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Question: Should Trump have frozen Immigration ?
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No - 22 (48.9%)
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January 29, 2017, 01:39:07 AM
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America does not have any immigrants.

The country belongs to the Native Americans. They were invaded and nearly wiped out. The people were invaders and since then anyone going over there are reinforcements.

Perhaps Trump doesn't need anymore reinforcements.
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January 29, 2017, 02:11:55 AM
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So.. do you all think his immigration executive decision was good ?
I think it was stupid behavior.. with more to come of course  Roll Eyes

Yeah, Trump is doing excellent..
Everyone said that he would never actually do what he said he was going to do..

Trump has done more things that he promised campaigning in like 2 weeks than obama did in 8 years..
Thanks to Trump, things are looking good..

The last thing we need are dependent immigrants that are completely incompatible with democracy and freedom, and want to kill us..

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January 29, 2017, 05:05:26 AM
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Trump and the Republicans are hypocrites...more each day. Trump does not do what he says, let me provide some examples:

  • He once said that the CIA couldn't be trusted, however this week he said he loves the CIA
  • He once claimed Obama was abusing his power by issuing Executive Orders, yet Trump has issued more Executive Orders this week than Obama
  • He declared that muslim immigration should be halted, but hasn't applied that Executive Order to immigrants coming from countries where he has business dealings (Saudi, UAE, Turkey, Azerbaijan, etc.)
  • He said he'd "drain the swamp" but has filled his cabinet with friends and family, most of whom are billionaires
  • He said he would fund his own campaign, yet he accepted loads of donations
  • He originally said he was for the withdrawal of troops in Iraq, until Obama made the same decision and Trump infamously insisted we must stay

I could share more.

Majority of these immigrants are dependent on nothing more than a community that's not in the middle of war.

Life will be worse under Trump. Especially when he starts taxing all the imports Americans buy...the middle-America folks that voted for him won't be able to afford anything anymore (and they still won't have their jobs).

The US economy has skyrocketed under Obama. It's fact...not opinion. http://www.factcheck.org/2015/01/obamas-numbers-january-2015-update/ (P.S. The only reason users of food stamps has gone up is because Obama expanded the program to cover people that earn more money than the law previously allowed, thus not an indicator of personal economic downturn.)

So.. do you all think his immigration executive decision was good ?
I think it was stupid behavior.. with more to come of course  Roll Eyes

Yeah, Trump is doing excellent..
Everyone said that he would never actually do what he said he was going to do..

Trump has done more things that he promised campaigning in like 2 weeks than obama did in 8 years..
Thanks to Trump, things are looking good..

The last thing we need are dependent immigrants that are completely incompatible with democracy and freedom, and want to kill us..

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January 29, 2017, 10:24:27 AM
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Individuals should be allowed to accept refugees at their own expense and responsibility. The sponsor pays the entire cost of resettlement along with upkeep costs, and if the refugees are found guilty of any wrongdoings, their sponsor is also guilty of the same wrongdoings, until the time that the refugee is able to pay their own way and become a productive member of society through normal immigration procedures.

That is solely why Trump freezes immigration. Since it is costly, imagine a country using the public tax to be spent on alien immigrants and in huge value. If those funds are spent on welfare then the public tax will really play its role. Its not bad to cater immigrants but a huge number of immigrants to be supported by the government is too much. Probably Trump wanted to establish more policies to uplift the economy before accepting immigrants.

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January 29, 2017, 10:48:27 AM
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Trump probably forgot that America was built by immigrants. There is no ethnic American. On the contrary America is always created good conditions for life and realize their potential for immigrants. That is what made America great.
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January 29, 2017, 01:52:26 PM
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Trump probably forgot that America was built by immigrants. There is no ethnic American. On the contrary America is always created good conditions for life and realize their potential for immigrants. That is what made America great.

The US was built by legal immigrants. These immigrants applied for the citizenship and received them. They served in the army and paid taxes to the American treasury. The Mexicans on the other hand are illegal immigrants, who don't pay any tax.

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January 31, 2017, 07:16:35 PM
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Here's The Real Deal In A Nutshell, Fellow Americans...





Agencies within the United States Government will begin withholding federal grant funds from those cities, and additional actions to enforce federal immigration law will be taken soon.

Unlike Obama, President Trump is not trying to making new laws by executive decree. In his Executive Order, the president is only reminding mayors and governors of existing federal law dating to 1996:

U.S. Code › Title 8 › Chapter 12 › Subchapter II › Part IX › § 1373

8 U.S. Code § 1373 – Communication between government agencies and the Immigration and Naturalization Service:

Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, a Federal, State, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual.


Read more at http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=67766.


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February 01, 2017, 12:24:37 AM
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countries have the right to decide who comes and goes, but it's madness that this applies to visa and green card holders. anyone who knows anything about america knows that that's not a simple thing to get.

and while we're here, why the hell ain't they banning saudis and pakistanis? they're just as much of a threat to westerners as the other countries nominated.

DAMN DID WE FORGET SOMEBODY?

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February 01, 2017, 03:45:09 AM
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countries have the right to decide who comes and goes, but it's madness that this applies to visa and green card holders. anyone who knows anything about america knows that that's not a simple thing to get.

and while we're here, why the hell ain't they banning saudis and pakistanis? they're just as much of a threat to westerners as the other countries nominated.

DAMN DID WE FORGET SOMEBODY?

Smiley

The Saudis can't be banned, because a considerable portion of the American federal debt is owned by them. And Pakistan is the most important ally of the United States in South Asia. And don't forget that it is a nuclear power.

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February 01, 2017, 07:35:48 AM
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countries have the right to decide who comes and goes, but it's madness that this applies to visa and green card holders. anyone who knows anything about america knows that that's not a simple thing to get.

and while we're here, why the hell ain't they banning saudis and pakistanis? they're just as much of a threat to westerners as the other countries nominated.

DAMN DID WE FORGET SOMEBODY?

Smiley

The Saudis can't be banned, because a considerable portion of the American federal debt is owned by them. And Pakistan is the most important ally of the United States in South Asia. And don't forget that it is a nuclear power.

I was joking.  The US relation with both Saudi and Pakistan is complex.

"With friends like those who needs enemies?"

lol...
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February 01, 2017, 10:09:26 AM
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I was joking.  The US relation with both Saudi and Pakistan is complex.

"With friends like those who needs enemies?"

lol...

Yes.. it is complex. If the Americans refuse to sanction funds to Pakistan, then the other super-powers (especially China and Russia, may be Iran as well) will move in to fill the void. Also, if the Americans want to launch an attack on Iran, the Pakistani province of Balochestan will be the best location for it. 

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February 01, 2017, 10:29:03 AM
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I think that Trump has a plan, or he is doing something. We cannot accuse him, because we do not what is his main idea, or what he will going to do? We should follow him, or we should know what is his ideas or plan to be. Immigration being frozen, a lot of question would be? Is there anything in immigration? And why Trump freezes immigration ?

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February 01, 2017, 11:57:17 AM
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I think that Trump has a plan, or he is doing something. We cannot accuse him, because we do not what is his main idea, or what he will going to do? We should follow him, or we should know what is his ideas or plan to be. Immigration being frozen, a lot of question would be? Is there anything in immigration? And why Trump freezes immigration ?

Here's his statement about it.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/29/president-donald-j-trump-statement-regarding-recent-executive-order

“America is a proud nation of immigrants and we will continue to show compassion to those fleeing oppression, but we will do so while protecting our own citizens and border. America has always been the land of the free and home of the brave. We will keep it free and keep it safe, as the media knows, but refuses to say. My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months. The seven countries named in the Executive Order are the same countries previously identified by the Obama administration as sources of terror. To be clear, this is not a Muslim ban, as the media is falsely reporting. This is not about religion - this is about terror and keeping our country safe. There are over 40 different countries worldwide that are majority Muslim that are not affected by this order. We will again be issuing visas to all countries once we are sure we have reviewed and implemented the most secure policies over the next 90 days. I have tremendous feeling for the people involved in this horrific humanitarian crisis in Syria. My first priority will always be to protect and serve our country, but as President I will find ways to help all those who are suffering.”
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February 01, 2017, 12:03:50 PM
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I think that Trump has a plan, or he is doing something. We cannot accuse him, because we do not what is his main idea, or what he will going to do? We should follow him, or we should know what is his ideas or plan to be. Immigration being frozen, a lot of question would be? Is there anything in immigration? And why Trump freezes immigration ?
But if Trump will jump down from the roof of his trump tower you will also follow? I don't think so. Are you sure that Trump is not a spy of Putin? Or just crazy? It now destroys all the principles of the existence of America. Not afraid that America will collapse?
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I think that Trump has a plan, or he is doing something. We cannot accuse him, because we do not what is his main idea, or what he will going to do? We should follow him, or we should know what is his ideas or plan to be. Immigration being frozen, a lot of question would be? Is there anything in immigration? And why Trump freezes immigration ?
But if Trump will jump down from the roof of his trump tower you will also follow? I don't think so. Are you sure that Trump is not a spy of Putin? Or just crazy? It now destroys all the principles of the existence of America. Not afraid that America will collapse?

No, nope, nay.
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February 02, 2017, 12:12:59 AM
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countries have the right to decide who comes and goes, but it's madness that this applies to visa and green card holders. anyone who knows anything about america knows that that's not a simple thing to get.

and while we're here, why the hell ain't they banning saudis and pakistanis? they're just as much of a threat to westerners as the other countries nominated.

DAMN DID WE FORGET SOMEBODY?

Smiley

The Saudis can't be banned, because a considerable portion of the American federal debt is owned by them. And Pakistan is the most important ally of the United States in South Asia. And don't forget that it is a nuclear power.
The existence of nuclear weapons doesn't bother me. It might bother if it were in the same hands, and so it is a useless toy. Saudi Arabia can make quite a big trouble for America's economy.
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February 02, 2017, 02:20:03 AM
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More people are in favor of Trump's travel ban than against - who've answered this poll.

I wonder where the people that are in favor of the travel ban are from? What Continent? Which Countries? Developed countries or developing countries.

This information may tell us something interesting.

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February 02, 2017, 02:28:38 AM
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More people are in favor of Trump's travel ban than against - who've answered this poll.

I wonder where the people that are in favor of the travel ban are from? What Continent? Which Countries? Developed countries or developing countries.

This information may tell us something interesting.
Well let me be the first to tell you because i ain't scared of no mf..I am in favour of ban and i am from the UK..
So that's 1 vote Wink

TO MUCH ISLAM..

Now i know what the Japanese must of felt like when Christianity hit there shores..

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WINSTON CHURCHILL..Own words..

While these words were written when he was only 25-years-old (in 1899), they serve as a prophetic warning to Western civilization today.

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism (Islam) lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.”

Churchill apparently witnessed the same phenomenon in several places he visited. “The effects are apparent in many countries: improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.”

He saw the temporal and the eternal tainted by their belief system. “A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity,” he wrote.

The second-class status of women also grated at the young officer. “The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men,” he noted.

“Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.”

If a ban on hate speech comes to affect get everyone to sign a petition to change the law they must change if most of the people want it changed..

The people say what laws we want to rule us NOT SOME SNOBBY LITTLE SHIT..

Just remember secret service army police ..You are the first on the front line?..
Make sure your not there to line your bosses pockets or some elite or politicians pockets..
So they used you like a PAWN on a chess board..

And also it's your children who have to live in this world that the elite are trying to make..
YOU MEAN NOTHING..You are my sons and daughters on the front line..

I want you on the front line to save your country I.E YOUR HOME Wink and nothing else ..
Not to line some toffs pocket because he makes rockets and wants to use them so we the tax payer can buy more..

Lord Ricketts, permanent secretary from 2006-2010, slammed planned visit of Mr Trump.
In public letter, he said Theresa May had put Queen in 'very difficult position'
It has now emerged he is adviser to Lockheed Martin, which took financial hit
Last week, Trump announced contract was slashed by $600million (£478m


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In December 2015 the Foreign and Commonwealth Office announced that he was to retire from the Diplomatic Service in January 2016.[4]

Prior to his appointment as National Security Adviser, Lord Ricketts had been the Permanent Secretary in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office. Before he took over that position in July 2006, he served as the Permanent Representative to NATO in Brussels. He was also previously the Chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee, leading him to give evidence to The Iraq Inquiry in November 2009.[5] He began his career in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in 1974 and served as the Assistant Private Secretary to former Foreign Secretary Sir Geoffrey Howe. Apart from Brussels, he has been posted to Singapore, Washington D.C. and Paris. Ricketts retired from HM Diplomatic Service in January 201


Now do you see politicians selling weapons for their friends..
And the secret service army put themselves on the front line..
Yes they pay your top ranking bosses the BACKHANDERS Wink..And then they put you on the front line..

But you could be my son or daughter they are doing this to..
Now instead of going out to risk your lives once a year you are risking your lives 10 times a year to line someones pockets..And not your pockets and you are the one who put your lives in danger..
HOW MUCH IS YOUR LIFE WORTH..
Now ask your boss how much your life is worth Wink..
To me it's worth as much as any man or women on this planet..
But does your boss think so?..
 
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February 02, 2017, 04:13:22 AM
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The existence of nuclear weapons doesn't bother me. It might bother if it were in the same hands, and so it is a useless toy. Saudi Arabia can make quite a big trouble for America's economy.

It is always risky, considering the relationship which some of these top Pakistani officials have with Al Qaeda / ISIS. There is no guarantee that these guys will not provide the ISIS with nuclear technology, if not nuclear weapons or enriched Uranium.

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February 02, 2017, 12:48:09 PM
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The existence of nuclear weapons doesn't bother me. It might bother if it were in the same hands, and so it is a useless toy. Saudi Arabia can make quite a big trouble for America's economy.

It is always risky, considering the relationship which some of these top Pakistani officials have with Al Qaeda / ISIS. There is no guarantee that these guys will not provide the ISIS with nuclear technology, if not nuclear weapons or enriched Uranium.
Why do we need Pakistan? Do you think that the President of Pakistan does not understand that you cannot give a monkey a grenade? In addition, the content of the application and maintenance of nuclear weapons is very expensive and difficult.


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