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February 27, 2017, 05:18:58 PM
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religion in general is shit

I agree. But Semitic religions (especially Islam and Evangelical Christianity) are more so. On the other hand, the oriental religions (Buddhism, Hinduism, Shintoism, Taoism.etc) are by and large very peaceful.
In fact, all religions are dangerous. Just in every religion there are fanatics. They are a danger and this applies to fanatics of all religions.
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February 27, 2017, 05:21:48 PM
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religion in general is shit

I agree. But Semitic religions (especially Islam and Evangelical Christianity) are more so. On the other hand, the oriental religions (Buddhism, Hinduism, Shintoism, Taoism.etc) are by and large very peaceful.

Well mainly because they're not religions.

I don't know for Hinduism, but Buddhism and especially  Taoism and Shintoism are not religions.
They're... Mystical philosophies at best ^^

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February 27, 2017, 07:48:44 PM
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OMG you're just a bunch of terrified dudes believing that Muslims are taking over your world xD

Well maybe that if you stopped bombing their home you wouldn't have so much Muslims in yours? xD
I don't bomb the homes..  Blame the ELITE. I.E SAUDI and greedy politicians Wink..
I don't make 1 penny off a weapon the weapon makers do Wink..

How dare you blame poor Mary down the street.
She is having a baby and needs a council home   But some immigrant took it..

The government has cut funds to hospitals schools  council homes    austerity..
 
Low pay wages from immigrants does not help our nation..
By the time the low pay use the hospitals schools tax credits for a home   the tax they pay doesn't cover the school bills  never mind the hospitals the tax credits and what not..

An immigrant should get NO BENEFITS WHAT SO EVER..
Oh you think it's unfair?..

Well i lived in jersey for 3 years and i worked knowing i got no benefits what so ever..
I knew if i never worked i got no money..

I even lived in a tent for the summer because no rooms Wink..
Worked till the winter then got a place to stay and stayed 3 years..

If your an immigrant it should be like this ..
You must have worked in the uk for 25 years and paying tax before you can buy a home or get any benefits..

Yes you can buy a home straight away as long as that home is worth more than 2 million ..
Why i say 2 million because most poor wont be able to buy a home for 2 million so no effect to the poor
because someone paying 2 million as no fight for a home with a poor person..



If you don't understand you're responsible for the actions of your government I have nothing to say to you.
Go back to your "I'm not responsible" bullshit.
We got rid of tony blair ..Now we could of been irresponsible and left TONY BLAIR in power.. Wink

Also we chose not to go to war with SYRIA ..The vote was to bomb the shit out of Syria and we voted against
it..

We can only do something every 4 or 5 years it's called democracy ..Like get rid of who is in power..

If they decided after 4 or 5 years not to leave power we would attack and string them up on a lamp post..

But it's up to the police to arrest any politician leader if they broke the LAW ..
So maybe the police could arrest a few politician once and a while..
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February 27, 2017, 08:30:24 PM
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For me, no religion is the best or the most peaceful or what else.
Decisive are the followers
But I respect everyone and if I had to choose, then I would vote for the relegion that is not missioned.
No missions = no violence = no victims
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February 27, 2017, 08:44:14 PM
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What you morons failed to see is that having power and wealth in this world requires painting religions like Islam a bad thing.
One of the first teachings of Islam is "do no harm unless they try to harm you first".
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February 27, 2017, 10:09:49 PM
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What you morons failed to see is that having power and wealth in this world requires painting religions like Islam a bad thing.
One of the first teachings of Islam is "do no harm unless they try to harm you first".
If i leave ISLAM am doing harm to ISLAM  ? so that gives ISLAM the right to kill me..
Yes but that's what ISLAM believes  Wink.

Upset Islam and you have?                     unless they try to harm you first..

I don't believe in your bullshit ISLAM   so i have struck first .. so now should i die?.

Well according to 700 million Muslims i should Cheesy..

I thinks it's you who is the Moron.
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February 27, 2017, 10:41:18 PM
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OMG you're just a bunch of terrified dudes believing that Muslims are taking over your world xD

Well maybe that if you stopped bombing their home you wouldn't have so much Muslims in yours? xD
I don't bomb the homes..  Blame the ELITE. I.E SAUDI and greedy politicians Wink..
I don't make 1 penny off a weapon the weapon makers do Wink..

How dare you blame poor Mary down the street.
She is having a baby and needs a council home   But some immigrant took it..

The government has cut funds to hospitals schools  council homes    austerity..
 
Low pay wages from immigrants does not help our nation..
By the time the low pay use the hospitals schools tax credits for a home   the tax they pay doesn't cover the school bills  never mind the hospitals the tax credits and what not..

An immigrant should get NO BENEFITS WHAT SO EVER..
Oh you think it's unfair?..

Well i lived in jersey for 3 years and i worked knowing i got no benefits what so ever..
I knew if i never worked i got no money..

I even lived in a tent for the summer because no rooms Wink..
Worked till the winter then got a place to stay and stayed 3 years..

If your an immigrant it should be like this ..
You must have worked in the uk for 25 years and paying tax before you can buy a home or get any benefits..

Yes you can buy a home straight away as long as that home is worth more than 2 million ..
Why i say 2 million because most poor wont be able to buy a home for 2 million so no effect to the poor
because someone paying 2 million as no fight for a home with a poor person..



If you don't understand you're responsible for the actions of your government I have nothing to say to you.
Go back to your "I'm not responsible" bullshit.
We got rid of tony blair ..Now we could of been irresponsible and left TONY BLAIR in power.. Wink

Also we chose not to go to war with SYRIA ..The vote was to bomb the shit out of Syria and we voted against
it..

We can only do something every 4 or 5 years it's called democracy ..Like get rid of who is in power..


If they decided after 4 or 5 years not to leave power we would attack and string them up on a lamp post..

But it's up to the police to arrest any politician leader if they broke the LAW ..
So maybe the police could arrest a few politician once and a while..

That's where you're wrong kiddo.
You're all talking about your rights and shits, but you forget your duty.
As a citizen, it's your duty to revolt against your own government if you actually believe they're threatening the future of your country and that the system is rigged in general.

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February 27, 2017, 10:51:29 PM
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One of the first teachings of Islam is "do no harm unless they try to harm you first".

Really?

Who, exactly do you think is going to believe that?
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February 28, 2017, 12:18:44 AM
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OMG you're just a bunch of terrified dudes believing that Muslims are taking over your world xD

Well maybe that if you stopped bombing their home you wouldn't have so much Muslims in yours? xD
I don't bomb the homes..  Blame the ELITE. I.E SAUDI and greedy politicians Wink..
I don't make 1 penny off a weapon the weapon makers do Wink..

How dare you blame poor Mary down the street.
She is having a baby and needs a council home   But some immigrant took it..

The government has cut funds to hospitals schools  council homes    austerity..
 
Low pay wages from immigrants does not help our nation..
By the time the low pay use the hospitals schools tax credits for a home   the tax they pay doesn't cover the school bills  never mind the hospitals the tax credits and what not..

An immigrant should get NO BENEFITS WHAT SO EVER..
Oh you think it's unfair?..

Well i lived in jersey for 3 years and i worked knowing i got no benefits what so ever..
I knew if i never worked i got no money..

I even lived in a tent for the summer because no rooms Wink..
Worked till the winter then got a place to stay and stayed 3 years..

If your an immigrant it should be like this ..
You must have worked in the uk for 25 years and paying tax before you can buy a home or get any benefits..

Yes you can buy a home straight away as long as that home is worth more than 2 million ..
Why i say 2 million because most poor wont be able to buy a home for 2 million so no effect to the poor
because someone paying 2 million as no fight for a home with a poor person..



If you don't understand you're responsible for the actions of your government I have nothing to say to you.
Go back to your "I'm not responsible" bullshit.
We got rid of tony blair ..Now we could of been irresponsible and left TONY BLAIR in power.. Wink

Also we chose not to go to war with SYRIA ..The vote was to bomb the shit out of Syria and we voted against
it..

We can only do something every 4 or 5 years it's called democracy ..Like get rid of who is in power..


If they decided after 4 or 5 years not to leave power we would attack and string them up on a lamp post..

But it's up to the police to arrest any politician leader if they broke the LAW ..
So maybe the police could arrest a few politician once and a while..

That's where you're wrong kiddo.
You're all talking about your rights and shits, but you forget your duty.
As a citizen, it's your duty to revolt against your own government if you actually believe they're threatening the future of your country and that the system is rigged in general.

No we vote ..When we vote who ever wins that's what we must follow. If they don't follow what we voted for THEN YES IT IS MY DUTY TO REVOLT  Wink..

Like take Brexit if we don't pull out you will see the shit hit the fan..We voted OUT.

NO DEALS BUT OUT..Get a deal but if one is not reached by the dead line we pull out with no deals..
JUST WALK..

The politicians were all saying once we leave we leave no going back..OH and the sky would fall in Cheesy
So we asked to leave and WE WILL LEAVE ..

To all you EU politicians i smell your money interest in the EU EVAPORATING 

You do know that it's the ISLAM WE HATE and we hate you for making us live with it..
SO FUCK OFF.. EU DUMB ASSES

A politician cannot say WE HATE ISLAM but we know most do Cheesy     get called racist

Every country in EUROPE will turn on ISLAM and POLITICIANS OF OLD .
And if you think CHRISTIANITY will be back again YOU KILLED IT ..

See stupid religious thinkers with their stupid ideas .
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February 28, 2017, 02:07:28 AM
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religion in general is shit

I agree. But Semitic religions (especially Islam and Evangelical Christianity) are more so. On the other hand, the oriental religions (Buddhism, Hinduism, Shintoism, Taoism.etc) are by and large very peaceful.

Well mainly because they're not religions.

I don't know for Hinduism, but Buddhism and especially  Taoism and Shintoism are not religions.
They're... Mystical philosophies at best ^^

I would disagree. I would rather call Hinduism, Shintoism, Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, and Yazidism as real religions. For me, Christianity and Islam are more like business minded philosophies.

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February 28, 2017, 04:04:52 AM
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religion in general is shit

I agree. But Semitic religions (especially Islam and Evangelical Christianity) are more so. On the other hand, the oriental religions (Buddhism, Hinduism, Shintoism, Taoism.etc) are by and large very peaceful.

Well mainly because they're not religions.

I don't know for Hinduism, but Buddhism and especially  Taoism and Shintoism are not religions.
They're... Mystical philosophies at best ^^

I would disagree. I would rather call Hinduism, Shintoism, Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, and Yazidism as real religions. For me, Christianity and Islam are more like business minded philosophies.
OH COME ON THEY ALL WANT MONEY..

You don't think they get dressed up for nothing Roll Eyes..HINDU you pay RINS

Buddhism the monk does a couple of chants and you pay the monk..

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And your a Hindu you of all should know someone always wants something..
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February 28, 2017, 05:28:57 AM
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I am not an anti muslim but we all know that this is right in most cases they are responsible for terrorism. I think it is because they want to fight for their liberty. Although i have seen a journalist before who went into iraq and interviewed a terrorist group. Children there were thought that suicide bombing is also dying for Allah which also means that if you die for allah you can go with him/her
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February 28, 2017, 05:35:55 AM
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I am not an anti muslim but we all know that this is right in most cases they are responsible for terrorism.

I would argue that the media pushes the opinion that Muslims are responsible for most of the terrorism... but, the media pushes a lot of opinions which are not concordant with reality

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According to the FBI, 94% of terrorist attacks carried out in the United States from 1980 to 2005 have been by non-Muslims.
https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005

Ok, well that is just America... but Europe... that is where all the terrorist attacks are, right?... wrong!

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There have been over one thousand terrorist attacks in Europe in the past five years. Take a guess at what percent of those terrorists were Muslim. Wrong, now guess again. It’s less than 2%.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/omar-alnatour/muslims-are-not-terrorist_b_8718000.html
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February 28, 2017, 05:38:49 AM
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They need to be responsible for all kinds of terrorism. Why? Because if they aren't, they are not really Muslims. Their Koran book says that they have to be violent to be Muslim - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm.

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February 28, 2017, 06:17:08 AM
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I am not an anti muslim but we all know that this is right in most cases they are responsible for terrorism.

I would argue that the media pushes the opinion that Muslims are responsible for most of the terrorism... but, the media pushes a lot of opinions which are not concordant with reality

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According to the FBI, 94% of terrorist attacks carried out in the United States from 1980 to 2005 have been by non-Muslims.
https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005

Ok, well that is just America... but Europe... that is where all the terrorist attacks are, right?... wrong!

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There have been over one thousand terrorist attacks in Europe in the past five years. Take a guess at what percent of those terrorists were Muslim. Wrong, now guess again. It’s less than 2%.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/omar-alnatour/muslims-are-not-terrorist_b_8718000.html


Non- muslims? Can you name some terrorist groups that are non muslims? Even if the media is doig it wrong or right. Still it would be very easy for us whether the terrorist is a muslim ones or not. For example the ISIS. Most of the muslims are saying that they are actually part of the muslim community. However it is pretty obvious that they are muslims. Again i am not against muslims
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February 28, 2017, 09:09:37 AM
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With the repeated claims thats Islam is a religion o peace, Their actions says otherwise. Most but not all of them are ready to kill "infidels" so that they can go to heaven and have their 72 virgins thats been promised. according to my research, if they commit this heinous deed, their family members also get the chance to go heaven. Whiles Jesus laid down his own life for people to go to heaven, Islam tell others to kill to be able to gain access to heaven.
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February 28, 2017, 09:21:26 AM
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It's not a religion, it's an ideology. A way of life that grants peace and love among muslim MEN. The rest can pretty much get rekt.

So it's fascism, really.
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February 28, 2017, 11:31:01 AM
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With the repeated claims thats Islam is a religion o peace, Their actions says otherwise. Most but not all of them are ready to kill "infidels" so that they can go to heaven and have their 72 virgins thats been promised. according to my research, if they commit this heinous deed, their family members also get the chance to go heaven. Whiles Jesus laid down his own life for people to go to heaven, Islam tell others to kill to be able to gain access to heaven.
Oh come on seriously dude? Most of them? I've known a lot of muslims here who follow islam by heart and not once did any of these violent things you're stating ever brought up. I don't think we have any right to judge all muslim by what their bad tomatoes are doing because there's as much bad tomatoes in any other religion as well. I think its unfair to the majority of kind respectful muslims around the world.

 
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February 28, 2017, 01:35:10 PM
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With the repeated claims thats Islam is a religion o peace, Their actions says otherwise. Most but not all of them are ready to kill "infidels" so that they can go to heaven and have their 72 virgins thats been promised. according to my research, if they commit this heinous deed, their family members also get the chance to go heaven. Whiles Jesus laid down his own life for people to go to heaven, Islam tell others to kill to be able to gain access to heaven.
Oh come on seriously dude? Most of them? I've known a lot of muslims here who follow islam by heart and not once did any of these violent things you're stating ever brought up. I don't think we have any right to judge all muslim by what their bad tomatoes are doing because there's as much bad tomatoes in any other religion as well. I think its unfair to the majority of kind respectful muslims around the world.

We certainly do have the right, when those "bad tomatoes" claim they are virtuous, good muslims, and cite from old holy books in support of their position.

And that's exactly what they do.  Anyway, many Muslims consider the likes of the founder of Hamas, or Bin Laden, or Yassir Arafat to be heroes and role models. 

They were terrorists, pure and simple.
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February 28, 2017, 06:43:10 PM
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With the repeated claims thats Islam is a religion o peace, Their actions says otherwise. Most but not all of them are ready to kill "infidels" so that they can go to heaven and have their 72 virgins thats been promised. according to my research, if they commit this heinous deed, their family members also get the chance to go heaven. Whiles Jesus laid down his own life for people to go to heaven, Islam tell others to kill to be able to gain access to heaven.
Oh come on seriously dude? Most of them? I've known a lot of muslims here who follow islam by heart and not once did any of these violent things you're stating ever brought up. I don't think we have any right to judge all muslim by what their bad tomatoes are doing because there's as much bad tomatoes in any other religion as well. I think its unfair to the majority of kind respectful muslims around the world.

We certainly do have the right, when those "bad tomatoes" claim they are virtuous, good muslims, and cite from old holy books in support of their position.

And that's exactly what they do.  Anyway, many Muslims consider the likes of the founder of Hamas, or Bin Laden, or Yassir Arafat to be heroes and role models.  

They were terrorists, pure and simple.

And all those good tomatoes are afraid of being ruled an infidel by those bad tomatoes which is about the biggest shame one an bring upon a good muslim. A threat too since being judged an infidel means you're free game.
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