Data Center Mining Garage and Man Mining Cave

[citronick]

hey guys... i have the same on/off switch ~ its really cheap and good 

too bad, all of them will have to go once the SRR in put in place.

Anyone got theirs yet?

[reelen]

The side View of the MSI opened case looks incredible. 

Agreed.  I have another 7 of those cards I need to stick in a rig.

[reelen]

hey guys... i have the same on/off switch ~ its really cheap and good 

too bad, all of them will have to go once the SRR in put in place.

Anyone got theirs yet?

Damn, you are right and that makes me sad.  I haven't even received a shipping confirmation yet and I paid for the expedited shipping.

[yun9999]

hey guys... i have the same on/off switch ~ its really cheap and good 

too bad, all of them will have to go once the SRR in put in place.

Anyone got theirs yet?

Hawkfish is getting 1 sent to him in 3 days.  Tytanik was interested in using my place as a USA warehouse, as well as sending 1 unit for me to do a Product review but I guess he got too busy.  Funny you mentioned that as I was just telling Hawkfish, those SEXY power buttons will be gone once we use SRR.   "Meaby..................he will eventually send me a unit for review"

[m1n1ngP4d4w4n]

Looking good there people.

One question thought, i know the sexiness is awesome & all, but have you ever seen how much power you save if you disable the led of your cards ? it begin to stack up nicely when you have plenty of rigs. What's your thoughts on this. Sexyness VS Profit ? 

[yun9999]

Looking good there people.

One question thought, i know the sexiness is awesome & all, but have you ever seen how much power you save if you disable the led of your cards ? it begin to stack up nicely when you have plenty of rigs. What's your thoughts on this. Sexyness VS Profit ?  

LED = SUPER Low watts.  This is also why all my home light bulbs are LED now.  They use even less than CFL.  This is also another reason why my Garage is lit via 3 x 4 ft LED Light and the shed is lit by 1 of them as I never want to turn off my lights.  I also hate turning up my attic lights where I store all my GPU boxes.  They are very well organized by GPU types up there and I can hold at least 1200 GPU boxes in my attic.  Those 2 LED bulbs uses 7W each, so I never turn them off.  Having the lights on 24x7 also help reduce inviting Rats into the place as they prefer darker places.  

If I have to guess, all of the MSI LEDs combined probably uses less than 15W for my over 150 MSI.  Here's a good comparison so you can get a rough idea.

XMAS lights
Your display size and choice of bulbs, whether incandescent or LED, will influence your energy bill the most. For example, a 100-count string of incandescent mini lights runs at 40 watts, while a 70 count of 5mm Wide Angle LEDs is approximately 4.8 watts total. In fact, because incandescent wattage is 80-90% more than LED wattage, the cost to power an incandescent can be up to 90x greater than powering an LED.

In Summary - This is SEXY on the DIRT Cheap, leave those LEDs on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  The MSI Dragons can also switch 16 millions colors, via the software.  SUPER SEXY.......... I still need the MSI 480 ROM to make them produce better than my 470.  So far not much help in that department.  Don't forget, I'm all ABOUT THE EFFICIENCY, that to me is the SEXIEST.  If it aint making me money, I want to keep it CHEAP.

[m1n1ngP4d4w4n]

Looking good there people.

One question thought, i know the sexiness is awesome & all, but have you ever seen how much power you save if you disable the led of your cards ? it begin to stack up nicely when you have plenty of rigs. What's your thoughts on this. Sexyness VS Profit ?  

LED = SUPER Low watts.  This is also why all my home light bulbs are LED now.  They use even less than CFL.  This is also another reason why my Garage is lit via 3 x 4 ft LED Light and the shed is lit by 1 of them as I never want to turn off my lights.  I also hate turning up my attic lights where I store all my GPU boxes.  They are very well organized by GPU types up there and I can hold at least 1200 GPU boxes in my attic.  Those 2 LED bulbs uses 7W each, so I never turn them off.  Having the lights on 24x7 also help reduce inviting Rats into the place as they prefer darker places.  

If I have to guess, all of the MSI LEDs combined probably uses less than 15W for my over 150 MSI.  Here's a good comparison so you can get a rough idea.

XMAS lights
Your display size and choice of bulbs, whether incandescent or LED, will influence your energy bill the most. For example, a 100-count string of incandescent mini lights runs at 40 watts, while a 70 count of 5mm Wide Angle LEDs is approximately 4.8 watts total. In fact, because incandescent wattage is 80-90% more than LED wattage, the cost to power an incandescent can be up to 90x greater than powering an LED.

In Summary - This is SEXY on the DIRT Cheap, leave those LEDs on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Don't forget, I'm all ABOUT THE EFFICIENCY, that to me is the SEXIEST.  If it aint making me money, I want to keep it CHEAP.

Hehe Well for me it was more 5/6 watts per rig, i guess the EVGA isn't that effective when it come to led, to note the led system allow you to change from alot of colors and effects, maybe this system is more complex so use more power, that's overall 60w saved, ok it's not that much... but still. Also i had weird behavior when i tested with the LEDs on it seems the hashing / miner were less stable, but it may be in my head, but since the led system is more complex than basic cards... i dunno.

I agree with you LED lighting is super cheap, i converted 2 years ago never looked back  

On another note what is your prefered remote control program for your rigs, do you use any monitors dummy plugs or something ?

[yun9999]

The LED is designed and tested at the Factory.  It's not a MOD, so you should have zero issues with them.  It's time to bring SEXY BACK!!!!  I never encourage over spending for looks, always invest in the HASH but when it's cheap and SEXY?  Why not?

Just like my SEXY 50" TV as a monitor for the SHED.........................SEXY and CHEAP..............Why NOT?


To the left is my Canary Security Camera that will notify me of any motion in the garage and save a video if anyone is trying to break in.  I have the same for my garage.  Great for insurance protection.  It also have Humidity and Temp sensors.  

@Reelen - You can see then OpenCL errors you were concern about?  It's crappy code, I'm getting a ton of them.  Reboots or switching miner will fix them.  If not then that means you actually may have a hardware issue such as Riser or GPU, but most of the time it's sh%t code since these guys are pushing our GPU to the max to increase their profit margin at our own expense of higher wattage and killing our GPUS.

[m1n1ngP4d4w4n]

Hehe i will try again on one rig to compare over a week time, we'll see how it goes I want to bring back the sexiness ! :love:

[yun9999]

Cool, and make sure you measure wattage right as there's no way it would consume 5W.  5W for LED is super bright and equiv to a 60W incandescent bulb.   I have the EVGA 1070 before, it aint that bright.  Bring the SEXY Back.................wait until you see the Shed Sexy Light show.  =)    

Worked my @$$ off today, coming in to try and have me a nice ICE COLD..................My son Alfie, had a partied and left none.

[m1n1ngP4d4w4n]

Yeah definitly have to bring it back, the electricity cost worried me less than the instability, but i will try again, with newer drivers maybe it does better  

Urgh SAD TIME, i feel for you man  

* sending a cold one *

PS : damn man i got the same carpet home lol, cute doggie too, * pet *

[reelen]

@Reelen - You can see then OpenCL errors you were concern about?  It's crappy code, I'm getting a ton of them.  Reboots or switching miner will fix them.  If not then that means you actually may have a hardware issue such as Riser or GPU, but most of the time it's sh%t code since these guys are pushing our GPU to the max to increase their profit margin at our own expense of higher wattage and killing our GPUS.

I'll keep an eye out.  Mining Eth on Claymore 7.4 and its only on two rigs.  I reduced intensity and will try reboots before looking at hardware.

[Marvell1]

@Reelen - You can see then OpenCL errors you were concern about?  It's crappy code, I'm getting a ton of them.  Reboots or switching miner will fix them.  If not then that means you actually may have a hardware issue such as Riser or GPU, but most of the time it's sh%t code since these guys are pushing our GPU to the max to increase their profit margin at our own expense of higher wattage and killing our GPUS.

I'll keep an eye out.  Mining Eth on Claymore 7.4 and its only on two rigs.  I reduced intensity and will try reboots before looking at hardware.

my fear of having enclosed servers for mining is things like PSU failure GPU failuire etc, with open air rigs it takes no time at all to pull out the bad card or swap PSU

these setups look nice and all buy i already hate working in cramped and tigh places.  I currenly have around 250 gpus in six wireframe racks I could not imagine having to

dig into server cases and pull our one or two cards or swap a PSU.

[thesavoyard]

I have a semi-related question. I ordered a 1700 watt PSU and in the reviews, one guy said to plug it into the wall, not a surge protector. He said his first one burnt up because of that. However, the warranty on my GPU units does not cover power surges. I'd hate to risk that much. What do you do, surge protector direct from wall?

If I can get my electricity price issues worked out I will scale up, but I may need an electrician to put some high capacity plugs in.

[philipma1957]

I have a semi-related question. I ordered a 1700 watt PSU and in the reviews, one guy said to plug it into the wall, not a surge protector. He said his first one burnt up because of that. However, the warranty on my GPU units does not cover power surges. I'd hate to risk that much. What do you do, surge protector direct from wall?

If I can get my electricity price issues worked out I will scale up, but I may need an electrician to put some high capacity plugs in.

do yourself a favor install a whole house surge protector

https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/88568/LEV-511201.html?


it installs next to your  circuit panel

[Marvell1]

I have a semi-related question. I ordered a 1700 watt PSU and in the reviews, one guy said to plug it into the wall, not a surge protector. He said his first one burnt up because of that. However, the warranty on my GPU units does not cover power surges. I'd hate to risk that much. What do you do, surge protector direct from wall?

If I can get my electricity price issues worked out I will scale up, but I may need an electrician to put some high capacity plugs in.

do yourself a favor install a whole house surge protector

https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/88568/LEV-511201.html?


it installs next to your  circuit panel

I though you only need that in the third world or if you are in an area with lots of storms and lighting. 

[Searing]

I have a semi-related question. I ordered a 1700 watt PSU and in the reviews, one guy said to plug it into the wall, not a surge protector. He said his first one burnt up because of that. However, the warranty on my GPU units does not cover power surges. I'd hate to risk that much. What do you do, surge protector direct from wall?

If I can get my electricity price issues worked out I will scale up, but I may need an electrician to put some high capacity plugs in.

do yourself a favor install a whole house surge protector

https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/88568/LEV-511201.html?


it installs next to your  circuit panel

Just to be clear to all. A typical house is single phase power. I assume this device
is good for 200 amp service as such. (My house is 100 amp).

Does this need to be mounted on the main panel or can it be on a sub panel (60 amp) that is
correctly grounded (100 amp 8 slot neutral grounding screw removed, so it is grounded through
the main 100 amp panel? Long shot someone knows this, just tossing it out there.)

Anyway, just to clarify the instructions below. (Easier question for those who have one)

https://a89b8e4143ca50438f09-7c1706ba3fabeeda794725d88e4f5e57.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/spec_sheets/files/000/022/733/original/leviton-51120-1-installation-instructions.pdf?1442945250


Is it really that easy to put in? Ground wire/Neutral/2 20 amp breakers?
And this is it? Your whole 100 amp or 200 amp house 🏡 panel protected with
this surge protecter whole house device?

For those interested installation instructions above. I did put in sub panel for
my KNC Titans. Just double checking to be clear on this too, from any who put
this device in.

Thanks

[induktor]

That power button is gorgeous!!!!!! i love it

I don't remmeber who come up with the solution of using the minibox´s PICOPSU with the IBM bladeserver PSU, BRILLANT!!!! i didn't think of it, but you are right, fantastic combination!! and I use minibox PSUs a lot, I have right now a M2 ATX and M4 ATX PSU powering my fileserver and esx server from solar power (12V battery) so i know them well, excellent choice!.

I think the cards are waay to close together, what temps are you getting when mining?, my first rig was like that with the cards very close together and the cards runs so hot that i had to modify them, now i use them 9Cm appart with a 90mm fan between every card to prevent that the heat from one GPU goes to the next.

i thought about using high power fans to force airflow and prevent this, but the power usage of those fans convince me not to do it.

I have like 20 , NIDEC server fans 7000 RPM PWM controlled, at full power they draw 1.2Amps at 12V its a lot of power!!, i will need at least three fans for every rig of 6 cards so it's a lot of amps !!!!!!!!

tihs post should be sticky, the amount of good info here is fantastic!

indkt

[philipma1957]

I have a semi-related question. I ordered a 1700 watt PSU and in the reviews, one guy said to plug it into the wall, not a surge protector. He said his first one burnt up because of that. However, the warranty on my GPU units does not cover power surges. I'd hate to risk that much. What do you do, surge protector direct from wall?

If I can get my electricity price issues worked out I will scale up, but I may need an electrician to put some high capacity plugs in.

do yourself a favor install a whole house surge protector

https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/88568/LEV-511201.html?


it installs next to your  circuit panel

Just to be clear to all. A typical house is single phase power. I assume this device
is good for 200 amp service as such. (My house is 100 amp).

Does this need to be mounted on the main panel or can it be on a sub panel (60 amp) that is
correctly grounded (100 amp 8 slot neutral grounding screw removed, so it is grounded through
the main 100 amp panel? Long shot someone knows this, just tossing it out there.)

Anyway, just to clarify the instructions below. (Easier question for those who have one)

https://a89b8e4143ca50438f09-7c1706ba3fabeeda794725d88e4f5e57.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/spec_sheets/files/000/022/733/original/leviton-51120-1-installation-instructions.pdf?1442945250


Is it really that easy to put in? Ground wire/Neutral/2 20 amp breakers?
And this is it? Your whole 100 amp or 200 amp house 🏡 panel protected with
this surge protecter whole house device?

For those interested installation instructions above. I did put in sub panel for
my KNC Titans. Just double checking to be clear on this too, from any who put
this device in.

Thanks

yes it is easy.  it is not prefect as it prevents surges  passing through the panel into your home but the surge started in your home it does not help.

outside >>>   panel >> whole house protection >>>>>>   all wire in the home

So  if some how  you do something wrong in the home no protection   since the surge is on the unprotected side .

a really big UPS  in side your home that fails  can do this.


Your idea of having it in the 60amp secondary panel  looks good.

but  get 2 of them.  one on the main panel  one on the sub panel.

Should be better.  and shop for a better price.  I got mine for 109.99 from lowes on a sale  5 years ago.

[yun9999]

@Marvell1 - Yes, server cases w Rack are more expensive and time consuming to build.  However servicing it shouldn't be that bad.   If you have slide rail, you just slide out the rig, don't screw the top cover, slide it out, recede PCI-E cable.  If we use Quality PSU, there shouldn't be much we need to do with that.  I actually use non slide rails and even with that, I can still pull them 75% out and be able to receded the cables easily.  The benefit of these server cases far outweigh the expense and initial 1 time crazy labor efforts as the heat management is much easier.  I simply cannot scale beyond 250 GPUs in my garage even with the help of a Swamp cooler.  Had 1 and that SWAMP was a @#$@%$ to maintain due to my Houston's HARD water.  I can easily do over 400 GPUs with my current design in the server rack as I can funnel heat better. Intake is always cooler air and hot air is contained inside my heat wall.  Sexiness plus Practical.  Oooh La La.............

@Phillip - If I have 3 Panel, do I need 3 of those whole house surge protector?  I have 2 x 200 AMP outdoor panel and 1 x 200 AMP indoor panel.

@Induktor - 1.2AMP at 12V is only 14.4Watts not regular 120/240V AMPs counted / consumed.  The Scythe and Hawkfish007 fans uses less than 9W each so 3 of them are around 24-27W. The effectiveness of them makes it worth every watts.  Wait until you see my Heat test and how I "bake" every rig for a week before putting them into production.  The effectiveness of these fans are incredible in the server case.  Just look at most people with open air rack filled with box fans which consumes 50-110W each.   Houston Heat.........it's a must.