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January 01, 2017, 10:57:35 AM
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At luck games with -EV, you can not win longtherm. Always when you play with -EV, it was luck if you won after a larger number of bets.

If you are a good poker player, you can win longtherm = play with +EV and therefore Poker is definetely a skill game and this totally independent of contradictory court decisions.

If you like to play at betcoin.ag, you would also like to play on skins at the Winning Poker Network (WPN), with an unlike larger cash game and Sit&Go traffic. You will have also the same tournament selection, as betcoin.ag joins the WPN tournaments thru the Winning Tournament Network (WTN).



Exactly, we play poker against weak players= we have +EV. It is the important way to make money if we choose correct gambling games, aka poker. I like poker because it is the game which has no house edge, we jist need to pay rake to the house, it is better than house edge casino games

Is there any way we can know whether a player is experienced or not in online poker games? If I'm not wrong, we will come to know only when we play the game right? If this question answer is yes then I can say we need some luck to win this game. Otherwise, we may lose money here as well. I don't have knowledge about this game.


Check www.sharkscope.com for player statistics, they have huge database for lots of poker sites, and it's one way to see whether player is experienced or not. If you are newbie in poker as you say, i recommend that you check this site also: https://www.pokerstrategy.com, they have useful information and tutorials how to play poker with strategies and all kind of things for new players. Every site has freeroll tournaments so you can play poker for free every day without losing money.
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January 01, 2017, 12:16:07 PM
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i prefer the actual game of poker face to face with my friends.


They had or have webcam poker sites where you can get a inbetween version of live/online: https://uk.888poker.com/poker-games/webcam/ Not sure there are any BTC option though and i dont know if these games even still run was a few years back i heard about it.


Interesting concept, first time I saw and try that on 888, but they don`t accept bitcoins, and for registration there you need to send them picture of ID, credit card, both documents from front and back.


i want to ask to op
is experience play in betcoin.ag
in there support play , player vs player or not, this mean tournamen player, not player vs machine


I have experience in poker generally, and there is tournaments on betcoin.ag, and you can play cash table 1 vs 1, what ever you like more. 1 vs 1 is not so easy to play, there is a lot lying, and pushing. 1 vs 1 is similar with end of the tournament, where blinds are high and there is someone who rise all in almost every hand. No matter how experienced player you are, or skilled, in this moments you wait for strong hand ( pair of aces or ace and king) but there is always someone who call with pair of fours and he got one on the flop. I think its very hard to win tournament just with skill.


So you created new endless discussion?  Grin

betcoin.ag has lots of scam accusation and it is highly red trusted.

I didn`t create new endless discussion, someone else did that long time ago. And here no one pay attention on text. Even you ignored my words and started to wrote you opinion about it. People like to wrote here what is easier for them to make some money from campaign.
How come nobody answers my questions but everyone talks about other things.

Is anyone here actually play poker? Tonight at betcoin.ag is nice 250 GTD THANK YOU tournament for people with tickets, will anyone from here be there?

PS: Scam accusation is cause of slots, and some jackpots. I don`t wish to talk about it here, lets talk about poker. Not about is it skill or luck based game, about poker. Can you people understand that?



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January 01, 2017, 05:21:04 PM
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At luck games with -EV, you can not win longtherm. Always when you play with -EV, it was luck if you won after a larger number of bets.

If you are a good poker player, you can win longtherm = play with +EV and therefore Poker is definetely a skill game and this totally independent of contradictory court decisions.

If you like to play at betcoin.ag, you would also like to play on skins at the Winning Poker Network (WPN), with an unlike larger cash game and Sit&Go traffic. You will have also the same tournament selection, as betcoin.ag joins the WPN tournaments thru the Winning Tournament Network (WTN).



Exactly, we play poker against weak players= we have +EV. It is the important way to make money if we choose correct gambling games, aka poker. I like poker because it is the game which has no house edge, we jist need to pay rake to the house, it is better than house edge casino games

Is there any way we can know whether a player is experienced or not in online poker games? If I'm not wrong, we will come to know only when we play the game right? If this question answer is yes then I can say we need some luck to win this game. Otherwise, we may lose money here as well. I don't have knowledge about this game.


Check www.sharkscope.com for player statistics, they have huge database for lots of poker sites, and it's one way to see whether player is experienced or not. If you are newbie in poker as you say, i recommend that you check this site also: https://www.pokerstrategy.com, they have useful information and tutorials how to play poker with strategies and all kind of things for new players. Every site has freeroll tournaments so you can play poker for free every day without losing money.
thank you for sharing this to us mate, as i also wanted to learn some info about how this game works as i see more and more people who's engage with this game and watching some videos from youtube really giving me some interest, with the site you shared i can learn basic to pro ways on how to get some edge.

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January 01, 2017, 05:57:19 PM
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Of course poker is a game of skill, because you can win with bad cards too, why? Because you can make a bluff, and take all wines,) of course you can win via bluff when your partner in the game is without skills

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January 01, 2017, 10:12:26 PM
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Of course poker is a game of skill, because you can win with bad cards too, why? Because you can make a bluff, and take all wines,) of course you can win via bluff when your partner in the game is without skills

You can cheat many games though which are -ev and win.  Counting cards or match fixing, Its a whole different bracket.  Look at the guy who took primedice for 2k BTC was it?

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January 01, 2017, 10:25:45 PM
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Of course poker is a game of skill, because you can win with bad cards too, why? Because you can make a bluff, and take all wines,) of course you can win via bluff when your partner in the game is without skills

Definitely it is a game of skill but at the end during crucial moments where both player were evenly skilled, luck play the part.  If you carefully watch bad beat clip of poker, this definitely point that luck still plays the part in poker games.  Because it all depends on the next cards and not on the skill of a person.

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January 02, 2017, 02:07:15 PM
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Well I can say that poker is one of my favorite gambling games. There was a time when I've spent hours playing with friends both at home and at local casinos. For me, it's more on skill and experience than luck. Of course luck can bail you out sometimes, and in most gambling games, it's mostly what you'll need. But with poker, being able to read your opponent's reaction, being able to know how to play your card, when to bluff and when to call a raise and when to up the bet takes skill that you can get through experience is playing for a long time. It's no coincidence that we can see the same faces during major poker tournaments. They're not relying on luck but they've developed techniques to maximize any advantage presented to them. And for me this is what makes poker the best gambling game out there.

 
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January 02, 2017, 02:26:13 PM
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I played poker on Betcoin the other day. Together with betting on sports, poker is my favorite gambling game. The only thing I don't like about online poker is not being able to see others while playing: it makes so much difference to understand how our opponents behave. In online poker is harder to get the picture of our fellow players but usually during a long game is quite easy to understand how they play.
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January 02, 2017, 03:54:17 PM
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Of course poker is a game of skill, because you can win with bad cards too, why? Because you can make a bluff, and take all wines,) of course you can win via bluff when your partner in the game is without skills

You can cheat many games though which are -ev and win.  Counting cards or match fixing, Its a whole different bracket.  Look at the guy who took primedice for 2k BTC was it?

This is biggest problem in online poker, you don't know who are you playing against. When you join full table, you don't know are you playing against, one player with multi accounts or you are playing against well organized group of players. That's why i like to play big tournaments with lots of players in them, its less likely someone will trick you.
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Of course poker is a game of skill, because you can win with bad cards too, why? Because you can make a bluff, and take all wines,) of course you can win via bluff when your partner in the game is without skills

You can cheat many games though which are -ev and win.  Counting cards or match fixing, Its a whole different bracket.  Look at the guy who took primedice for 2k BTC was it?

This is biggest problem in online poker, you don't know who are you playing against. When you join full table, you don't know are you playing against, one player with multi accounts or you are playing against well organized group of players. That's why i like to play big tournaments with lots of players in them, its less likely someone will trick you.

Yeah its possible, i got a rebate before on pokerstars due to cheating was found against me, i had no idea.  Saying that i think if you game select smart its the least of your concerns vs actually playing a winning game.  You can always pick tourny, heads up, zoom (not sure any btc options).

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January 21, 2017, 09:16:00 PM
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Is anyone from there playing poker on betcoin.age?
I just finished satellite 1 step, I finished tournament on 6 place. I had over 10 k, and was all in with pair of 10s, chip leader paid with ace and lady and he got ace on a river, bad luck.
Tomorrow I'm playing step 2? Is anyone from here playing too?



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January 21, 2017, 11:16:57 PM
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Of course poker is a game of skill, because you can win with bad cards too, why? Because you can make a bluff, and take all wines,) of course you can win via bluff when your partner in the game is without skills

I guess it is a mixture of both.  It is a game of skill but at the end it is a chance if your skill will pay off  because the game is decided by the last draw of the card.  Though I can say it is very entertaining to see players faking and bluffing and the reactions of their opponent.
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January 22, 2017, 04:30:53 AM
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black jack and poker is casino game use skill
but all playing card is use skill
is big effect use skill if player vs player, but player vs machine still get effect but small effect, not big effect
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January 22, 2017, 04:38:49 AM
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Hard to play when it is online. You cant read the eyes of those you are playing with. So it is really different with real time poker. Tournaments will be better for the table would be full. So your way to win could be by reading the number of cards that will come out. But it will be really difficult also

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January 22, 2017, 08:20:32 AM
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Poker is 100% a game based on skill.

Losing hands can win the game by outplaying the opponent. This is not possible in chance based games.
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January 22, 2017, 08:28:34 AM
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Hard to play when it is online. You cant read the eyes of those you are playing with. So it is really different with real time poker. Tournaments will be better for the table would be full. So your way to win could be by reading the number of cards that will come out. But it will be really difficult also
Just because of this we call now its game of skill and luck both because playing online you have no too many options to show skill so you need some luck also if we playing in any casino then most probably skill works but as you playing online you need luck and skills both
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January 22, 2017, 11:50:38 AM
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Hard to play when it is online. You cant read the eyes of those you are playing with. So it is really different with real time poker. Tournaments will be better for the table would be full. So your way to win could be by reading the number of cards that will come out. But it will be really difficult also
Just because of this we call now its game of skill and luck both because playing online you have no too many options to show skill so you need some luck also if we playing in any casino then most probably skill works but as you playing online you need luck and skills both

Well this basically tells us that poker still is best played with live opponents as, with what both of you said, it would be difficult to read your opponrnt's expression which is what adds to poker's excitement. And i also agree that luck plays more part when you play online and it is also prone to manipulation. So for mr as someone who prefer poker among most kinds of gambling, i think playing it with rral people still is the way to do it.


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January 22, 2017, 12:54:53 PM
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Poker is 100% a game based on skill.

Losing hands can win the game by outplaying the opponent. This is not possible in chance based games.

No it is not 100% skill based game, you still need luck to win on poker. No matter how great you are in poker but luck is still involved on this game, otherwise all experienced players will never lost any single cents and newbie will never want to try this game.

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January 29, 2017, 12:18:24 PM
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Nobody answered on my question, who play poker and who is active poker player here? Except comments discussion about is it poker luck or skill based game you didn`t give me the answer I wanted.
Last time I passed Betcoin Daily Coin Satellite - Step 1/3 and 2/3 but like always in step 3/3 I lose, looks like after first two steps I lose concentration. I have new ticket for step 1/3 so I will try again tomorrow.
Tonight is 250 GTD Weekly THANK YOU Freeroll, who will play this very nice tournament? Prizes are good, it`s nice cause there is never more then 15 players, no re-buys, poker for skilled players in my opinion. Until now I had second places, third places and above. Tonight I have some plans but if not this night then next sunday I will try to take first place. Good luck to all poker players!



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January 29, 2017, 12:24:34 PM
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It depends on you when I first started playing poker I thought it would be all luck and just play blindly, but later I started adding numbers, making strategies. I think you should make some good strategies and stick to them, you are trying to do a lot and vary a lot. One important thing is just keep your mind set and trust your cards. Wish you all the very best and hopefully you win tonight.
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