition, each and every techchannel touted the toppic one or more time. And there is politics, the complaints against Silk Road from officials (in a strange timing right before SR got busted ?)
So there comes another attac angle. Getting kids into technology and politics Cheesy ooh I know that sounds nasty. The bonmot "on a long enough timescale we are all deads" (Homer Simpson) tells about the inescapeability. Face live, tech, politics and bitcoin comes as a bundle.
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in my country, Bitcoin is not known
Bitcoin is a strange definition, if I ask what Bitcoin is, they will only respond, "I do not know"
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bitcoin is currently developing a vast sector. it seems there is no specific way to tell bitcoin among schools. bitcoin growing and expanding rapidly on the internet. anyone who accesses the internet will recognize bitcoin quickly.

There are no curriculum yet about bitcoins and cryptocurrencies as well as digital currencies. That is the reason why there are no formal studies and teaching about online currencies to students on High School and if there are it was just not a formal teaching but an opinion of the teacher. The teacher could make any opinion about bitcoins and its sad to say that if the teacher is negative towards bitcoin then the students who are the future users of bitcoin may be affected so as not use bitcoin due to the teachings of their teacher.
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in my country, Bitcoin is not known
Bitcoin is a strange definition, if I ask what Bitcoin is, they will only respond, "I do not know"
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Even in other countries, if you ask some random stranger they would probably respond the same way. Keep in mind that not everyone's tech savvy. Maybe everyone has laptop and a high-end smartphone but that doesn't make them interested in every single technology or innovation out there. Even if they were, there's to much innovation out there to be busy of and bitcoin is just one of them.

But I don't think people would just say some plain I-dont-know because it's pretty obvious and self explanatory that bitcoin is about money and technology because of the words "bit" and "coin".

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February 05, 2017, 02:56:59 PM
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Sadly, in my country nobody gets taught about Bitcoin. Even if they are taught that it is illegal and such things, people curious about it would go online and look it up to see if it is true or not. But nobody here even heard abiut Bitcoin, so it is not really popular in my country ..
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February 05, 2017, 02:58:21 PM
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bitcoin is currently developing a vast sector. it seems there is no specific way to tell bitcoin among schools. bitcoin growing and expanding rapidly on the internet. anyone who accesses the internet will recognize bitcoin quickly.

There are no curriculum yet about bitcoins and cryptocurrencies as well as digital currencies. That is the reason why there are no formal studies and teaching about online currencies to students on High School and if there are it was just not a formal teaching but an opinion of the teacher. The teacher could make any opinion about bitcoins and its sad to say that if the teacher is negative towards bitcoin then the students who are the future users of bitcoin may be affected so as not use bitcoin due to the teachings of their teacher.
being teacher i can conformed that still in my college or at school level we have no such curriculum to teach to the student about bitcoin. i think it can only be possible when bitcoin will become a legal currency and when it will become more common to be use in local shops, then i think the governments can fee the need to teach to the students about bitcoin and may be they include bitcoin in curriculum also. .

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in my country, Bitcoin is not known
Bitcoin is a strange definition, if I ask what Bitcoin is, they will only respond, "I do not know"
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in my country, only few people that know bitcoin and bitcoin is not teach on everywhere because there is no institution that teaching people about bitcoin and we should learn bitcoin by ourself. every people that i've meet and they know bitcoin, they tells that they know bitcoin by searching on internet and read many news about bitcoin.

and because of this, in high schools, the student is not learn anything about bitcoin but i hope in future, they will studied and learning about bitcoin because it is related with technology in future.



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February 05, 2017, 03:32:16 PM
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bitcoin is currently developing a vast sector. it seems there is no specific way to tell bitcoin among schools. bitcoin growing and expanding rapidly on the internet. anyone who accesses the internet will recognize bitcoin quickly.

That's true,I don't think there's a particular way of telling them about it because there are so many ways that's advertising Bitcoin by the day through all the various kinds of media so it's very obvious they are going to get yo hear about Bitcoin the same way we are.
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February 05, 2017, 03:34:34 PM
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i didn't learn much at school worth remembering. none of my teachers gave a shit. i wouldn't have expected any of them to have a clue about something like bitcoin. i don't recall any mention of any economic theory. they didn't even teach us any grammar.

bitcoin is best discovered by yourself and for yourself.
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February 05, 2017, 04:48:21 PM
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i didn't learn much at school worth remembering. none of my teachers gave a shit. i wouldn't have expected any of them to have a clue about something like bitcoin. i don't recall any mention of any economic theory. they didn't even teach us any grammar.

bitcoin is best discovered by yourself and for yourself.
I agree with you for that , school must teach high school students to be prepared outside of the school educate them to be a good person even if someone is always ahead of you. They must teach students about economics or basic business skills so that they have choices rather than having to work for others instead of themself.

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February 05, 2017, 06:18:33 PM
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The knowledge of bitcoins among the high school professors is not much I assume because they have been teaching about the traditional form of transactions throughout their career.To them
Bitcoin is an illegal form of currency and purchasing them Is a big risk.
They think that it is a form of gamble and it may be used to support the trade of drugs and other forms of substance abuse.
They think that it is risky....Infact anyone who uses bitcoin or hears about it for the 1st time think it to be risky.This might be due to the fact that the creator of bitcoins is some unknown\aynonamous person so they think it to be risky.
But this topic ie.bitcoins is not usually discussed in the classes if you go and ask the teachers personally the may tell you about it.Some might even know about it and might be hearing this term for the 1st time.
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February 05, 2017, 06:28:25 PM
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The knowledge of bitcoins among the high school professors is not much I assume because they have been teaching about the traditional form of transactions throughout their career.

let's not forget the 'contribution' of the two most famous professors associated with bitcoin. there's the professor who predicted $10 btc by 2014 or something and then there's jorge stolfi, a professor who literally devotes every minute of every day trolling bitcoin around every outlet around the globe.

that ain't much of a track record for the educated.
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February 05, 2017, 06:30:02 PM
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I don't know about other countries but I know that in my country children in high schools don't receive any kind of information about bitcoins. It's still some kind of tabu in education. And the knowledge of the professors is probably very poor so what to excpect. The only source of information is internet.

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February 12, 2017, 06:31:48 AM
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I don't know about other countries but I know that in my country children in high schools don't receive any kind of information about bitcoins. It's still some kind of tabu in education. And the knowledge of the professors is probably very poor so what to excpect. The only source of information is internet.
The fact that more needs to be a public education program which should include mention of bitcoin. But the knowledge of the professors exactly very scarce in cryptocurrency.
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February 12, 2017, 07:48:38 AM
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !
The teacher really don't know what bitcoin is, he gives his opinion about the bitcoin. He's busy to teach his student so mind his own business. Don't discourage the bitcoiners, this is the one reason why we earned money.













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February 12, 2017, 08:10:20 AM
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All the knowledge of the student can only get on the Internet inadvertently bumping or on the advice of a knowledgeable user already. Otherwise, the love or the learning process does not even start.
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February 12, 2017, 09:02:12 AM
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

This is debatable. There is a lot good use for bitcoin not just drugs. You can buy a lot of good stuff as well.

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2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

I don't think bitcoin has crashed before. Correct me if I wrong here. There is a series of bull run in recent years but I never heard of it crashing in the market.

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3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

Again, there are any things we can buy outside of drugs. Yes there is paypal, but we are given another option here which is bitcoin

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4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personnally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.
Your teacher did not know about what bitcoin is. Sorry to tell. Yes it is still a small market but have potential to go big.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !
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February 12, 2017, 09:13:05 AM
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

How dare the teacher is to stste bitcoin as illegal. even government also havent mentioned it as illegal but the only said the bitcoin is neither legal nor illegal. it doesnt have any lawa and rules.and those eho use it for ciminial activities and illegal activities why take their example. we donate with bitcoin buy things with bitcoin with but why dont the teacher sabout these positive points. RIP those teachers.
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February 12, 2017, 09:14:15 AM
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

How dare the teacher is to stste bitcoin as illegal. even government also havent mentioned it as illegal but the only said the bitcoin is neither legal nor illegal. it doesnt have any lawa and rules.and those eho use it for ciminial activities and illegal activities why take their example. we donate with bitcoin buy things with bitcoin with but why dont the teacher sabout these positive points. RIP those teachers.
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February 12, 2017, 10:06:03 AM
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The knowledge of bitcoins among the high school professors is not much I assume because they have been teaching about the traditional form of transactions throughout their career.

let's not forget the 'contribution' of the two most famous professors associated with bitcoin. there's the professor who predicted $10 btc by 2014 or something and then there's jorge stolfi, a professor who literally devotes every minute of every day trolling bitcoin around every outlet around the globe.

that ain't much of a track record for the educated.
Since no one says that there are people who understand much in cryptocurrency and all other high-tech. Just for every school in the world of these people do not have to teach young people.

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February 12, 2017, 10:21:06 AM
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It is not a wise decision to teach them in high school about bitcoin because they don't understand the technology first of all. Even though we explain to them very clearly about bitcoin, still it is very hard for them to understand about block chain and how it works, it really confuses a lot.


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February 12, 2017, 10:27:43 AM
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This is exactly the same is the case when a person does not understand what it says. I'm sure he had no practice in this area.

Yes exactly, maybe he doesn't know anything about bitcoin, he never know that this business is existing that's why he concluded all that he said, its illegal and everything. Sometimes, its better to be honest to tell not if you don't know something than to say something bad with a thing that you really dont know.
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February 12, 2017, 10:30:09 AM
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It is not a wise decision to teach them in high school about bitcoin because they don't understand the technology first of all. Even though we explain to them very clearly about bitcoin, still it is very hard for them to understand about block chain and how it works, it really confuses a lot.
If you think that understanding blockchain and anything else regarding crypto world is too hard for high schoolers, then there's something wrong with you. Those students just need to know the basics, and blockchain is part of it. There's no need for teaching those students too far until crypto world's depth. So, they will not be getting confused because of it.
Though I consider bitcoin is pretty important for students who want take or to learn about Technologies and Information categories furthermore, for additional knowledge of course.

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This is exactly the same is the case when a person does not understand what it says. I'm sure he had no practice in this area.

Yes exactly, maybe he doesn't know anything about bitcoin, he never know that this business is existing that's why he concluded all that he said, its illegal and everything. Sometimes, its better to be honest to tell not if you don't know something than to say something bad with a thing that you really dont know.
Telling things to someone without even knowing the important things would really not be ideal at all because you are saying false informations to someone regarding about bitcoin. If student will find out about the goodness of bitcoin he will surely use it.

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The teacher definitely has a very little understanding about bitcoin, at least he know what bitcoin is. His opinion proves that he's only hear a little about bitcoin and jump to conclusion based on what he heard without more research. He's an economic teacher so he should study more about things like this.

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February 13, 2017, 01:54:48 PM
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personnally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !
Well I don't personally think that any schools talk about bitcoin or no.
But as you have told they do , let's go with the flow.
So now , when it comes to illegal , there is not reason for it to be illegal. It's 100% safe and more over the site is secured.
It is an official crypto currency and firms accept bitcoin.

Now the next point. It can not crash now after reaching so high.
If it would have had to crash it would have already in 2009.
But till now it's working perfectly fine and will work in the future.

Coming to the third point. Anyone with clear mind will obviously choose bitcoin.
It is the number one crypto currency and will always be.
And when the world is becoming digital crypto currencies have a better chance to prosper.

Bitcoin at a bigger scale will fail. Like really! I would like to ask now is bitcoin at a small scale?
Large large firms have started accepting bitcoin. It is growing day by day. Many people Trust bitcoin.
There is no chance for it to fail.

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February 13, 2017, 02:38:34 PM
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The teacher definitely has a very little understanding about bitcoin, at least he know what bitcoin is. His opinion proves that he's only hear a little about bitcoin and jump to conclusion based on what he heard without more research. He's an economic teacher so he should study more about things like this.

It is not really required to learn some basics about bitcoin because it does not need to be teach in every school but if a teacher would want to teach it to his pupils then I think he must study more about bitcoin that means he needs to undergo in a self teaching about it read more facts about bitcoin, and to know the history of it, if you certainly want to teach it in a much higher level you need to really gain knowledge about it especially when you he/she is a teacher!
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February 13, 2017, 02:50:00 PM
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The teacher definitely has a very little understanding about bitcoin, at least he know what bitcoin is. His opinion proves that he's only hear a little about bitcoin and jump to conclusion based on what he heard without more research. He's an economic teacher so he should study more about things like this.

It is not really required to learn some basics about bitcoin because it does not need to be teach in every school but if a teacher would want to teach it to his pupils then I think he must study more about bitcoin that means he needs to undergo in a self teaching about it read more facts about bitcoin, and to know the history of it, if you certainly want to teach it in a much higher level you need to really gain knowledge about it especially when you he/she is a teacher!
Whatever the teacher was said it is their opinion and understanding regarding bitcoin, let us just respect and maybe he just said that because he doesn't want his student to involve in bitcoin, maybe he knew that a lot of users of bitcoin uses it in gambling and that he is not updated with bitcoin news and what in his mind is that bitcoin is just an illegal thing.

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February 13, 2017, 02:56:54 PM
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The teacher definitely has a very little understanding about bitcoin, at least he know what bitcoin is. His opinion proves that he's only hear a little about bitcoin and jump to conclusion based on what he heard without more research. He's an economic teacher so he should study more about things like this.

It is not really required to learn some basics about bitcoin because it does not need to be teach in every school but if a teacher would want to teach it to his pupils then I think he must study more about bitcoin that means he needs to undergo in a self teaching about it read more facts about bitcoin, and to know the history of it, if you certainly want to teach it in a much higher level you need to really gain knowledge about it especially when you he/she is a teacher!
Whatever the teacher was said it is their opinion and understanding regarding bitcoin, let us just respect and maybe he just said that because he doesn't want his student to involve in bitcoin, maybe he knew that a lot of users of bitcoin uses it in gambling and that he is not updated with bitcoin news and what in his mind is that bitcoin is just an illegal thing.

Well maybe you are right! maybe some teacher would really want for their student to stay away from bitcoin regarding the illegal gambling or even the legal once from his/her student, but bitcoin has a dual face even if their would be a bad things about it there is definitely a good side, but as you have said maybe as a teacher he/she is only protecting their student because they are simply not ready about the knowledge in knowing it!
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February 13, 2017, 03:45:57 PM
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personnally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !

Yes your teacher is right. Using bitcoins in some countries are illegal. But many countries havent regulated bitcoins. Possibilities are there that bitcoins price can drop or crash easily within a day. If any  government bans the usage of bitcoins its price will crash or drop or if any
hacking or illegal things happen then also bicoin's price can drop. But bitcoin has got so many advantages that make people use bitcoin .The main thing is transactions made through bitcoins are anonymous. Thats the main reason why people prefer bitcoins even if they know all these drawbacks about bitcoin.
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February 18, 2017, 04:11:10 AM
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The teacher definitely has a very little understanding about bitcoin, at least he know what bitcoin is. His opinion proves that he's only hear a little about bitcoin and jump to conclusion based on what he heard without more research. He's an economic teacher so he should study more about things like this.

It is not really required to learn some basics about bitcoin because it does not need to be teach in every school but if a teacher would want to teach it to his pupils then I think he must study more about bitcoin that means he needs to undergo in a self teaching about it read more facts about bitcoin, and to know the history of it, if you certainly want to teach it in a much higher level you need to really gain knowledge about it especially when you he/she is a teacher!
Whatever the teacher was said it is their opinion and understanding regarding bitcoin, let us just respect and maybe he just said that because he doesn't want his student to involve in bitcoin, maybe he knew that a lot of users of bitcoin uses it in gambling and that he is not updated with bitcoin news and what in his mind is that bitcoin is just an illegal thing.

Well maybe you are right! maybe some teacher would really want for their student to stay away from bitcoin regarding the illegal gambling or even the legal once from his/her student, but bitcoin has a dual face even if their would be a bad things about it there is definitely a good side, but as you have said maybe as a teacher he/she is only protecting their student because they are simply not ready about the knowledge in knowing it!

Useless if teachers don't understand bitcoin, they just read from a newspaper or news on a small overview about bitcoin. Teacher tasks only wants to give the best to students. They don't want to give too much risk, because bitcoin really can't be controlled if it is comfortable playing in it (involves a lot of money), it's dangerous for students.

But if teacher is bitcoin active users, they should first discuss with the school committee, worthy or not to be taught, because if it isn't approved, it would only be futile.
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February 19, 2017, 07:54:56 PM
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The teacher definitely has a very little understanding about bitcoin, at least he know what bitcoin is. His opinion proves that he's only hear a little about bitcoin and jump to conclusion based on what he heard without more research. He's an economic teacher so he should study more about things like this.

It is not really required to learn some basics about bitcoin because it does not need to be teach in every school but if a teacher would want to teach it to his pupils then I think he must study more about bitcoin that means he needs to undergo in a self teaching about it read more facts about bitcoin, and to know the history of it, if you certainly want to teach it in a much higher level you need to really gain knowledge about it especially when you he/she is a teacher!
Whatever the teacher was said it is their opinion and understanding regarding bitcoin, let us just respect and maybe he just said that because he doesn't want his student to involve in bitcoin, maybe he knew that a lot of users of bitcoin uses it in gambling and that he is not updated with bitcoin news and what in his mind is that bitcoin is just an illegal thing.

Well maybe you are right! maybe some teacher would really want for their student to stay away from bitcoin regarding the illegal gambling or even the legal once from his/her student, but bitcoin has a dual face even if their would be a bad things about it there is definitely a good side, but as you have said maybe as a teacher he/she is only protecting their student because they are simply not ready about the knowledge in knowing it!

Useless if teachers don't understand bitcoin, they just read from a newspaper or news on a small overview about bitcoin. Teacher tasks only wants to give the best to students. They don't want to give too much risk, because bitcoin really can't be controlled if it is comfortable playing in it (involves a lot of money), it's dangerous for students.

But if teacher is bitcoin active users, they should first discuss with the school committee, worthy or not to be taught, because if it isn't approved, it would only be futile.
If the state will mean to teach schoolchildren about bitcoin technology, it will also train teachers first.
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February 19, 2017, 09:25:13 PM
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personnally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !

Yes your teacher is right. Using bitcoins in some countries are illegal. But many countries havent regulated bitcoins. Possibilities are there that bitcoins price can drop or crash easily within a day. If any  government bans the usage of bitcoins its price will crash or drop or if any
hacking or illegal things happen then also bicoin's price can drop. But bitcoin has got so many advantages that make people use bitcoin .The main thing is transactions made through bitcoins are anonymous. Thats the main reason why people prefer bitcoins even if they know all these drawbacks about bitcoin.

Why, then, all governments not to do the same or to negotiate. Why one can easily recognize bitcoin as a currency, while others deny it and may even prescribe penalties for transactions with bitcoin.
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February 20, 2017, 06:29:16 AM
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The teacher definitely has a very little understanding about bitcoin, at least he know what bitcoin is. His opinion proves that he's only hear a little about bitcoin and jump to conclusion based on what he heard without more research. He's an economic teacher so he should study more about things like this.

It is not really required to learn some basics about bitcoin because it does not need to be teach in every school but if a teacher would want to teach it to his pupils then I think he must study more about bitcoin that means he needs to undergo in a self teaching about it read more facts about bitcoin, and to know the history of it, if you certainly want to teach it in a much higher level you need to really gain knowledge about it especially when you he/she is a teacher!
Whatever the teacher was said it is their opinion and understanding regarding bitcoin, let us just respect and maybe he just said that because he doesn't want his student to involve in bitcoin, maybe he knew that a lot of users of bitcoin uses it in gambling and that he is not updated with bitcoin news and what in his mind is that bitcoin is just an illegal thing.

Well maybe you are right! maybe some teacher would really want for their student to stay away from bitcoin regarding the illegal gambling or even the legal once from his/her student, but bitcoin has a dual face even if their would be a bad things about it there is definitely a good side, but as you have said maybe as a teacher he/she is only protecting their student because they are simply not ready about the knowledge in knowing it!
If Bitcoin can result in serious consequences to its use, the children will be contrary to implant in childhood and adolescence by cryptocurrency. And gambling is one of these factors.
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February 20, 2017, 06:35:01 AM
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The teacher definitely has a very little understanding about bitcoin, at least he know what bitcoin is. His opinion proves that he's only hear a little about bitcoin and jump to conclusion based on what he heard without more research. He's an economic teacher so he should study more about things like this.

It is not really required to learn some basics about bitcoin because it does not need to be teach in every school but if a teacher would want to teach it to his pupils then I think he must study more about bitcoin that means he needs to undergo in a self teaching about it read more facts about bitcoin, and to know the history of it, if you certainly want to teach it in a much higher level you need to really gain knowledge about it especially when you he/she is a teacher!
in fact we currently do not need for any training for our kids in school about bitcoin because bitcoin is still use as investment and not currency i think when governments will accept bitcoin as legal currency and when bitcoin will be accepted as currency in local shops then we should teach about bitcoin in our local schools. but still we do not need for such kind of action.
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February 20, 2017, 06:40:23 AM
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This was also the things that my college professor have told me. When i try to explain to him that bitcoin is an opportunity for good. Sad to say but this is really how they think especially if they only know the theories with regards to this and have not experienced it personally.

Lately there was a huge scandal in the philippines. A video of a girl torturing babies on the internet the source was actually from the dark web.
For every livestream the girl was been paid for 10 BTC on that certain point some bitcoin enthusiast and haters stated a debate.
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This was also the things that my college professor have told me. When i try to explain to him that bitcoin is an opportunity for good. Sad to say but this is really how they think especially if they only know the theories with regards to this and have not experienced it personally.

Lately there was a huge scandal in the philippines. A video of a girl torturing babies on the internet the source was actually from the dark web.
For every livestream the girl was been paid for 10 BTC on that certain point some bitcoin enthusiast and haters stated a debate.
If we talk about professors in higher education institutions, their disciples have, in practice, no longer know what they are, and teachers. The professor did not face ever with nothing other than the theory.
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February 20, 2017, 07:35:30 AM
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1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.
he was wrong, Bitcoin is not illegal, it just has not been recognized governments. Currently, many countries have accepted this as showing us its legality. As a teacher, but he does not understand what he said. That is not good

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !
it did not fall, it is extremely strong development and great achievements. As we see, it is occupying a very important position, the price is extremely large, yet not a match for money. His thoughts it is a mistake
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February 20, 2017, 07:42:46 AM
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My brother is now a high school student. and he is told about bitcoin, but not all of his friends to know and understand about bitcoin. although only few people who already know about it, but their response was very positive about this currency. for those bitcoin is the advancement of technology and can make them get an extra pocket money.


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It is not a wise decision to teach them in high school about bitcoin because they don't understand the technology first of all. Even though we explain to them very clearly about bitcoin, still it is very hard for them to understand about block chain and how it works, it really confuses a lot.
If you think that understanding blockchain and anything else regarding crypto world is too hard for high schoolers, then there's something wrong with you. Those students just need to know the basics, and blockchain is part of it. There's no need for teaching those students too far until crypto world's depth. So, they will not be getting confused because of it.
Though I consider bitcoin is pretty important for students who want take or to learn about Technologies and Information categories furthermore, for additional knowledge of course.
I am not really worried about the kids, but more on the educators / teachers who will have to get the message across. today’s youth are more digitally-inclined compared to those who are say in their 40’s. Based on personal experience, my teachers didn’t do a pretty good job in making me understand about the real world economics back in my high school days. So I guess if bitcoin is to be introduced in schools, teachers should first undergo a more thorough and careful understanding of the subject matter in order for them to teach it properly.
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February 20, 2017, 07:49:56 AM
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My brother is now a high school student. and he is told about bitcoin, but not all of his friends to know and understand about bitcoin. although only few people who already know about it, but their response was very positive about this currency. for those bitcoin is the advancement of technology and can make them get an extra pocket money.

For students who understand about bitcoin, it is very simple for them how to use bitcoin wisely. But for the people who don't understand will confuse more about it because bitcoin is completely different terminology when compared to other currency. Even now it is not the right time to explain about bitcoin to student who are pursing high school.
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February 20, 2017, 07:58:55 AM
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As young people today communicate with computers and other high-tech, many have already managed to get acquainted with cryptocurrency and anyone interested, he was already working with bitcoin as its knowledge.
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It is not a wise decision to teach them in high school about bitcoin because they don't understand the technology first of all. Even though we explain to them very clearly about bitcoin, still it is very hard for them to understand about block chain and how it works, it really confuses a lot.
If you think that understanding blockchain and anything else regarding crypto world is too hard for high schoolers, then there's something wrong with you. Those students just need to know the basics, and blockchain is part of it. There's no need for teaching those students too far until crypto world's depth. So, they will not be getting confused because of it.
Though I consider bitcoin is pretty important for students who want take or to learn about Technologies and Information categories furthermore, for additional knowledge of course.
I am not really worried about the kids, but more on the educators / teachers who will have to get the message across. today’s youth are more digitally-inclined compared to those who are say in their 40’s. Based on personal experience, my teachers didn’t do a pretty good job in making me understand about the real world economics back in my high school days[1]. So I guess if bitcoin is to be introduced in schools, teachers should first undergo a more thorough and careful understanding of the subject matter in order for them to teach it properly.


[1] My teachers also weren't able to make me understand Math in my high school days, but it was not their fault. As a teenager, we tend to be lazy because of puberty stuffs and all the distractions that surrounds us. If other students were able to understand what real world economics, then you might be the problem and not the teacher. Seriously we can't blame our teacher. We can't say they are "not entertaining enough", "too boring", "not funny", etc. and so we don't want to learn from them. In addition to this, the education back then is different with the education today.

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February 27, 2017, 05:16:26 AM
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It is not a wise decision to teach them in high school about bitcoin because they don't understand the technology first of all. Even though we explain to them very clearly about bitcoin, still it is very hard for them to understand about block chain and how it works, it really confuses a lot.
If you think that understanding blockchain and anything else regarding crypto world is too hard for high schoolers, then there's something wrong with you. Those students just need to know the basics, and blockchain is part of it. There's no need for teaching those students too far until crypto world's depth. So, they will not be getting confused because of it.
Though I consider bitcoin is pretty important for students who want take or to learn about Technologies and Information categories furthermore, for additional knowledge of course.
I am not really worried about the kids, but more on the educators / teachers who will have to get the message across. today’s youth are more digitally-inclined compared to those who are say in their 40’s. Based on personal experience, my teachers didn’t do a pretty good job in making me understand about the real world economics back in my high school days. So I guess if bitcoin is to be introduced in schools, teachers should first undergo a more thorough and careful understanding of the subject matter in order for them to teach it properly.

The fact that teachers need to teach, this is understandable. But this requires a comprehensive approach, because there are no opportunities to even the teachers teach. There is a question of where and how. Who will teach the teachers. It is necessary to develop a new system of education.
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February 27, 2017, 05:25:14 AM
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It is not a wise decision to teach them in high school about bitcoin because they don't understand the technology first of all. Even though we explain to them very clearly about bitcoin, still it is very hard for them to understand about block chain and how it works, it really confuses a lot.
If you think that understanding blockchain and anything else regarding crypto world is too hard for high schoolers, then there's something wrong with you. Those students just need to know the basics, and blockchain is part of it. There's no need for teaching those students too far until crypto world's depth. So, they will not be getting confused because of it.
Though I consider bitcoin is pretty important for students who want take or to learn about Technologies and Information categories furthermore, for additional knowledge of course.
I am not really worried about the kids, but more on the educators / teachers who will have to get the message across. today’s youth are more digitally-inclined compared to those who are say in their 40’s. Based on personal experience, my teachers didn’t do a pretty good job in making me understand about the real world economics back in my high school days[1]. So I guess if bitcoin is to be introduced in schools, teachers should first undergo a more thorough and careful understanding of the subject matter in order for them to teach it properly.


[1] My teachers also weren't able to make me understand Math in my high school days, but it was not their fault. As a teenager, we tend to be lazy because of puberty stuffs and all the distractions that surrounds us. If other students were able to understand what real world economics, then you might be the problem and not the teacher. Seriously we can't blame our teacher. We can't say they are "not entertaining enough", "too boring", "not funny", etc. and so we don't want to learn from them. In addition to this, the education back then is different with the education today.
Bitcoin is not uniquely for the high school. Of course as the media and the general development can give some knowledge. But no more. Bitcoin is necessary to study in higher educational institutions.
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February 27, 2017, 05:34:52 AM
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My brother is now a high school student. and he is told about bitcoin, but not all of his friends to know and understand about bitcoin. although only few people who already know about it, but their response was very positive about this currency. for those bitcoin is the advancement of technology and can make them get an extra pocket money.

For students who understand about bitcoin, it is very simple for them how to use bitcoin wisely. But for the people who don't understand will confuse more about it because bitcoin is completely different terminology when compared to other currency. Even now it is not the right time to explain about bitcoin to student who are pursing high school.
Perhaps bitcoin is purely an individual theme. And who will come to this himself, he wants to learn more. But if we want to use bitcoin mass, it can not do without training people.
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February 27, 2017, 07:06:29 PM
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I remember that I was taught in school and what knowledge teachers were in high technologies. What is already talking about the children, when our teachers know the surface everything you need to know about a bitcoin and blockchain, I'm sure they have not even heard.
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When I was in school, at computer science lessons did not even remembered cryptocurrency. Of course it is a modern trend and advanced technologies, but I can not imagine who could in schools to talk about it. Teachers teach for thirty years programs.
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I have like no idea what they say in high schools about Bitcoin but i don't think that all the teacher will talk positive about it.
Maybe a few teachers who already know about Bitcoin but not all of them
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personnally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !

They said its illegal maybe because some of the government they think bitcoin is illegal, and bitcoin is unregulated due to its decentralization while the government is regulated in this industry.
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As young people today communicate with computers and other high-tech, many have already managed to get acquainted with cryptocurrency and anyone interested, he was already working with bitcoin as its knowledge.
but yet bitcoin is not use as currency in most of the places and most of the people have no approach to online shops therefore it is not as much necessary to teach to children about bitcoin and when the time will come then they should teach about bitcoin in school when all the people of the world will be using bitcoin as currency.
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Young people in schools are taught the US Constitution is an obsolete document & capitalism is evil.

Its not surprising teachers would also mislead them into believing bitcoin is evil as well.

They're being brought up to hate things that give them independence and freedom.
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High school students are young adults so I don't think there should be anything special to tell them apart from the whole truth about Bitcoin. There's no need to shield the truth from them as their generation might adopt Bitcoin as a currency and so we should present them the bare facts about Bitcoin.
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High school students are young adults so I don't think there should be anything special to tell them apart from the whole truth about Bitcoin. There's no need to shield the truth from them as their generation might adopt Bitcoin as a currency and so we should present them the bare facts about Bitcoin

I don't really know whether it is correct to speak of high school kids as students. I guess they should be rather called pupils (but that's likely just me). As to me, in high schools teachers should first of all provide basic and established knowledge such as mathematics or physics. If we are to remain realists we should accept the fact that Bitcoin is not what youngsters 15-17 years old should be told in classrooms. There are quite a few more important things that should be taught in high school

At max, Bitcoin related classes should be entirely facultative

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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :


1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

Misinformed the legality of Bitcoin depends on the jurisdiction because of that it is not necessarily an entirely accurate statement in fact less areas are in the grey as tax rules and laws have been set down in various countries regulating Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies perhaps he should be told of the Blockchain and it's infrastructure first and not look only at the fiat side of Bitcoin.


2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution through out the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

Well then I guess your professor knowingly did not look at Gold or mention it and how it has performed since the year 2000 as a leverage against the US dollar and Fiat currencies, he also for an economics professor seems to omit the fact that Quantitative easing was because of an unregulated stock market and that these artificial bubbles of wealth in housing were under this type of system.

Furthermore what is wrong with an asset appreciating in value as more people contribute to the system increased usage leads to price appreciation a fixed supply of Bitcoin sounds far more attractive than unlimited printing of new currency as it acts as a real cap on inflation and a mechanism of provable price appreciation.

(There was a run on Silver historically https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Thursday) Fun fact it failed but if that is his reference to bubble pop it is quite weak as the physical assets or digital assets of Bitcoin are owned by individuals and disbursed meaning it is susceptible to collective psychology like anything else.


3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognize any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

Bank runs and crashes are more than common look a person in the face and tell them that in Greece and Cyprus and they will say you are wrong looked what happened to us. Even India recalling all of its 10,000 Rupee notes leads to chaos and you see financial risk in normal Fiat and Banking.

Consider the underbanked in africa and the fees they pay to bank plus the distance and time it takes for rural africans to even bank and its just not a viable solution for all. Just because your money is safe plausibly under deposit insurance to an extent doesn't mean much when real shit goes down and in normal times bank balances as an investment class are terrible with low interest rates like anything else for comfort.

I guess you could buy a mutual fund and lose out on a lot of money and potential earnings from commission and brokerage fees as well and unless you have a big enough balance stocks are not in the cards. Or you could own something like Bitcoin directly and cash out at your leisure and at a reasonable price.

(We have literally 1000's of places that take Bitcoin now in cities all over that drug part is invalid in Japan alone 20,000 by the end of this year)
The future is bright
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/japan-see-20000-bitcoin-accepting-merchants-2017/


4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explanation was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.
Bitcoins been called dead countless times, its well alive and kicking.
Me and nearly 1.5 Billion Dollars invested into Venture capital will sit here and humbly disagree.
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-venture-capital/


I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !

It inspires me to tell him to go back to school for he got schooled

Believing in Bitcoins and it's ability to change the world
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March 03, 2017, 01:21:34 PM
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Five days ago, a friend of mine studying Economics at High School had a discussion with its teacher, regarding Bitcoin, since I told her about that. Here's what the teacher said :

1. That's illegal : He did not bring many proves here, just saying that since it has not been regulated as a currency, we were in a grey area, and something in a grey area is rarely something that will become totally white from one day to another. He added that the sole purpose of that was to buy all kind of drugs over the Internet.

2. It will crash : He said that he had studied Bitcoin's price evolution throught the time (what I doubt) and said her that being so constantly rising was a sign that it was not a viable project. Its proof : manipulated prices of things like silver or wheat are very stable !

3. Anyone clear in its head wouldn't use it : First, he doesn't recognise any kind of manipulation of the money and the danger that there is for people keeping all their savings in fiat. I know that because I had him as a teacher too some times ago. So trying to explaining him about the fact that there is a clear war against cash and evident facts, like that that shows our money need to be converted into something viable to be protected from massive surveillance, is useless. Him not understanding that, since its the best argument I have, I couldn't have replied. When she told him about the speed of transactions, he replied "we have PayPal", so I said me that it wasn't worth to ever try explaining anything. As a final point, he said again that the sole real use that is making standing apart is that you can buy drugs on the Internet...

4. Bitcoin at a bigger scale would fail : I couldn't explain you much what he said because what she told me wasn't very clear so I personnally did not understood, as her I presume how confuse her explaination was. To summarize, he said that it's still a little market and that it will fail to scale and will go back to close to nothing in value.

I'd like to get your feelings on that. Just call the arguments 1, 2, 3 and 4 and tell me what you would have replied back and what it does inspire you !

First of all, I think because your teacher is not research about bitcoin much so he just (maybe) effect those idea from some small text or just in some fact that very unilateral. I'm in that position too, I mean I was thought that bitcoin just a digital currency which can be used by illegal purpose. But yes, to know anything, you have to deeply study about it, after reading about dark-net, I started to learn about cryptocurrency, there are not many documents at that time but enough for me to understand various benefits of new coin technology. Bitcoin is not illegal if you think its not! Because nowadays, people use bitcoin for some of their daily supply and I think its faster and easier than fiat.
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Personally, I really don't think that Students in High School should be taught how to use Bitcoin because of how complicating it is and because of what people purchase with it. I know that it is just a payment system and people often use credit cards, debit cards and whatnot though Bitcoin is more flexible with anonymous payments if they know how to do the proper security defenses.

Most of the students within High School could ruin their lives with just a few clicks of a mouse.

I think in  this digital era high school students can easily know bitcoin only from the Internet, even some movies today mention bitcoin as you say, just a few clicks on the mouse. I think they already know about bitcoin, but they do not attract attention because appearing on the internet or movies simply use bitcoin for illegal things.

Iam first  know bitcoin while still in high school, but I know bitcoin able to increase the pocket money. So I decided to use bitcoin until today. And I think if they knew about it they would use bitcoin, especially at this time bitcoin can be used to buy something online. That where it is much-loved by the people today, especially young people. Thank you
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Personally, I really don't think that Students in High School should be taught how to use Bitcoin because of how complicating it is and because of what people purchase with it. I know that it is just a payment system and people often use credit cards, debit cards and whatnot though Bitcoin is more flexible with anonymous payments if they know how to do the proper security defenses.

Most of the students within High School could ruin their lives with just a few clicks of a mouse.

I think in  this digital era high school students can easily know bitcoin only from the Internet, even some movies today mention bitcoin as you say, just a few clicks on the mouse. I think they already know about bitcoin, but they do not attract attention because appearing on the internet or movies simply use bitcoin for illegal things.

Iam first  know bitcoin while still in high school, but I know bitcoin able to increase the pocket money. So I decided to use bitcoin until today. And I think if they knew about it they would use bitcoin, especially at this time bitcoin can be used to buy something online. That where it is much-loved by the people today, especially young people. Thank you
that's right mate bitcoin already been introduce in some movies and if you see from commercials with youtube and some website in google
they are able to get some curiosity and try to research it by themselves as we already in the era of technologies even young ones really
doing well adopting the system.
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Personally, I really don't think that Students in High School should be taught how to use Bitcoin because of how complicating it is and because of what people purchase with it. I know that it is just a payment system and people often use credit cards, debit cards and whatnot though Bitcoin is more flexible with anonymous payments if they know how to do the proper security defenses.

Most of the students within High School could ruin their lives with just a few clicks of a mouse.

I think in  this digital era high school students can easily know bitcoin only from the Internet, even some movies today mention bitcoin as you say, just a few clicks on the mouse. I think they already know about bitcoin, but they do not attract attention because appearing on the internet or movies simply use bitcoin for illegal things.

Iam first  know bitcoin while still in high school, but I know bitcoin able to increase the pocket money. So I decided to use bitcoin until today. And I think if they knew about it they would use bitcoin, especially at this time bitcoin can be used to buy something online. That where it is much-loved by the people today, especially young people. Thank you
that's right mate bitcoin already been introduce in some movies and if you see from commercials with youtube and some website in google
they are able to get some curiosity and try to research it by themselves as we already in the era of technologies even young ones really
doing well adopting the system.
Many teenagers are very much dependent on the Internet, and almost all of their time spend on the network. Therefore, there are cases where children are better oriented to high technology than their parents.
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Personally, I really don't think that Students in High School should be taught how to use Bitcoin because of how complicating it is and because of what people purchase with it. I know that it is just a payment system and people often use credit cards, debit cards and whatnot though Bitcoin is more flexible with anonymous payments if they know how to do the proper security defenses.

Most of the students within High School could ruin their lives with just a few clicks of a mouse.

I think in  this digital era high school students can easily know bitcoin only from the Internet, even some movies today mention bitcoin as you say, just a few clicks on the mouse. I think they already know about bitcoin, but they do not attract attention because appearing on the internet or movies simply use bitcoin for illegal things.

Iam first  know bitcoin while still in high school, but I know bitcoin able to increase the pocket money. So I decided to use bitcoin until today. And I think if they knew about it they would use bitcoin, especially at this time bitcoin can be used to buy something online. That where it is much-loved by the people today, especially young people. Thank you
that's right mate bitcoin already been introduce in some movies and if you see from commercials with youtube and some website in google
they are able to get some curiosity and try to research it by themselves as we already in the era of technologies even young ones really
doing well adopting the system.
Many teenagers are very much dependent on the Internet, and almost all of their time spend on the network. Therefore, there are cases where children are better oriented to high technology than their parents.
i do not think that it is such a good idea. i think it is the duty of their parents to avoids their children from the need of internet and in fct we are just wasting their time. i think they should give time to their education and after completing their duty when then become more mature should try to use bitoin.
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