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February 02, 2017, 04:18:18 AM
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I missed the train.. Seems it's hard to find block with my 5 480 gpu.. Big miner dominated the Blocks!


Don't worry even right after launch there was a bug that allowed miners to steal mined coins from a wallet and claim the block.  I checked every block I mined and all of them were awarded to 2 miners.  Talk about a let down.  1 miner got 6 and another got 1.

So really in the end....it's always the people with large mining farms that ruin the fun. 



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February 02, 2017, 04:27:23 AM
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I think it needs to download the wallet again, at least learn a little bit how to send pascal, I've encountered an error when sending it from cryptopia to poloniex

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February 02, 2017, 05:00:08 AM
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I missed the train.. Seems it's hard to find block with my 5 480 gpu.. Big miner dominated the Blocks!
You need to believe!  Cheesy

You should be able to find a block every 2-3 hours. The GPU scene has gotten crazy indeed though, this kontik guy must have 100 miners running with 3+ GPUs judging by the names...

Hashrate is rising incredibly fast, 53GH right now, half an hour ago it was 32GH.

Shame that people think they should suck the fun out of shit coins! LOL

70 GH for just a copy coin is pretty crazy, they will get tired of wasting that hash though.

Thought it would be fun to mine a few blocks for fun, but I will check back later.
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February 02, 2017, 05:09:56 AM
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I missed the train.. Seems it's hard to find block with my 5 480 gpu.. Big miner dominated the Blocks!
You need to believe!  Cheesy

You should be able to find a block every 2-3 hours. The GPU scene has gotten crazy indeed though, this kontik guy must have 100 miners running with 3+ GPUs judging by the names...

Hashrate is rising incredibly fast, 53GH right now, half an hour ago it was 32GH.

Shame that people think they should suck the fun out of shit coins! LOL

70 GH for just a copy coin is pretty crazy, they will get tired of wasting that hash though.

Thought it would be fun to mine a few blocks for fun, but I will check back later.

All of those miners are cheater, they are manipulating the clock, that's why other miner don't even hit the block.. I suggest that the dev reset it again and set a restriction.. Well he said earlier that he will make it fair to all miners, why this dumbass is now dominating the solo mining.. Seems that they are only hitted the blocks..
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February 02, 2017, 06:02:45 AM
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I missed the train.. Seems it's hard to find block with my 5 480 gpu.. Big miner dominated the Blocks!
You need to believe!  Cheesy

You should be able to find a block every 2-3 hours. The GPU scene has gotten crazy indeed though, this kontik guy must have 100 miners running with 3+ GPUs judging by the names...

Hashrate is rising incredibly fast, 53GH right now, half an hour ago it was 32GH.

Shame that people think they should suck the fun out of shit coins! LOL

70 GH for just a copy coin is pretty crazy, they will get tired of wasting that hash though.

Thought it would be fun to mine a few blocks for fun, but I will check back later.

All of those miners are cheater, they are manipulating the clock, that's why other miner don't even hit the block.. I suggest that the dev reset it again and set a restriction.. Well he said earlier that he will make it fair to all miners, why this dumbass is now dominating the solo mining.. Seems that they are only hitted the blocks..

There should be a re-leaunch this kontik fool and bawahhaa bascially are eating all the blocks they have been from the start so yukky

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February 02, 2017, 07:11:52 AM
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finally found a block

but the strange thing is it says i have two blocks ? none of the miners list the blocked mined on the proxy whats up with that

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Where will wait to the exchange.
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February 02, 2017, 08:19:52 AM
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funny thing is this network is more stable for me than the pascalcoin network, nodes stay up constantly I dont see discovering servers all the time

also my latency is way lower 100 ms vs thr 200 on the pascalcoin network , thats sad actually.

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Yes these miners really took advantage of the "fair" launch. I must admit I did launch it prematurely, I wish I had another day or two to work out quirks but when "TurboPascal" launched earlier and got INSTA-mined 1000 blocks within 1 hour, I figured to launch it fairly as soon as possible. I already fixed the Genesis block issue and the "TESTNET" was very successful, no issues.

I launched at exactly 4PM EST as promised and when I launched only 13 blocks were mined. I mined 10 with different rigs to make sure it was working. The other 3 were people who managed to sneak in connecting and mined 3 blocks before the official launch, they had the test version which doesn't check for Genesis block and just cleared their APPDATA, so I shut the node down before others took advantage.

Almost all the 10 blocks that I mined in the pre-launch I donated to the miners who had issues mining their first block.

Then little did I know that the original PASCAL code has a bug that you can easily take advantage of if you got large hash power. The bug is related to this piece of code

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unixtimediff := UnivDateTimeToUnix(DateTime2UnivDateTime(Now)) - Bank.LastOperationBlock.timestamp;
  If (unixtimediff<0) then begin
    WhyNot := 'Invalid Last Block Time';
    exit;
  end;

It basically doesn't send your block to the network if your computer clock is behind the last block mined.

Whether Albert fixed this in the original version I am not sure. He added "node banning" that happens when you submit blocks according to this line

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  if Not IsValidTime(connection_ts) then begin
      DisconnectInvalidClient(false,'Invalid remote timestamp. Difference:'+inttostr(FLastKnownTimestampDiff)+' > '+inttostr(CT_MaxSecondsDifferenceOfNetworkNodes));
    end;

However the node banning wasn't tight enough to ban these miners because the blocks were still too close together. And there was a small numbers of nodes at the time. So they could of hosted a node, moved the clock up on their node and the difference would be further apart. And they knew exactly what clock to set their computer at manually to not get banned. I notice this issue when solomining the original PASCAL Coin however didn't think much of it.

Right now this is less of an issue and when the block time finally stabilizes at 300 seconds it will be a non-issue for sure. That's probably why Albert just left the original code the way it was because it was harder to perform with a larger network.

Regarding the "RELAUNCHING".

Situation is very similar to what happened to ETH during the DAO hack and with ETC being created.

As much as I would think its fair to do another relaunch, I won't for a few reasons. One being that there are a numerous amount of nodes now and I only control one of them, so even if I wanted to do a relaunch I couldn't unless most of those nodes upgraded to the new wallet with a fresh blockchain. Second is that "CODE IS LAW" ideology where even though those miner cheaters did cheat, they didn't actually do anything wrong because it was all in the code.

So even if I did try to relaunch, half the nodes might not agree and there would be a "Pascal Lite Classic" formed AND by relaunching it makes the coin not immutable which is what the basic principle of decentralized cryptocurrencies is all about.
 
I also contacted OCMiner to see if we can get a Suprnova pool going, i'll let you know if I get a reply. Since the difficulty now is higher than what PASCAL Coin's difficulty was before it got launched on Poloniex.


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February 02, 2017, 09:11:17 AM
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Its nice to see another pascal being launched.

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Yes these miners really took advantage of the "fair" launch. I must admit I did launch it prematurely, I wish I had another day or two to work out quirks but when "TurboPascal" launched earlier and got INSTA-mined 1000 blocks within 1 hour, I figured to launch it fairly as soon as possible. I already fixed the Genesis block issue and the "TESTNET" was very successful, no issues.

I launched at exactly 4PM EST as promised and when I launched only 13 blocks were mined. I mined 10 with different rigs to make sure it was working. The other 3 were people who managed to sneak in connecting and mined 3 blocks before the official launch, they had the test version which doesn't check for Genesis block and just cleared their APPDATA, so I shut the node down before others took advantage.

Almost all the 10 blocks that I mined in the pre-launch I donated to the miners who had issues mining their first block.

Then little did I know that the original PASCAL code has a bug that you can easily take advantage of if you got large hash power. The bug is related to this piece of code

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unixtimediff := UnivDateTimeToUnix(DateTime2UnivDateTime(Now)) - Bank.LastOperationBlock.timestamp;
  If (unixtimediff<0) then begin
    WhyNot := 'Invalid Last Block Time';
    exit;
  end;

It basically doesn't send your block to the network if your computer clock is behind the last block mined.

Whether Albert fixed this in the original version I am not sure. He added "node banning" that happens when you submit blocks according to this line

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  if Not IsValidTime(connection_ts) then begin
      DisconnectInvalidClient(false,'Invalid remote timestamp. Difference:'+inttostr(FLastKnownTimestampDiff)+' > '+inttostr(CT_MaxSecondsDifferenceOfNetworkNodes));
    end;

However the node banning wasn't tight enough to ban these miners because the blocks were still too close together. And there was a small numbers of nodes at the time. So they could of hosted a node, moved the clock up on their node and the difference would be further apart. And they knew exactly what clock to set their computer at manually to not get banned. I notice this issue when solomining the original PASCAL Coin however didn't think much of it.

Right now this is less of an issue and when the block time finally stabilizes at 300 seconds it will be a non-issue for sure. That's probably why Albert just left the original code the way it was because it was harder to perform with a larger network.

Regarding the "RELAUNCHING".

Situation is very similar to what happened to ETH during the DAO hack and with ETC being created.

As much as I would think its fair to do another relaunch, I won't for a few reasons. One being that there are a numerous amount of nodes now and I only control one of them, so even if I wanted to do a relaunch I couldn't unless most of those nodes upgraded to the new wallet with a fresh blockchain. Second is that "CODE IS LAW" ideology where even though those miner cheaters did cheat, they didn't actually do anything wrong because it was all in the code.

So even if I did try to relaunch, half the nodes might not agree and there would be a "Pascal Lite Classic" formed AND by relaunching it makes the coin not immutable which is what the basic principle of decentralized cryptocurrencies is all about.
 
I also contacted OCMiner to see if we can get a Suprnova pool going, i'll let you know if I get a reply. Since the difficulty now is higher than what PASCAL Coin's difficulty was before it got launched on Poloniex.



Thanks for the wrapped up explanation, where is all this hash power comining from, pascal diff is still as high as ever and moneo , eth,zcash and dcr the current hot GPU coins are holding steady

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February 02, 2017, 09:25:59 AM
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Thanks for the wrapped up explanation, where is all this hash power comining from, pascal diff is still as high as ever and moneo , eth,zcash and dcr the current hot GPU coins are holding steady

I am actually very surprised by the amount of hash power going into this coin especially since it doesn't even have an exchange.

Even though that "kontikpr" and "bahbahwp" miners are "cheating" the mining network they actually need to have LOADS of hashpower because the difficulty is CRAZY HIGH and yet they still manage to find blocks.

The last 50 blocks or so were solved almost twice as fast. The difficult now is higher than 2CAXXXXXX which means

28,587,302,322,176 or so hashes to find a block, however the blocks are getting found in twice the speed so that results in a network hashrate of about ~200,000 MHS so about ~400 GPUs or so.

Either someone thinks this coin is going to hit Poloniex again or they are mining Pascal Lite and they think its Pascal Coin.

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February 02, 2017, 09:29:02 AM
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Client show 4 block mined, dunno if some is stolen  Sad

there is my pub key   3GhhbotDmb6diiHj5i7HqArMbjKFCNtBgzLv9sVfodT6VxpYLEpeyNzYPkwSHnoBZCXJKbvW6X6ueav aFxDeoddFerDxeygXbBGLcv

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SENT. The 4 blocks mined on the client mean that even though your miner found the blocks they got rejected by the network due to a lastblock timestamp sync bug. Please read about it higher up.


Is this a right one?
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No thats the private key, erase your wallet and create a new one.

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February 02, 2017, 09:34:58 AM
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Is this a right one?
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No thats the private key, erase your wallet and create a new one.

Do you mean WalletKeys.dat?

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Should list in the exchange also so can buy and sell.
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Is this a right one?
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No thats the private key, erase your wallet and create a new one.

Do you mean WalletKeys.dat?

Yes delete your entire %APPDATA%/Pascallite directory and relaunch the wallet and you will get a new private key.

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