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August 23, 2019, 04:26:50 PM
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Canned sardines with egg, Canned Sardines with soy sauce and vinegar, Cheap vegetables that you can ask for a cheaper price, Noodles etc. There also a lot of carienderias everywhere which you can have a decent food, with rice free soup and unlimited water (lol)  for only Php 60.00 = $1.5 +- , For dresses there are also thrift shops everwhere, cheap but decent dresses. Ask her to cook you some "dilis" or "tuyo", I think you would love it.

Robbery or Akyat Bahay, is an inevitable "entity" specially in crowded places or squatter areas.

I mean, That is what Philippines can offer,decent job means decent life but what it makes difficult to live here is the Shitty Government, and that's the reality, this Government is Anti-Poor and that's part of living here, taking all the shit and also i forgot to add the Traffic, Inconvenience in Commuting, Guess you experienced the hell of commuting.

The discussion is getting funny at the same time serious in here.

It is kind of romantic when someone from a much well-off country (which I suppose you are from) speaks of canned sardines and carinderias in a positive way. The sad thing, however, is that ₱60 may be cheap to you but not to many of the ordinary citizens here. If one ordinary worker spends ₱60 per meal here, he'll be spending ₱180/day for meals alone. That could mean one is eating up more than half of his daily wage. That cannot be. There won't be anything left for the family if that's the case.

The worse thing here is that the government does not make anything better. I suppose the government where you are coming from is looking after the welfare of its people. The government here can only offer lip service.   

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August 23, 2019, 08:54:39 PM
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I read a news article the other day that talked about a woman in the States who needed a knee replacement. She, her doctor, and Social Security all agreed on performing the operation in Mexico, at a medically approve facility. The cost was less than half of what it would have cost her in the States, and that included transportation costs for both, herself and her doctor.

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I read a news article the other day that talked about a woman in the States who needed a knee replacement. She, her doctor, and Social Security all agreed on performing the operation in Mexico, at a medically approve facility. The cost was less than half of what it would have cost her in the States, and that included transportation costs for both, herself and her doctor.


Only a 50% savings?  I'd say the woman is getting totally screwed.  Seems like medical cost 1/10th U.S. prices in The Philippines, and often much less than that.

Anyway, fixing this bug seems like the only purpose for Trump's 'wall' between the U.S. and Mexico.  I've said all along that the 'wall' is mostly a 'virtual' thing involving trade and political agreements.

When it comes to moving peeps back and forth I have no reason to believe other than that peep inflows will progress as (((certain people))) consider necessary for their goals.  Indigent low skilled people who will go on welfare are more than welcome.  Read Clowerd-Piven.

As for peep outflows, increased individual monitoring ('real-ID' to cross state lines and such) will stop-loss for the medical/industrial complex.  I predict that you will be welcome to go to Mexico for treatment as long as you reimburse the U.S. healthcare system for their losses through taxes and surcharges and the like, and as long as the Mexican treatment regimes are as disastrous for your health as the U.S. one is.  Probably it will have to be overseen by the same (((group of planners))) ultimately.

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As for peep outflows, increased individual monitoring ('real-ID' to cross state lines and such) will stop-loss for the medical/industrial complex.  I predict that you will be welcome to go to Mexico for treatment as long as you reimburse the U.S. healthcare system for their losses through taxes and surcharges and the like, and as long as the Mexican treatment regimes are as disastrous for your health as the U.S. one is.  Probably it will have to be overseen by the same (((group of planners))) ultimately.


Until a few hearty Americans take the Real-ID perpetrators to court, man-to-man, for right to travel infringement.

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August 26, 2019, 03:21:24 PM
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I didn't quite get this part... How do you live in a place like that if it's so dangerous? The US passport can provide access almost to any country, why did you choose this? But I think that's a great experience anyway.

Well, parts of anywhere, especially the U.S., can be pretty dangerous. The same situation could have happened if I was living in a bad part of a hundred different cities in America.

I chose the Philippines for 2 reasons, mainly: cost of living was low and I like the women. After the first time I really experienced Angeles City, woow, I was hooked! There's absolutely nothing like that in America. Here's a video if you want to get an idea of what I'm talking about (I didn't really watch it but it will give you the basic idea of what's up):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXEn9fkA7gg

Then after I lived there for almost a year, I was just like, ehh... I'm over it. So I moved on. Basically, just don't be an ass and you'll be fine. You have to really be open to changing your attitude about things as well. Its good to be a "go with the flow" kind of person and not expect to have your way all the time, or you'll be extremely disappointed.

The discussion is getting funny at the same time serious in here.

It is kind of romantic when someone from a much well-off country (which I suppose you are from) speaks of canned sardines and carinderias in a positive way. The sad thing, however, is that ₱60 may be cheap to you but not to many of the ordinary citizens here. If one ordinary worker spends ₱60 per meal here, he'll be spending ₱180/day for meals alone. That could mean one is eating up more than half of his daily wage. That cannot be. There won't be anything left for the family if that's the case.

The worse thing here is that the government does not make anything better. I suppose the government where you are coming from is looking after the welfare of its people. The government here can only offer lip service.  

The wealth gap is unfathomable. People complain about it in America, but its like 5x wider here. The middle class are about 100x richer than the poor. I can't understand how some people can make 180 pesos a day (approx. $3.60) and some make 5,000 per day. That's the width of the middle class. Millions make even less than 180 per day. All I can do is be thankful that I was born where I was born - which allowed me to have the privileges that I do - and try to be humble about it. The last thing I would ever do is be a douche nozzle to the locals because of it.

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August 27, 2019, 09:34:11 AM
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I didn't quite get this part... How do you live in a place like that if it's so dangerous? The US passport can provide access almost to any country, why did you choose this? But I think that's a great experience anyway.

Well, parts of anywhere, especially the U.S., can be pretty dangerous. The same situation could have happened if I was living in a bad part of a hundred different cities in America.

I chose the Philippines for 2 reasons, mainly: cost of living was low and I like the women. After the first time I really experienced Angeles City, woow, I was hooked! There's absolutely nothing like that in America. Here's a video if you want to get an idea of what I'm talking about (I didn't really watch it but it will give you the basic idea of what's up):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXEn9fkA7gg

Then after I lived there for almost a year, I was just like, ehh... I'm over it. So I moved on. Basically, just don't be an ass and you'll be fine. You have to really be open to changing your attitude about things as well. Its good to be a "go with the flow" kind of person and not expect to have your way all the time, or you'll be extremely disappointed.

The discussion is getting funny at the same time serious in here.

It is kind of romantic when someone from a much well-off country (which I suppose you are from) speaks of canned sardines and carinderias in a positive way. The sad thing, however, is that ₱60 may be cheap to you but not to many of the ordinary citizens here. If one ordinary worker spends ₱60 per meal here, he'll be spending ₱180/day for meals alone. That could mean one is eating up more than half of his daily wage. That cannot be. There won't be anything left for the family if that's the case.

The worse thing here is that the government does not make anything better. I suppose the government where you are coming from is looking after the welfare of its people. The government here can only offer lip service.  

The wealth gap is unfathomable. People complain about it in America, but its like 5x wider here. The middle class are about 100x richer than the poor. I can't understand how some people can make 180 pesos a day (approx. $3.60) and some make 5,000 per day. That's the width of the middle class. Millions make even less than 180 per day. All I can do is be thankful that I was born where I was born - which allowed me to have the privileges that I do - and try to be humble about it. The last thing I would ever do is be a douche nozzle to the locals because of it.

Yes, the gap between the layers of society is a real scourge of people. But how to deal with it? Some countries seem to have dealt with this, but I do not understand enough how they dealt with it.
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I chose the Philippines for 2 reasons, mainly: cost of living was low and I like the women.
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I chose The Philippines because I met a woman who I thought could help me with some things I wanted to do.  I didn't know initially that she was Filipino because she was working elsewhere.  Only when I found out did I start to study the place and decided that it had a lot of positives for me.

I'm not sure why I didn't consider The Philippines more strongly earlier.  I think that there is a dedicated effort world-wide to shit-talk The Philippines and I was partially a victim of it.  It is especially strong in the country itself.  I suspect that the reason for this is related to the 'demoralization' that Yuri Bezmenov talks about as one phase in destabilizing and overthrowing a country.  Unfortunately it has worked pretty well.  Lots of Filipinos consider their country hopeless.  I'm more and more convinced that it is not.  Obviously it's got some problems, but so does every country.

My hope is that Duterte and future presidents increase the concept of nationalism among the people and address some of the main problems that the nation has.  I'm quite convinced that many of the problems are artificially inserted, and the drug problems specifically.  Probably the communist problems and the radical Islamic issues as well.


The wealth gap is unfathomable. People complain about it in America, but its like 5x wider here. The middle class are about 100x richer than the poor. I can't understand how some people can make 180 pesos a day (approx. $3.60) and some make 5,000 per day. That's the width of the middle class. Millions make even less than 180 per day. All I can do is be thankful that I was born where I was born - which allowed me to have the privileges that I do - and try to be humble about it. The last thing I would ever do is be a douche nozzle to the locals because of it.

I left the U.S. in part because I wanted to try to make a positive contribution and wanted my money to NOT go toward causing worldwide misery and death.  These things and general depravity are, in my opinion, about the only exports that the U.S. does any more.  In a place like The Philippines where there is so much need one can make a tiny positive contribution in peoples lives about a dozen times per day just being alive.  I like the feeling of living this way.

Another reason I set up for a '2nd option' is that I do think there is a certain well-more-than-zero percent chance of some real problems in the U.S. of the type that few people can really imagine, and it could realistically happen within my lifetime.  I think that my country has sunk so low because our leadership has been captured by some real scumbags.  Worse, I don't think that these people have any more care for the U.S. than they have for any of the other nations which we are in the process of imploding.  We are just a useful tool for now.  When our usefulness is over it will be our turn in the barrel, and we may get it even worse than, say, Libya because that will be the most useful and 'safest' outcome for our tormentors.  'Controlled Demolition', bitches.


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I chose the Philippines for 2 reasons, mainly: cost of living was low and I like the women.
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I chose The Philippines because I met a woman who I thought could help me with some things I wanted to do.  I didn't know initially that she was Filipino because she was working elsewhere.  Only when I found out did I start to study the place and decided that it had a lot of positives for me.

I'm not sure why I didn't consider The Philippines more strongly earlier.  I think that there is a dedicated effort world-wide to shit-talk The Philippines and I was partially a victim of it.  It is especially strong in the country itself.  I suspect that the reason for this is related to the 'demoralization' that Yuri Bezmenov talks about as one phase in destabilizing and overthrowing a country.  Unfortunately it has worked pretty well.  Lots of Filipinos consider their country hopeless.  I'm more and more convinced that it is not.  Obviously it's got some problems, but so does every country.

My hope is that Duterte and future presidents increase the concept of nationalism among the people and address some of the main problems that the nation has.  I'm quite convinced that many of the problems are artificially inserted, and the drug problems specifically.  Probably the communist problems and the radical Islamic issues as well.


The wealth gap is unfathomable. People complain about it in America, but its like 5x wider here. The middle class are about 100x richer than the poor. I can't understand how some people can make 180 pesos a day (approx. $3.60) and some make 5,000 per day. That's the width of the middle class. Millions make even less than 180 per day. All I can do is be thankful that I was born where I was born - which allowed me to have the privileges that I do - and try to be humble about it. The last thing I would ever do is be a douche nozzle to the locals because of it.

I left the U.S. in part because I wanted to try to make a positive contribution and wanted my money to NOT go toward causing worldwide misery and death.  These things and general depravity are, in my opinion, about the only exports that the U.S. does any more.  In a place like The Philippines where there is so much need one can make a tiny positive contribution in peoples lives about a dozen times per day just being alive.  I like the feeling of living this way.

Another reason I set up for a '2nd option' is that I do think there is a certain well-more-than-zero percent chance of some real problems in the U.S. of the type that few people can really imagine, and it could realistically happen within my lifetime.  I think that my country has sunk so low because our leadership has been captured by some real scumbags.  Worse, I don't think that these people have any more care for the U.S. than they have for any of the other nations which we are in the process of imploding.  We are just a useful tool for now.  When our usefulness is over it will be our turn in the barrel, and we may get it even worse than, say, Libya because that will be the most useful and 'safest' outcome for our tormentors.  'Controlled Demolition', bitches.

If the US will have problems, the rest of the world will have "problems squared".  North America will always be the mecca to go to, in good times and in bad times.

People who bitch about the US don't have any idea what they are bitching about.  The US has the best universities, the best hospitals, best high-tech companies, the best financial system, it is the place where the smartest people on the planet want to go to live and study.

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If the US will have problems, the rest of the world will have "problems squared".  North America will always be the mecca to go to, in good times and in bad times.


'Always' is a long time.  I'm sure that the people of Babel and the people of Sodom thought the same thing.  I myself drank the Koolaid for most of my life and believed about as you describe more-or-less.  I'm currently of the opinion that A) it's 'more fun' to live in a place with is improving than one which is disintegrating even if the curves have yet to meet, and B) a population which has grown up living closer to the edge will be much more capable of coping with hard times.  Some might not even notice!

People who bitch about the US don't have any idea what they are bitching about.  The US has the best universities, the best hospitals, best high-tech companies, the best financial system, it is the place where the smartest people on the planet want to go to live and study.


I think I have an idea of what I'm bitching about since I've lived in both and I currently live surprisingly happily in The Philippines.  My level of enjoyment and contentment have so far vastly exceeded my expectations.  Ceasing my participation in the decadence and debauchery of the United States is like having a great stone that I only vaguely realized was there lifted from my chest.

I would highly encourage anyone who can to go to the U.S. to milk it.  For instance, if one can get a medical degree, by all means go to the U.S..  Something (cough...vaccines...cough...) has made it so a vast majority of 'mericans are sick with chronic illnesses so as a doctor one doesn't even need to 'cure' them.  They've been conditioned to not even expect it!  Just hand out some meds and make millions.  Even if a particular peep doesn't have the money to pay you 50x what you could get in most countries, the health care system so socialized that someone else will pay the bill.

That's just one way of many to get rich.  I suggest that a person keeps their foot in the door and be ready to bail at a moments notice though.  When the U.S. falls it's going to be 'biblical' so to speak.




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I have talked about leaving here and there, as well. But I haven't done it, yet. Does this make me only a B-leaver?

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I didn't quite get this part... How do you live in a place like that if it's so dangerous? The US passport can provide access almost to any country, why did you choose this? But I think that's a great experience anyway.

Well, parts of anywhere, especially the U.S., can be pretty dangerous. The same situation could have happened if I was living in a bad part of a hundred different cities in America.

I chose the Philippines for 2 reasons, mainly: cost of living was low and I like the women. After the first time I really experienced Angeles City, woow, I was hooked! There's absolutely nothing like that in America. Here's a video if you want to get an idea of what I'm talking about (I didn't really watch it but it will give you the basic idea of what's up):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXEn9fkA7gg

Then after I lived there for almost a year, I was just like, ehh... I'm over it. So I moved on. Basically, just don't be an ass and you'll be fine. You have to really be open to changing your attitude about things as well. Its good to be a "go with the flow" kind of person and not expect to have your way all the time, or you'll be extremely disappointed.

The discussion is getting funny at the same time serious in here.

It is kind of romantic when someone from a much well-off country (which I suppose you are from) speaks of canned sardines and carinderias in a positive way. The sad thing, however, is that ₱60 may be cheap to you but not to many of the ordinary citizens here. If one ordinary worker spends ₱60 per meal here, he'll be spending ₱180/day for meals alone. That could mean one is eating up more than half of his daily wage. That cannot be. There won't be anything left for the family if that's the case.

The worse thing here is that the government does not make anything better. I suppose the government where you are coming from is looking after the welfare of its people. The government here can only offer lip service.  

The wealth gap is unfathomable. People complain about it in America, but its like 5x wider here. The middle class are about 100x richer than the poor. I can't understand how some people can make 180 pesos a day (approx. $3.60) and some make 5,000 per day. That's the width of the middle class. Millions make even less than 180 per day. All I can do is be thankful that I was born where I was born - which allowed me to have the privileges that I do - and try to be humble about it. The last thing I would ever do is be a douche nozzle to the locals because of it.

This is very great. I also wanted to live in Philipines for some time and still do. I think it must be a great experience after all. But honestly, I didn't know that it was so dangerous there. I guess it's relatively safe anyway, compared to most of the part of South America or Africa. So yeah, you just need to be a bit cautious, and nothing bad will happen
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This is very great. I also wanted to live in Philipines for some time and still do. I think it must be a great experience after all. But honestly, I didn't know that it was so dangerous there. I guess it's relatively safe anyway, compared to most of the part of South America or Africa. So yeah, you just need to be a bit cautious, and nothing bad will happen

Yes, you pretty much summed it up. Just don't be an ass, which includes being a dick or getting too drunk in public, and also be mindful of your surroundings, and you'll be fine. I highly recommend trying it out.

I also recommend everybody get out of their comfort zone from time to time and travel somewhere completely foreign to them as its an eye opening experience and gives you a newfound perspective on things. People who sit around the house all day, all year, year after year, just telling themselves that they know things, don't actually know much of jack.

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August 28, 2019, 10:22:17 AM
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This is very great. I also wanted to live in Philipines for some time and still do. I think it must be a great experience after all. But honestly, I didn't know that it was so dangerous there. I guess it's relatively safe anyway, compared to most of the part of South America or Africa. So yeah, you just need to be a bit cautious, and nothing bad will happen

Yes, you pretty much summed it up. Just don't be an ass, which includes being a dick or getting too drunk in public, and also be mindful of your surroundings, and you'll be fine. I highly recommend trying it out.

I also recommend everybody get out of their comfort zone from time to time and travel somewhere completely foreign to them as its an eye opening experience and gives you a newfound perspective on things. People who sit around the house all day, all year, year after year, just telling themselves that they know things, don't actually know much of jack.

Or as Henry Rollins once said, "Knowledge without miles equals bullshit."

Smiles without miles is only the "S" in bullshit.     Cool

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