XLTH LITHIUM is a SCAM !!!|"Dev" keeps digging his hole deeper with his replies|

[JimmyRecard]

Since Triswardhani thinks people aren't smart when it comes to Crypto then please have your say on the information gathered on the subject which goes deterred, unanswered properly and shrugged off by himself while calling others Trolls who asks "Genuine Questions"

Would you invest into an ICO where the "Dev" says nothing of the sorts about a WhitePaper & Source release although expects users to trust his/their Programs just because he/they "Delivered on Time" when in fact this Project has been pushed back numerous times with certain things....?

And still there is NO Source yet, look at the explanation that the Dev gives as to why yet also said Exchanges won't be able to implement the coin "Yet until he has finished the construction" in his earlier postings.....

You be the Judge....

someone manage to send from my web wallet to this address LRp0fMCypCYMvFikzmeqBMsUEhdsYasp2S all my coin i have earned with twitter bounties and the free coin bounties total 474 coin . Just be carefull guys the web wallet is not secure !

I investigated and found the wallet the coins were sent to and luckily it's the web wallet and they didn't use the windows client. Consequently, I have locked that persons account until we know what happened.


I will try to email the other person and see if he responds, cause I have to be impartial and don't trust neither of you. I can't know for sure you didn't send him the coins and now you want to 'chargeback' him.

If he doesn't respond I will recover the coins for you.

Dont need dev to recover! You are such honest and great person! And your project is doing well! and for sure i will invest in your coin! Did open my ico account today to make deposit!

Hey man, the person who moved your coins contacted me. Long story short, he found a bug in the new version of the wallet which enabled him to enter your account and he moved the coins to prove it but I he didn't intend to do wrong.

I have quickly resolved the vulnerability in the wallet and soon will send your coins back.

I think know what happened... PM

Jimmy's interesting analysis thinks this is an inside job, the so called Bitcointalk Account responsible was just created along with an error in your reply with who your were talking about as follows:

"he moved the coins to prove it but I he didn't intend to do wrong." Who is I HE ? Why were you referring to "him not intending to do wrong" and then also have "I didn't intend to do wrong"..... very suspicious.

I and H cannon't be mistakenly pressed on a PC Keyboard or Keyboard for phones.... reinforcing my observations of your past usage of words and sentences.... very peculiar, studies have shown that when people are typing something out or writing something, what they are typing/writing is actually the voice in their head speaking the information so mistaking I and He for "Somebody" who is not intending to do any harm when telling your version I He sounds to me like the same person that slipped up....

There is also the fact that they are building their own "Exchange" platform solely for XLTH/BTC.... what, wait, where is the source ? Why don't you want qualified people to verify your codes integrity ? Why not let them look over your source privately ? Jimmy thinks that the reason to make your own exchange is because "Normal" Exchanges won't list this kind of coin without a verifiable source, that's how it works....

This XLTH coin actually looks like you ripped a www.cryptocoincreator.com coin off & are using the same source that makes them coins but on your own website and renaming a whole heap of things to suit your currency.... This might be the next best ICO scam to be pulled off... give people free useless coins and gain their attention + support, then offer more coins then what is available freely when the ICO starts to initial investors creating a false sense of assurance getting people talking about their "unique" investment....

Jimmy will see what happens after it has all finished with still no source available

Dude calm down you created a whole conspiracy theory over there from a single spelling mistake.

1) When I said "but I he didn't intend to do wrong." i was trying to say " but I think he did't intend to do wrong" but I was writing very quickly and forgot the word "think".

2) I have around 27-28 Million Lithium in my wallet for the ico and distribution so you saying I moved around 470 coins from another user for an "inside job" just doesn't makes sense, why would I want to move such a little amount.

3) We are building an Exchange because the client doesn't have JSON-RPC implemented and that is the protocol all the exchanges use to include coins in their platforms, but it will take time to implement it, so a custom Exchange is faster to develop cause we have the code almost finished.


This is what happend:

- A few hours ago I uploaded a new version of the Web Wallet to fix the login issues people were having.
-davide72 contacted me saying he lost 470 coins from his wallet
-Then a user by the name of "Sam123" contacted me and told me about he vulnerability he found in the web wallet.
- I quickly fixed the problem and thanked him

That's all and here is an screencap of his message




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Jimmy still can't believe that you do not acknowledge the need to release the source code privately for verification or publicly, you also dodged all mentions of the source in my "Conspiracy Theory" but had a very long reasoning for why this happened.....  

Jimmy has a feeling you are making sure that you can access users web wallets accounts from your side since if and when you get your own exchange up and running for XLTH/BTC pairing you can "Hack" the ICO purchasers XLTH accounts and then sell onto users who deposit BTC onto your so called "WebExchange" this is after you use whatever funds you get from the ICO to pump it initially on your exchange then slowly sell your own coins, remember they are not "Yours" they are the ICO investors coins so if no one else invests or you don't reach your said target you are meant to destroy forever the remaining coins not distributed with Live & Public Proof considering this is a "New Project and New Source" which is yet to be shown, I can't believe people are using a Windows wallet that hasn't been verified by source either..... we all know what happens there

Another Conspiracy Theory ? The Public can be the judge of that but this is just another obvious moving adaption to your replies...... Better think carefully next time or you could keep digging your hole bigger

King of the Cards, King of the Castle also known to be King of the Barstool

Dude nothing of what you are saying makes sense and I know you are just a troll and I shouldn't feed you so this is my last reply to you.

Exchanges are centralized platforms unfortunately and decentralized are difficult to code. Then, when release the Exchange, why would we need to "hack" everyone's coins from the Web Wallet if everyone is putting them in the Exchange's wallet that we control. That's a risk with all exchanges, so if you don't trust ours and have fears over us holding your coins, then just deposit a small amount and sell/buy then withdraw and repeat.

Also, the exchange beta will be released in less than 2 days, but you will not be able to deposit funds. You will only be able to trade fake tokens to test the platform.

You will be able to deposit Lithium when the ICO ends and all the coins are sold, so the price can trade freely without us affecting it with the ICO price.

Finally, we have proven we are not scam by keeping all our promises, releasing everything we promise on time, sending free coins and we work everyday to improve this coin and the community. And we will keep doing it.

Kind regards

Everything I have said is what you will "Eventually do" and at the moment I don't believe many people are putting this app on their mobile devices they store personal & payment information on without a VERIFICATION OF THE SOURCE CODE yet alone many if any at all using the Windows Wallet, Cryptocoin users know better then to install something that HASN'T BEEN VERIFIED BY SOURCE, that is how people get hacked !

It also doesn't matter if you said, she said, he said that the wallet came up clean in a Virus Scan..... There is ways to inject ratloaders in applications without giving a hit

AND AGAIN, Answer my mother fucking questions regarding RELEASING THE SOURCE CODE FOR REVIEW/VERIFICATION PRIVATELY OR PUBLICLY !

I used CAPS when mentioning the SOURCE CODE since you don't ever answer anybody's questions on the topic, Quicks go start editing your previous posts pages back to pretend you said something and quickly quote it here to prove me wrong

I look forward to your Reply..... Oh wait you said I'm just a troll and you won't reply to me anymore.... Yet what we are talking about rests on whether you are legitimate or not, there is many people who can Indeed verify Source code of Applications so don't be shy, go on give us a taste

I thought so ! You are always deterant of the questions when it comes to the SOURCE CODE, why not answer them and put all this nonsense to sleep if you are indeed legit

So many people other then me are also asking for the SOURCE CODE, WHITE PAPER, ETC yet you fail to even offer the bare minimum, you just say it does this, this and this with no proof..... Web wallet ? Windows wallet ? Android Wallet ? That still isn't proof that this is a unique project/coin or of being decentralized origin and legitimate, it's just like saying "Here look at this and use it though I won't show you how it was designed to run and I won't release the SOURCE CODE for you to compare the Whitepaper to SOURCE"

Get with the Program, Nobody Wants your Shitcoin fucker

Looks like the so called "Dev" is using his so called shills to hype up the coin and spam the thread with the same old nonsense of "It's a good coin"....  

Since you have not once answered any of my questions regarding the SOURCE CODE I will have to Label in BIG BOLD TEXT that this coin is indeed a SCAM !!!

If you get the SOURCE CODE privately or publicly verified by a well know coder on the Forums then I will remove the SCAM accusation, other than that it is sticking since you are ignoring the questions and only listening and answering what you want people to hear

Page after page you will see this (I'm not going away)  until you acknowledge the issue and provide PROOF

STAY AWAY FROM XLTH (LITHIUM) AS IT IS A SCAM !!! THE DEVELOPER WON'T RELEASE THE SOURCE CODE FOR PRIVATE OR PUBLIC REVIEW + HASN'T EXPLAINED HOW THE CONCEPT WORKS IN DETAIL WITH A WHITEPAPER, INVEST IF YOU WANT TO LOSE MONEY FOR A PROJECT WITH NO PROOF !!!

Get your tinfoil hats out guys! Trolls only deserve to be trolled

How is he a troll? All his questions are legit and you have been conveniently ignoring them. He asked you for a technical whitepaper which you did not provide, he asked you for the source code and it is nowhere to be found and finally you are anonymous. This ICO is a SCAM and you deserve to be called out. Now, instead of calling people trolls for asking legit questions, why don't you show your source code? does it not exist?

How is he a troll? All his questions are legit and you have been conveniently ignoring them. He asked you for a technical whitepaper which you did not provide, he asked you for the source code and it is nowhere to be found and finally you are anonymous. This ICO is a SCAM and you deserve to be called out. Now, instead of calling people trolls for asking legit questions, why don't you show your source code? does it not exist?

No, no, no. I think you didn't even read the conversation or you are a shill account. Either way, he accused me of stealing 470 XLTH which is just ridiculous. He also made other accusations that make no sense logically, and I explained why they don't make sense.
And about the source code, we were asked by various member of the community and I agreed that we wouldn't release the source code until the ICO is done to avoid clones. In the current state, cloning Lithium is pretty straight forward and any script kiddie could do it. I think it is for the best not to release the source code now to protect the investors. But I can tell you this, the project is very similar and inspired by Clarity but implemented in C# with proof of transaction and no fees. I haven't finished the Whitepaper but told everyone I would release it probably on the weekend because right now I am working on the exchange platform.

If have chosen to ignore this person for the following reasons: 1) The are ways to ask about stuff and being rude and insult me is not a way of  doing things 2) I explained my side but he wouldn't listen and keeps making conspiracy theories without facts

Until he stops acting like a 12 years old kid, insulting around, making accusations without proof, speaking in third person, he is just a troll to me.

Let's be adults and discuss things without insulting me and creating false accusations without proof. Let's negotiate things and not insult.

We have delivered everything we have promised so there is no reason to insult me.

If that is case, why not use escrow and release the funds once the source code and whitepaper is released and verified?

LMFAO I think I am getting dumber with every one of your replies to this I read

You go on about saying I accused you of stealing those 400 odd coins ? No in reality I was saying that you "Do" have the option to access everyones WebWallets as you even supposedly "barred" the hackers account and refunded (Which is most likely you, Also I see in the screenshot that you took with the "Hackers replies", well the replies look like you screen shotted the "Hackers" Bitcointalk message when you were logged into that account yourself if you look closely) , talk about centralized along with the fact that you have everyone who signed up for this SCAM's email address and Password, what is saying they didn't use the same ones as they have on Bitcointalk or Exchanges ? (I know most are not that dumb and use throwaways and random generate PW's)

You also say that "And about the source code, we were asked by various member of the community and I agreed that we wouldn't release the source code until the ICO is done to avoid clones"

What ? Where ? When wast this mentioned or even discussed ? Show Proof of this and you want to know what makes this even more unbelievable is that you even said the following yourself....

"3) We are building an Exchange because the client doesn't have JSON-RPC implemented and that is the protocol all the exchanges use to include coins in their platforms, but it will take time to implement it, so a custom Exchange is faster to develop cause we have the code almost finished."

WTF...... So even if there were clones they couldn't even get it listed on an Exchange due to nobody being able to do it except for you, that is why you are "supposedly developing it" for your own first..... That really doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever, looks to me that you keep on digging your hole deeper, also tuff chance on that Escrow, they might even hold a Hero or Legendary shill account that might entice people to trust them more if they agree

Look you are doing it again, not answering as usual I told you I would be back You can't get rid of me until you PROVIDE VALID PROOF, for all you know I could have stacks of BTC ready to invest in a New Project but here you are being an utter Delinquent.... How much have you made so far ? 2 maybe 3 BTC from ICO Investors ? hahahaha, For all you know I could buy up your whole ICO but why should I or anybody else that are Big Ballers if you don't offer us VALID PROOF.... all the new coins that have been released that have had ICO's and are Unique, etc have had their source code publicly verified unlike any of YOURS.

Stop spining shit and get with the Program, I and everyone else want WANT PROOF.

Good that you like to hide the truth, others have the option to see the PROOF OF YOUR SCAM, your just naive, another ignorant post from your so called leader and dev that you invested into..... SERIOUSLY FUCK YOU Triswardhani & Your Alts, I will link you all up because of this don't you worry, you and the rest of your shills will then be better known as MR. RED !

BTW There is also a SCAM thread in the Altcoin Discussion sub-section

[Thewolfofcrypto]

Why do you care so much? You either buy it or you don't, get over yourself.

[JimmyRecard]

Why do you care so much? You either buy it or you don't, get over yourself.

With no SOURCE ? ? ? You must be new to crypto 

[Thewolfofcrypto]

You must be joking, anyone who has been involved in crypto long enough knows exactly who I am 

[JimmyRecard]

Why do you care so much? You either buy it or you don't, get over yourself.

With no SOURCE ? ? ? You must be new to crypto 

You must be joking, anyone who has been involved in crypto long enough knows exactly who I am  

Oh yeah you are really the chop, screw and chewer wolf0... whatever be blind, use your power ? lol Everyone knows who I am, Fucking JIMMY !

[JimmyRecard]

You must be joking, anyone who has been involved in crypto long enough knows exactly who I am  

It also looks like you have been away for the last 2-3 years coming back spontaneously in between to post rubbish.... talk about a troll trying to troll a troll all for the fact cause you are butthurt about the Truth.... yeah buddy, jump on that Honda mower and "Gayyyyyyyy" right past everyone

BTW Trolling isn't always negative, trolling can also be the truth with proof so it isn't classified as trolling but preaching

[coin-investor]

This is done in a wrong section,you should know better,if you are going to open a scam accusations,there is a section for this why not create one with the right format like this,it makes your thread so ugly ..

[JimmyRecard]

This is done in a wrong section,you should know better,if you are going to open a scam accusations,there is a section for this why not create one with the right format like this,it makes your thread so ugly ..

This is a Discussion not an Accusation, though mentioning that this coin is PROBABLY A SCAM in the post due to the listed reasons is just another added bonus, look hard, look thorough and bloody read it instead of skimming, it's not that hard to follow, if you can't follow this then how the fuck can you trace people and their accounts

[BlockEye]

This is done in a wrong section,you should know better,if you are going to open a scam accusations,there is a section for this why not create one with the right format like this,it makes your thread so ugly ..

Yeah right. Better move it or else MODS will delete it. And please gather more concrete evidence before opening scam accusation. So that they will be still off guard and easy to accumulate proof from their project if your accusation is right. But i understand your point to warn possible investors.I also have doubt with their project. I will watch this thread and lithium ann thread.

[Thewolfofcrypto]

You must be joking, anyone who has been involved in crypto long enough knows exactly who I am  

It also looks like you have been away for the last 2-3 years coming back spontaneously in between to post rubbish.... talk about a troll trying to troll a troll all for the fact cause you are butthurt about the Truth.... yeah buddy, jump on that Honda mower and "Gayyyyyyyy" right past everyone

BTW Trolling isn't always negative, trolling can also be the truth with proof so it isn't classified as trolling but preaching

Your clearly a child 😂 Your account was made less than a month ago, you've missed the boat buddy - for the record, the amount of posts you have on a forum does not determine your activity within the community, exchanges like bittrex put trade limits on because of people like me.

[iHaveNoClue]

Well I think Lithium is a scam for the following reasons:

No Escrow
No Source code
No Technical White paper
Anonymous dev with an inactive account for two years only to reappear for the ICO

If the dev is willing to use an escrow and only release funds after the  source code and the technical white paper has been made public and verified, I will drop my scam accusations. When I asked these questions, the dev conveniently ignored mine and other posts which had similar concerns.

[kaltun]

i have webwallet also, but i still have my coins plus some extras. so no bells are ringing now:)

[vlom]

there is something fishy. soon after i registered for free coins - yes i know, there is nothing like free coins - i receive spam e-mails.

from: apple-fneuklonqeyeqstxlf@bitcoinmarket.su
from: wucrding-btfswpwlfqqk@bitcoinmarket.su [BitcoinMarket 10.000$ daily] WesternUnion | Bank Transfer
...

....

[iHaveNoClue]

i have webwallet also, but i still have my coins plus some extras. so no bells are ringing now:)

Free coins are easy to create. I can create a clone of LTC, call it someBullShitCoin and give you some free coins. Would you accept it if I do an ICO then?

[bravehearth0319]

This is done in a wrong section,you should know better,if you are going to open a scam accusations,there is a section for this why not create one with the right format like this,it makes your thread so ugly ..

Agreed, this kind of accusation I think its one of their strategy to make the price of lithium will goes down, And once it happen they will invest or buy more lithium. He's/she just giving the confusion of others of not participating in this campaign, but the fact of it, the project of lithium was definitely impressive and good actually..

[robelneo]

This is done in a wrong section,you should know better,if you are going to open a scam accusations,there is a section for this why not create one with the right format like this,it makes your thread so ugly ..

This is a Discussion not an Accusation, though mentioning that this coin is PROBABLY A SCAM in the post due to the listed reasons is just another added bonus, look hard, look thorough and bloody read it instead of skimming, it's not that hard to follow, if you can't follow this then how the fuck can you trace people and their accounts

You clearly stated in your title the word scam and yet you write this is a discussion about a coin that's a scam,no use defending your thread,respect this  section ,post it in the right section and post in the right format,you are so pissed as if you lose 100 bitcoin..

[Katewind]

Well I think Lithium is a scam for the following reasons:

No Escrow
No Source code
No Technical White paper
Anonymous dev with an inactive account for two years only to reappear for the ICO

If the dev is willing to use an escrow and only release funds after the  source code and the technical white paper has been made public and verified, I will drop my scam accusations. When I asked these questions, the dev conveniently ignored mine and other posts which had similar concerns.

on the first days of new year. I saw some scammed ICO project. They had started ICO launchings when bitcoin was rising up highly.
so I never join the altcoin ICO project at that time. it will be scammed .

[debtstack]

Is there some kind of lost in translation thing going on here? People throw around the word scam like it's a part of normal conversation. Using it so much it's losing all its meaning. I have received no spam from signing up, and I have been given coins on a daily basis. No problems from my end. As for the conspiracy theories about the white paper, etc, who gives a shit. Buy it or don't. Get free coins or don't. Are any of you even programmers? Complaining about a paper with jargon you don't even understand and complaining a dev won't release their code when you wouldn't understand it anyways.

Moral of the story, grow up and learn to take risks without someone holding your hand. Crying about it isn't helping anyone. I'm seeing more and more devs staying away from this place because they don't want to deal with the whining and trolling.

[Spoetnik]

People throw around the word FUD as though it has lost all meaning.

The OP does have a point here though.
As do the people telling him wrong section for this.
And the dev has had some good defense retorts. (his admitted spelling mistake(s) ?)
So i don't know.

Actually i do know.. ICO = SCAM.

What more do you need to know ?

[thebatletbet]

until now nothing investor buy lithium coin
if you  judge scam, you can get free coin with bounty

but what ever ico selling must use escrow, without escrow must becereful
lithium is not escrow all people must becareful before buy

no escrow don't buy ico selling is simple