Trump: safe zones for syria; imminent us-russian war?

[criptix]

Trump wants to create safe zones in syria which directly means that the US will have to create no fly zones and send in ground forces.
Putin already answered that russia will in no way accept a no fly zone.

This is the exact thing why people didnt wanted to vote hillary.
Trump seems to do it now.

Discuss.

[notech]

I think they will meet at some middle point

[the rise]

I see this happening is only a kind of two people who were taking sympathy from syria, to create a scenario as if they had been enemies. The goal remains the same, just want to colonize the country as a whole. there is always a political deal about what is happening.

In business we recognize this term as a monopoly.

[BADecker]

Trump's First Big Mistake

The text of a draft executive order on "Protecting the Nation From Terrorist Attacks From Foreign Nationals," expected to be signed by President Trump, which deals primarily with excluding citizens of selected countries from entering the United States, includes what may be the biggest mistake the newly elected President will ever make:

"Sec. 6. Establishment of Safe Zones to Protect Vulnerable Syrian Populations. Pursuant to the cessation of refugee processing for Syrian nationals, the Secretary of State, in conjunction with the Secretary of Defense, is directed within 90 days of the date of this order to produce a plan to provide safe areas in Syria and in the surrounding region in which Syrian nationals displaced from their homeland can await firm settlement, such as repatriation or potential third-country resettlement."

Read more at http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/01/26/trumps-first-big-mistake/.

[malcovixeffect]

I think they will meet at some middle point

they will meet when they control those war-torn countries

[HabBear]

Trump is an idiot. Trump is full of shit. Trump is just another politician.

He uses incorrect facts when trying to justify his actions, which is ridiculous because he doesn't actually need much justification...he's President. Yet he confirms his low intelligence when he cites facts incorrectly to support his crazy ideas. He said he was going to change things yet he continues to do the same shit that other politicians have done.

Whatever he promises or proposes today could very well be the opposite tomorrow.

[GreenBits]

Trump is an idiot. Trump is full of shit. Trump is just another politician.

He uses incorrect facts when trying to justify his actions, which is ridiculous because he doesn't actually need much justification...he's President. Yet he confirms his low intelligence when he cites facts incorrectly to support his crazy ideas. He said he was going to change things yet he continues to do the same shit that other politicians have done.

Whatever he promises or proposes today could very well be the opposite tomorrow.

I didn't blame that you hate Trump decisions.He make some regulations than can favor to America but I think his regulations is not will be favor to the non American living in USA like the Green card regulations that he announced.

[tvbcof]

Agree.  Biggest Trump mistake so far unless he's working a deeper plan which is possible so I'll wait and see.  We should get the fuck out of Syria and forget that the place ever existed.

Now in Mexico the policy might make sense.  A farther looking policy would be to make Southern CA the 'sanctuary' zone where all illegals go, then 'make it Mexico again.'  The whole place is a nothing but trouble.  No water and mostly inhabited by brain-dead freaks.  Why waste the energy trying to turn it around when failure is a near certainty?

[HabBear]

Thanks. The only thing he can do that would be good for all Americans is lowering taxes across the board - which he's said (many times) that he'll do and I have no doubt he'll follow through. The Republicans own the government and they all want lower taxes. The best part is that lower taxes will actually help Americans and the economy. More money in pockets (usually) ends up getting spent (not saved). And spending is what gets an economy to grow...it's the engine of capitalism.

Trump is an idiot. Trump is full of shit. Trump is just another politician.

He uses incorrect facts when trying to justify his actions, which is ridiculous because he doesn't actually need much justification...he's President. Yet he confirms his low intelligence when he cites facts incorrectly to support his crazy ideas. He said he was going to change things yet he continues to do the same shit that other politicians have done.

Whatever he promises or proposes today could very well be the opposite tomorrow.

I didn't blame that you hate Trump decisions.He make some regulations than can favor to America but I think his regulations is not will be favor to the non American living in USA like the Green card regulations that he announced.

[Silberman]

Agree.  Biggest Trump mistake so far unless he's working a deeper plan which is possible so I'll wait and see.  We should get the fuck out of Syria and forget that the place ever existed.

Now in Mexico the policy might make sense.  A farther looking policy would be to make Southern CA the 'sanctuary' zone where all illegals go, then 'make it Mexico again.'  The whole place is a nothing but trouble.  No water and mostly inhabited by brain-dead freaks.  Why waste the energy trying to turn it around when failure is a near certainty?

No country is going to give up land that easily,especially the united states, so don’t hold your breath waiting for California to become Mexican territory again.

[JofryTheKing]

Agree.  Biggest Trump mistake so far unless he's working a deeper plan which is possible so I'll wait and see.  We should get the fuck out of Syria and forget that the place ever existed.

Now in Mexico the policy might make sense.  A farther looking policy would be to make Southern CA the 'sanctuary' zone where all illegals go, then 'make it Mexico again.'  The whole place is a nothing but trouble.  No water and mostly inhabited by brain-dead freaks.  Why waste the energy trying to turn it around when failure is a near certainty?

No country is going to give up land that easily,especially the united states, so don’t hold your breath waiting for California to become Mexican territory again.

California will never become Mexican territory. I even doubt that California will leave the structure of America, but the crisis can push politicians to impeachment Trump. I hope it will happen soon.

[BCEmporium]

Prophets of Apocalypse... as always.
Hey, don't even think you're new around, this has been like this since antiquity, way before the Bible or the Jews.
He didn't say he wanted to create safe zones for ISIS, Al-Nusra or the other Obama-planted terrorist groups there.

[00hash01]

Prophets of Apocalypse... as always.
Hey, don't even think you're new around, this has been like this since antiquity, way before the Bible or the Jews.
He didn't say he wanted to create safe zones for ISIS, Al-Nusra or the other Obama-planted terrorist groups there.

How can you be so sure that ISIS was created by Obama? Why not Putin? Or, for example, both can use ISIS for their own purposes. It seems to me that Trump provokes a war in the middle East without realizing the consequences.

[Sithara007]

Trump will create safe zones in the Raqqa province, which is mostly controlled by the ISIS and Turkey. These zones will be located on the Turkish border. Millions of refugees will be hosted there, and the European migrant crisis will be resolved.

[BCEmporium]

I didn't said Obama created ISIS, but FSA and similar groups.

[Sithara007]

I didn't said Obama created ISIS, but FSA and similar groups.

Most of the FSA groups have defected either to the ISIS, or towards the Jabhat Al Nusra (Syrian branch of the Al Qaeda). And the worst part is that when they defected, they took their American-supplied weapons with them.

[noel2123]

Most of use are always thinking that President Trump of United states have an evil side. For me, I think, this is not that kind of evil side, but it is like how he manage or rule the United States. We see how he is criticizing everyone or every country, this how he manage as president. We do not know what is his plans, ideas and knowledge on how he can handle or manage as president of the United States

[tvbcof]

Turkey is a NATO member who willingly hosted vast numbers of these 'immigrants'.  Seems that they mostly volunteered their land as a staging and sorting area, and training ground, to inject them and their gear into other countries for strategic operations.  Some went to Europe and others to Syria and Iraq.  Turkish troops have also entered Syria and Iraq and as far as I know, are still there.

Seems to me that an appropriate 'safe zone' would be the Kurdish areas of Turkey more than anything.  If it meant kicking Turkey out of NATO first that would be 'oh soooo sad.'

Jordan also volunteered some of their territory for use by the CIA/Mosad as they enlisted jihadis from all over the area.  IIRC, in one of the wikileaks mails Hillary herself said that it was impossible or unfair for Jordan to take these people because they were 'impossible to vet'.  So I guess they have to go to Germany and Sweden instead.

I cannot say that I am terribly disappointed that Trump plans to vet them properly before they come to the U.S..

[Sithara007]

Turkey is a NATO member who willingly hosted vast numbers of these 'immigrants'.  Seems that they mostly volunteered their land as a staging and sorting area, and training ground, to inject them and their gear into other countries for strategic operations.  Some went to Europe and others to Syria and Iraq.  Turkish troops have also entered Syria and Iraq and as far as I know, are still there.

Seems to me that an appropriate 'safe zone' would be the Kurdish areas of Turkey more than anything.  If it meant kicking Turkey out of NATO first that would be 'oh soooo sad.'

Jordan also volunteered some of their territory for use by the CIA/Mosad as they enlisted jihadis from all over the area.  IIRC, in one of the wikileaks mails Hillary herself said that it was impossible or unfair for Jordan to take these people because they were 'impossible to vet'.  So I guess they have to go to Germany and Sweden instead.

I cannot say that I am terribly disappointed that Trump plans to vet them properly before they come to the U.S..

Turkey should be kicked out of the NATO and it should be replaced with Kurdistan. Why is a backstabber like Turkey remaining in the NATO? Along with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Turkey remains one of the top sponsors of the ISIS.

[icecube45]

Safe zone in Syria is indeed makes the relationship between the US and Russia heats up. Because the safety zone requires protection of ground troops is something that may not be approved by the Syrian government and its supporters, Moscow and Tehran. Not easy to do this, there should be diplomacy and this would be the length can even continue occurrence of war.