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February 16, 2017, 06:23:43 PM
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People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

Capitalism to me is still the best form of economic policy no matter how people paint to be bad. When some people try as much as possible to have sleepless light and later got successful then decides to change cars or live in expensive mansions then you see the community coming out to say what of the people that cannot afford one, but the issue is what were they looking when others are working hard to be successful. Thats what capitalism preaches to me that in as much you can work hard then you can be rich if luck is on your side not the economy that will restrict your growth at the expense of lazy people in the community...
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February 16, 2017, 07:24:54 PM
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People just want the branded products from abroad without thinking to develop local products. Families public officials are also doing the same thing. Let us not always think about the quality of goods from another country, you are not aware of the quality items they mostly take the raw material of our country.

If you often use foreign products and overly consumptive. unconsciously, we automatically have become the ambassadors of capitalism.

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February 20, 2017, 05:11:05 PM
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People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

There's  nothing wrong to promote local products and make proud, but it depends on the quality of the product.  Well, I can say that  in my country some products are local.  If I want to buy branded,I will go to the store relatively expensive.Those goods may satisfy human needs but those needs will not be met if people do not have sufficient money.



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February 20, 2017, 05:22:57 PM
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People just want the branded products from abroad without thinking to develop local products. Families public officials are also doing the same thing. Let us not always think about the quality of goods from another country, you are not aware of the quality items they mostly take the raw material of our country.

If you often use foreign products and overly consumptive. unconsciously, we automatically have become the ambassadors of capitalism.

You make it sound like Capitalism only exists if a Corporation is involved. This is entirely untrue. Your local shops are creating capitalism in your town or village. Capitalism starts small - one or a few businesses selling goods to their local community. The growth comes with how successful each business is and their desire to expand operations.

Capitalism is the only economic policy that creates more economic activity, naturally. One company opens up and all of a sudden you need another 2-5 companies to support it - there are product suppliers, cleaners, delivery trucks, business operations services, etc.

Capitalism is the tide that raises all ships.

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February 20, 2017, 05:37:48 PM
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People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

There's  nothing wrong to promote local products and make proud, but it depends on the quality of the product.  Well, I can say that  in my country some products are local.  If I want to buy branded,I will go to the store relatively expensive.Those goods may satisfy human needs but those needs will not be met if people do not have sufficient money.





not only quality but a large quantity, like for example in china they can make stuff in a very large quantity with very low cost, this isn't possible in many other country, and also availability, some products are not available in some country, and this force us to buy from another country, these two points are very difficult to overcome imho

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February 22, 2017, 07:08:14 PM
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Addressing wealth and wage inequality is the best means of promoting socio economic hierarchy in my opinion.

Productivity and technological gains afforded by automation are at all time highs. But the benefits do not trickle down.

Capitalism is but a scapegoat within the grand scheme of things.

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February 23, 2017, 05:32:05 PM
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You mean a free market where everything is a competition.  But how is it going to help with bitcoin? I think that is the real question here.
Well, a competitive market with online shops could be one. Those who could open up with a bitcoin transaction immediately could end up good in the future. Just like what happened now, think of those who opened up their website wallets first and been running until now. I think they have better profit than most of us here. The great think is they did take the risk and now taking the reward for that.

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February 23, 2017, 05:33:27 PM
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People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.

Capitalism has demonstrated that it is the only successful economic theory, with its competitors collapsing by the roadside over the last 100 years. Even China, which at one point was incorruptibly communist, has moved on. I think it is a bit too late to be talking about 'stopping capitalism'.
Yet, Chinese capitalism is what will be its downfall. Sure, they may be growing out of control, but perpetual growth is a myth.

They are destroying their air with polution, tons of people get killed in all sort of accidents due shitty quality on machines and all sort of products, people keep getting constricted into a life of total slavery for pathetic wages.

The only chinese doing good are the ones that make business with the western world, the wage slaves are fucked.
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February 23, 2017, 05:45:37 PM
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Capitalism makes their economic fast to capital and become successful. USA economic is fast in capital because of investors invest capital to their country and successful. Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

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People should promote local products and be proud, it would a good way to have economic progress for any country. Stopping capitalism will help to balance the socio-economic hierarchy.
promote local products is not the best way because people always be looking the best product for their needs and if local products quality still less than products from other country i think it's useless but if locals products quality more good rather than other country maybe people will considering to use it
and indirectly it will help to balance the socio-economic

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February 23, 2017, 06:18:10 PM
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Not only that it helps the business where you are buying your products. The advantages are big on both part from being nearer to the source and also having a cheaper alternative. Supporting your local brand will help the economy of the country to go big, look at South Korea know they are home for 2 big companies namely Samsung and Hyundai which continues to dominate the market in their own industries.

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February 23, 2017, 06:27:27 PM
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Those who lived or lives in the former Soviet Union, he knows the difference between socialism and capitalism. Probably many of the USSR do not want to go back.
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Those who lived or lives in the former Soviet Union, he knows the difference between socialism and capitalism. Probably many of the USSR do not want to go back.
I think you'd find people on eother side of the spectrum, a lot of former Russian Soviets would say that it was a lot better in the communist era when everything they needed was provided for.
And on the other hand you'd find a lot of people who appreciate the freedom to make as much money as you want for yourself.

OP's claims are a bit strange though, having some protectionist measures to promote the local economy doe not exclude having a capitalistic system.
Sure it may not be the purest form of capitalism = free trade worldwide without restrictions, but it's still capitalism.

Also, most countries cannot produce everything they need themselves, that's why hard-core communism will always fail.

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Those who lived or lives in the former Soviet Union, he knows the difference between socialism and capitalism. Probably many of the USSR do not want to go back.
I think you'd find people on eother side of the spectrum, a lot of former Russian Soviets would say that it was a lot better in the communist era when everything they needed was provided for.
And on the other hand you'd find a lot of people who appreciate the freedom to make as much money as you want for yourself.

OP's claims are a bit strange though, having some protectionist measures to promote the local economy doe not exclude having a capitalistic system.
Sure it may not be the purest form of capitalism = free trade worldwide without restrictions, but it's still capitalism.

Also, most countries cannot produce everything they need themselves, that's why hard-core communism will always fail.
I think that modern people appreciate freedom of choice and movement. Now if somewhere something does not like it, you can go to where your heart desires, but not in the Union. Such opportunities were not there.
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I wanted back in the time to read Karl Marx. But I was told that his teachings or views it is a utopia.
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February 23, 2017, 08:57:35 PM
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Not only that it helps the business where you are buying your products. The advantages are big on both part from being nearer to the source and also having a cheaper alternative. Supporting your local brand will help the economy of the country to go big, look at South Korea know they are home for 2 big companies namely Samsung and Hyundai which continues to dominate the market in their own industries.
I think that it was such an order, which dictates the modern business, the only way there can be a modern world. No other way. Mankind has long been on the side of capitalism.
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Capitalism makes their economic fast to capital and become successful. USA economic is fast in capital because of investors invest capital to their country and successful. Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

You talk without knowing the reality of the country of USA, yes it's true they are having a really good moment but you should also know that their debt is in billion dollars. This just proves that even capitalism is not perfect, since I have a master degree in economic sciences I can say that a system that is based on crediting people and businesses to make the economy grow in the end will be a boomerang which often destroys them. Let's see for how many time USA, EU or any other capitalist country will resist another Lehman Brothers tragedy. Capitalism is far from perfect. The only problem is we still have not a better alternative, I must admit.
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Capitalism makes their economic fast to capital and become successful. USA economic is fast in capital because of investors invest capital to their country and successful. Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

You talk without knowing the reality of the country of USA, yes it's true they are having a really good moment but you should also know that their debt is in billion dollars. This just proves that even capitalism is not perfect, since I have a master degree in economic sciences I can say that a system that is based on crediting people and businesses to make the economy grow in the end will be a boomerang which often destroys them. Let's see for how many time USA, EU or any other capitalist country will resist another Lehman Brothers tragedy. Capitalism is far from perfect. The only problem is we still have not a better alternative, I must admit.
Do you pay attention to what kind of social standards in the country and how the justice and law for one and how act. Then it will be clear what form of government is better. Can capitalism is not so bad.
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Capitalism makes their economic fast to capital and become successful. USA economic is fast in capital because of investors invest capital to their country and successful. Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

You talk without knowing the reality of the country of USA, yes it's true they are having a really good moment but you should also know that their debt is in billion dollars. This just proves that even capitalism is not perfect, since I have a master degree in economic sciences I can say that a system that is based on crediting people and businesses to make the economy grow in the end will be a boomerang which often destroys them. Let's see for how many time USA, EU or any other capitalist country will resist another Lehman Brothers tragedy. Capitalism is far from perfect. The only problem is we still have not a better alternative, I must admit.
Do you pay attention to what kind of social standards in the country and how the justice and law for one and how act. Then it will be clear what form of government is better. Can capitalism is not so bad.

Capitalism is an economic system. Law and justice is another thing. I am talking about economic view and maybe you didn't understand me. I am saying that although capitalism has a lot of flaws and is far from perfect is the best alternative we have until now. I am faithful a new better economic system will replace it in a not so distant future.
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Capitalism makes their economic fast to capital and become successful. USA economic is fast in capital because of investors invest capital to their country and successful. Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

You talk without knowing the reality of the country of USA, yes it's true they are having a really good moment but you should also know that their debt is in billion dollars. This just proves that even capitalism is not perfect, since I have a master degree in economic sciences I can say that a system that is based on crediting people and businesses to make the economy grow in the end will be a boomerang which often destroys them. Let's see for how many time USA, EU or any other capitalist country will resist another Lehman Brothers tragedy. Capitalism is far from perfect. The only problem is we still have not a better alternative, I must admit.
Do you pay attention to what kind of social standards in the country and how the justice and law for one and how act. Then it will be clear what form of government is better. Can capitalism is not so bad.

Capitalism is an economic system. Law and justice is another thing. I am talking about economic view and maybe you didn't understand me. I am saying that although capitalism has a lot of flaws and is far from perfect is the best alternative we have until now. I am faithful a new better economic system will replace it in a not so distant future.
It is hoped that by the new economic system will be some sort of benefit to the people. People like living poorly under current conditions and will be afraid of life and future opportunities. While I understand that there are examples of Western countries and North America, which demonstrate strong social standards in the form of their economy. This is achievable.
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