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[npredtorch]

Op has a point.  This country does seem to have a huge problem with jackasses.  Some people are jealous of anyone smarter, better looking or happier than them.  These garbage like to harass others, at any rate some of us are not surprised by the huge number of mass shootings.  And to be honest some of this garbage deserves to die.  Why should op be basically run out of his country in pursuit of happiness.

It is not just in America who have jackasses. All places in the world have it, all places that is populated by people. They are everywhere

@OP Since you have already traveled in the Philippines, looks like you also know the things that you might face right after moving out. There is no real problem about it have time to explore, just don't leave all behind and be sure to have a backup plan just in case things weren't met.

[Sithara007]

Congrats! America will be a better place to live without brain-dead liberals like you. Also, you must renounce the American citizenship as soon as possible, else you have to pay income tax on your earnings in Philippines.

[TaunSew]

It's the same in the UK. I have a friend, who left the UK because of growing costs of living and moved to Australia. Not really a third world country, but he's really happy there. He used to have a business in the UK and couldn't afford anything besides a typical daily life, so if you're thinking of moving to Europe from the US, think twice.
As for the Philippines I also have a friend who lives there and he spends most of his year working abroad in Australia and Germany as a salesman. He said to me once that it's very hard to live and work in his country and people usually live in poverty or work abroad.

Australia has fairly high wages and arguably low cost of living.  You can get a roommate situation for as low as $600 AUD a month and yet make $2,880 a month.  

You speak as if to go to Australia is easy. You tried to live at 40 degrees and 100% humidity? Besides, there are very many poisonous snakes, crocodiles and spiders. In the ocean, sharks and poisonous sea animals, and jellyfish.

And you're speaking like it's easy to live in cold climate. I had a chance to live in a house heated by a coal furnace with temperatures close to -10*C outside and it's no fun either.

-10*C is warm

I had been waking up to -30*C for the last days.  The urban legend of everything past -5 feels the same isn't true at all.  I can crack open the window and my hair will freeze.

You can go to sleep with 4 blankets on and still wake up freezing, because almost no building is insulated for this extreme weather.

I don't bother with winter jackets but thermal underwear and thermal undershirts can be very expensive.

In addition to heating, a big cost people in warmer climates don't know about is vehicle.  You need 2 sets of tires, 1 being winter tires and they go up to $1,000.  Almost everyone also has been rear-ended or trashed their car because of driving conditions.

[TaunSew]

Panama is an easy country to get into. I have lived here on a tourist visa for 5 years now. for those of you interested: http://expatriate.space/2016/11/09/residency-options-for-panama/

I was interested when I found out you could work towards a permanent residency.  Then I thought about it and thought maybe it's not realistic.  What's the odds for maintaining a work visa, although there is a 30 day window, for 4 years?  That means you cannot ever get fired or, if you get fired, then you get 30 days to lineup a job but most English teaching positions only hire twice a year.

Seems the easiest way, so long as you have money laying around, is to stay on a student visa studying some fluff or investing $150,000.

[bryant.coleman]

Before the election results came out, a lot of celebrities had declared that they will be immigrating to other countries (especially Canada and Mexico), if Trump becomes the President of the United States. Almost one month has passed since he won the elections, and none of the celebrities have renounced their American passports.

[Klima]

Before the election results came out, a lot of celebrities had declared that they will be immigrating to other countries (especially Canada and Mexico), if Trump becomes the President of the United States. Almost one month has passed since he won the elections, and none of the celebrities have renounced their American passports.

I doubt that anyone would agree to surrender his American passport, but that's not it. The fact that a very large number of people do not support policies Trump will bring more tension in the society.

[TaunSew]

Before the election results came out, a lot of celebrities had declared that they will be immigrating to other countries (especially Canada and Mexico), if Trump becomes the President of the United States. Almost one month has passed since he won the elections, and none of the celebrities have renounced their American passports.

I doubt that anyone would agree to surrender his American passport, but that's not it. The fact that a very large number of people do not support policies Trump will bring more tension in the society.

You exaggerate

This is the era of Slacktivism.  Most of the effort you can get out of millenials is a like on Facebook.  Even at those Dakota Access protests, not counting the locals who had an actual incentive to do something, all the protesters were professional protesters (some were Canadian / European) and middle-aged university academia who took vacation time.

Only time millenials went out in droves was those Occupy Wall Street protesters and they were predominately white millenials too.  Those young white people will be Trump's support base if he does deliver on jobs.

[TaunSew]

Before the election results came out, a lot of celebrities had declared that they will be immigrating to other countries (especially Canada and Mexico), if Trump becomes the President of the United States. Almost one month has passed since he won the elections, and none of the celebrities have renounced their American passports.

I doubt that anyone would agree to surrender his American passport, but that's not it. The fact that a very large number of people do not support policies Trump will bring more tension in the society.

The irony is there is NOT a single celebrity who can't afford a country like Mexico.  Mexico only wants something like $130,000 USD to get an investor visa, which grants you permanent residency and citizenship after 5 years - IIRC.

I'm sure there could be 1000s and 10,000s of Americans who left America just because of Trump, but how many get naturalized or born each year?  How many unemployed college graduates get churned out every semester?  Ditto.

[Tyrantt]

Before the election results came out, a lot of celebrities had declared that they will be immigrating to other countries (especially Canada and Mexico), if Trump becomes the President of the United States. Almost one month has passed since he won the elections, and none of the celebrities have renounced their American passports.

I've never heard any celebrity saying that they'l move to mexico



So are we going to start a fundraiser to get them one way tickets or...?

[TaunSew]

What's that island that Roger Ver tried to get his citizenship?  St. Kitts?  They have a Hilton and a KFC - the 2 things a celebrity in exile needs. 

[protokol]

Before the election results came out, a lot of celebrities had declared that they will be immigrating to other countries (especially Canada and Mexico), if Trump becomes the President of the United States. Almost one month has passed since he won the elections, and none of the celebrities have renounced their American passports.

I've never heard any celebrity saying that they'l move to mexico



So are we going to start a fundraiser to get them one way tickets or...?

A person doesn't neccesarily need to renounce their US passport to emigrate to another country, they can gain dual citizenship in many (but not all) cases.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-and-dual-nationality/dual-nationality.html

[nutildah]

sold a dime

[TaunSew]

Nutildah

All my reading so far has implied there's plenty of work for illegal english gigs.  Pretty sure you won't go destitute unless you're lazy or in an area with no one willing to learn English. 

Still teaching English is a dead end.  I would focus on technology or some other lucrative side gig.

[malcovixeffect]

Before the election results came out, a lot of celebrities had declared that they will be immigrating to other countries (especially Canada and Mexico), if Trump becomes the President of the United States. Almost one month has passed since he won the elections, and none of the celebrities have renounced their American passports.

I doubt that anyone would agree to surrender his American passport, but that's not it. The fact that a very large number of people do not support policies Trump will bring more tension in the society.

It already has, by quite a bit. We really screwed up this time. Yet Hillary and her people have no one to blame but themselves.

First 6 days, booked! I'll be hitting up Angeles and Subic Bay first as I hear they have large expat communities and are relatively modernized. Any other suggestions of where to go on Luzon would be greatly appreciated.

If you dont like the warm climate, try going to Tagaytay and Baguio.

[jhony99]

Before the election results came out, a lot of celebrities had declared that they will be immigrating to other countries (especially Canada and Mexico), if Trump becomes the President of the United States. Almost one month has passed since he won the elections, and none of the celebrities have renounced their American passports.

noone will never leave ...all these celebrities can only live is usa..they will never leave usa...

[TaunSew]

Before the election results came out, a lot of celebrities had declared that they will be immigrating to other countries (especially Canada and Mexico), if Trump becomes the President of the United States. Almost one month has passed since he won the elections, and none of the celebrities have renounced their American passports.

noone will never leave ...all these celebrities can only live is usa..they will never leave usa...

Yeah USA is the worse place on earth
until you go to any other country.


Interestingly - I saw a list of countries with the most America expats and Italy was #1 on the list.  Italy is where the American elites like going, I think, although not all Americans there are rich (Amanda Knox today is living in a trailer park).


I have been to countless countries around the world and I can tell you a lot of the universal problems.  Nice hotels isn't the problem - it's usually just the plain lack of good services.  I would be surprised if anyone can offer better services than Socal.  I can get good sushi on the west coast but what kind can I get in Budapest or Tallinn?  Ditto

[kodoll]

Before the election results came out, a lot of celebrities had declared that they will be immigrating to other countries (especially Canada and Mexico), if Trump becomes the President of the United States. Almost one month has passed since he won the elections, and none of the celebrities have renounced their American passports.

noone will never leave ...all these celebrities can only live is usa..they will never leave usa...

It's all PR. Some stars have received Russian citizenship. They're prostitutes and sold to Putin for the money, but none of them lives in Russia. USA is one of the best countries in the world and therefore nobody's going anywhere.

[Sithara007]

Yeah USA is the worse place on earth
until you go to any other country.

Interestingly - I saw a list of countries with the most America expats and Italy was #1 on the list.  Italy is where the American elites like going, I think, although not all Americans there are rich (Amanda Knox today is living in a trailer park).

Italy is almost broke now, and the tax rates are over the roof. The income tax is at least 100% more than that in the United States, and gasoline costs almost 200% higher. I will be very surprised if these people opt for Italy.

[nutildah]

sold a rolex

[malcovixeffect]

I liked Baguio a lot the first time I went there; the climate is much more manageable. The people didn't like me so much in Baguio for whatever reason. On my trip I was treated anywhere from being John Mayer to a poor black man in the south in the 1950s. I might try to stop at Tagaytay, heard it has a large expat community as well.

they have a different view from the people in the lowlands , up there they would treat you as a normal person thats why famous local artist doesnt visit Baguio often.
If you do visit again expect to bumped into some Koreans and blacks