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January 29, 2017, 05:12:53 PM |
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Trump seems to be the the first US president to go against the one china policy and wants to start a trade war with china. China already said it will answer accordingly with economical and military means.
In the case china allies with russia - which is highly likely based on geo-strategical positions - what are the chances that trump will be succesful?
There are stories of china talking indirectly with trump through jack ma who promised to create 1 million jobs in the US in the next coming 4-8 years, but isnt this more or less just a drop of water on a hot stone?
World wars began first as economic wars so it could be possible the economic war escalates to a military conflict, but we need to forget about the possibility of an open conflict since that would mean the destruction of both nations and large parts of the world.
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January 30, 2017, 10:24:28 AM |
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Trump is really confident about his own decisions even it obviously seems outrageous. It not really my thing to bash people but I think he doesn't think thing through. We need all the help that we can get and avoid making enemies as much as possible. War will just happen if we don't have good relationships with other countries.
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January 30, 2017, 11:31:03 AM |
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Trump is really confident about his own decisions even it obviously seems outrageous. It not really my thing to bash people but I think he doesn't think thing through. We need all the help that we can get and avoid making enemies as much as possible. War will just happen if we don't have good relationships with other countries.
The war will be if you let a potential enemy to develop its economy and as a consequence to strengthen its military power. And if this, America will lose all its allies it is generally a losing option.
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January 30, 2017, 01:02:51 PM |
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I do not think the countries will want to enter a new world war again. But if there is a possible war, the alliance states will be like this.
America, Europe and Arab countries Russia, China, Iran and Far Eastern countries
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January 30, 2017, 01:19:53 PM |
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I do not think the countries will want to enter a new world war again. But if there is a possible war, the alliance states will be like this.
America, Europe and Arab countries Russia, China, Iran and Far Eastern countries
Right now Trump is trying to destroy this order. He has destroyed the Asia-Pacific Union. Now destroys NATO and the Alliance with Europe. The lifting of the sanctions will strengthen Russia's military might. What does he have to do to make the Americans understand that Trump agent of Russia?
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January 30, 2017, 06:32:30 PM Last edit: January 30, 2017, 06:45:12 PM by Sex Video Chat VKcams.com |
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What does he have to do to make the Americans understand that Trump agent of Russia?
LOL
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January 30, 2017, 06:48:34 PM |
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War between the US and China will not. This will be a mutual destruction.
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February 05, 2017, 08:06:39 PM |
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sometimes you need a war to get peace
War is peace, ignorance is strength, freedom is slavery
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February 05, 2017, 09:37:09 PM |
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War is very profitable especially to the USA. Its the most lucrative business ever.
Yes, however war with China will be a slightly different story. All of the business and trade we have with China will be ruined, and in terms of business, it would be a huge detriment to the United States.
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February 06, 2017, 04:08:36 AM |
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War is very profitable especially to the USA. Its the most lucrative business ever.
Yes, however war with China will be a slightly different story. All of the business and trade we have with China will be ruined, and in terms of business, it would be a huge detriment to the United States. In a war, the participating nations loss more than they gain, even if they manage a military victory. Look at the USSR in the world war 2. They managed to defeat the Nazis, but in that process lost about 15% of the total population (most of them working age males).
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February 06, 2017, 04:20:05 AM |
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Obama and Hillary oversaw the largest US military build up in Asia since WW2 through their Asia Pivot. As a Chinese person who keeps up with these things, I can say that the Chinese government was very nervous about Obama's military aggression and so they started building bases in the south china sea etc. They aren't scared of Trump, they're just saying war is imminent because they know all the leftists in the US will jump on it to remove Trump's ability to negotiate trade deals with China (he's 100% right that China is ripping off the US, we've been doing it for like 20 years now, it's great for us).
The main problem is that Trump doesn't realize (or doesn't care) that the previous administration pointed a gun at China's head and passed it along to him, I don't know what the military industrial complex will be whispering in his ear - with Obama he just did what they told him without question because he makes money from it, with Trump I think he'll do what they want just because he's easy to manipulate and doesn't know what's going on.
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February 06, 2017, 05:25:22 AM |
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Obama and Hillary oversaw the largest US military build up in Asia since WW2 through their Asia Pivot. As a Chinese person who keeps up with these things, I can say that the Chinese government was very nervous about Obama's military aggression and so they started building bases in the south china sea etc. They aren't scared of Trump, they're just saying war is imminent because they know all the leftists in the US will jump on it to remove Trump's ability to negotiate trade deals with China (he's 100% right that China is ripping off the US, we've been doing it for like 20 years now, it's great for us).
The main problem is that Trump doesn't realize (or doesn't care) that the previous administration pointed a gun at China's head and passed it along to him, I don't know what the military industrial complex will be whispering in his ear - with Obama he just did what they told him without question because he makes money from it, with Trump I think he'll do what they want just because he's easy to manipulate and doesn't know what's going on.
We cannot accused Obama and Hilton about this, it is about the war of United States and China therefore, we must know what is their intentions. I think that President Trump cannot make a decision from now, but after a year or months later, he can decide what will happen. We cannot question him what he will do from now, I think President can manipulate or he is scared, because, it so very risky to take a decision from now.
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February 06, 2017, 03:15:38 PM |
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War is a bad idea for everyone. Simply as there is nothing for anyone to gain by going to war. If china bombs the united states, who will buy their cheaply made, counterfeit, goods? China bombing their #1 consumer makes no sense. If united states bombs china, who will make our cheap ipods? War is unlikely whatever the fearmongering media says. War only creates casualties. The weakest people are children. Children will suffer from unsafe situation.
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February 06, 2017, 03:31:11 PM |
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War is a bad idea for everyone. Simply as there is nothing for anyone to gain by going to war. If china bombs the united states, who will buy their cheaply made, counterfeit, goods? China bombing their #1 consumer makes no sense. If united states bombs china, who will make our cheap ipods? War is unlikely whatever the fearmongering media says. War only creates casualties. The weakest people are children. Children will suffer from unsafe situation. People are very aggressive animals and can't live without wars. Wars help control the overpopulation of the planet and stimulate the economy. Can to prevent them is not possible and we need to accept this fact?
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February 08, 2017, 02:59:39 AM |
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Obama and Hillary oversaw the largest US military build up in Asia since WW2 through their Asia Pivot. As a Chinese person who keeps up with these things, I can say that the Chinese government was very nervous about Obama's military aggression and so they started building bases in the south china sea etc. They aren't scared of Trump, they're just saying war is imminent because they know all the leftists in the US will jump on it to remove Trump's ability to negotiate trade deals with China (he's 100% right that China is ripping off the US, we've been doing it for like 20 years now, it's great for us).
The main problem is that Trump doesn't realize (or doesn't care) that the previous administration pointed a gun at China's head and passed it along to him, I don't know what the military industrial complex will be whispering in his ear - with Obama he just did what they told him without question because he makes money from it, with Trump I think he'll do what they want just because he's easy to manipulate and doesn't know what's going on.
We cannot accused Obama and Hilton about this, it is about the war of United States and China therefore, we must know what is their intentions. I think that President Trump cannot make a decision from now, but after a year or months later, he can decide what will happen. We cannot question him what he will do from now, I think President can manipulate or he is scared, because, it so very risky to take a decision from now. I was thinking a similar thing, that a president cannot really even have much influence over this situation anyway, they have to do what they are told or they get killed or impeached or whatever.
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February 08, 2017, 04:54:25 PM |
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Well, the rely on one another. plus Jack Ma has been in talks with Trump so i doubt it would bring a war.... They will solve it in the end.
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February 08, 2017, 05:10:25 PM |
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Well, the rely on one another. plus Jack Ma has been in talks with Trump so i doubt it would bring a war.... They will solve it in the end.
And I'm sure that there will be no war. Unless you mean a trade war. If a trade war then she had to go and not only with China. Now there is a global trade war. I don't think she will grow into a hot war.
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February 09, 2017, 07:21:15 PM |
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Well, the rely on one another. plus Jack Ma has been in talks with Trump so i doubt it would bring a war.... They will solve it in the end.
And I'm sure that there will be no war. Unless you mean a trade war. If a trade war then she had to go and not only with China. Now there is a global trade war. I don't think she will grow into a hot war. China has just positioned their ICBM's to retaliate just in case pepe is going crazy.
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