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January 27, 2017, 10:18:26 AM
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Why do you void arbitrage winnings? You don't allow arbitrage on your site? Do you mean he bet on double side to decrease the risk? IMO it is acceptable.

Hi jujugoboom, I think you confuse arbitrage betting with "matched betting". An arbitrator bets on double "sites" and he "doesn't decrease risk", he takes none. No matter the match result, he will always have a small gain. Different sportsbooks have different policies about arbitrage, we are against it.

How can you know that it was arbitrage betting?

Do you have the data of other betting sites in order to collerate both?
That's impossible to know for the gambling site...

Detecting arbitrage betting is rather easy for an operator as there are pretty clear and simple indicators. You could actually google about it and its detection.

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January 27, 2017, 10:20:58 AM
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Why do you void arbitrage winnings? You don't allow arbitrage on your site? Do you mean he bet on double side to decrease the risk? IMO it is acceptable.

Hi jujugoboom, I think you confuse arbitrage betting with "matched betting". An arbitrator bets on double "sites" and he "doesn't decrease risk", he takes none. No matter the match result, he will always have a small gain. Different sportsbooks have different policies about arbitrage, we are against it.

How can you know that it was arbitrage betting?

Do you have the data of other betting sites in order to collerate both?
That's impossible to know for the gambling site...

Detecting arbitrage betting is rather easy for an operator as there are pretty clear and simple indicators. You could actually google about it and its detection.

If it's so easy why not posting proof then?
Cause here to be fair we just see one guy who lost all his winnings because YOU decided to void them.
Doesn't sound very nice :/

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January 27, 2017, 10:25:48 AM
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If it's so easy why not posting proof then?
Cause here to be fair we just see one guy who lost all his winnings because YOU decided to void them.
Doesn't sound very nice :/

We can do that as long as we have his approval to disclose his betting activity on this forums.

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January 27, 2017, 11:00:24 AM
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If it's so easy why not posting proof then?
Cause here to be fair we just see one guy who lost all his winnings because YOU decided to void them.
Doesn't sound very nice :/

We can do that as long as we have his approval to disclose his betting activity on this forums.
Wahou, wasn't expecting that answer.

Well it seems like Powerbet.io is acting in a very professional way here.
If you want to go further you'll have to give them your approval man, otherwise they seem to be in their whole right to void your bets.

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January 27, 2017, 12:54:20 PM
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I was overall happy with Powerbet.io
The important part is the low margin bets. You won't find better odds than on this site most of the time xD

After fact is that the site is a bit... Let's say it's very basic. And there isn't lots of different bets all things considered :/
But otherwise it's pretty cool. Had no problem until now.

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January 27, 2017, 04:57:26 PM
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If it's so easy why not posting proof then?
Cause here to be fair we just see one guy who lost all his winnings because YOU decided to void them.
Doesn't sound very nice :/

We can do that as long as we have his approval to disclose his betting activity on this forums.
Wahou, wasn't expecting that answer.

Well it seems like Powerbet.io is acting in a very professional way here.
If you want to go further you'll have to give them your approval man, otherwise they seem to be in their whole right to void your bets.

Powerbet.io, Please share everything what you can. I would also like to know that I was involved in arbitage betting.
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I was overall happy with Powerbet.io
The important part is the low margin bets. You won't find better odds than on this site most of the time xD

After fact is that the site is a bit... Let's say it's very basic. And there isn't lots of different bets all things considered :/
But otherwise it's pretty cool. Had no problem until now.


Even I was very happy mate. Please see my previous post on this forum before I was banned. Smiley
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January 27, 2017, 05:50:05 PM
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Powerbet.io, Please share everything what you can. I would also like to know that I was involved in arbitage betting.

Since we got his approval, here are just a few bets that contain clear indications of arbitrage betting (the 1st and most important is the stake value, than betting on double result - aggressive arbitrage - and - not to be ignored - the leagues the bets are placed on, which can also be a sign of arbitrage), of a rather long list:

Sc-esv Parndorf vs Ask Royal Sped Klingenbach   Asian Handicap -1.5 Stake 92.27

Arsenal Tula vs Shakhtyor Karagandy Asian Handicap -1.5 Stake 51.39

Lokomotiv Moscow vs Cska Sofia   Three Way - Cska Sofia Stake 40.04

Lokomotiv Moscow vs Cska Sofia   Three Way - Draw Stake 51.82

The list can continue with stakes such as: 15.79, 8.84, 66.18, 132.21, 36.49, 94.05, 94.85, 58.61, 40.37 and so on.

For the punter, we strongly suggest this article: http://sportsarbitrageguide.com/avoiding_bookmaker_limits.php


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January 27, 2017, 06:06:33 PM
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Since we got his approval, here are just a few bets that contain clear indications of arbitrage betting (the 1st and most important is the stake value, than betting on double result - aggressive arbitrage - and - not to be ignored - the leagues the bets are placed on, which can also be a sign of arbitrage), of a rather long list:

Sc-esv Parndorf vs Ask Royal Sped Klingenbach   Asian Handicap -1.5 Stake 92.27

Arsenal Tula vs Shakhtyor Karagandy Asian Handicap -1.5 Stake 51.39

Lokomotiv Moscow vs Cska Sofia   Three Way - Cska Sofia Stake 40.04

Lokomotiv Moscow vs Cska Sofia   Three Way - Draw Stake 51.82

The list can continue with stakes such as: 15.79, 8.84, 66.18, 132.21, 36.49, 94.05, 94.85, 58.61, 40.37 and so on.

For the punter, we strongly suggest this article: http://sportsarbitrageguide.com/avoiding_bookmaker_limits.php


This is probably behavioural pattern of an arber but its not actually proof that the customer is arbing.
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January 27, 2017, 09:57:29 PM
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As i see you are an 1xbet/1xbit clone  (on markets and odds with different layout)

You cant void bets saying that the bettor is an arbitrag bettor, this is bullshit

Some traditional bookmakers tired to make such rules that arbitrage betting is not allowed ,   none of them in businnes now
And of corse if you would have  any gambling license then it wont take too long, if the bettor make a complaint to the regulator and you try to explain it you void those bets because of arbitraging


You have only the right to limit the user and if you detect he makes another account you can freeze it, if you have such rules that only one account allowed.


so you have to resettle those bets according to results




"As i see you are an 1xbet/1xbit clone  (on markets and odds with different layout)" - Absolutely no connection.

"You cant void bets saying that the bettor is an arbitrag bettor, this is bullshit " - Bets were placed in violation of our policy against arbitrage, therefore they were voided.

"Some traditional bookmakers tired to make such rules that arbitrage betting is not allowed ,   none of them in businnes now" - Actually pretty much all major sportsbooks are against arbitrage and don't accept it, with only one major exception: Pinnacle. Also, this thread is not about discussing whether sportsbooks should or shouldn't accept arbitrage. Feel free to start your own thread on the matter.

"You have only the right to limit the user and if you detect he makes another account you can freeze it, if you have such rules that only one account allowed." - Multi-accounting is also not allowed with us.

We've shown the community that our decision to void the arbitrator bets was based on his activity, which contained not "probably behavioural pattern of an arber", but obvious behavioral pattern of an arbiter. We have a constantly growing number of players, some of them have been with us from the very beginning and the vast majority of our players has chosen to stay and bet on our platform. For us, this speaks volume, this demonstrates that we've done something well!

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+1

Another question :

Did you void the winner bets only  or the loser ones too ?




Only winner bets. After last two wins my balance should have been 510 mbtc and thay updated it to 0. No details nothing and just banned me permanently.

@spbettor Your entire activity consisted of arbitrage bets and they were all voided accordingly and your account with us has been permanently banned for repeated violation of our terms of service. None of you deposited funds were confiscated, at the time we voided your bets your withdrawn amount was higher than your deposits. On the other hand, we appreciate the fact that you no longer claim your activity was not arbitrage betting, after we posted the obvious proves!

@sbrzol - "As i see  there is nothing about arbitrage betting in your tos" - "Please define what means recreational for you powerbet , i am not an expert in such not common words meaning" - We already made a public stance on this subject on another thread started by another arbitrator that was detected and limited (again, we didn't confiscate his deposits), but we'll re-iterate it here: we consider arbitrage as a form of professional betting (it can't be called "gambling") and we don't accept arbitrage betting on our website.
Arbitrators aren't even gamblers, gambling involves the idea of "risk", while an arbitrator takes no risks. So could you please tell us why you are so fervent in defending a non-gambler on a thread posted under a forum section called "Gambling"? As we already pm-ed you, if you want to start a discussion on arbitrage and various bookmakers policies on it, please do so, but not in this thread and certainly, not in the Gambling section.

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January 28, 2017, 02:29:46 PM
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Hey guys, I'm getting this message when trying to place a bet using my bonus money:

bonus.bonus_account.bet_place_not_permitted_before_player_account

what does this mean?

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Hey guys, I'm getting this message when trying to place a bet using my bonus money:

bonus.bonus_account.bet_place_not_permitted_before_player_account

what does this mean?

Hi M0w, this indicates that you didn't achieve the initial 1X rollover required to activate your bonus balance for betting. Please send us a pm with your registered email or username and we'll analyze your bonus activation status.

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Hey guys, I'm getting this message when trying to place a bet using my bonus money:

bonus.bonus_account.bet_place_not_permitted_before_player_account

what does this mean?

Hi M0w, this indicates that you didn't achieve the initial 1X rollover required to activate your bonus balance for betting. Please send us a pm with your registered email or username and we'll analyze your bonus activation status.

Okay thanks I have sent you a PM with my username

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February 01, 2017, 12:35:42 PM
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I see some complaints about confiscation and void winning bets, which is unfair IMO, if you don't accept their bets, yhey will bet elsewhere, and you lose customers.
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February 01, 2017, 06:23:22 PM
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I see some complaints about confiscation and void winning bets, which is unfair IMO, if you don't accept their bets, yhey will bet elsewhere, and you lose customers.

There was no confiscation involved.
Voiding was performed on all arbitrage bets (not just winning ones) and this resulted in the arbitrator having a negative balance with us due to his previous withdrawals, which exceeded his deposits. If we lose arbitrage players, than it means our policy against arbitrage is giving results.


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There are some uncoded strings and you show the parameters to us. I see many games do not have odds? Also NFL has not, your odds do not display, mind to fix it?
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This is what I see from https://powerbet.io/account

There are some uncoded strings and you show the parameters to us. I see many games do not have odds? Also NFL has not, your odds do not display, mind to fix it?

Could you please tell us what browser did you use? For us odds are displayed, also those uncoded strings are not displayed.
We'd appreciate if could also provide a screenshot (maybe email it to our support address).

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This is what I see from https://powerbet.io/account

There are some uncoded strings and you show the parameters to us. I see many games do not have odds? Also NFL has not, your odds do not display, mind to fix it?

Could you please tell us what browser did you use? For us odds are displayed, also those uncoded strings are not displayed.
We'd appreciate if could also provide a screenshot (maybe email it to our support address).

Chrome 55.0.2883.87 m, maybe it was lag, I refreshed many times, after that it is ok. The live betting can be displayed too.
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