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July 24, 2017, 11:32:22 AM
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This was addressed in February. Some people (primarily accounts created or which have suddenly become active in the past month or two here and on reddit) continue to bring this issue up. Read the Smith and Crown article if you want a fairly unbiased account of where it stands. Nothing has changed because it's he-said vs he-said. There is no consensus to come to regarding a "solution", or anything to "clear up". We've made our statement and he disagrees with it; there's nothing else to be done. Furthermore, all of the things that Smith and Crown have said would rectify this concern in their eyes have already been accomplished, such as financial transparency and our code being released with all of the things implemented we said we would. Additionally, Qtum has 3 co-founders, it's not just one person running the entire project. We manage ourselves in a way that it's impossible, even if 1 of us became corrupt, to just up and run away with the crowdfunded money. This is common sense in any blockchain project like this. It's not 2014 anymore, where everyone naively shares a single-sig wallet. And finally, that article that "hangs over our head" is alone.. Well, I guess there's also that funny guy on youtube that said all the code me and my team had worked on (and that ~8 teams built hackathon projects on in the past 24 hours) actually doesn't exist. I literally LOL'd when I watched that just at the pure irony and timing of it.

Where was this addressed in February, and more importantly, can we still read the statement? I have read the SmithandCrown article and David's side of the story, but I would very much like to hear Patrick's. I agree with you entirely that Qtum has been more transparent than nearly any other project out there. With that being said, when people bring up the one-sided BitBay story, it's very hard to argue when you don't even know what Dai says about his own involvement.
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These accusation are getting old. If anyone has any doubt just ask one question - is Dai currently in jail for embezzlement, scam or theft? No, he is not. There is no evidence or proof to substantiate any of the accusations. Qtum is moving forward each week, it has partnerships with big Chinese organisations and Dapps are being build on Qtum network even before the release of the main net. The trading volume has reached 50M over the weekend. It's clearly not a scam - you have to be mentally challenged to believe that it is.
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July 24, 2017, 01:20:04 PM
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Announcing the winners of the Distributed 2017 Hackathon in St. Louis:




Winner of the $10,000.00 prize awarded in Qtum tokens:

D-REX (Built on Qtum Testnet)

Portions of this project received funding from the World Bank

Lead Developer: Dev Bharel


D-REX (Distributed Real-time Energy Exchange)

https://devpost.com/software/d-rex


Abstract: Provide a marketplace for financiers and providers to issue and purchase electricity futures. By creating a market for microfinancing generation of electricity we can crowdfund infrastructure to provide electricity for the 1.5 billion people in the world currently without.

User Groups:

Consumers:

Consumers are the people interacting with the electric generators to receive electricity. They spend Solar Tokens using their mobile client (or SMS codes) at generators to pay for electricity in kilowatt hour chunks.
They can also create requests for solar generators in their region, detailing location, wattage usage, reason for electricty need, etc, which can be bid on by providers and funded by financiers.  


Providers:

Providers bid on requests from consumers. They provide bids detailing type of solar energy unit, cost of installation, time for installation, their insurance, etc.

(FUTURE) Need to be verified or have some reputation modeling or have some sort of insurance.


Insurers:

Planned for the future
Insure providers or financiers
Provide derivatives of energy futures. Sell part ownership of many utilities for n time.
Financiers:
Can be large institutions (Royal Bank of Scotland, Deutsche Bank, etc) or anyone with money. Can even be part or fully owned by the community itself.
Get the emotional payout of helping bring electricity to the underprivileged as well as the financial incentive into micro financing infrastructure.  


Specs:

Request:  {
   “Location”: STRING,
   “Creator”: STRING, //address of the owner who submitted the tx
   “WATTAGE_REQ”: INT,
   “REASON”: STRING
}

Bid: {
   “ProviderAddr”: STRING,
   “Unit_type”: STRING,
   “Cost_of_installation”: INT
}

Process:

Consumers make a request for a new generator. They list the location, wattage requirements, reason for request, etc.
Providers look through requests and bid on them. They include the type of generator, cost of installation, time for installation, insurance, etc. This bidding process is open for ONE WEEK. Consumers can then accept one of the bids, at which point...
Financiers bid on consumer accepted requests. This process is open for ONE MONTH. If the request is successfully funded a generator contract is created to represent the pending device.
The Financiers that own the the generator should all call the smart contract and submit their preferred cost for electricity the smart contract should charge. The price is the average of all submitted values weighted by the ownership stake each financier has. If no financier has submitted a price request, then the average is just 0 and the generator runs for free. If only some of the financiers have provided a price, it’s just the average of the ones provided. If you don’t vote, you don’t get a voice and must accept the price set by your co financiers.

The Provider that won the bid then installs the generator in the location specified.
The Consumer that issued the request than approves the installation by instantiating the generator by sending an initial token to it. The first tx MUST be by the Consumer that issued the request. After initialization, the generator can be funded by anyone and used by anyone.

Consumers can then fund the generator get electricity. They pay in solar tokens which are then disbursed to financiers proportionate to their ownership stake in the generator. Consumers can buy these solar tokens from exchanges.
Financiers make money by selling their solar tokens on exchanges to anyone who wants to buy. Solar tokens have a consumptive value on the platform, not just a speculative value, so there’s always a demand.



Tech:

Contracts:

Solar Tokens: ERC 20 token contract. ICO a limited supply of x million .
MarketPlace (split into two sections):
New Generators: Consumers make requests with the given metadata (location, wattage, reason for request, etc). Request is bid on and then awarded.
Old Generators: Financiers can sell all or part of their ownership of their generators or even market futures and based on the generators ownerships they own.

Generators:

Each generator is it’s own smart contract. Issues 10,000 (100.00%) ownership tokens at inception based on proportionate financing.
GetAvg(): read only function that returns the average price of what the generator should charge for electricity.
Status pending until first tx which needs to be done by Consumer who created the initial request.
(Future) Funds set aside for maintenance / some catch for it.  

Stack:

Flask Microservice to interact with Qtum RPC
React front end for UI




Interesting Points:


Very interesting use case for trusted execution environments. Only the solar generator should be able to make its transactions, someone shouldn’t be able to mess with it.
Smart Contracts built with generic “Utility Model”. Crowdfunding electricity now, but could crowdfund any utility (Water Mill, Textile Machines, etc…)
Providers can have radically different ways units and reputation. There should be a insurer for


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July 24, 2017, 02:47:25 PM
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Announcing the winners of the Distributed 2017 Hackathon in St. Louis:




Winner of the $10,000.00 prize awarded in Qtum tokens:

D-REX (Built on Qtum Testnet)

Portions of this project received funding from the World Bank

Lead Developer: Dev Bharel


D-REX (Distributed Real-time Energy Exchange)

https://devpost.com/software/d-rex


Abstract: Provide a marketplace for financiers and providers to issue and purchase electricity futures. By creating a market for microfinancing generation of electricity we can crowdfund infrastructure to provide electricity for the 1.5 billion people in the world currently without.

User Groups:

Consumers:

Consumers are the people interacting with the electric generators to receive electricity. They spend Solar Tokens using their mobile client (or SMS codes) at generators to pay for electricity in kilowatt hour chunks.
They can also create requests for solar generators in their region, detailing location, wattage usage, reason for electricty need, etc, which can be bid on by providers and funded by financiers.  


Providers:

Providers bid on requests from consumers. They provide bids detailing type of solar energy unit, cost of installation, time for installation, their insurance, etc.

(FUTURE) Need to be verified or have some reputation modeling or have some sort of insurance.


Insurers:

Planned for the future
Insure providers or financiers
Provide derivatives of energy futures. Sell part ownership of many utilities for n time.
Financiers:
Can be large institutions (Royal Bank of Scotland, Deutsche Bank, etc) or anyone with money. Can even be part or fully owned by the community itself.
Get the emotional payout of helping bring electricity to the underprivileged as well as the financial incentive into micro financing infrastructure.  


Specs:

Request:  {
   “Location”: STRING,
   “Creator”: STRING, //address of the owner who submitted the tx
   “WATTAGE_REQ”: INT,
   “REASON”: STRING
}

Bid: {
   “ProviderAddr”: STRING,
   “Unit_type”: STRING,
   “Cost_of_installation”: INT
}

Process:

Consumers make a request for a new generator. They list the location, wattage requirements, reason for request, etc.
Providers look through requests and bid on them. They include the type of generator, cost of installation, time for installation, insurance, etc. This bidding process is open for ONE WEEK. Consumers can then accept one of the bids, at which point...
Financiers bid on consumer accepted requests. This process is open for ONE MONTH. If the request is successfully funded a generator contract is created to represent the pending device.
The Financiers that own the the generator should all call the smart contract and submit their preferred cost for electricity the smart contract should charge. The price is the average of all submitted values weighted by the ownership stake each financier has. If no financier has submitted a price request, then the average is just 0 and the generator runs for free. If only some of the financiers have provided a price, it’s just the average of the ones provided. If you don’t vote, you don’t get a voice and must accept the price set by your co financiers.

The Provider that won the bid then installs the generator in the location specified.
The Consumer that issued the request than approves the installation by instantiating the generator by sending an initial token to it. The first tx MUST be by the Consumer that issued the request. After initialization, the generator can be funded by anyone and used by anyone.

Consumers can then fund the generator get electricity. They pay in solar tokens which are then disbursed to financiers proportionate to their ownership stake in the generator. Consumers can buy these solar tokens from exchanges.
Financiers make money by selling their solar tokens on exchanges to anyone who wants to buy. Solar tokens have a consumptive value on the platform, not just a speculative value, so there’s always a demand.



Tech:

Contracts:

Solar Tokens: ERC 20 token contract. ICO a limited supply of x million .
MarketPlace (split into two sections):
New Generators: Consumers make requests with the given metadata (location, wattage, reason for request, etc). Request is bid on and then awarded.
Old Generators: Financiers can sell all or part of their ownership of their generators or even market futures and based on the generators ownerships they own.

Generators:

Each generator is it’s own smart contract. Issues 10,000 (100.00%) ownership tokens at inception based on proportionate financing.
GetAvg(): read only function that returns the average price of what the generator should charge for electricity.
Status pending until first tx which needs to be done by Consumer who created the initial request.
(Future) Funds set aside for maintenance / some catch for it.  

Stack:

Flask Microservice to interact with Qtum RPC
React front end for UI




Interesting Points:


Very interesting use case for trusted execution environments. Only the solar generator should be able to make its transactions, someone shouldn’t be able to mess with it.
Smart Contracts built with generic “Utility Model”. Crowdfunding electricity now, but could crowdfund any utility (Water Mill, Textile Machines, etc…)
Providers can have radically different ways units and reputation. There should be a insurer for



Congrats to the winners!  Second and third place???
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July 24, 2017, 03:58:34 PM
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i participated in qtum ico, but i come here the first time, god bless qtum
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July 24, 2017, 06:48:38 PM
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Question

My Qtum is still at https://qtum.bizhongchou.com/qtum_ico is it ok there for now or do I need to move it? Also is there a windows wallet available yet to move it to. Thanks

For security, your account has been locked. Email acctcomp15@theymos.e4ward.com
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Question

My Qtum is still at https://qtum.bizhongchou.com/qtum_ico is it ok there for now or do I need to move it? Also is there a windows wallet available yet to move it to. Thanks

Someone who was able to withdraw successfully from Bizhonchou should make a guide or something.  Half the questions in slack/forum is how to withdraw ERC token from Biz.

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July 25, 2017, 12:07:06 AM
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My Qtum is still at https://qtum.bizhongchou.com/qtum_ico is it ok there for now or do I need to move it? Also is there a windows wallet available yet to move it to. Thanks

Someone who was able to withdraw successfully from Bizhonchou should make a guide or something.  Half the questions in slack/forum is how to withdraw ERC token from Biz.

Bizhongchou published their own guide and used exactly that to withdraw. If really is that big of a need if I get a chance I'll put together a video next week.
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My Qtum is still at https://qtum.bizhongchou.com/qtum_ico is it ok there for now or do I need to move it? Also is there a windows wallet available yet to move it to. Thanks

Someone who was able to withdraw successfully from Bizhonchou should make a guide or something.  Half the questions in slack/forum is how to withdraw ERC token from Biz.

Bizhongchou published their own guide and used exactly that to withdraw. If really is that big of a need if I get a chance I'll put together a video next week.

That would be excellent, thanks for offering, I'm sure many will appreciate.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/russellflannery/2017/07/20/forbes-china-unveils-list-of-300-top-innovators-entrepreneurs-and-leaders-under-age-30/2/#59c2f51051d7



Forbes China, the Chinese-language edition of Forbes, today unveiled the  2017 edition of its annual “30 Under 30 China” list featuring 300 young innovators, entrepreneurs and leaders who are challenging conventions and making an impact in the world.

The list includes 30 members under the age of 30 for each of the 10 categories that make up the list. The 10 categories include consumer technology;  enterprise technology; entertainment and sports;  the arts; finance and venture capital;  industry, manufacturing and energy; healthcare and science; social entrepreneurs and education; media, marketing and advertising; and retail and e-commerce.

The oldest listee was born in 1987; the youngest are two 17-year-olds, Roy Wang and Jackson Yi, from the teenage Chinese boy band TFBOYS. Other notable listees include Dai Wei, founder of bicycle-sharing company ofo.

Listees were vetted in part by more than 30 judges including Ctrip CEO Jane Sun, Sequoia Capital China's founding and managing partner Neil Shen, ZhenFund founder Bob Xu, IDG Capital Global chairman Hugo Shong and Primavera Capital founder Fred Hu.  The full list appears below.

Note: Names marked with an asterisk are mainland members of the Forbes “30 Under 30 Asia” list published in April (click here for more details).  Click here for the Chinese-language version of this list.







that's great news!

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July 27, 2017, 01:43:50 AM
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Qtum co-founder and CEO, Patrick Dai, chosen as one of Forbes China Top 30 Under 30



https://www.forbes.com/sites/russellflannery/2017/07/20/forbes-china-unveils-list-of-300-top-innovators-entrepreneurs-and-leaders-under-age-30/#1b05ed7b471e




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Excellent news! Even Forbes does not do due dillegence in to known scammers. Well done Forbes!

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July 28, 2017, 12:53:14 AM
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Has anyone had any luck moving tokens to the qt wallet?
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Hey qtum developers! When will QTUM hit a western exchange? is there any date for this? bcz i dont wanna use chinese exchanges, they wanna KYC.



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July 28, 2017, 02:31:56 AM
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Hey qtum developers! When will QTUM hit a western exchange? is there any date for this? bcz i dont wanna use chinese exchanges, they wanna KYC.

It's already on bittrex.  Theyre' just erc20 placeholder tokens.  Mainnet releases in sept

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July 28, 2017, 06:39:57 AM
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Energolabs is first ICO on Qtum platform currently accepting btc and qtum token.


http://energolabs.com/#/ico/


Appear that in a few months of development, Qtum is ahead of Neo.  Neo will not have ICO on their platform until either end of 2017 or 2018.
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July 28, 2017, 07:20:56 AM
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i dono man, Dai looks older then 29.
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July 28, 2017, 08:15:46 AM
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Can I withdraw my token from allcoin to bittrex ?
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July 28, 2017, 12:37:27 PM
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Excellent news! Even Forbes does not do due dillegence in to known scammers. Well done Forbes!

Unbelievable that Forbes would print this without research. I suppose none of the financial icons can be trusted anymore.

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