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April 11, 2013, 08:14:54 PM
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I am not a fan of Gox. Don't trust it, read too many bad things... so, what options are there? Please help me out, I will update the OP to be an up to date reference. If you know more about any of these sites or can explain better, post and I will try to keep the OP as accurate as possible.

**I am personally trying to buy some more bitcoins on our current discount sale, if there is a way to do so with Ca$h or credit, or instantly with a bank wire please let me know. I would rather not wait 3-4 days for my money to be available.


BTCTC Site .............how you can fund your account

Bitinstant   Currently allowing funds to MtGox or to a wallet, doesn't allow to wallet if gox is down
                      **When gox was down, will only send funds to a MTGOX account
                      (so they must send btc out of a gox account)
BTC-E     HAS  VISA & PAYPAL LOGO, can you fund with these? if so I don't see an option to do so.
                  BTC-E Codes (can you get these instantly for cash anywhere?)  
                 OKPAY ** (which doesn't accept USD)
                Bitinstant (which will only send funds to MTGOX)
               interkassa- not in English. I have a google translated page up, but haven't fine tooth combed it,
               ???anyone familiar with interkassa?
               Do they take USD, or credit cards as payment?
               Do they send bitstamp codes?

BitStamp Needs to be funded by bitstamp code

Vircurex funded through vouchX which is through AurumXchange  

Aurum Exchange-  you can't wire funds until account is verified  (I will update with how long my verification takes)

bitcoin-24.com - SEPA Bank wire (1-2 days)

localbitcoins.com


Bitfloor           takes cash deposits at Bank of America branches (in theory, I cant get their site open)

Money transfer Sites


Dwolla-    Can wire funds with verified account, takes 3-4 days (in writing, not confirmed yet)


Interkassa- not in English. I have a google translated page up, but page is not english.
                    Anyone know the deal?
               I am not comfortable making a financial transaction in a language I don't know, so this is out for me.


Aurum Exchange-  you can't wire funds until account is verified  (I will update with how long my verification takes)

** Is there anywhere that you can buy bitcoin or codes/vouchers with paypal or visa?

** What main sites am I missing? (I know there are a bunch)



Feel free to add, correct etc.....I will update

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April 11, 2013, 08:29:41 PM
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Localbitcoins.com

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April 11, 2013, 08:33:55 PM
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Can I use MTGOX to move currency somewhere else to buy bitcoin and litecoin?


as in Bitinstant > MtGox> BTC-E   

will gox send a voucher or a code.... or can gox send USD to another of these sites?

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April 11, 2013, 08:38:49 PM
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Localbitcoins.com

good to know, how do you pay? In person?




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April 11, 2013, 08:40:09 PM
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bitcoin-24.com - SEPA Bank wire (1-2 days)

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April 11, 2013, 08:44:55 PM
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bitcoin-24.com - SEPA Bank wire (1-2 days)

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April 11, 2013, 09:12:02 PM
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The rather fucking annoying conclusion that I am coming to is that there is absolutely no fucking way to buy Bitcoins without already having money in an online bitcoin trading account and there is no way to fund an account in less than 3-4 days....rrrrrggh

If someone is able to explain an option that I am not aware of that is working now it would make me really happy. If it works I will send you a tip.

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April 11, 2013, 09:06:55 PM
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The rather fucking annoying conclusion that I am coming to is that there is absolutely no fucking way to buy Bitcoins without already having money in an online bitcoin trading account and there is no way to fund an account in less than 3-4 days....rrrrrggh

If someone is able to explain an option that I am not aware of that is working now it would make me really happy. If it works I will send you a tip.

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April 11, 2013, 09:18:31 PM
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The rather fucking annoying conclusion that I am coming to is that there is absolutely no fucking way to buy Bitcoins without already having money in an online bitcoin trading account and there is no way to fund an account in less than 3-4 days....rrrrrggh
Sometimes you can do it. On good days, Bitinstant can get dollars into your Mt Gox account, and LocalTill can get dollars into your Bitfloor account within about half an hour.

Unfortunately "good days" means the days in which demand is low, also known as "only on the days you don't desperately want to add dollars to your trading account right away".
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April 11, 2013, 09:38:29 PM
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The rather fucking annoying conclusion that I am coming to is that there is absolutely no fucking way to buy Bitcoins without already having money in an online bitcoin trading account and there is no way to fund an account in less than 3-4 days....rrrrrggh
Sometimes you can do it. On good days, Bitinstant can get dollars into your Mt Gox account, and LocalTill can get dollars into your Bitfloor account within about half an hour.

Unfortunately "good days" means the days in which demand is low, also known as "only on the days you don't desperately want to add dollars to your trading account right away".

Today just ins't a good day then.


Icing on the cake- MtGox froze my account for (failed login attempts)

I hate Gox. I hate it even more that it seems like we are being forced to do business there.
The MTGox monopoly has to go, it is against what Bitcoin stands for....

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April 11, 2013, 10:13:30 PM
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FYI... BitInstant allows depositing directly to a bitcoin address.  You don't have to deposit into gox.

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April 11, 2013, 10:21:44 PM
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FYI... BitInstant allows depositing directly to a bitcoin address.  You don't have to deposit into gox.


It doesn't allow that option currently. Check it out.  When you go into the "pay to" box the ONLY option is MtGox

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April 11, 2013, 10:33:05 PM
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FYI... BitInstant allows depositing directly to a bitcoin address.  You don't have to deposit into gox.


It doesn't allow that option currently. Check it out.  When you go into the "pay to" box the ONLY option is MtGox
Dafuq?

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It isn't even clear that the drop down is 'dropped' but it is.

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April 11, 2013, 10:36:19 PM
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I was wondering the same thing about BitInstant. WTF is up with the constant changing of what they can/can't or will/won't fund to?

Earlier today, it was MTGOX only.
Then there was an option for Bitcoin Address
Now it's back to MTGOX only.

What's up with that?

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April 11, 2013, 10:43:39 PM
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BTC-E     HAS  VISA & PAYPAL LOGO, can you fund with these? if so I don't see an option to do so.
You can deposit to btc-e using your credit card by using the liqpay website/app. I heard that it usually only takes a few hours.

bitcoin-24.com - SEPA Bank wire (1-2 days)
From their website: "With giropay you can instantly deposit from most banks in Germany Your deposit will be instantly available for trade on Bitcoin-24."

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April 11, 2013, 10:48:07 PM
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it is BULLSHIT. 

I snuck an order in yesterday but definitely didn't get it timed the way I wanted to get the price I wanted because I had to sit at my fucking computer refreshing for over an hour before a miraculous window of opportunity opened up to get some coins.

I am pissed at Bitinstant right now.  Spent a LOT of time researching other ways to fund BTC purchases.  I am not thrilled with the idea of having cash sitting in an account, especially with all the stories of gox and btw-e getting hacked... hence the appeal to BitInstant, especially when prices where going up so fast that it was worth getting fucked on the fees since it was better than waiting a week and getting coins at 2-3x the price.

Now it looks like I need to leave money somewhere. I am thinking btc-e since I like their trading options for litecoin and terra. Fuck Gox. I don't like the forced monopoly that has been created and Bitinstant forcing you to send money to gox as the only option to buy is FUCKING BULLSHIT.


Anyway, I'll stop venting, as I would like this thread to serve as a resource to people looking to buy.

Hit me with info people. Where else can you buy, what are the methods? Maybe this can become a sticky but at least it could be a great resource for people to save them from having to research 15 websites.

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April 11, 2013, 10:48:17 PM
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I was wondering the same thing about BitInstant. WTF is up with the constant changing of what they can/can't or will/won't fund to?

Earlier today, it was MTGOX only.
Then there was an option for Bitcoin Address
Now it's back to MTGOX only.

What's up with that?

If it went to right to Bitcoin Address, then how would know what exchange rate you are getting?  They probably don't want to do this at the moment with the price being so volatile.
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April 11, 2013, 10:49:16 PM
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I guess OTC or buying local seem like the only really viable options to get btc quick.

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April 11, 2013, 10:53:51 PM
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If it went to right to Bitcoin Address, then how would know what exchange rate you are getting?  They probably don't want to do this at the moment with the price being so volatile.
This seams reasonable...

I also had another thought... if their (fiat) funds are in gox and they just do a market sell and send to address via the API then gox closing would also kill that option.

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April 12, 2013, 12:04:11 AM
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i have a blockchain.info wallet. it allows me to use bitinstant > mtgox > blockchain wallet. But mtgox and bit instant are down right now. i wouldnt want to use them to buy anyway cause their spot price is $124, while btc-e, bitstamp, and bitmit are $60.
You can always buy coinage on ebay for twice the price of spot.
Btc-e says they accept paypal buy i cant get it to work
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