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April 11, 2013, 08:35:38 AM
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If this guy is real they do not even have a working ASIC that could be used for a product. It seems the ASIC supplier had to fix the design and now they have to create new masks and start the next waver run. Great BFL - another 8-12 weeks until we will see the next prototype!

With this piece of information it's clear why BFL is silent at the moment.
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April 11, 2013, 08:43:20 AM
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A redditor claims to have visited BFL unannounced within the last 24 hours and sounds pretty underwhelmed by what he saw.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c3hyc/toured_butterflylabs_a_few_hours_ago/

This is something redditors near Kansas City have been talking about doing for a couple of days.

Based on the convo, it sounds like their trying to solder every chip by hand...  Ouch.
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April 11, 2013, 09:43:36 AM
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A redditor claims to have visited BFL unannounced within the last 24 hours and sounds pretty underwhelmed by what he saw.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c3hyc/toured_butterflylabs_a_few_hours_ago/

This is something redditors near Kansas City have been talking about doing for a couple of days.

Based on the convo, it sounds like their trying to solder every chip by hand...  Ouch.

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April 11, 2013, 10:59:06 AM
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A redditor claims to have visited BFL unannounced within the last 24 hours and sounds pretty underwhelmed by what he saw.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c3hyc/toured_butterflylabs_a_few_hours_ago/

This is something redditors near Kansas City have been talking about doing for a couple of days.

Based on the convo, it sounds like their trying to solder every chip by hand...  Ouch.

I was under the impression that for the first batch the assembly of the boards was being done by an assembly house and that the in-house assembly was just going to be a matter of BFL screwing components into the cases.

Perhaps whatever is actually wrong with the units means this original plan needs to be revised.

Has there been any word whatsoever on when the next 6 wafers will be ready or when the bulk order will be finished.  These were each supposed to be completed only weeks after the Batch 1 chips were bumped and packaged.  The Batch 1 chips obviously aren't going to fill very many orders given the power problems and the need to ship multiple units to meet advertised hash rates, so when in the hell can those who pre-ordered between August and January expect delivery?


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April 11, 2013, 11:09:19 AM
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BFL answer: End of April.

My opinion: Not before the next waver run creates a fixed and working ASIC. Minimum 12 weeks, propably longer.
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April 11, 2013, 11:51:48 AM
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BFL answer: End of April.

End of April seems to be their best case scenario date for shipping the first units to people other than developers.  I've seen nothing which indicates that the second batch of wafers have even been completed yet, let alone bumped and packaged.  I've definitely seen nothing which indicates that the fab is currently working on the bulk order for 63,000 chips - which I suspect are going to be needed to fill the majority of gen 1 pre-orders.

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April 11, 2013, 12:32:13 PM
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I assume that they stopped the wafer production and maybe start again when the prototypes are working and fix the power consumption problems. I think, at the moment they have no ASIC that can be used to build a product.
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April 11, 2013, 01:53:39 PM
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A redditor claims to have visited BFL unannounced within the last 24 hours and sounds pretty underwhelmed by what he saw.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c3hyc/toured_butterflylabs_a_few_hours_ago/

This is something redditors near Kansas City have been talking about doing for a couple of days.

I actually know this guy (used to work with him) and talked to him on Skype last night. Everything he saw coincides with what they've said. They had 1 unit hashing with some people working on it, and basically nothing else. If they are waiting on new boards with new power regulators then of course they wouldn't be doing anything besides software tweaks.

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April 11, 2013, 02:15:26 PM
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If they are waiting on new boards with new power regulators then of course they wouldn't be doing anything besides software tweaks.

Which makes on think: What did they do the last 9 month (besides waiting and playing Minecraft)?

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April 11, 2013, 02:19:24 PM
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If they are waiting on new boards with new power regulators then of course they wouldn't be doing anything besides software tweaks.

Which makes on think: What did they do the last 9 month (besides waiting and playing Minecraft)?

...also telling new potential investors that you will ship an ASIC mining product ordered today in July is simply fraudulent. This will not happen unless hundreds of orders that came before are cancelled. They've been constantly lying about delivery dates this way for nearly a year now.

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April 11, 2013, 06:09:00 PM
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You guys are just jelly that BFL has more fans than haters.

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April 11, 2013, 06:13:26 PM
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Yeah. Boxes of fans. Maybe than can reuse the fans in their singles when they receive the new ASICs where the power problems are fixed.
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April 11, 2013, 07:44:29 PM
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Man, it sure would have been cool to sell those BFL mined coins at $250 a piece, wouldn't it.

Oh well, i guess $12 a piece is still cool.
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April 11, 2013, 07:48:38 PM
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Man, it sure would have been cool to sell those BFL mined coins at $250 a piece, wouldn't it.

Oh well, i guess $12 a piece is still cool.

$12 x 0 = $250 x 0

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April 11, 2013, 09:00:20 PM
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Interesting transcript with Dave from BFL I found on that reddit link.

It confirms BFL doesn't have a set shipping date yet, and they are full of shit when it comes to shipping "next week".

http://pastebin.com/HpxTwUNW

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April 11, 2013, 10:01:31 PM
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Interesting transcript with Dave from BFL I found on that reddit link.

It confirms BFL doesn't have a set shipping date yet, and they are full of shit when it comes to shipping "next week".

http://pastebin.com/HpxTwUNW

Color me shocked.

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April 11, 2013, 10:03:53 PM
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I'd hardly say that qualifies as a transcript.

On that note, what the hell is BFL even doing?


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April 11, 2013, 10:24:27 PM
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I'd hardly say that qualifies as a transcript.

On the note, what the hell is BFL even doing?



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April 12, 2013, 01:02:23 AM
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Interesting transcript with Dave from BFL I found on that reddit link.

It confirms BFL doesn't have a set shipping date yet, and they are full of shit when it comes to shipping "next week".

http://pastebin.com/HpxTwUNW

Color me shocked.

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April 12, 2013, 01:10:07 AM
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Interesting transcript with Dave from BFL I found on that reddit link.

It confirms BFL doesn't have a set shipping date yet, and they are full of shit when it comes to shipping "next week".

http://pastebin.com/HpxTwUNW

Color me shocked.

Ready for some more color? There is no 1164 SW Hillsdale in Topeka, KS. In fact, there is no street at all named Hillsdale in Topeka, KS. But there is such a place in Shawnee, KS, just outside Kansas City. My guess is that in the backyard one would find chickens.

Google sure seems to think your wrong: https://maps.google.com/maps?client=ubuntu&channel=cs&q=1164+SW+Hillsdale+St+Topeka,+KS+66604%3F&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x87bf0282a350ae01:0x247d5324ead23e3c,1164+SW+Hillsdale+St,+Topeka,+KS+66604&gl=us&ei=L19nUa2TOenuyQGv2oDYDg&ved=0CDMQ8gEwAA
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