Bitcoin Forum
May 04, 2024, 03:35:17 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 ... 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 [106] 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 »
  Print  
Author Topic: HOWTO: create a 100% secure wallet  (Read 276149 times)
Orgonix23
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 17
Merit: 0



View Profile WWW
April 06, 2013, 04:20:57 PM
 #2101

This is a great thread, thanks everyone
1714836917
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714836917

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714836917
Reply with quote  #2

1714836917
Report to moderator
1714836917
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714836917

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714836917
Reply with quote  #2

1714836917
Report to moderator
Remember that Bitcoin is still beta software. Don't put all of your money into BTC!
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
pyedpyper
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 172
Merit: 100


View Profile
April 06, 2013, 04:54:40 PM
 #2102

Thanks - very useful Smiley
tex83rb
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 606
Merit: 500



View Profile
April 06, 2013, 05:35:04 PM
 #2103

truly interesting... but what about for create an encrypted pgp container  - install in it a virtual machine with linux, and manage here the wallet.dat ? of course backing it up through email or other services....


 
 
           ▄████▄
         ▄████████▄
       ▄████████████▄
     ▄████████████████▄
    ████████████████████      ▄█▄                 ▄███▄                 ▄███▄                 ▄████████████████▀   ▄██████████

  ▄▄▄▀█████▀▄▄▄▄▀█████▀▄▄▄     ▀██▄             ▄██▀ ▀██▄             ▄██▀ ▀██▄             ▄██▀                   ██
▄█████▄▀▀▀▄██████▄▀▀▀▄█████▄     ▀██▄         ▄██▀     ▀██▄         ▄██▀     ▀██▄         ▄██▀        ▄█▄          ▀██████████████▄
████████████████████████████       ▀██▄     ▄██▀         ▀██▄     ▄██▀         ▀██▄     ▄██▀          ▀█▀                        ██
 ▀████████████████████████▀          ▀██▄ ▄██▀             ▀██▄ ▄██▀     ▄█▄     ▀██▄ ▄██▀                                       ██
   ▀████████████████████▀              ▀███▀                 ▀███▀       ▀█▀       ▀███▀      ▄███████████████████████████████████▀
     ▀████████████████▀
       ▀████████████▀
         ▀████████▀
           ▀████▀
║║


║║
.
.

║║
██
║║
.
.

║║
██
║║
.
║║


║║
minefish
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 50
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 06, 2013, 05:48:18 PM
 #2104

Good starting guide for the newcomers!

Is this same procedure possible for lite coin and other crypto-currency wallets?
yawhide
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 6
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 06, 2013, 06:49:45 PM
 #2105

excellent guide, many thanks
Bitmeat
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 28
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 06, 2013, 07:00:13 PM
 #2106

Thanks for the guide!
The 4ner
aka newbitcoinqtuser
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 602
Merit: 500


R.I.P Silk Road 1.0


View Profile
April 06, 2013, 07:06:01 PM
 #2107

Will this process work on a Mac OS X 64bit running Lion?
What about using a Virtual OS with VirtualBox? We can download and install the client on there and only be able to access it through the use of Virtual Box. Furthermore we could download and install TrueCrypt on the Virtual OS and encrypt and save the wallet on a usb drive. Or am I wrong.

Has anyone tried something similar to this?
I notice that most tutorials are for Windows or Linux users so I'd like to know if there's anyone that can help me secure my file on a Mac. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Virtual Box and a mounted truecrypt volume is not safe enough, because worms are able to collect your wallet when you are using it. Fully separated system provides better security.

Yeah I understand now. I see the big picture. But can Ubuntu be saved on a USB and booted on a Mac? If not, is there any way of doing something similar?
neotenie
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 45
Merit: 3


View Profile
April 06, 2013, 07:53:01 PM
 #2108

Does it make sense to install a bitcoin client (mac) on another user, that would only be opened when needed?
Thanks.
The 4ner
aka newbitcoinqtuser
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 602
Merit: 500


R.I.P Silk Road 1.0


View Profile
April 06, 2013, 08:14:12 PM
 #2109

Good starting guide for the newcomers!

Is this same procedure possible for lite coin and other crypto-currency wallets?

Great question! I'd like to know the answer to that too.
change
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 24
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 06, 2013, 08:24:05 PM
 #2110

Thanks for this, this will help in the long run.
neotenie
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 45
Merit: 3


View Profile
April 06, 2013, 08:53:28 PM
 #2111

Hi dear people.

I read that post and wanted to try.

Downloaded Ubuntu and burned it on a RW DVD.

I started the computer new and didn't know if I have to install the Ubuntu system or try it from the DVD.
If I install the system, where will it be installed? On the DVD itself?

Thanks for your answer!
Neo
Hieroglyphic
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 07, 2013, 12:26:02 AM
 #2112

Thanks for the info!
nobbynobbynoob
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 784
Merit: 1000


Annuit cœptis humanae libertas


View Profile WWW
April 07, 2013, 12:27:43 AM
 #2113

Good starting guide for the newcomers!

Is this same procedure possible for lite coin and other crypto-currency wallets?

Yes. Especially with litecoin, many of the bitcoin tools are replicated, e.g. liteaddress.org in lieu of bitaddress.org.

Earn Free Bitcoins!   Earn bitcoin via BitcoinGet
BTC tip: 1PKkvuwC24Vqjv9odigXs1QVzE66jEJqmb (if <200 µBTC, please donate to charity)
LTC tip: LRqXaNdF79QHvhPpS5AZdEJZnLiNnAkJvq (if <Ł0,05, please donate to charity)
BluesBrother
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 28
Merit: 0



View Profile
April 07, 2013, 01:53:55 AM
 #2114

nice reed and funny to bootCheesy

I see what you did there!

I thought about doing it with a distro but not having two accounts and not having to change constantly.
Thanks Smiley
I'll send a lil something if I open up one.
rachelcox99
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 17
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 07, 2013, 09:21:12 AM
 #2115

Thank you for the info.
jonbi
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 6
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 07, 2013, 09:59:08 AM
 #2116

Essential guide for newbies, thanks a lot!!
Primrose
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 75
Merit: 10


View Profile
April 07, 2013, 11:34:57 AM
 #2117


Pretty simple, create a secure wallet using the tutorial at the start of this topic. This should be your savings account. (you never want this file on a networked computer) (this is also the account with the big amount of money you have, preferably multiple sharing this amount (so if you happen to accidentally lose one, you don't lose all your money))

The wallet on your laptop you can use as your "spending account".

The simplest way to put it is, any wallet you have an a networked computer or at some service, you should handle like your real wallet. (don't put all your money in it, etc. accept risk of loss / stolen)
Besides those you should create a very secure wallet (not networked, preferably offline/paper) which would be the same as your savings account (hence put it in a big bank vault or something) (protect these wallets, which at some point might contain a lot of money, like your life-savings account, and think what you would do to protect your life-savings account.)

Personally, I have 500 saving account addresses, 50% of these is hard-copy paper. Stored at several locations. (bank safety-deposit boxes are great, as they are also fire resistant, and you can put all those papers in there, if you encrypt it, they will still need a pass-phrase to get to the BTC's) The other 50% is on USB / Flash drives, bought specifically for this purpose, which have not been used for anything else. These are also stored in vaults on hard to get locations, spread out. Every single address, I can get to in at least 3 different locations, so technically I shouldn't be able to lose my private keys.

The only problem is, due to the nature of BTC you preferably only want to use an address once. (to keep anonymity up) So after 500 txns I run out of addresses, and I have to visit all my backup locations again to update their backups. (with extra newly generated addresses)

You can take this up any scale you want... or down if you like. Though looking at that the fact that a BTC is currently 100 euros... Hackers are going to try more often to steal bitcoins, and the only way to really protect from a hacker, is making sure the data is not networked in any way. (aka offline) So the better sense of security you have now, the less amount of surprises you'll see in the future. (you other wise might find out at some point... that one of your accounts is empty... while you didn't spend any.)

Hi Mylon

Thanks ever so much for your helpful post.
Hope you don't mind, but I have more questions, as I am in the learning stage.
I put the questions in bold as they are scattered throughout the post and it will make them easier to see, cos I can see how busy these boards are.

I bought a USB drive yesterday, and I plan to make a wallet on it by following the instructions above.
I have windows 7 on my laptop. In the instructions above, are you suggesting that I make the USB drive wallet out of an operating system other than windows?
Does this USB wallet count as offline?
What do you mean by savings account?
As Bitcoins are so expensive is it ok to only buy one and put half of that coin in one wallet and half in the other?
Am I right in saying, that as my laptop is only ever used by me, it is NOT classed as a netoworked computer?

In the context of amounts, what does 'multiple sharing' mean please?
For the 'very secure' wallet, would I print both wallets out? i.e. The windows one on my laptop and the ubuntu one on my usb drive?

I am going to need to learn a lot more about addresses and keys because I am having a real struggle with them. Is it like this - For each transaction, you need a public address key, and a private one, which matches the public one?

Am I right in hurrying to buy bitcoins as they seem to be going up all the time?

I hope you don't mind the extra questions Mylon, you have been very helpful.

Thanks again

YUSOAWESOMe
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 36
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 07, 2013, 11:58:28 AM
 #2118

Though I wonder how someone can be raped from his/her wallet, you will have to know if the person even HAS a wallet/mines bitcoin etc.
But ofcource, prevention is better then all your coins to the moon...
winterduitser
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 5
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 07, 2013, 02:51:13 PM
 #2119

Interesting strategy thanks for posting and insulting Smiley
rbbrdckybk
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 63
Merit: 10


View Profile
April 07, 2013, 03:12:44 PM
 #2120

Thanks for the guide, this is exactly the info I was looking for.

YinCoin YangCoin ☯☯First Ever POS/POW Alternator! Multipool! ☯ ☯ http://yinyangpool.com/ 
Free Distribution! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623937
Bwincoin - 100% Free POS. BC1BgMbaHFWArSHxTCNjTTFCeWt2pD9LRU
Pages: « 1 ... 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 [106] 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!