How is trading *not* gambling?

[Cahndeso]

For me trading and gambling is almost same activity, its depend on luck ( one again its only for myself and from my experience). when i had luck i can earn some money from trading and gambling but when i had no luck then bust all.

But may be everyone have different opinion for this question, its normal because different knowledge and experience.

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[eternalgloom]

Its similar to some forms of wagering like betting on horse racing or poker.
You are taking an educated guess. Doing research may give you a slight advantage which, over time, may allow you to make more money than other players.
But its still definitely a form of gambling.

Trading is widely different from gambling as the sky from the earth. Gambling is a games of chance and forex trading is a business. Gambling is based of a probability why  trading is based on skills and adequate knowledge. You don't need any knowledge to be successful in it but in forex you need to have adequate skill, understanding and know on how it works.

Trading is also based on probability, though indeed, it's not the same as gambling. With trading you try to predict what is more likely to happen (price going up or down), so that's probability.
You do that by doing a market analysis and by that you determine if there's either a BUY or a SELL signal.

[streazight]

How different is trading from just gambling? I know there seems to be a  big difference with technical analysis and whatnot, but in the end aren't you just betting on something completely random?

There is a big difference between trading and gambling. If you say trading, it is an exchange of altcoins. You can earn here by just increasing the value of it then exchange it back to bitcoin. Then if you say gambling, there is a winner and there is a loser. You can earn also here if you know the tricks.

The problem is right there brother, you haven't understood trading in its core .. trading does not means buying an entity and selling it .. its not that simple and flat. Rather its trusting a company and the team behind them and backing them financially and hoping/believing that the shares will go up with time. But gambling is not having such part.

Maybe it is different then gambling in some ways but you said trusting other companies and hoping that the shares will go up, what makes you think you can trust those, what is the garneted so that someday they will give you back your money and they won’t just walk away with it, that is the problem business on the internet has become full of scams and we can’t trust anyone, that what makes trading similar to gambling because they both have risks.

[OrangeII]

Its similar to some forms of wagering like betting on horse racing or poker.
You are taking an educated guess. Doing research may give you a slight advantage which, over time, may allow you to make more money than other players.
But its still definitely a form of gambling.

Trading is widely different from gambling as the sky from the earth. Gambling is a games of chance and forex trading is a business. Gambling is based of a probability why  trading is based on skills and adequate knowledge. You don't need any knowledge to be successful in it but in forex you need to have adequate skill, understanding and know on how it works.

Trading is also based on probability, though indeed, it's not the same as gambling. With trading you try to predict what is more likely to happen (price going up or down), so that's probability.
You do that by doing a market analysis and by that you determine if there's either a BUY or a SELL signal.

perhaps the big difference in the analysis. you can only guess with gambling. but, in contrast to trading. if you have accurate information, and can conclude that the price will appear in a few hours, or days, of course it will bring great benefits, and has a small risk.

[dearbesz1219]

How different is trading from just gambling? I know there seems to be a  big difference with technical analysis and whatnot, but in the end aren't you just betting on something completely random?

The way you do these quoted question is I think your doing studying about in trading or it may just your doing like a feasibility about it. In fact researching about it is a nice way of learning. I don't see big difference between Trading and gambling, Actually, they are same in terms of playing in betting I think, in trading you do multiplying your coins according to your coin choice, through buy high at low then sell at high.

[neochiny]

How different is trading from just gambling? I know there seems to be a  big difference with technical analysis and whatnot, but in the end aren't you just betting on something completely random?

No. Trading isn't 'random'. A good trader acts based on experience and his skill in gauging or reading the market.
Gambling, on the other hand, is random. It's not based on anything but chance, luck, and gut feelings.

Research and experience for trading while chance and luck for gambling. How is that the same.
Similar traits may be seen on both but the main differences are still huge so it should not be considered the same based on some minute similarities.     

[RussiaIsBest]

My personal opinion about that is that trading isnt gambling because trading is business and gambling is using money for have a fun and make money.So trading is when you buy/sell something and if you have informations you can easy predict the price of something and earn a easy mney but in gambling you can easy lose because all casinos are provably unfair.

[angaper]

I have been a trader for more than five years and I still have not found the relationship between gambling and trading in my ordinary activity.

At least my personal strategy in trading depends  solely on calculations, statistics and strong money management, so the possibility of  losing money has been completely removed from my trading routine because I do not like to depend on good luck to generate stable incomes.

[Mr.grin]

I have been a trader for more than five years and I still have not found the relationship between gambling and trading in my ordinary activity.

At least my personal strategy in trading depends  solely on calculations, statistics and strong money management, so the possibility of  losing money has been completely removed from my trading routine because I do not like to depend on good luck to generate stable incomes.

you are right. words are almost the same, get out of my friends are very happy to play trading. Well, maybe if you do not know the play trading, it can be likened to gambling, because you just rely on your luck. but, if you already have a good management, and has a lot of information, you can analyze the price, and can make a steady income by trading.

[Amph]

I have been a trader for more than five years and I still have not found the relationship between gambling and trading in my ordinary activity.

At least my personal strategy in trading depends  solely on calculations, statistics and strong money management, so the possibility of  losing money has been completely removed from my trading routine because I do not like to depend on good luck to generate stable incomes.

funny thing is that strategy does not work all the time, this mean that there is a certain % of loss which is not insignificant

trading is gambling simply because of this not insignificant % of loss, when someone say that you can be 55% + ev in the long term he is actually saying that he is gambling, no real difference

because there is also no guaranteed that the 55% as an example will stay there forever

[Zadicar]

If you trades doesnt have any plans or strategies that is being used then trading would really be considered as gambling since you are risking your money randomly.
Trading does really require technical analysis and other stuffs for you to able to be profitable with it.

[el kaka22]

If you trades doesnt have any plans or strategies that is being used then trading would really be considered as gambling since you are risking your money randomly.
Trading does really require technical analysis and other stuffs for you to able to be profitable with it.

But we can see lot of people are struggling to develop their gambling strategies and plans to get success there, I mean to say gambling also can have plans and strategies. But, trading can not be profitable without plans whereas gambling will be. Trading and gambling has many common characteristics. I guess it would be too hard to differentiate them exactly.

[1Referee]

funny thing is that strategy does not work all the time, this mean that there is a certain % of loss which is not insignificant

trading is gambling simply because of this not insignificant % of loss, when someone say that you can be 55% + ev in the long term he is actually saying that he is gambling, no real difference

because there is also no guaranteed that the 55% as an example will stay there forever

Guaranteed profits don't exist, so yes, you can't expect to make a certain amount of profits every year. You'll make what you make, where at the end of the year you'll see how much profit you actually gained. Point is that if you know what you do, that you can create a profit buffer with the right trades that you make. This buffer will be sufficient enough to catch up occasional losses by trades gone wrong since you can't predict the market. I am of course referring to trading Bitcoin and not altcoins. Altcoins fit in a totally different category, which I personally believe is in fact very close to gambling.

[boumalo]

funny thing is that strategy does not work all the time, this mean that there is a certain % of loss which is not insignificant

trading is gambling simply because of this not insignificant % of loss, when someone say that you can be 55% + ev in the long term he is actually saying that he is gambling, no real difference

because there is also no guaranteed that the 55% as an example will stay there forever

Guaranteed profits don't exist, so yes, you can't expect to make a certain amount of profits every year. You'll make what you make, where at the end of the year you'll see how much profit you actually gained. Point is that if you know what you do, that you can create a profit buffer with the right trades that you make. This buffer will be sufficient enough to catch up occasional losses by trades gone wrong since you can't predict the market. I am of course referring to trading Bitcoin and not altcoins. Altcoins fit in a totally different category, which I personally believe is in fact very close to gambling.

Having a chance to lose doesn't make it gambling, having a huge uncertainty doesn't make it gambling either. In casino gambling you are an underdog, in trading  you can have a positive expectation.

[icecube45]

If you trades doesnt have any plans or strategies that is being used then trading would really be considered as gambling since you are risking your money randomly.
Trading does really require technical analysis and other stuffs for you to able to be profitable with it.

But we can see lot of people are struggling to develop their gambling strategies and plans to get success there, I mean to say gambling also can have plans and strategies. But, trading can not be profitable without plans whereas gambling will be. Trading and gambling has many common characteristics. I guess it would be too hard to differentiate them exactly.

There are many gamblers who speaks of "a strategy that has proven" to profit, this is just nonsense. All gambling involves games of chance. In gambling, the possibility of losing your money is greater than the probability of selling the assets in trading. If you gamble, the probability of losing is very high. Although the possibility of losing is still relatively high in the financial markets, the price of the underlying financial assets are determined by supply and demand. This makes strategy much more important in the trade rather than gambling. So I think between trading with gambling is very different.

[tifossi]

On my opinion trading is better than gambling. There are more people who make profit with trading because it's not only luck to make money. There are a lot of gambling strategies and bots or scripts but at the end of the day, the bank wins. In trading you must invest more time but you can make more profit from it. There are some good trading bots or tools who help you to make trading easier. There isn't always a guarantee to make profit but the chance is higher.

[bettercrypto]

I have been a trader for more than five years and I still have not found the relationship between gambling and trading in my ordinary activity.

At least my personal strategy in trading depends  solely on calculations, statistics and strong money management, so the possibility of  losing money has been completely removed from my trading routine because I do not like to depend on good luck to generate stable incomes.

funny thing is that strategy does not work all the time, this mean that there is a certain % of loss which is not insignificant

trading is gambling simply because of this not insignificant % of loss, when someone say that you can be 55% + ev in the long term he is actually saying that he is gambling, no real difference

because there is also no guaranteed that the 55% as an example will stay there forever

If you take things that way then we can say everything here in  life is gamble and the way we process things is gambling.  From your definition, it is also apply in life, there is no certainty in the future even when you apply for job is it gambling too?  When you invest in a business, is it gambling too?  Taking your concept, yes they are gambling.  So my question will be what is not gambling?

[Viscore]

I have been a trader for more than five years and I still have not found the relationship between gambling and trading in my ordinary activity.

At least my personal strategy in trading depends  solely on calculations, statistics and strong money management, so the possibility of  losing money has been completely removed from my trading routine because I do not like to depend on good luck to generate stable incomes.

funny thing is that strategy does not work all the time, this mean that there is a certain % of loss which is not insignificant

trading is gambling simply because of this not insignificant % of loss, when someone say that you can be 55% + ev in the long term he is actually saying that he is gambling, no real difference

because there is also no guaranteed that the 55% as an example will stay there forever

If you take things that way then we can say everything here in  life is gamble and the way we process things is gambling.  From your definition, it is also apply in life, there is no certainty in the future even when you apply for job is it gambling too?  When you invest in a business, is it gambling too?  Taking your concept, yes they are gambling.  So my question will be what is not gambling?

Gamble and gambling has definitely a different meaning, all in life is gambling but it's not gambling. We are gambling when we use money to gamble on the possible outcome and that is what we are doing in online casinos and other gambling related sites.
Life is a gamble in the first place as we all take risk since we do not know the future.

[ultrloa]

funny thing is that strategy does not work all the time, this mean that there is a certain % of loss which is not insignificant

trading is gambling simply because of this not insignificant % of loss, when someone say that you can be 55% + ev in the long term he is actually saying that he is gambling, no real difference

because there is also no guaranteed that the 55% as an example will stay there forever

Guaranteed profits don't exist, so yes, you can't expect to make a certain amount of profits every year. You'll make what you make, where at the end of the year you'll see how much profit you actually gained. Point is that if you know what you do, that you can create a profit buffer with the right trades that you make. This buffer will be sufficient enough to catch up occasional losses by trades gone wrong since you can't predict the market. I am of course referring to trading Bitcoin and not altcoins. Altcoins fit in a totally different category, which I personally believe is in fact very close to gambling.

Having a chance to lose doesn't make it gambling, having a huge uncertainty doesn't make it gambling either. In casino gambling you are an underdog, in trading  you can have a positive expectation.

we have separate thoughs about this one but in my own opinion trading still a gambling why? Its because we are putting our money in a platform where we have a high chance that we can lose some money in a single mistake, casino games doesn't tell that this the only gambling platform since in every move we made i theres a risk behiding it can be called gambling also, thats why i conclude that platform that we are talking about here is yet can be called gambling.

[olubams]

In as much as trading and gambling are closely related since its both putting money in an activity and expecting a return, it does not mean they are the same simply because of the rate of risk attached to each. In the case of gambling there is no control whatsoever in losing. When you lose it happens once but not same way with trading as I am at liberty to mange such loses to my bearable ability...