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February 14, 2017, 04:52:28 PM
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Real freedom is something quite wicked. As you may see, the freedom we are allowed is limited, as we cannot trespass on other's freedoms, rights and lives. Real freedom would consist of no rules or morals, resulting in anarchy. That's why humans must always be chained down at some extent for their own safety and even the safety of their surroundings.
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February 14, 2017, 05:21:31 PM
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real freedom is freedom of speech,freedom to associate with people around you,freedom of religoin and to worship any god you want to
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February 14, 2017, 05:23:28 PM
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Real freedom is something quite wicked. As you may see, the freedom we are allowed is limited, as we cannot trespass on other's freedoms, rights and lives. Real freedom would consist of no rules or morals, resulting in anarchy. That's why humans must always be chained down at some extent for their own safety and even the safety of their surroundings.

True people, free of sin, evil and hatred, are completely free.
They found their freedom in God's hands and love.
It's absolute freedom.
People who are slaves of sin are not free, of course.
They are slaves of sin and such people is really difficult to control.
They fight only for their individual, selfish freedom and don't care about others.
In such world there is no real, absolute freedom, only chaos and living hell.


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February 14, 2017, 05:56:31 PM
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real freedom is freedom of speech,freedom to associate with people around you,freedom of religoin and to worship any god you want to
I disagree with you. You offer slavish mentality. You have the freedom to worship whom you want and just talk about it freely? What kind of freedom? You even clergymen called servant of God! As a slave can be free?
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February 15, 2017, 06:53:30 PM
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Real freedom is something quite wicked. As you may see, the freedom we are allowed is limited, as we cannot trespass on other's freedoms, rights and lives. Real freedom would consist of no rules or morals, resulting in anarchy. That's why humans must always be chained down at some extent for their own safety and even the safety of their surroundings.

True people, free of sin, evil and hatred, are completely free.
They found their freedom in God's hands and love.
It's absolute freedom.
People who are slaves of sin are not free, of course.
They are slaves of sin and such people is really difficult to control.
They fight only for their individual, selfish freedom and don't care about others.
In such world there is no real, absolute freedom, only chaos and living hell.




I have to agree with you. The freedom I was talking about is limited to the world of the living. If we move to the Gods and souls stage, it is a completely different things. As concepts, feelings and morals may not exist in that world, freedom is definitely not the same. In my opinion, God is the only one who has true freedom, as he creates and destroys, gives life and takes it.
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February 15, 2017, 07:17:50 PM
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Real freedom is something quite wicked. As you may see, the freedom we are allowed is limited, as we cannot trespass on other's freedoms, rights and lives. Real freedom would consist of no rules or morals, resulting in anarchy. That's why humans must always be chained down at some extent for their own safety and even the safety of their surroundings.

True people, free of sin, evil and hatred, are completely free.
They found their freedom in God's hands and love.
It's absolute freedom.
People who are slaves of sin are not free, of course.
They are slaves of sin and such people is really difficult to control.
They fight only for their individual, selfish freedom and don't care about others.
In such world there is no real, absolute freedom, only chaos and living hell.




I have to agree with you. The freedom I was talking about is limited to the world of the living. If we move to the Gods and souls stage, it is a completely different things. As concepts, feelings and morals may not exist in that world, freedom is definitely not the same. In my opinion, God is the only one who has true freedom, as he creates and destroys, gives life and takes it.
God can't give you freedom. Religious leaders can only promise freedom after death. This is nonsense. Nothing after death will not. They thus avoid responsibility for their promises. I don't believe them.
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February 16, 2017, 07:35:37 PM
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Real freedom is something quite wicked. As you may see, the freedom we are allowed is limited, as we cannot trespass on other's freedoms, rights and lives. Real freedom would consist of no rules or morals, resulting in anarchy. That's why humans must always be chained down at some extent for their own safety and even the safety of their surroundings.

True people, free of sin, evil and hatred, are completely free.
They found their freedom in God's hands and love.
It's absolute freedom.
People who are slaves of sin are not free, of course.
They are slaves of sin and such people is really difficult to control.
They fight only for their individual, selfish freedom and don't care about others.
In such world there is no real, absolute freedom, only chaos and living hell.




I have to agree with you. The freedom I was talking about is limited to the world of the living. If we move to the Gods and souls stage, it is a completely different things. As concepts, feelings and morals may not exist in that world, freedom is definitely not the same. In my opinion, God is the only one who has true freedom, as he creates and destroys, gives life and takes it.
God can't give you freedom. Religious leaders can only promise freedom after death. This is nonsense. Nothing after death will not. They thus avoid responsibility for their promises. I don't believe them.

Oh, that's also another side of the problem. Real freedom we refered to couldn't be possibly attained. It would make you the same as God basically. That's why I personally see it as something quite beautiful. It is like watching a bird fly and wishing you could too.
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February 16, 2017, 07:42:35 PM
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Real freedom is something quite wicked. As you may see, the freedom we are allowed is limited, as we cannot trespass on other's freedoms, rights and lives. Real freedom would consist of no rules or morals, resulting in anarchy. That's why humans must always be chained down at some extent for their own safety and even the safety of their surroundings.

True people, free of sin, evil and hatred, are completely free.
They found their freedom in God's hands and love.
It's absolute freedom.
People who are slaves of sin are not free, of course.
They are slaves of sin and such people is really difficult to control.
They fight only for their individual, selfish freedom and don't care about others.
In such world there is no real, absolute freedom, only chaos and living hell.




I have to agree with you. The freedom I was talking about is limited to the world of the living. If we move to the Gods and souls stage, it is a completely different things. As concepts, feelings and morals may not exist in that world, freedom is definitely not the same. In my opinion, God is the only one who has true freedom, as he creates and destroys, gives life and takes it.
God can't give you freedom. Religious leaders can only promise freedom after death. This is nonsense. Nothing after death will not. They thus avoid responsibility for their promises. I don't believe them.

Oh, that's also another side of the problem. Real freedom we refered to couldn't be possibly attained. It would make you the same as God basically. That's why I personally see it as something quite beautiful. It is like watching a bird fly and wishing you could too.
I don't want to be free as God because it doesn't exist I want to exist. Absolute freedom does not exist. Man lives in society, and in society there are certain rules dictated by the majority. You have no chance at freedom.
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February 17, 2017, 08:40:55 PM
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Real freedom is something quite wicked. As you may see, the freedom we are allowed is limited, as we cannot trespass on other's freedoms, rights and lives. Real freedom would consist of no rules or morals, resulting in anarchy. That's why humans must always be chained down at some extent for their own safety and even the safety of their surroundings.

True people, free of sin, evil and hatred, are completely free.
They found their freedom in God's hands and love.
It's absolute freedom.
People who are slaves of sin are not free, of course.
They are slaves of sin and such people is really difficult to control.
They fight only for their individual, selfish freedom and don't care about others.
In such world there is no real, absolute freedom, only chaos and living hell.




I have to agree with you. The freedom I was talking about is limited to the world of the living. If we move to the Gods and souls stage, it is a completely different things. As concepts, feelings and morals may not exist in that world, freedom is definitely not the same. In my opinion, God is the only one who has true freedom, as he creates and destroys, gives life and takes it.
God can't give you freedom. Religious leaders can only promise freedom after death. This is nonsense. Nothing after death will not. They thus avoid responsibility for their promises. I don't believe them.

Oh, that's also another side of the problem. Real freedom we refered to couldn't be possibly attained. It would make you the same as God basically. That's why I personally see it as something quite beautiful. It is like watching a bird fly and wishing you could too.
I don't want to be free as God because it doesn't exist I want to exist. Absolute freedom does not exist. Man lives in society, and in society there are certain rules dictated by the majority. You have no chance at freedom.


Alright if that's how you think, then what do you think about people who live away from society? Would not having rules make them free?
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February 17, 2017, 08:44:54 PM
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Real freedom is one can do anything he wants without disturbing or hurting others I guess.
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February 18, 2017, 03:29:23 PM
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The real freedom is living without any  bandages in given morality. Some think that the real freedom is doing whatever we want. But it is not a real freedom. According to religions God gives us freedom. God created us and allows us to do our own. he does not interfere in our actions. It is our response to act in right or wrong way.       
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February 24, 2017, 05:03:05 PM
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In my view, the real freedom is by going far away from all those things that are giving me pain and putting a great burden to me. There is another kind of freedom to me is that helping the wounded or poor people. That gives much pleasure. And where there is pleasure, there is freedom.

And yes! I have got it many times.

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March 19, 2017, 04:48:11 PM
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All of us are connected with something and we can only choose what to associate with. It is difficult for a person to know what real freedom is, because society always dictates its rules.
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March 29, 2017, 02:15:27 AM
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Freedom is being able to do a fair amount of what you want.  But never everything, because life is complex.
 
People want different things, and also have differing views on what should be suppressed.  Really, it is a subjective concept
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March 29, 2017, 03:19:54 AM
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my view in freedom is the ability to make decisions on our own.,Freedom is the right to do and speak everything you want if it does not limit the rights and freedoms of other people Sometimes we take freedom for granted and don’t think of all the little things that we get to enjoy because we are free. ..,It makes you very thankful to live here and enjoy the promise of freedom.

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March 29, 2017, 03:10:23 PM
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If we see toward government then we got freedom in this way that there is many types of feedom gave by our government such as to express our feelings,to get proper judgement,to take participate in pollitics even if we belong from any cast etc. But in sense of familiar life we can never be get a real freedom because we have to follow the order of parents, if we do job in any where then we have to obey their rules etc.thus we can say that no one can get true freedom in life.

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March 29, 2017, 08:14:21 PM
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To me, freedom is the absence of obligations to anyone. In any country of the world it is not possible. It seems to me that this is only possible on an uninhabited island. And then you will depend on the supply of products. Absolute freedom does not exist. Man is a gregarious creature, but in the herd there is always the laws of society.
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March 30, 2017, 11:32:37 AM
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Freedom is the absence of attachments, get up without an alarm clock and go to bed whenever you want, do what you like, when you want, lack of dependence or coercion from other people, knowledge of yourself and the world around you.
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March 30, 2017, 12:58:01 PM
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Wow, this is a very difficult question to answer because everyone things different things about what freedom is. For example for me, I'm free to say whatever I want but I can't insult someone with my words, I'm free to choose what eat I want to eat, I can't kill someone without consequences etc. But still even that isn't enough for everyone.The laws every country have are not perfect and have to change them, but they are working good, not perfect. I still believe that we are far away from what really means freedom but I hope one day all of us have the experience of it Smiley
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March 30, 2017, 01:23:37 PM
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To me, freedom is the absence of obligations to anyone. In any country of the world it is not possible. It seems to me that this is only possible on an uninhabited island. And then you will depend on the supply of products. Absolute freedom does not exist. Man is a gregarious creature, but in the herd there is always the laws of society.

Freedom can be promised only on an uninhabited island, but you need to learn how to get food and take care of your survival so as not to depend on the supply of food. In real life, I do not know such free people, but I read on the Internet about hermits. Such people went very far into the forest and lived there alone.
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