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April 18, 2013, 06:47:53 PM |
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Is nobody but me shocked, that he admits to have been driving while on Acid? Is an accident victim less dead because the other driver was sober? It's less likely that there is an accident at all. That's just the point. But an accident did not occur. That's the point. No person is harmed as a result of his actions, and if someone had been, they would be no less or more harmed if he had been sober. That's exactly the same argumentation I could use for driving with my eyes closed if I actually make it to my destination. It's just unnecessary danger you force on other people. By that logic, simply getting on the road in the car is unnecessary danger you're forcing on other people.
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April 18, 2013, 06:59:58 PM |
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By that logic, simply getting on the road in the car is unnecessary danger you're forcing on other people.
Everyone knows (or at least should know) that driving is dangerous. You risk you live and the lives of others every time you step into a car. But there is a basically an agreement between all participants to stick to certain rules, like only driving on a given speed in certain areas (we have f.e. areas with no speed limit at all, when I enter them I know on what I'm about to participate (ever driven 230 dank? )), have you car checked for defects each two years, have you lights on at night, not drive while high, etc. Driving while high breaks one of this agreement and it's not like you are forced to drive, if you don't like this than don't participate. Doing it anyway is just irresponsible.
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April 18, 2013, 07:00:16 PM |
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Hey look, I found an image of dank.
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myrkul
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April 18, 2013, 07:07:54 PM |
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By that logic, simply getting on the road in the car is unnecessary danger you're forcing on other people.
Everyone knows (or at least should know) that driving is dangerous. You risk you live and the lives of others every time you step into a car. Exactly. If you are not willing to accept that risk, then you should not get on the road. People drive intoxicated, high, tired, with bald tires, etc, all the time. Drive (or not) accordingly.
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April 18, 2013, 07:10:33 PM |
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By that logic, simply getting on the road in the car is unnecessary danger you're forcing on other people.
Everyone knows (or at least should know) that driving is dangerous. You risk you live and the lives of others every time you step into a car. Exactly. If you are not willing to accept that risk, then you should not get on the road. People drive intoxicated, high, tired, with bald tires, etc, all the time. Drive (or not) accordingly. I wish they'd give licenses to speed and special lanes for it as well. That'd be a tax I wouldn't mind paying.
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April 18, 2013, 07:26:41 PM |
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They can't pull us all over if we all speed.
Unawareness is the only danger when driving. Plenty of studies show that drivers are less likely to get in an accident while high on cannabis, you drive safer.
Speeding isn't dangerous if you're aware, only of you're not.
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April 18, 2013, 07:30:54 PM |
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By that logic, simply getting on the road in the car is unnecessary danger you're forcing on other people.
Everyone knows (or at least should know) that driving is dangerous. You risk you live and the lives of others every time you step into a car. Exactly. If you are not willing to accept that risk, then you should not get on the road. People drive intoxicated, high, tired, with bald tires, etc, all the time. Drive (or not) accordingly. I wish they'd give licenses to speed and special lanes for it as well. That'd be a tax I wouldn't mind paying. If there where extra lanes for driving high I would be perfectly OK with it, than I would know what I'm getting at when entering them. Even in a stateless society where roads would be privately owned, there would be certain rules applied to driving (like a sign "With entering this road you agree to drive by the Standard driving rules, as can be found here [QR-Code]). But besides, take it as you will, butting this extra danger on other people only for you one convenience is IMO still morally weak.
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April 18, 2013, 07:42:07 PM |
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By that logic, simply getting on the road in the car is unnecessary danger you're forcing on other people.
Everyone knows (or at least should know) that driving is dangerous. You risk you live and the lives of others every time you step into a car. Exactly. If you are not willing to accept that risk, then you should not get on the road. People drive intoxicated, high, tired, with bald tires, etc, all the time. Drive (or not) accordingly. I wish they'd give licenses to speed and special lanes for it as well. That'd be a tax I wouldn't mind paying. If there where extra lanes for driving high I would be perfectly OK with it, than I would know what I'm getting at when entering them.Even in a stateless society where roads would be privately owned, there would be certain rules applied to driving (like a sign "With entering this road you agree to drive by the Standard driving rules, as can be found here [QR-Code]). But besides, take it as you will, butting this extra danger on other people only for you one convenience is IMO still morally weak. Because intoxicated people are world renowned for their ability to stick to their lane? Also, lol, making people point and shoot a cell at a moving target, then reading a lengthy TOS while driving.
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April 18, 2013, 07:45:46 PM |
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By that logic, simply getting on the road in the car is unnecessary danger you're forcing on other people.
Everyone knows (or at least should know) that driving is dangerous. You risk you live and the lives of others every time you step into a car. Exactly. If you are not willing to accept that risk, then you should not get on the road. People drive intoxicated, high, tired, with bald tires, etc, all the time. Drive (or not) accordingly. I wish they'd give licenses to speed and special lanes for it as well. That'd be a tax I wouldn't mind paying. If there where extra lanes for driving high I would be perfectly OK with it, than I would know what I'm getting at when entering them.Even in a stateless society where roads would be privately owned, there would be certain rules applied to driving (like a sign "With entering this road you agree to drive by the Standard driving rules, as can be found here [QR-Code]). But besides, take it as you will, butting this extra danger on other people only for you one convenience is IMO still morally weak. Because intoxicated people are world renowned for their ability to stick to their lane? Also, lol, making people point and shoot a cell at a moving target, then reading a lengthy TOS while driving. Edit: Somehow messed up something with the quotes Message: Let's not get this into a pointless discussion about details, you understood what I was getting at.
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kentrolla
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April 18, 2013, 08:00:41 PM |
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I think I understand. I know I'm morally strong. There are different levels of danger and with peace and understanding we can make this world a safer place.
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April 18, 2013, 08:43:28 PM |
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It's only your perspective, I feel safer driving high. I've gotten in 3 accidents sober, one high. And yes, I drove high most of the time.
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April 18, 2013, 08:45:43 PM |
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Plenty of studies show that drivers are less likely to get in an accident while high on cannabis, you drive safer.
Source?
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April 18, 2013, 08:55:30 PM |
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myrkul, I don't doubt what you're saying, especially if it's coming from your own experiences, what I doubt is what dank is saying which was literally:
Plenty of studies show that drivers are less likely to get in an accident while high on cannabis
I'd like to see even one of those studies.
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myrkul
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April 18, 2013, 09:01:00 PM |
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myrkul, I don't doubt what you're saying, especially if it's coming from your own experiences, what I doubt is what dank is saying which was literally:
Plenty of studies show that drivers are less likely to get in an accident while high on cannabis
I'd like to see even one of those studies.
Relative to alcohol, see the second study. Relative to sober, however, I doubt. Unless you're really friggin' nervous, and a little of the ganj calms you down. Given the choice of driving next to a drunk, a stoner, an all-nighter, or a road-rager, I'll pick the stoner. He's simultaneously calm and paranoid, two things which are very important for safe driving. (A calm, paranoid, sober driver would probably be better, though)
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April 18, 2013, 09:05:56 PM |
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myrkul, I don't doubt what you're saying, especially if it's coming from your own experiences, what I doubt is what dank is saying which was literally:
Plenty of studies show that drivers are less likely to get in an accident while high on cannabis
I'd like to see even one of those studies.
Relative to alcohol, see the second study. Relative to sober, however, I doubt. Unless you're really friggin' nervous, and a little of the ganj calms you down. Given the choice of driving next to a drunk, a stoner, an all-nighter, or a road-rager, I'll pick the stoner. He's simultaneously calm and paranoid, two things which are very important for safe driving. (A calm, paranoid, sober driver would probably be better, though) This is the point I was missing apparently. I hadn't seen where Dank agreed that driving *sober* is proven safest. As an ex-pilot, a drifter, and a motorcycle owner, I can say I absolutely cannot understand a lack of sobriety in people while operating a vehicle at fast speeds. It's not "fun" or "adventurous". It's unnecessarily reckless, like not wearing a helmet or eye protection (preferably full face helmet) on a motorcycle. It only takes one beetle or pebble to the face at 120mph to realize that one.
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April 18, 2013, 09:06:37 PM |
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Let's not get this into a pointless discussion about details, you understood what I was getting at.
That you are full of hilariously idiotic ideas? myrkul, I don't doubt what you're saying, especially if it's coming from your own experiences, what I doubt is what dank is saying which was literally:
Plenty of studies show that drivers are less likely to get in an accident while high on cannabis
I'd like to see even one of those studies.
Oh god, you just opened up a Pandora's Box of stupid. He'll quote the abstract from whatever studies he finds more or less support his delusions and will defend that interpretation as the word of god. Oh right, he's god now too.
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April 18, 2013, 09:16:47 PM |
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God and Jesus are just states of mind. I have experienced both. While sober.
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April 18, 2013, 09:18:41 PM |
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God and Jesus are just states of mind. I have experienced both. While sober.
Blowjobs are great, aren't they?
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April 18, 2013, 09:23:37 PM |
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Let's not get this into a pointless discussion about details, you understood what I was getting at.
That you are full of hilariously idiotic ideas? myrkul, I don't doubt what you're saying, especially if it's coming from your own experiences, what I doubt is what dank is saying which was literally:
Plenty of studies show that drivers are less likely to get in an accident while high on cannabis
I'd like to see even one of those studies.
Oh god, you just opened up a Pandora's Box of stupid. He'll quote the abstract from whatever studies he finds more or less support his delusions and will defend that interpretation as the word of god. Oh right, he's god now too. Like the government does?
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