Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin scam?

[cryptohunter]

I really fail to see how she is scamming anyone. She is being paid to advertise a product and everyone knows it. I am not a huge fan of alt-coins in general but do not see how dark/dash is any different than the rest of them. Some are pre-mined, some get insta-mined, some get ICOs...they are all the same...cash grabs.

Read the OP and all the contained links. If you believe all alts are anything like this then no wonder you are not a fan.

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[spartak_t]

Why anyone who's YouTube channel has less than 800k views and with less than 3k Twitter followers should matter? Hundreds of Dash per month? Not to mention she hasn't posted video or tweet for like 6-8 months now. That's a marketing failure here.

[pereira4]

I really fail to see how she is scamming anyone. She is being paid to advertise a product and everyone knows it. I am not a huge fan of alt-coins in general but do not see how dark/dash is any different than the rest of them. Some are pre-mined, some get insta-mined, some get ICOs...they are all the same...cash grabs.

I have no problems with Amanda B Johnson getting paid to promote products, in fact I think Dash is one of the few decent altcoin projects, my problem is when she started hating on bitcoin core and the blockstream developments, and then she started shilling bitcoin classic as a lot of people know. Getting paid to attack other projects is what I don't like, specially when it's crap like XT/Classic/BU or whatever is next.

[spartak_t]

I really fail to see how she is scamming anyone. She is being paid to advertise a product and everyone knows it. I am not a huge fan of alt-coins in general but do not see how dark/dash is any different than the rest of them. Some are pre-mined, some get insta-mined, some get ICOs...they are all the same...cash grabs.

I have no problems with Amanda B Johnson getting paid to promote products, in fact I think Dash is one of the few decent altcoin projects, my problem is when she started hating on bitcoin core and the blockstream developments, and then she started shilling bitcoin classic as a lot of people know. Getting paid to attack other projects is what I don't like, specially when it's crap like XT/Classic/BU or whatever is next.

Any link?

[iamnotback]

@iamnotback (last reply, i promise)

the fact that you keep calling my opinion "leftist" makes clear how your "limited intellect" actually stops you to get out of the box

i have to agree with you when you say "leftism results in megadeath every damn time throughout human history", this is damn right! every social structure that allows centralized power is doomed to fail.

we are here because we are fascinated by decentralization but we still make the same mistake and we are still the same humans that created the need for centralization.

this thread makes me sick!
the rampant and ignorant sexism together with limited personal views makes me think that we are still very far from a Change.
if you don't get what i mean i would not be surprised.

The term sexism is only uttered by a leftist. There are two axis on a typical political philosophy chart. You can be economically conservative and socially liberal (but this is lying because social liberalism destroys economic conservatism).

Stand back and let nature do its thing.

Sexism is natural because it is a fact that women and men are not equal. Statistically women are greater at what women do best and men are greater at what men do best. There are probably exceptions on an individual basis. If this damned fact offends you, then it isn't my fault that you are irrational.

Sexism doesn't mean I condone any violence against women. It just means I rationally don't try to lie to myself about damned facts. You prefer to lie to yourself. The common trait of a leftist is irrationality and lying.

It is a fact that women are going to use their assets just as men use their assets. This is nature. No amount of leftist bullshit is going to change nature.

So stop berating me for your own fucking ignorance and irrationality. You are so fucking arrogant which associates you with the other pinheads here who are below your apparent intellect. Maybe you can correct this deficiency if you can objectively read.

I actually love women more than you do, because I don't lie to them about the reality of nature. You leftists lie to them and destroy them. That is a statistical fact. (I make no claims about whether I have ever lied about anything, rather I am speaking to issue of lying to women about statistical equality of men and women, or even equality between any two people as no one is equal)

Japan has an existential crisis. The youth don't procreate. The economy is deflating.

DooMAD went to one of those sites that produces a political philosophy profile and I think this is a useful taxonomy. CoinCube would I guess be on the right, upper quadrant. Eric S Raymond would be closer to me I think.

The view of the world through the eyes of Anonymint:



The only "justifiable" standpoint in your view is at the very "right" of the chart from your (literally) skewed perspective.  Everyone and everything else is communist.  Your bitter tone implies frustration that the rest of the world doesn't share this perspective.  So you lash out at all the "leftists" even though you apparently mean to include people who would be viewed as right by those on the left.  The only ones who aren't "leftists" are the hardline libertarians.  The average person will never see it, but in your world Hitler and Gandhi are two peas in a pod.  Augusto Pinochet and the Dalai Lama are equally authoritarian.  They're all communists.  

Thank you. I think that chart is a reasonably accurate representation of my perspective. Thank for putting in the effort to make that.

I don't think it is accurate to say that I wouldn't praise some of the traits of those who are on the same side of either axis as myself, even though they are on the other side of the other axis from values. So while I might condone some of the social liberalism of Gandhi, I would disagree with the economic totalitarianism. Ditto while I admire some of Thatcher's views, I wouldn't agree with totalitarian restriction of social values. Having said that, I do admire some conservative social values, such as I think abortion and birth control are self-destructive on a statistical basis, but I am not going to join some religion which tries to control the freewill of people.

Note however, there is distinction between having these values and needing to interact in a society that for the most part doesn't share these values.

My values free me from needing to control what other people do on a societal level (might be different in my interpersonal relationships). Economic right means I accept the natural law will impact the outcome, so nothing I need to control. Ditto my interpretation of social liberalism is that we all reap what we sow. Abort your children, you'll likely end up in a life lacking meaning.

The social conservatism and liberalism axis seems to not capture accurate the distinction between those who lie and those are objective. Why is that? The liberals lie to women about equality. The conservatives lie about the diversity of strategies in nature.

[pereira4]

I really fail to see how she is scamming anyone. She is being paid to advertise a product and everyone knows it. I am not a huge fan of alt-coins in general but do not see how dark/dash is any different than the rest of them. Some are pre-mined, some get insta-mined, some get ICOs...they are all the same...cash grabs.

I have no problems with Amanda B Johnson getting paid to promote products, in fact I think Dash is one of the few decent altcoin projects, my problem is when she started hating on bitcoin core and the blockstream developments, and then she started shilling bitcoin classic as a lot of people know. Getting paid to attack other projects is what I don't like, specially when it's crap like XT/Classic/BU or whatever is next.

Any link?

Well maybe not explicitly, but look at the video history:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH81LffRYOk

She started making videos on Bitcoin Classic and ignoring all developments on Bitcoin Core. They ignored the big updates like when 0.13.0 was released, if it was not for the Andreas interview segwit would have never been mentioned... tons of Classic videos which was the opposition, also reported on Unlimited.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Sf7kcbDWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2pD68Kvnns

Blockstream FUD making it look as if all core devs are in Blockstream etc:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oowBF70HxM

Here full FUD begins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUFsNSpQsEU

BU shilling starts promising delusional ending of blocksize problem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsfRTpqoYzM

"age of altcoins begins"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJkh3b_ykTA

Then she stopped the channel and started promoting Dash fulltime... I dont know, seems clear to me.

It started as a good, neutral program that had good videos. But it's clear as that as the subscribers and ad revenue grew, the channel took a certain direction and that was to hate on Core+blockstream while shilling Classic, then Classic was a failure, so Bitcoin Unlimites shilling started and so on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH81LffRYOk

[iamnotback]

pereira4, women are easily influenced by what others tell them. That is why I said trying to accuse a women of not being totally rational is asinine. They by nature are more socially influenced than rationally influenced.

So perhaps her social circle was convincing her that Bitcoin was doomed or co-opted or what ever. Hey and I sort of believe that too to some extent although I haven't committed much time to try to research the thoughts. I just see Bitcoin as a clusterfuck of centralization. The devs probably think they are trying to do what is best.

The definition of scammer is becoming so broad that I think all of us are scammers. Humans leverage their situation to their advantage. That is nature.

What is this thread hoping to accomplish? Discredit Amanda and Dash? Who fucking  cares. It is a tiny microscopic zit of a marketcap and who has time to waste on such irrelevant crap.

I am a little bit interested in the marketing effect as a matter of interest in general in understanding our ecosystem demographics. But as for trying to discredit Amanda, that should be reserved for people have nothing to do with their life. I think someone wants to be self-important in a tiny microcasm.

Hey I did it in the past (discredit Dash). I guess it is a right of passage. The only thing I am motivated to do is to explain why Dash's technology sucks but in a white paper setting (not in endless debates on these forums). Because how can any one appreciate good technology if they don't know the difference. But as for what people choose to do with their funds and about individuals in those ecosystems, I am not interested in wasting my time being the altcoin police.

[spartak_t]

I really fail to see how she is scamming anyone. She is being paid to advertise a product and everyone knows it. I am not a huge fan of alt-coins in general but do not see how dark/dash is any different than the rest of them. Some are pre-mined, some get insta-mined, some get ICOs...they are all the same...cash grabs.

I have no problems with Amanda B Johnson getting paid to promote products, in fact I think Dash is one of the few decent altcoin projects, my problem is when she started hating on bitcoin core and the blockstream developments, and then she started shilling bitcoin classic as a lot of people know. Getting paid to attack other projects is what I don't like, specially when it's crap like XT/Classic/BU or whatever is next.

Any link?

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Oh my... this girl can be very annoying. Thanks for the info!

[spartak_t]

I am a little bit interested in the marketing effect as a matter of interest in general in understanding our ecosystem demographics.

There you go:



Making people laugh is probably the best way to get their attention. When having enough users as a base, you can then tell them there is something called digital currencies. Bad thing is that Facebook deleted our most viral video, which had about 9.5 million views and the page likes stopped. We were getting like 3-4k new page likes every day, but it seems we must wait until some other video (or whatever) becomes viral.

[iamnotback]

spartak_t I don't trust that FB metrics mean anything in terms of real outcomes.

Any real outcomes to report? E.g. sales, liquidity increases, etc.

[spartak_t]

spartak_t I don't trust that FB metrics mean anything in terms of real outcomes.

Any real outcomes to report? E.g. sales, liquidity increases, etc.

And you're right - so far this doesn't mean anything. The real outcomes can be reported probably in few months (5-8) as we're still not ready with the currency. Working with your own funds and without 5k BTC ICOs could be difficult.

[iamnotback]

"age of altcoins begins"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJkh3b_ykTA

Then she stopped the channel and started promoting Dash fulltime... I dont know, seems clear to me.

It started as a good, neutral program that had good videos. But it's clear as that as the subscribers and ad revenue grew, the channel took a certain direction and that was to hate on Core+blockstream while shilling Classic, then Classic was a failure, so Bitcoin Unlimites shilling started and so on.

She seems to be principled on decentralization and she is preferring to veer in the direction of what ever can avoid Bitcoin maximalization. That seems to be a philosophy and not a scam.

As for her affiliation with Dash, she perhaps realized that crypto-currency is doomed and she might as well cash in while she can. Seems highly rational to me.

Meanwhile someone like myself who threatens to actually offer a viable decentralization solution, is attacked by pinheads. Wonderful ecosystem we have here at BCT.

Love y'all. 

[spartak_t]

Btw someone mentioned women's beauty. Here's the new Miss Helsinki 2017 (Sephora Ikalaba):



Nice, eh? That "thing" is 19 years old!

[iamnotback]

The Finns are much darker these days. Must be global warming.

[Spoetnik]

@pereira4
I am impressed you tried to back up your mouth, good work.
I am leaning towards believing your assertion (even before you got some links)

A fly by night greedy crypto shill ? sure.. not what we consider a scammer so much i think.
Intent is the key.
Does she knowingly KNOW ahead of time that a project she is flogging etc is a confirmed scam ?
That can be a bit tricky to prove of course.

And i get a kick out of the Monero vs Dash guys using this as an excuse to attack each other.
The lawsuit commentary ?
Aww come on.. gimme a break guys.
What happened to chanting NO LAWS and Free market ? hahahha

All i know is i posted some joking commentary that i did not think was going over the line too bad.
I was sure my own comments were more entertaining than offensive.
The other guy though.. he did for sure cross the line.
But on the flip side, i refuse to feel ashamed for appreciating the female form.

It's not cool to slut shame girls.. or horny-guy shame men either ! 

[iamnotback]

The lawsuit commentary ?
Aww come on.. gimme a break guys.
What happened to chanting NO LAWS and Free market ? hahahha

All i know is i posted some joking commentary that i did not think was going over the line too bad.

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But on the flip side, i refuse to feel ashamed for appreciating the female form.

It's not cool to slut shame girls.. or horny-guy shame men either !  

After all the shit that has been written in these putrid forums, I have to agree with Spoetnik on this one.

I am not anonymous and anonymous trolls attack me every damn hour.

Amanda is a public figure and thus she is fair game for jokes according to the law.

You anal motherfuckers and those who want to regulate our pink shits ecosystem are really fucking loonie (and that includes you Spoetnik because you said you want regulation, lol).

Come on men, wake up to reality. Our pimple sized market cap gambling casino is just analogous to any other late night infomercial for breast enlargement pills. Okay there is a pooling of funds in our case, but apparently there is no global law against this. And each investor owns his own copy of the software and can fork the blockchain if he wants. We are buying software tokens, not company shares. Nobody owns the blockchain.

[BitcoinNational]

"Does she knowingly KNOW ahead of time that a project she is flogging etc is a confirmed scam ?"
was she born last night?

[iCEBREAKER]

TOPIC IS ...
Amanda B Johnson - fraud, scam enabler and paid shill for dash/darkcoin

still true

How can this thread fail to mention ABJ getting rekt on BTC Uncensored?

Amanda B Johnson: "I'm a car salesman". Dash pumper Interviewed on Bitcoin Uncensored

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4r2gn9/amanda_b_johnson_im_a_car_salesman_dash_pumper/

"Pssst, hey nerd kid, wanna buy some used Duff-coins?" - Scamada B. Johnson, basically

[iamnotback]

Breathing will soon be a scam:

I bet you think fractional reserve banking is a scam too  

Am I talking to a bunch of rubes that just fell off the turnip truck?  Of course fractional reserve banking is a scam.

It is the natural state of affairs. You can't regulate what is natural. So nature is a scam?  

Did you forget what the free market chose to do in the 1800s by preferring to use fractional receipts instead of trade physical gold.

How can this thread fail to mention ABJ getting rekt on BTC Uncensored?

Amanda B Johnson: "I'm a car salesman". Dash pumper Interviewed on Bitcoin Uncensored

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4r2gn9/amanda_b_johnson_im_a_car_salesman_dash_pumper/

"Pssst, hey nerd kid, wanna buy some used Duff-coins?" - Scamada B. Johnson, basically

Typical iCEBREAKER exaggeration.

I am listening to the first few minutes of that and she seems to be very transparent about her philosophies. She is entitled to her opinion.

iCEBREAKER is an asshole who needs an ass whooping. I'll be happy to do it if ever shows me his face in person.

As if iCEBREAKER isn't also pumping his investments and attacking all those altcoins that compete with the ones he is invested in. Holier than thou asshurl.

Seems you are jealous that she is an effective marketer to nerd kids. You can learn a lot about a person by observing how they handle their jealousy.


That she doesn't know why InstantX and CoinJoin are shit technologies, doesn't mean she is an intentional scammer. She is not a domain expert. She is approaching this from her female perspective and being a relative newbie to all of this.

[BitcoinNational]

 She is entitled to her opinion.^TM
And a monthly paycheck for it.
It =  "her female perspective and being a relative newbie to all of this"

me ... ha ha ha, she's selling Duff's used cars.